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Christians Without Bibles

Would Christian churches survive if all the Bibles were taken away? Would Christianity be able to remain intact without the Bible?

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#5. The Holy Ghost, by the mouth of Paul, says to us, "Prove all things. Hold fast that which is good." In these words you have two great truths. The right and duty and necessity of private judgment. "Prove all things." The duty and necessity of keeping firm hold upon the Truth, "Hold fast to which is good" The Christian has the right to compare man words and man's writings with God's revelation, and to make sure that he is not deluded and speaking false.
---Lisas on 10/17/07


Becky, check this blog out.
---Cindy on 2/25/07


Amen to Robyn
---Duane on 2/22/07


I think so. If we would live by I Corinthians chapter 13, alone, that would take a lifetime to be able to do this. This chapter actually sums up the whole Christian experience. Love, love, love . If we cannot and will not try to perfect this fruit of the spirit.We can forget the rest. Love God with all of our heart, soul and mind, first of all. Love our neighbors(others) as ourselves.People want to do more but that's it! In a nutshell.
Blessings.
---robyn on 2/22/07


Tom2 You hit it on the head...We must read OR hear the gospel. The holy spirit will bring back to rememberance all things, HE will also be our teacher so we can teach. We all have read the bible but its not the only means to reach and teach the word....
One more time, The church(believers) would still be strong if all bibles were distroyed.
Thats all I have to say.........
---Duane on 2/22/07




scripture tells us that while we live on earth we know in part as through a vail.but when we die we will know jesus as he is fully.we have scripture so we can be reminded while we live in the body.the holy spirit brings to remembrance but first we have to have read it,or heard it,other wise jesus would have just died on the cross and never spoken to anyone,or taught anyone. after his resurrection the bible tells us
---tom2 on 2/22/07


part2 that jesus opened the apostles minds to understand the prophecies and writings of him and the other scriptures, so eveidently jesus thought the written word was important, or he would have never made an issue of it.jesus taught from scripture and prophecy,and created scripture and prohecy from his teachings.we must read them to know them,so we can grow through them.
---tom2 on 2/22/07


Duane, Yes, first mark of a rebellous and a prideful christian. Your right and everybody else is wrong. I really think you believe this. This is not about winning an argument. You seem not to get this, so good bye.
---Dennis on 2/21/07


That was a prideful thing you said Duane. I'm not worried though. If your His, He will humble you, you can believe that. this is not a debate, it's an opportunity to learn something, but perhaps you haven't learned anything here. One quality of any Christian is, we must be teachable. I'm backing off now.
---Gail on 2/21/07


All I can say is, (You of so little faith) I think most here need the real power of God in there lives. I need NOTHING BUT CHRIST, how about you. The Bible helps us Know more about God but it cant save us.
---Duane on 2/21/07




Why dont some christians understand, we are born again of the spirit, Christ is in us, we need NOTHING but Him....believe it.
---Duane on 2/21/07


when we are in heaven with jesus we won,t need the bible . we will be with the word and will know the word.but while here in the flesh we need reminded.thats why God has given us the bible.because we are forgetful, faliable,sinful,creatures.
---tom2 on 2/21/07


Duane, I know what 1 John 2:27 says, but your taking it way out of context here. If anything, the Bible is not of this world. I still say you must be either young or not saved. I have to agree, that you really don't get it. I hope you get a chance to find the truth.
---Gail on 2/21/07


Duane, I can see what's happening here. If you think that 1 john 2:27 has anything to do with not needing Bibles, then you don't know sripture like you think you do. This is a great example of how much we need the Bible. Go and study your Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth.
---Maggie on 2/21/07


1 John 2:27 has nothing to do with not needing Bibles. I can't help you.
---Malcolm on 2/21/07


Mr. Duane or whoever you really are. I have been reading your responses here. Are you Catholic?
---Phil_W on 2/21/07


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I never said I dont read the bible, I love the bible and read it constantly. Im just answering the question in this blog...Would the church survive if we didnt have the bible anymore...I say yes the church would be fine without the bible. The lord will overcome.
---Duane on 2/20/07


I think most here should read 1 john 2:27
this verse will help all to understand my position. Let the spirit guide you.
---Duane on 2/20/07


Strange that you said that Duane, because did you know that Jesus is the Word, and Jesus and God are one? Go to the Gospel of John (Yes, in the Bible again) The very first verse John1:1 "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God."
Also, John 1:14 " And the word became flesh, and dwelt among us,..." The book isn't God but what's in it is. God magnified His word above His name? Read Psalm 138:2. If you don't get this now, then we cannot help you.
---observer on 2/20/07


Duane, I think that your playing with these good people of God. First off, you can't be saved. You may think that you are, but your not. No Christian says we don't need Bibles. You talk about the spirit a lot, but I see no evidence of the Holy Spirit in your responses. For all we know you could be a Satanist, just playing with these people. Either your very dumb or your trying to act schrewd, which your not. You have no fruit of a saved person. I have another idea who you could be.
---watching on 2/20/07


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Duane, you sound like your very young. You know you don't mean what you wrote last, and so do we. The only reason that I suspect that your very young is, because you don't understand this simple, but necessary command to study scripture. If you don't know what the Bible says to do, it only means you haven't read it much. Christianity is based on what is in the Bible, so it makes sense to study it. Nobody is saying that your not saved if you don't read it, but you will never grow in Christ, if you don't.
---Gail on 2/20/07


Duane, People here went through the time and effort to reach out to you with Godly wisdom. Every real Christian here told you the truth, just to help you. You can't just get frustrated and stamp your feet. That will bring you further back. You cannot lean on your own understanding or feeling. The Bible warns about that. If we went on feelings we all would be doomed because man is falable, yes even saved people. Either you hear what God is saying to you in His Word, or you don't. It's your choice.
---Bob on 2/20/07


Being led by the spirit is not vital, its everything. Salvation is Christ in you...
Dont let the bible be your god, its one way to know more about your God.
---Duane on 2/20/07


If Duane does not see this basic truth, then he probably is not saved. I have been saved more than most people here, I'm almost 62 years old. I can tell you this, one of the very first things a new Christian learns is, that we must be in the Bible on a regular basis. They NEVER say we don't need Bibles. The Holy Spirit would not say that. You believe God or you think Him a liar. God's word promises that His Word will endure forever. It's your choice Duane, God will not force you.
---Dennis on 2/20/07


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Like I said before, in all the years that I have been a Child of God through Jesus Christ, I have never heard a genuine Christian say that we don't need Bibles. If you don't read the Bible regularly, you don't grow spiritually and you become stagnent and slip back. I have seen it many times. We must do things God's way, not our way. That's why He's called God.
---GeorgeMcCabe on 2/20/07


Yes, evilness is on the increase and that's why as of tomorrow, Wednesday, the Catholic Church starts the Season of Lent and invites us to sacrifice ourselves and to remember what Christ has done for us.

Lent is a holy period in the RCC - a period of prayers and sacrifice.
---Caring on 2/20/07


We need the Bible. Time is getting short now. The world is gettig more and more evil, just look around us. You might say, "The world was always evil after, Adam." True, but look how technology has accellerated in the last 100 years compared to the rest of history. Think about it. Same with evilness. The devil knows his time is short. More souls need to come into the Kingdom of God and perhaps quickly now. The line has been drawn in the sand. Which side are you on? Let's get the Bibles out there.
---John on 2/20/07


(I give up)...I guess all christians will lose there salvation, deny Christ, and no one will be saved if christianity lost all there bibles.
UNBELIEVEABLE..........
---Duane on 2/20/07


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Please forgive me. I meant to say [since], Adam. God bless.
---John on 2/20/07


Duane, The Bible tells us to study the scriptures, I hope you know that, by now, John showed you that out of 2 Timothy 2:15. And if scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit,(2 Timothy 3:16), and you claim the Spirit will guide us, THEN WHY ARE YOU NOT HEARING WHAT GOD'S SPIRIT IS SAYING TO YOU? We need the Bible with us to read, and study it. There are Christians in China that risk their lives and would give up food, for a page out of God's word. It' true. Also, Remember those Hotel Bibles?
---Peter on 2/19/07


Yes, most definately, we need the bible with us. Faith comes by hearing, and when I read the bible, I hear what the spirit of God is saying to me. This is how it works. The reading of the word must be mixed with faith. Hebrews 4:7 says- "...Today if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts."
---Malcolm on 2/19/07


Duane, go back and see what you wrote. You wrote. "I would hope that Christians have enough God and faith in them to survive the lose of bibles. The holy Spirit is our comforter." What about the insaved? They don't have that yet. They must be taught, by reading God's word out of the bible. We are also instructed as Christians to study the scriptures(bible). I believe that most of the people on this blog are trying to help you, like I am trying to help you. Are you getting this yet?
---GeorgeMcCabe on 2/19/07


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Duane, you still don't get it.
---observer on 2/19/07


The question was.. .Would Christianity remain intact if we didnt have any bibles.
I would hope that Christians have enough of God and faith in them to survive the lose of bibles. The Holy Spirit is our comforter.
---Duane on 2/19/07


Without the word, there would be no salvation...agreed...but there were no gospels written of Christ in the early days of christianty...it must have been from hearing of the word and the Holy Spirt that saved so many....NOT the bible. God will provide all things to his children
---Duane on 2/19/07


The Bible is God's word and is for teaching and correction of all born again believers. It is the word of God that convicts the lost when the gospel of Christ is presented to him. We are talk to by God each day through His word. No one has all of God's word correct and that is why each one of us is in a different level then the other. Without God's word, there is no salvation for those that are lost.
---Lisas on 2/19/07


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You had better get saved and study the word of God, because if you think for one moment that the Bibles could never be taken from you, then you, my friend, are living in a different world than I am. I say again== WAKE UP AMERICA. stop sleeping!
---catherine on 2/18/07


Yes Duane, we NEED the bible. You are leaning on your own understanding by making comparisons, YES, the Holy Spirit will bring scriptures to our rememberance but ONLY after we are born again, and after we are rooted and grounded in the Word of God. WE ARE COMMANDED TO STUDY SCRIPTURE. How can we study if we have no Bible? The Bible is our guide and our record of Biblical events. Countless souls have accepted Jesus in a lonley Hotel room, while reading a hotel Bible for the first time.
---John on 2/18/07


Duane, you said: " If all bibles were gone now, we still have the word in our hearts and the spirit will lead us just as the Lord led early christians who never saw a bible, they just heard the word. Faith comes by hearing..."
Most people on earth do not have the Word of God in their hearts. We don't have Jesus with us in the flesh but the Holy spirit was sent after and inspired the writtings of the Word. Faith comes by hearing the Word, when it's read to us and when we read it and study it.
---Peter on 2/18/07


Duane, you said: " If all bibles were gone now, we still have the word in our hearts and the spirit will lead us just as the Lord led early christians who never saw a bible, they just heard the word. Faith comes by hearing..."
Most people on earth do not have the Word of God in their hearts. We don't have Jesus with us in the flesh but the Holy spirit was sent after and inspired the writtings of the Word. Faith comes by hearing the Word, when it's read to us and when we read it and study it.
---Peter on 2/18/07


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I cannot lie, especially about Jesus and Christianity.
In all my almost 25 years as a follower of Christ, I have never heard a genuine Christian say, we don't need Bibles.
We are told to study the Word. I found that in the Bible.
---GeorgeMcCabe on 2/18/07


The Holy Spirit will bring things to our rememberance after we are in the Word. I was in a huge denominational church, which I will not mention here. We were never encouraged to read the Bible or bring them to church with us. There wasn't even a Bible available at church for us to read.
Now I'm born again in a great church where there are plenty of Bibles there for everyone to read. They don't try to and hide the Word of God. I love having my Bible always with me. Glory to God, in Jesus name!
---Jennifer on 2/18/07


Duane: yes the bible speaks of a time where the law will be written in the hearts and that noone will teach his brother, saying:"know God" because everyone would know God. Yeah, technically speaking, the Holy Spirit should be more than enough. The only Bible first christians had was the old testament and they did read it. And they wrote letters to eachother, and paul was "teaching" people who supposedly had the holy spirit. I don't know the answer. I love the Bible. God Bless.
---george on 2/18/07


I was trying to make a point here...Do we NEED the bible?....Gods words were written long ago. We know them and we can preach them. If all bibles were now gone, we still have the word in our hearts and the spirit will lead us just as the lord led early christians who never saw a bible, they just heard the word. Faith comes by hearing...
---Duane on 2/18/07


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One more post...The early Christians gave there lives for the faith, they NEVER had or seen a bible(all word of mouth through spirit filled believers) I would hope that we Christians in this day would do the same.
---Duane on 2/18/07


I'm not takin sides, but please tell me how some people in other countries go about living a christian life w/ just a few pages of the bible, that doesnt have all the laws/ rules in it...
---mark on 2/18/07


catherine, It is written: "All scripture is given by inspiration from God, and is profitible for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." 2 timothy 3:16
Now, how can this all be done without our guide, the Bible? Do you remember every word of the Bible? When I got born again, the person that help lead me to Jesus, instructed me out of the Bible for over a year. Without that, I would have been just making up the rules, leaving a lot of room for error.
---Peter on 2/18/07


4. I will do my best not to transgress against God. We say, God help us when we sin so that we don't do that anymore. No one that loves the Lord with all their hearts thinks as you and others that speak against it say. Those words that you might hear someone say, only proves they are not saved at all or they would not say them.
---Lisas on 2/18/07


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5. Let get something streight. All true believers are regenerated. They are given the Holy Spirit to help them through their lives. If you are saying we are to doubt our salvation because somehow we might fail and go so far that Christ is unable to sustain us to Himself, then you are completely wrong. We believe in His promises and we believe in what He can do through us. You are saying to doubt what He said and what He promised us, it is not true at all.
---Lisas on 2/18/07


6. "exceedly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature. This expression is not different from the concepts of being born again, born from above.(Romans 8:1. The precious promises of salvation result in becoming God's children in this age, and therefore by sharing in God's nature by the possession of His eternal life. We have the Holy Spirit living in us, and one day we will partake of the divine nature in a greater way.
---Lisas on 2/18/07


7. What you are saying is that all that stuff is false because it's all by my works. That all those things are not really true and that we should not take them a really happening to us. That somehow on my own free will I will commit a sin that will not guarantee me my Salvation. If that is the case, which sin will it be? No Bruce, you have us all wrong. I tried to debate this with you and you refused, yet you speak against it over and over.
---Lisas on 2/18/07


Remember that there are witches and pagans in-waiting that need to answer blog questions so they can achieve their badges.
They have many works and hoops they need to jump through to reach a level of greatness.
It's important to them to mess with a few heads.
---anonymous on 2/18/07


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God works through us, because it is in our best interest. God inspired the scriptures, but Jesus founded a Church to teach us. Matthew 16:18-19. The Church puts its faith in God because - Matthew 19:26.
---lorra8574 on 2/18/07


Do you have a photographic memory, Duane?
---Bob on 2/17/07


There may come a day when the Holy Bible will be taken from us. Do not think for one moment, That could not happen. As long as Wicked People are in control. Wake Up.
---catherine on 2/17/07


duane I too believe that letting the spirit lead is vital ,but I also believe we need the word,no one has of yet posted that in the written word.many many books in the bible are wriiten with this preceding them and God said, or the angel said write this down. revelation,daniel,a number of books of the prophets. if God didn,t want it written down why did he tell them to write?
---tom2 on 2/17/07


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part 2 duane, the 10 commandments were WRITTEN IN STONE.when God wrote them they were so men could see them,when God gave the law to moses and the dimensions of the ark,don,t you suppose moses wrote them down,when God spoke about building the temple with all its dimensions do you suppose they were written down. why? so men would not forget thats why.
---tom2 on 2/17/07


Duane, you don't know what you are talking about. Go study scripture. After Jesus went to heaven to be with His Father, the Holy Spirit Came down and inspired the writtings of the Bible. This was all part of God's plan so we would have the truth of His word with us. We need Bibles, and no one can take it away. Read 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
---John on 2/17/07


You dont understand...The early christians never had a bible...the spirit led them as we should be led. We would do fine without the bible, the spirit will lead us in his word
---Duane on 2/17/07


His word should be written in our hearts..
---Duane on 2/17/07


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Duane, we need the Bible, and it will always be with us. You couldn't take it away if thousands of you tried. Yes, we are to be led by the Spirit, but the Word of God is our guide, no matter what mature level we our at, in the Lord. The Holy Spirit speaks to us through the reading of and using God's Word. Jesus said in the Gospel of Mark 13:31 "Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away."
---John on 2/16/07


Duane, did you say, we don't need the Bible? I rebuke that, in the name of Jesus.
---Peter on 2/16/07


We dont need the bible...We need the spirit of God. We are to be led of the spirit
---Duane on 2/16/07


When the Bible says faith comes by hearing, it doesn't say that this is the only way it comes. Remember, we see that many believed on Jesus when they saw the miracles he did.
---john on 2/13/07


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part2 why? because GOD can,t lie. scripture tells us that faith comes by hearing ,and hearing by the word of God. God has said you WILL HEAR THE WORD.when there WERE no bible availiable God made himself known to men and he would again.
---tom2 on 2/13/07


actually the new testament you have today were all written and in use within the liftimes of the 12 apostles.many within 20 or so years of jesus,s death.there were many others in use also known as the nostic gospels.praise God for the written word.if all the bibles wereto disappear,and all the churches it would not matter Jesus has already won.and the holy spirit would continue to convict men.but actually I don,t believe it could happen.
---tom2 on 2/13/07


For goodness sakes, Wake up all you people. A time may come, when it will be against the law right here in this nation, usa, to own or read the word of God. GET CLOSE TO GOD, NOW.
---catherine on 2/13/07


Eric, I never suggested that Bibles couldn't be taken away, the RCC has witnessed this time and again in her missionary work. And errors can creep in, the RCC has spent a lot of time and effort to keep errors from creeping in and weeding mistakes out. But, God did work through the RCC to keep the Bible intact and safe for our use. And the RCC preserved many manuscripts and not just the "final" versions so that this can be verified.
---lorra8574 on 2/12/07


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Lorra: "We have gotten very good at keeping the Bible intact and sharing it"

I believe that despite the numerous attempts of the enemy to destroy the bible, God has preserved it, by many different means. He deserves the glory. "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.Matthew 24:35,Mark 13:31,Luke 21:33
---Christina on 2/12/07


Lisas, AMEN! Many good, solid points made. Thank you for speaking the truth.
---Christina on 2/12/07


lorra, your living in a dream world if you think that Bibles can be taken away and mistakes not made. Maybe a handful of people can memorize it in the whole world, but that still leaves room for a lot of error.
---eric on 2/11/07


John, I believe what you wrote is correct. A lot of what Augusta wrote is also correct but her intention was to support the Catholic church function. Yet is some that she wrote was true. First of all what Paul was teaching was something very new. It was the beginning of the Church period which now consisted everything that the New Testament was going to be about. The Jews were living by the law before that time and Paul and the others were teaching now about the New Covenant. The Covenant of grace.
---Lisas on 2/11/07


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#2. I believe Christina made the point more clear. She spoke of the work of the Holy Spirit. That is the Covenant of grace at work. It is the Holy Spirit that brings to light the word of God to the indiviuals. Without the work of the Spirit you can read the word of God and nothing will change in your life. God, through the Holy Spirit convicts the hearts of the lost to bring them to faith. The reformers main points in there strive against the Catholic church were three things.
---Lisas on 2/11/07


#3. 1. The sufficiency and supremacy of Holy Scripture. 2. The right of private judgment 3. Justification by faith only, without the deeds of the law. The Catholic church only had the Scriptures, while the followers were following what was been taught by the Church. People of themselves had no way of knowing whether what was taught was true or not. They had to be true to their Church which was their goal. Without the access of Scripture to the people, the church could do what they wanted and did.
---Lisas on 2/11/07


#4. Yet, even through that time, God made it possible for all people to know for themselves through the work of men like Luther and others who made Scripture available to everyone. Of course the church was afraid what would happen and it did, many after finding out for themselves that what was taught was false, they left the church. God's word was going to survive no matter what anyone was going to do. It is still as powerful now as it was when written.
---Lisas on 2/11/07


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