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Is Union Membership Good

How do you feel about union membership for American workers? Is union membership good for American workers or a hindrance to American workers? Does the right to work law, mean right to work or right to work for less?

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Economist Dr Thomas Sowell points out several fallacies with the minimum wage:

The real minumum wage is ZERO, i.e. unemployment. You can legislate that someone can't be employed below an arbitrary wage, but you can't legislate that an employer must hire someone whose productivity is lower than that.

Most people on the lowest 20% of income rise to the highest 20% at some point in their lives. So different income classes are really the SAME people at different stages of their lives.
---Ktisophilos on 1/7/08


Those on low-paying jobs learn work habits like punctuality, following instructions, personal responsibility, enabling them to move on to higher paying jobs. But minimum wage laws prevent this.

Most minimum wage earners are young people on their first jobs, NOT those trying to support a family of 4.
---Ktisophilos on 1/7/08


Mima: I do not understand why you are asking this question, except to stir up dissension.
---Madison1101 on 12/24/07


Union membership has been wonderful to our family providing a good life and retirement with health insurance. Union membership is good for workers as it enables a fair wage and benefits. Right to work means that a person can work without joining a union, but still gets the wage that the union members get. Many right to work states are notorious for low wages. If more people stood behind unions there would be no need to raise the minimum wage. Even the new minimum wage increases are not livable wages.
---Susie on 6/1/07


I'm originally from the north where union's are prevelant, and I can tell you that they can be a blessing and a curse. Back before the AFL and CIO, unions were necessary because workers including children were being exploited. It seems as though they went from one extreme to another. Now some of these unions, exploit workers. If your on the beneficial side of the unions than your ok, but I have a lot of friends in the IBEW who are out of work alot because of union politics. Almost a necessary evil.
---John on 1/28/07




Madison...I understand what you're saying. We lived in Vegas for many years, so I am familiar with bad management. But, my husband wasn't in a union that would allow that kind of thing to happen.
---Susie on 1/27/07


Susie: There are often times when the management does not put anything on the table for the union to accept. One year, the mayor of our town forced a strike, after we went back to work for two months without a contract. He would not put anything on the table. We walked out and the next day we had a contract.
---Madison1101 on 1/26/07


A good union will negotiate a good contract for the workers without the need of a strike.
---Susie on 1/26/07


Pauly, I know exactly what your saying. I am from N Y originally and that's how it used to work when I lived there. Been out of NY for 11 years now, though.
---John on 1/26/07


John: You are wrong about the reasons for a strike. A strike is because of NO CONTRACT. A union negotiates a contract for a set amount of time. During that time period, there is an agreed upon wage and benefits package. When the contract is up, they have to negotiate a new contract. The strike is always because there is no contract agreement. It is to force the management of to negotiate fairly.

Try studying the history of unions before you spout off about them.
---Madison1101 on 1/26/07




The Bible is clear that if you agree to work for a certain amount that you have no right to claim for more wages or benefits outside of mutual agreement with your employer. Striking is your refusal to work for what you have agreed upon and thus is wrong.
Unions do some good things but use unscriptural means to gain what they want.
---john on 1/26/07


In the 40 years my husband has been in a union, he has never had to strike. A guy named "Vinnie" has never come around his jobsite. The reason unions are not strong in the south is because of the intimidation of the businesses that they will close and go somewhere else if they are unionized. That's why many have ended up in Mexico where they will work for dollars per "week" instead of dollars per hour.
---Susie on 1/26/07


Where unions are strong, the wages for non-union jobs are higher also.
---Susie on 1/26/07


That depends. In some places that I might just know about, if you refuse to strike, a guy name Vinnie is very persuasive to make you realize not to ever miss another picket line. By the time the cast comes off, you have a whole new outlook! Unions, maybe that's why there is a shortage of them in the south.
---Pauly on 1/25/07


the same way god set up a government to govern the world and to keep things in order, its the same with a union.
its placed to protect the rights, employment and health of an employee and even there family.
god bless you...
thats another way god protects those he blesses here on earth.
---ralph on 1/25/07


You might as well ask if patriotism or clubs or governments are good.

Most things are seldom good or bad in themselves. The end to which they are used is either good or bad.
---Jack on 1/25/07


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