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What Is A Fundmentalist

I hear the secular world refer to Chrsitians as fundementalists, and here christians here use the same word. What is a Fundmentalist?

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ANYONE HERE SMARTER THAN BRITANNICA? or delusional enough to try to argue with them?

Anyone here dumb enough to use Britannica to set Bible Doctrine for your life?
---Elder on 7/13/08


Many people refer to fundamentalists in the negative, but that is ok. "And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch." They were called Christians by there enemies. Down through the year the believers were called by many names by the enemy. The last one that stuck was Baptist. Baptist are thought as narrow minded, strict, non-compromising. 1Jo 3:13
Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. Look at the people that hate me here.
---Rev_Herb on 3/19/07


.rev herb, the poster is saying the the worldly people call Christians fundamentalist, which offers a derogatory sense of one whom is contrary to higher learning because of religious indoctrination, and now the poster also notices Christians use the same term. So it is not the positive use of the term as you profess it to be.
---Eloy on 2/16/07


That's ok, And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. This to was in the negative at that time.
---Rev_Herb on 3/19/07


Is this still considered a valid blog?

Did Mods cause it to disappear?
---Observer on 3/19/07


Yes Matthew. It is you I wanted to speak up for yourself. That's okey.
---jhonny on 2/18/07




fundamentalism
Noun - a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century in reaction to modernism and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record, holding as essential to Christian faith belief in such doctrines as the creation of the world, the virgin birth, physical resurrection, atonement by the sacrificial death of Christ, and the Second Coming.
---Mia on 2/18/07


Willow, I am with Rev-Herb answer. A true Christian that is a fundamentist is one that follows the fundamentals of the Gospel of Christ. They are called, "the essentials of the Christian faith" and a person that follows them is a fundamentalist. You could be following another religion by their fundamentals. If you are not following the fundaments as Christian, then you are a liberalist. Speaking on behalf of men more then God and your starting point in your idea's is men not Christ.
---Lisas on 2/18/07


Jhonny I'd rather not. i was hoping the scriptures would speak for themself.
---Matthew on 2/17/07


Matthew, good scriptures. Not sure of the relevance. Can you expound.
---jhonny on 2/17/07


Dictionary defenation of Fundamentalism-a movement in American Protestantism that arose in the early part of the 20th century and that stresses the infallibility of the Bible in all matters of faith and doctrine, accepting it as a literal historical record
---Rev_Herb on 2/17/07




Eloy, again you say "you have a heart for the lost" but your answers to others that you believe are lost on line, you condemn! Whats up with that Eloy? Who are you really? No one in the whole website, not Mormons, Jehovah Witnessess, Muslims, Catholics, SDA's, and many others have you treated with love. You again lie, which again makes you sin, over and over with every answer you give, and yet you will not acknowledge you are wrong.
---Lisas on 2/17/07


2. You tell us how great you are and how much you do for others yet the only persons you show and kindness are the one's that agree with you. Even Morgan you went against and she tried to bring some kind of sense to you. You are not born again three times are you? If so, how in the world did you crucify Christ three times? Is it possible that you were completely saved at 12 and don't even realize it?
---Lisas on 2/17/07


3. Your theology is very corrupt and very much wrong. Somehow you have gone astray and have not found your way back. But I believe God can help you, if you only humble to the Truth. It is not impossible for you to come back to reality. God can and does chasten His Children who wonder away. He always brings them back. You should check your heart and ask God to forgive you for believing you are perfect and admit you are a sinner in need of Christ.
---Lisas on 2/17/07


back up in them thar hills we call them fondlementalists.
---jack on 2/16/07


.rev herb, the poster is saying the the worldly people call Christians fundamentalist, which offers a derogatory sense of one whom is contrary to higher learning because of religious indoctrination, and now the poster also notices Christians use the same term. So it is not the positive use of the term as you profess it to be. And there are nonfundamentalists that are also nonliberals as well. Jesus was not an "elementary" fundamentalist nor was he a "anything goes" preacher.
---Eloy on 2/16/07


.rev herb, the poster is saying that the worldly people call Christians fundamentalist, which offers a derogatory sense of one whom is contrary to higher learning because of religious indoctrination, and now the poster also notices Christians use the same term. So it is not the positive use of the term as you profess it to be. And there are nonfundamentalists that are also nonliberals as well. Jesus was not an "elementary" fundamentalist nor was he a "anything goes" preacher.
---Eloy on 2/16/07


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A fundementalist is someone who believes in the fundementals of the bible. You know, the virgin birth of Christ, His death burral and resuraction. We believe what the bible says is true, not in the way liberals interpet it. So if you are not a fundementalists, then you are a liberal.
---Rev_Herb on 2/16/07


.lisa, I am not any catholic pope, instead I belong solely to the Lord; I do the works of Christ, I have a heart for the lost and pray for them, I give to the needy, I prophesy, preach, teach, heal, visit the sick and imprisoned. I am the 100% genuine bona fide born-again Christian, sanctified and consecrated to the Lord God, made into the very righteousness of Christ, covered with his blood, and filled with his most Holy Ghost with real signs following me which bear witness to the truth.
---Eloy on 2/15/07


Proverbs 11:13
A talebearer revealeth secrets: but he that is of a faithful spirit concealeth the matter.

Proverbs 18:8
The words of a talebearer are as wounds, and they go down into the innermost parts of the belly.
---Matthew on 2/15/07


Lisas thank you for clarifying that position. Augusta used it as a spring board for something unsavory and unneccesary. What a waste.
---jhonny on 2/15/07


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Jhonny, I don't oppose Eloy speaking against the popes at all. He is right in what he says that they think they are infallible. But the same holds true for Eloy, he that questions the popes does the same as they do. He is infallible and he speaks against the infallable popes. When I read what he writes against what he is, is contray to his teachings. He cannot judge some else when he himself is one.
---Lisas on 2/15/07


Augusta can you provide me with the correct interpretation. "2. As he speaks against the teachings of the popes, we stand speaking against his teachings as well." It seemed to me Lisas position would be contrary to Eloy's postion of speaking against the popes. Therefore the opposite of speaking against.
---jhonny on 2/14/07


JohnT
no neverthe wouldn't take me but fopr Christ Im a warrior.
---willow on 2/14/07


Ya nevva know.
---Observer on 2/13/07


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Elder You recognize and say you have been insulted. You fail to see the treatment Eloy hands out. How come you can't see that?

Perhaps Jhonny is another name for one of Eloy's multiple online personalities?

Willow were you deployed in the armed services?
---John_T on 2/13/07


Jhonny, people get the answer they seek. What puzzles me and others is why you even have to ask? Can you not understand and see for yourself what has been written and said? Do you not comprehend the manner in which things have and will continue to be said?
You recognize and say you have been insulted. You fail to see the treatment Eloy hands out. How come you can't see that?
We are not against Eloy, just tired of his foolish attidue.
---Elder on 2/12/07


actually Johny I just came backto CN my silence is do to the fact that I haven't been online and you are right I attacked eloy and I have my opinion about what he has become and he knows it. he also knows that when you eternally condemn others (Eloy is not GOD). I won't stay silent. I
---willow on 2/12/07


Elder. It is you projecting fault, not I at this point. I ask for specifics, I get credentials, passed off, double talk and the run around, and now misrepresented and insulted. I suppose I have my answer, which includes the silence of the others.
---jhonny on 2/12/07


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Jhonny, my feelings aren't hurt at all. I know who I am in Christ. Not even doubt my salvation. His words are clearly not fruits of the Spirit, but of self righteous. I feel a pain for him, and what he say's to others. I have never in my life seen or heard anyone that is suppose to be a Christian conduct himself as he does. I didn't even know there was true Christians around that called others things like that. But since I have joined CN I have found out there are a few.
---Lisas on 2/12/07


#2. Jhonny, Paul through the Holy Spirit speaks to us of the conduct of a true believer in Ephesians 4:29:"Let no corrup communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers." chapter 5:6 "Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience' The Holy Spirit warns us of the conduct we should show others.
---Lisas on 2/12/07


#3. The Holy Spirit is speaking here to true Christians for a none believer doesn't understands these things. He, (the Holy Spirit) through Paul, says, 12,13 "For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light." verse 14 goes on to say, "Therefore He says: Awake you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light"
---Lisas on 2/12/07


#4. It is light that makes everything visible. Reproving God's word is our job as Christians and we do have a right to question what is taught no matter who is speaking. Speaking condemnation to others is not of the Spirit. It only exposes darkness in a person. Am I bothered by this? Yes I am because he supposely is a brother in Christ, and we have a right to correct him. If he is not saved, then He needs to follow the instructions of Paul as he was using the quotation of Isa. 60:1,
---Lisas on 2/12/07


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Jhonny I answered from my perspective not from Willow's. I answered with my thoughts not with condemnation of Willow's.
What is strange to me is that you can see the "fault" of Willow, John T, Lisa and others but you can't see the attitude of Eloy.
Are you, in all reality, just an alter-ego of Eloy?
How many people can we call swine and not be rebuked. If you feel that you are a swine as Eloy calls so many or you agree with him let us know. It is God's people he is calling these things.
---Elder on 2/12/07


Eloy has been posting in the manner of old Steve/Curt and as if he is impaired from time to time.
His condemnation and name calling has gone unchecked long enough.
His misapplication of Scripture comes from his lack of knowledge of clear teaching. His name calling is vicious and uncalled for.
Moderator it is time that you caused these type of post to cease. No one does this name calling but him. He needs to learn manners. Please, for the sake of CN and all of us, help him to understand.
---Elder on 2/12/07


*I'm sorry your feelings are hurt Lisas. Trying to defend the popes can be a painful excercise. "..he speaks against the teachings of the popes,..".
---jhonny on 2/11/07*


That is not what she said, jhonny. You blatantly took her words completely out of context.

---augusta on 2/12/07


I'm sorry your feelings are hurt Lisas. Trying to defend the popes can be a painful excercise. "..he speaks against the teachings of the popes,..".
---jhonny on 2/11/07


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Self condemned swine, is the words that Eloy uses to anyone that does not agree with him. Not answering questions put to him only shows that he wants everyone, no matter the person, to totally agree with him or else face his wrath. True Christians are asked by the Holy Spirit to "prove all things" and to "hold fast that which is good" we as a church have to question many of his answers. If his words don't align with God's Word, Scripture, we are to make sure we expose those words.
---Lisas on 2/11/07


2. As he speaks against the teachings of the popes, we stand speaking against his teachings as well. He makes himself infallible just as they did. Everything he says has to be true. No one is without sin, and when he speaks we are commanded to check everything with God's word and correct him. We all differ in many area's of Scripture, but the essentials of the Christian faith have to agree. People were blind to the truth before because they didn't have Scripture available to them in the past,
---Lisas on 2/11/07


3. God has now made it possible, through His Word and the power of the Holy Spirit for all to "prove all things" Same in my comments on passages, I am to be corrected when I do not have something correct, yet I don't have to be called a condemned swine to be corrected. He does not know me, and neither does Morgan. They both support their own believes no matter the cost.
---Lisas on 2/11/07


Wiloow you say I got my answer. "..his judgmental spirit as well as a stone cold heart.." So Elder responds.
"We don't know if Eloy is stone cold and judgmental or not."
So now I am directed to John T. for the specific answer. The only thing specific from John T. is "..absurd claims, he asserts that he and Jesus talked about it face-to-face."
Is this the problem.
Willow, missed your point on the scrptures. A few could be made.
---jhonny on 2/10/07


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Mrs. Morgan, I choose not to repond to many lost gainsayers who bear false witness, and may I suggest that you pay them no ear also. There are others whom really need to hear the gospel message, and are searching for salvation, and we should redeem the time and minister to these rather than putting our pearls before self-condemned swine.
---Eloy on 2/10/07


Jhonny,
JohnT really summed it up well.
---Bruce5656 on 2/10/07


1)
Matthew 18:15-17

Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
---willow on 2/9/07


Johnny have you taken the time to read this entire blog? Forget the rest. Search the attitude displayed by Eloy here that warranted my replies.
He bases peoples Salvation on whether they agree with him or not. He says those who are called "Fundamentalist" do not have the Holy Spirit, thus unsaved.
Do you think his judgement is correct and should not be corrected?
When exposed to the truth he goes on his tantrums.
Would you rather we allow him and others post blatant falsehoods?
---Elder on 2/10/07


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Johnny you said, "Judgmental and stone cold. Is the answer I will be satisfied with."
jhonny on 2/9/07
We don't know if Eloy is stone cold and judgmental or not. To know that we would have to sit ourselves up as he does as knowing all things without support of facts or ability.
We do know two things; Eloy displays a lot of passion and most of it is in error to Scripture.
If you disagree with me should I say your loved one died because you are not Saved.
Eloy has done that.
---Elder on 2/10/07


It seems my status as "newcomer" is not adequate as a credential to warrant a specific answer.
---jhonny on 2/9/07


Willow, you indicated I got my answer. These were the only words in your post I could construe as an answer. "..his judgmental spirit as well as a stone cold heart.."
I asked this: "What is everyone specifically up in arms about with Eloy's response." Judgmental and stone cold. Is the the answer I will be satisfied with.
---jhonny on 2/9/07


This blog is exactly what the Lord doesn't want... in fighting amongst christians. It is one thing to lovingly point out what we see as error, but is entirely a different matter when we start accusing one another. If your words, even if corrective, are not encouraging and/or kind - they are not from God. Even when dealing with corrupt religeous leaders Jesus more often appealed than attacked. This is not important enough a forum to stoop to mean spiritedness.
---daphn8897 on 2/9/07


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"That Morgan, is the person you support with in all his believes. You side on his side even when he is speaking against the very Word of God." --No, I don't support ALL of his beliefs, just like many of my brothers and sisters, but we DO agree about MANY of the BASIC [saving] fundamentals of the gospel of Christ. End of story.
---Mrs._Morgan on 2/9/07


jhonny, Eloy's rudeness to Elder was the straw that broke the camel's back. The longer time members here responded appropriately

In the past, he said things that were preposterous, if not outright delusional. When faced with facts contradicting his absurd claims, he asserts that he and Jesus talked about it face-to-face.

Recitations of them are unimportant, and many of us have been tolerant but his vicious attack against Elder was unwarranted. Hope you see that.
---John_T on 2/9/07


That Morgan, is the person you support with in all his believes. You side on his side even when he is speaking against the very Word of God. Eloy has been condemning anyone that doesn't agree with him in every subject. When someone questions him he immediately doesn't answer the question as you have been doing along side of him. You tend to forget this is for the glory of God not for his or your glory. That is why I have spoken against your salvation of works. His and your rise to power are your sins.
---Lisas on 2/9/07


2. We have seen this view of his as deity from the beginning. He been the light Jesus saw on the Cross. His word never been wrong. Him and you never sinning. Perfectionist is yours and his mistake. His condemnation of Christ not able to clean a toilet as he had. His suffering more the Christ and Job put together. His rise to power comes from himself only, and not from God. Sure many times he is right on some answers, but he is not deity or sinless, and neither are you. No one is, but Christ.
---Lisas on 2/9/07


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...Could this be a blog that I once knew, Shining Through? ...DEJA VU.... --song fades out--
---Mrs._Morgan on 2/8/07


Johny
click on eloys blogs you will see a pattern. besides you asked why,and you got your answer lol
---willow on 2/8/07


**deja vu**
---Mrs._Morgan on 2/8/07


Appreciate your response Willow, but to pull out credentials instead of providing specifics, is shallow and lacks responsibility.
---jhonny on 2/8/07


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jhonny
This is not an isolated incident. It is because of Eloy's long history here. You are a relative newcomer and have not seen some of the very extreme/wrong/heretical things he comes up with. Yes he says some truth but there is much on the other side as well.
---Bruce5656 on 2/8/07


johnny
eloy is suppose to know better and is in ministry all who have held him accountable for his actions are in ministry, and we are hoping and praying he will repent of his judgmental spirit as well as a stone cold heart and learn to love the brethern again.

Eloy you know in your spirit the other and I are speaking the truth. let this go my friend,let it go!
---willow on 2/8/07


It really does not matter what the secular world calls Christians, because their minds abide in wrong and not in righteousness.
---Eloy on 2/8/07


.observer, NOPE.
---Eloy on 2/7/07


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Fundamentalists are stuck on the fundamentals of Christianity and they do not grow up into the advanced stages of the faith. Please Hebrews 5:12-14; 6:1,2,9-12.
---Eloy on 2/7/07


Why hold Eloy to a higher standard. He was called a willful propagator of falsehood, as the same lies satan gave Eve. Is this not a correct reponse for Eloy to say this is accusation, a series of accusation acutually. Being told he has a judgmental superiority accompanied by confusion and distorted views. Am I missing something. I think Eloys response is within one's right to take exclusion of others. What is everyone specifically up in arms about with Eloy's response.
---jhonny on 2/7/07


Bruce you are so right as others are also. I hope that Eloy will spend the time that he is not reading my post to read the Bible and learn from it.
My past was judged on Calvary. Now I have only a future.
Eloy has set himself up above others. Ah...but pride goeth before destruction.
Turn around Eloy... your bridge over troubled waters is out.
---Elder on 2/7/07


READ THIS, ELOY!

Why do you viciously attack people, over the most trite things, as you have in the past, and today? You manifest a spirit not in keeping with Christ.

You should do restrain yourself.
---Observer on 2/7/07


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Eloy I will only say this once. you use to be above this. you have eternally Judged and condemened,may GOD not lay this charge against you. repent from this eloy..repent before you become what you think others are.
---willow on 2/7/07


.elder, you are presently unsaved and the accuser of the brothers, and I am not reading any further false witnessing and reproaches that you post.
---Eloy on 2/7/07


Willow, "fundamentalism" is a modern term. It contrasts with more loose interpretation (more figurative thinking) of liberalism. Depending on context, both can be good or bad. I see three major problems: 1-taking fundamentals to the extreme with imbalanced rigidity, 2-enforcing personal dogma & convictions on others in violation of universal principles, and 3-using terms to label and prejudice and discriminate. While it's important to be knowledgeable, I prefer to avoid stereotypes. Heb 5:12
---Geoff on 2/7/07


Eloy, One statement you made is true, I am not of your family. You are in a family of confusion, distrust, self righteousness and misunderstanding of Scripture. You indicate that only you have the Truth. That is the same lie that was told to Eve many years ago.
Your Judgements do not fall in line with Scripture yet you claim superiority to all others here.
You fail in your own distorted views and willfully accept and propagate falsehoods.
And, all of this is the better part of you.
---Elder on 2/7/07


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Elder,
eloy tells you "for you are not of my family"

That must be comforting. Thank God the family of God is not limited to/compromised of those who have such zeal with such little substance. I am reminded of the fanatical judaizers Paul spoke against.
---BRUCE5656 on 2/6/07


.elder, I judge perfectly all whom I am commanded to rightly judge, and I honor perfectly all those deserving of honor. And you must give an account for your false witness and your maligning of whom God has sancitified, even as you have been judged by the Maker of hearts in the past.
---Eloy on 2/6/07


.elder, I know that you are not saved, for you are not of my family. I speak God's words, and you dis God's words and also those of us whom speak his words you dis. There is a time, and I pray that you do get saved.
---Eloy on 2/6/07


I do not like labels.Fundamentalists don't fit into my vocabulary. I am a born again christian who is trusting Christ to take me to heaven when I die. That's it. I want to love Christ above all and love others as myself. If I can do that. My journey will not have been in vain. Much love to all.
---robyn on 2/6/07


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Eloy what ever a Fundamentalist is, a Spirit Filled Christian is not one who condemns, belittles and sits themselves up like you do.
You speak as if Salvation is based upon someone agreeing with you and not using the word ain't.
You speak as if you know all things and people.
Your bringing attention to your own "brilliance" shows how dim you have became. Of course you claim you do not sin either but your condemnation of others is sin.
---Elder on 2/6/07


.herb, "aint"?
---Eloy on 2/5/07


tofurabby, Growing in the Spirit is not forever remaining inside the closet in confession of sin, but the stepping out of the boat in order to walk on the water. Fundalmentalists do not bear the fruit of the Spirit, instead they lack the meat of the Word, and lack the Holy Ghost. For those who truly have the Spirit also do the works of the Spirit, rather than only paying lip-service and dissing the true saints of God whom are actually doing the works of Christ.
---Eloy on 2/5/07


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