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Anne,
Anyone born of God CANNOT commit sin. I just presume all saints know this. Are you born again Anne? Are you still a sinner?
If you want scripture, Im sure you know where its at.
---duane on 6/7/09


Duane,
You wrote: "The wages of sin is death." That is, those who continue to sin will face eternal death that is, they will burn in hell fire. And you say also that you are sinning continually and will do so until you die. Then, after death you are looking forward to burn in hell. Even though it is true, it is not a happy ending. Wish you well.
---Dave on 6/7/09


There is information that gives the impression you cannot lose your salvation, but if you take that information and do not apply it to the rest of the word of Christ you will go to hell believing it. He said no man can remove you from the fathers hand, that is a true statement,but he also said your actions can cause the Father, not a man to remove you.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
---Exzucuh on 6/7/09

Amen AMEN AMEN AMEN!!! Well said!
---miche3754 on 6/7/09


There is information that gives the impression you cannot lose your salvation, but if you take that information and do not apply it to the rest of the word of Christ you will go to hell believing it. He said no man can remove you from the fathers hand, that is a true statement,but he also said your actions can cause the Father, not a man to remove you.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
---Exzucuh on 6/7/09


Dave~ I enjoyed your polite, yet very direct questions to duane to try and clear up the confusion.

duane~ You responded to Dave but still did not answer any of his specific questions.

duane, could you maybe just start by answering one question of Dave's?:

Dave asked: "Do you say that born-again saints will not commit sin or they will continue to commit sin?"

Could you please begin by answering this quesion? Thanks duane.
---Anne on 6/7/09




Find out on Judgement Day. One thing is certain, if you hate others you may be in big trouble.
---carpenter on 6/7/09


Mima said,
"Well I want to bad mouth MarkV but I totally agree with what he says so move over MarkV and I will share the whip of these selfrightious people!!!"
Mima, thank you so very much for taking the lash's of the whip for me my brother on this Sunday the day of our Lord. You are a true brother for doing what you have done.
It takes alot for a person to stick up for me. It takes a lot for someone to share with you his faith.
Shawn T. has posted so many times and he writes so good that a person would have to be blind to not see the Truth.
Forgive them for they know not what they do when they act in vengence to another.
---MarkV. on 6/7/09


Dave,
I dont know how to make it any clearer...
The wages of sin is death. Sin had to be taken away for mankind to live.
Through the Blood of Christ we HAVE forgiveness of sin, by HIS LIFE we are saved. We need both, HIS Blood and HIS resurrected life.
If Christ has not risen, your faith is in vain. We all need forgiveness of sin AND HIS life in us. We need life, a new life which we Christians have. Praise God.
---duane on 6/7/09


Duane,

You are not saying anything, but confusing it more.

I know that without Christ all will continue to sin and with Christ nobody will sin. Is that what you are saying?

Do you say that a born again saints will not commit sin or they will continue to commit sin?

Do you say that those who are saved cannot commit sin or they will continue to sin?

You say: sin=death. It is not true, the punishment for committing sin is eternal death that is hell.

You say: salvation=life. But, salvation is to be saved from sin and consequently have eternal life.

What do you mean by saying they don't mix. What are they?

I hope you will clarify them. Thanks.
---Dave on 6/6/09


Anne,If we dont understand what people write, then we should ask for an explaination and not condemn. I read and reread everything most people write in here. I understand where your coming from but I MUST write what Im led to write. I must proclaim what Christ came to do and what HE did for mankind. If that confuses some I hope it helps others.
---duane on 6/6/09




Duane~ I agree with what Dave just said concerning the way you write. The way you write is extremely contradictory in nature and you are sending mixed messages. This is not a healthy and wise way to witness. People who witness need to give a clear steadfast message of truth so they may help others to understand the full truth of God's word.
---Anne on 6/6/09


Duane~ I agree with what Dave just said concerning the way you write. The way you write is extremely contradictory in nature and you are sending mixed messages. This is not a healthy and wise way to witness. People who witness need to give a clear steadfast message of truth so they may help others to understand the full truth of God's word.
---Anne on 6/6/09


Dave~ You're absolutely correct and thank you for correcting me. I still have a lot to learn and I'm thankful God has given me a bold straight forward teaching teacher like you.

You're right, Jesus was not politically correct. Jesus wanted to put the fear of God in people's heart so they could hopefully steer clear of evil and follow the Lord the rest of the days of their life.

Some people we have to rebuke with extreme seriousness for we are dealing with people's souls which is one's most precious possession.

I know you are letting the Holy Spirit guide your words and I appreciate the excellent witness you are here. Thank you for your corrections and God bless you dear brother.
---Anne on 6/6/09


Dave,
I said, in the flesh(without Christ) all will sin and continue. We Christians are now made holy in HIS sight set free from sin. A born again saint is not a sinner. Its totally impossible to have salvation and have sin at the same time. Sin = death
Salvation= life. They dont mix.
---duane on 6/6/09


Yes, we can lose salvation so let us all put on God's armor daily.

Many times people who sincerely repent later get enticed by temptation and submit back to sins.
Two obvious examples were David and Solomon.
Sin is of the devil.
You can't serve God and sin both.
Sin separates/contaminates.
God does not 'know those' who serve sin.

This is why DAILY we must put on the armor of God to protect ourselves from this evil world and protected by God.

Wonderfully, David at last repented/returned after at least 9 months of sinful living. while Solomon never returned.
This is why the Bible is so full of warnings to be on guard against deception/temptations.
---Anne on 6/6/09


Duane,
You wrote: "Once saved, you are absolutely without sin, etc, etc."
Or, more accurately we can say, When you are absolutely without sin, we are saved. This is true according to the Bible, but not according to Christians.
What you have written is true word to word. But, do you have a hidden meaning to it?- since you have written before that "I think no one can obtain salvation, for all will sin and will continue to sin until death." Is it some kind of trick? Or, is it real?
---Dave on 6/6/09


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MarkV,
You picked John 8:47 to prove that all the people of the world are deaf and cannot hear the word of God. It is not even common sense. Look the scripture in its context. "John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because YE CANNOT HEAR my word." It does not mean that they are deaf and could not hear, but they don't want to hear because it is hard for them to obey. Verse 47 is continuance. It means that they do not obey the word, and it is not that they are deaf and did not hear the word.
---Dave on 6/6/09


Once saved, you are absolutely without sin, for no sin shall enter.
Look to your redeemer and be set free from sin.
Salvation is Christ in you.
---duane on 6/6/09


Anne,
Thank you for the caution.
Jesus Christ was never politically correct. Of course it cost his life. He died so that we may follow his steps, even it may put us in the altar. "1Peter 2:21 For even HEREUNTO were ye CALLED: because Christ also suffered for us, LEAVING US an EXAMPLE, that YE SHOULD FOLOW his steps:" Either we will follow him, or we will not follow him. There is no midway. Jesus Christ never was politically correct. What do you want to be?
---Dave on 6/6/09


Anne,
Thank you for the caution.
"John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I AM THE LIGHT of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in DARKNESS, but shall have the LIGHT of LIFE."
Darkness is ignorance as well as sin. Light of life is holiness comes from righteousness. As Jesus started to proclaim this ..... read John 8:12-59. In verse 44 Jesus says, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father YE WILL DO." Those who do sin are of Satan and those who do righteousness is of God. Please read Matt 23:13-33. "Matt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the DAMNATION of HELL?" Jesus was never politically correct.
---Dave on 6/6/09


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Suzie~ You're correct. On 6/4 MarkV told me "when something is free as grace is free, there can be no conditions."

On my next post I replied back and said that there IS a condition concerning salvation and that condition is to follow the Lord Jesus/Holy Spirit.

Now today Mark claims on this 'Cannot Loose Salvation blog" 6/5 that there IS a condition to follow for salvation which is to follow the teachings of the Christ.

YES, you're right, he HAS changed his mind and understands that salvation is conditional at least according to what he says today. That would be wonderful if he maintained this view.
---Anne on 6/5/09


MarkV,
Reference your post to Miche on 6/5/09:
You started your letter saying that you are a forgiven sinner, but you are not. In Ephesians 2:2-3, their life of sin was their past, not the life present, so they are saved according to verse 5 in the Bible. But, your life of sin is at present and you are promising that the life of sin will continue in your future. So, according to the Bible you are not saved.
---Dave on 6/5/09


Amen Dave! You wrote an excellent statement on 6/4 concerning the meaning of true Justification in Christ.

You wrote:

"The true God converts the filthy ungodly people into godly obedient people when they hear Him and open the door and He makes them just person."

Yes, justification is not merely saying you 'believe' in God, but justification involves when God changes us from a once 'unjust' person (who loved sin, cheating, deceit, malice etc.) into a JUST person who now loves to live in obedience to God and do His will instead of our own will.

Very well said and God bless.
---Anne on 6/5/09


MarkV,
You wrote to dave on 6/5/09: Dave, there is no twisting of words concerning the word of God.

The Bible says "if any one hears" and you have interpreted as "Only those who are saved can hear." The Bible says ANYONE, but you twisted to say ONLY THOSE WHO ARE SAVED. Now you say that it is not a twist concerning the word of God. Satan twisted the word of God with Eve at the Gorden of Eden. Now, you are doing the same thing.
---Dave on 6/5/09


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Mark, yes God did knock on your door. Th door of your heart then you chose to open the door because HE showed you through HIS word that you needed him and you let him in to clean you up.
By the way Mark, when you go saved you became a Saint. you are not a sinner anymore. Sinners are those NOT in Christ.
---miche3754 on 6/5/09


MarkV~ Please read the "How to blog on Christianet" blog. We all make mistakes, but it seems you perpetually twist what people say and people like Miche, Suzie, Alan, myself etc keep asking you to stop twisting our words.

If you always twist what PEOPLE say, why was Dave wrong in suggesting that you regularly twist God's Word as well? Dave made a sensible conclusion.

Mark, We ALL blog here anonymously. Example: 'Nana' uses his name in honor of his wife. Why did you accuse Dave of using another name when we all blog anonymously. We are not to judge by what we choose to 'name' ourselves, but by the content of our character.
---Anne on 6/5/09


To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?

A 'Brethren' is a Believer of Christ endeavoring to do wonderful works in His Name as a 'Servant' BUT not all the Brethren who've said Lord Lord, are Converted & Saved by a Sincere Vow of Repentance to deny the will of their flesh to Joyously Live in His Will and they shall still be judged as the evil hearted unbelieving workers of iniquity who Christ doesn't know & never knew(Matt.7:21-23).

Many Brethren as in James 5:19-20 & Luke 12:45-46, who later find themselves rejecting the Spirit & living in the sin of 'Apostatizing', really didn't in their initial Vow of Repentance Sincerely deny the will of their flesh. Jesus is not deceived & He ONLY Saves Sincere Repenter!
---Shawn_M.T. on 6/5/09


Dave, there is no twisting of words concerning the word of God. It is all in your mind because you just have to argue about something. My spiritual discernment tells me you are hiding or an imposter. Using another name to hide who you really are. That is very obvious.
You again accuse me of twisting God's word but it is you who doesn't understand because you cannot hear the Truth, the Bible says,
"He who is of God hears God words, therefore you do not hear because you are not of God" John 8:47.
Now you claim to know the Truth and when someone gives Truth to you, you cannot see it.
---MarkV. on 6/5/09


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MV on 6/4/09:"And when something is free as grace is there can be no conditions."

So you have changed your mind and do believe there are conditions for receiving and keeping the Holy Spirit.

That is Wonderful.
---SuzieH on 6/5/09


Miche, I'm a forgiven sinner. God did not knock on my door, He came an opened my heart. I was dead in my trespasses and sins, following the course of this world, like everyone else I was doing what they were doing, trying to be in control of my life and I was failing. When I first saw Christ in my life, I felt the pain He felt when the stakes were driving through His hands. And I cried for Him. Never had I felt such a thing for Him. That day I told Him to forgive me, that I was sorry for all pain He went through for me. To this day I remember it like it was yesterday. When He opens someone's heart you don't deny Him, you fall on your knees and beg for forgiveness. All those stories that people see Him and refuse Him is all a bunch of lies.
---MarkV. on 6/5/09


Suzie, how can you disagree when you answered as I believe.
1. They must first believe, but just believing is not good enough, you have to have faith and trust in Christ. You have to have faith.
2. Rev. 2:23 is talking about the church at Thyatira, in which they had allow the women Jezebel who called herself a prophitess to teach and seduce the rest of the converts and God was calling them to repent from what they were doing. The church had become corrupt in its teachings.
3. There is condition for a church to be called a church of God, they have to follow the teachings of Christ. Otherwise they are a fallen church. It is talking about the whole church in general.
---MarkV. on 6/5/09


Dave~ Your post on 6/4 is so true and something I am constantly trying to share with MarkV as well. The truth is exactly what you said: That when the Bible is referring to 'works of man' it is referring to the works of Judaism. The 'works of man' are most definitely not referring to the fact that we must be doing the works of obedience to Christ however which occurs when we abide in the Lord and live as His deciples.

Dave~ You're a bold, straight to the point teacher and I love that. However, please be a bit more careful about statements like your last sentence on 6/4 and your last sentence on 6/5. Check out the "How to blog on Christianet blog" concerning the cautions. The moderator is speaking frequently there. Thanks Dave!
---Anne on 6/5/09


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Markv,
Weren't you a sinner?
Didn't Christ knock at your door(heart)?
He knocked on mine.
I was a sinner & I heard Christ's voice!
The difference between me & someone not saved is I opened the door. I even remember the words. They are in my heart forever. I was having a very hard time, and while was at a house service he came And said " Let me help you. You can't do this alone. I can make everything right if you'll just let me."
my little brother was there too, and Christ spoke to him, but he refused him.
In the opposite, some Christians push Christ out of their heart & shut the door on him again. That's losing salvation. They had faith but the cares of the world drowned out Christ's voice to them.
---miche3754 on 6/5/09


A slave can obey and yet hate his master. Why are most here proclaiming obedience when there can be no true obedience without love. The question should be, Do u love HIM?
Does not love produce true obedience?
So much nonsense in here.
---duane on 6/5/09


MarkV,
On 6/4/09, in reply to Suzie, You wrote:
"if anyone hears My voice and opens the door,... Only those who are saved can hear the voice of the Lord"
According to you: "if anyone hears My voice" = "Only those who are saved can hear the voice of the Lord"
That is, when God says anyone, it means only those who are saved. Why do you have to twist the scriptures all the time? I know why. You are the servant of someone else.
---Dave on 6/5/09


Markv,
That passage means that Christ comes to everyone's heart and stands there and knocks.
Even sinners can her Christ's voice, they just don't obey it or "open the door".
Christ said "My sheep hear my voice AND obey"
Notice the and?
Everyone hears but only his sheep will obey.
Again, it seems you are saying that Christ only came for some when Christ says himself he came for ALL!
The doctrine you follow has twisted scripture so bad that it even believes some are destined for Hell when God himself said that it was NOT made for us and that he wants to save ALL of us. That is WHY he sent Christ to reconcile ALL man back to their creator- GOD.
---miche3754 on 6/5/09


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'Works for salvation' means:

Trusting in doing things to earn salvation such as circumcision, regular church attendance, etc. while still loving this world and/or sin.

'Works for salvation' is NOT:

When GOD Works THROUGH us to do His will but evidence that we are true children/deciples of the Lord's. These works include:

1. Walking in the Spirit and forsaking the flesh/our will.
2. Growing in God's wisdom.
3. Love for others.
4. Withstanding persecutions through strength of Holy Spirit.
5. Following/being a true deciple of Jesus by living in obedience to His will.
6. Sincerely repenting of sin
7. Growing in purity, and righteousness.
8. Having a clean clear conscience.
9. Sharing the good news.
---Anne on 6/4/09


MarkV,
On 6/4/09, in reply to Suzie, You wrote:
"works for salvation is"
When the word of God says "not of works" pertained to salvation, it refers to works of Judaism. But, you interpret "not of works" as "not by obeying Christ." For you, obedience to Christ is works. You finish the sentence saying that we are are not saved by obeying Christ. You think and preach that you are not saved by obeying Christ, but by obeying Satan who is telling not to obey Christ. So, I am telling you that you are not saved at all and you will find a place with Satan in the judgment of God.
---Dave on 6/4/09


MarkV,
On 6/4/09, in reply to Suzie, You wrote:
"Justification by faith in Christ is not even mentioned anymore,"
Your meaning of Justification is this: Your god will call filthy ungodly sinning people as just persons. This is your justification. But, the true God converts the filthy ungodly people into godly obedient people when they hear him and open the door and he makes them just persons. This is the justification of God.
---Dave on 6/4/09


Mima,
You wrote: Those who see Grace as having "conditions" simply do not understand the definition of grace!
It is irresponsible and ignorant to make a statement without evidence. Look at the conditions for grace:
(1). James 4:6 ... he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth GRACE unto the HUMBLE.
(2). Rom 1:5 ... we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE ...
(3). 2Cor 12:9 ... My GRACE is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in WEAKNESS. ...
(4). Eph 2:5 ... we were dead in sins, hath quickened us TOGETHER WITH CHRIST, by GRACE ye are saved,
Here we see four conditions for grace, to be humble, to obey, to be weak, and to be with Christ, not to disobey Christ.
---Dave on 6/5/09


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The Lord made clear that he loves the church of Laodicea in verse 19, only that he councels them to turn from their ways and overcome their self set obstacles, just as he "also overcame". The advice given to the churches in revelation says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches." So, the advice is for all of us. Most serious, "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment, and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels." Gee! No more "an advocate with the Father"?
The Lord made sure the churches HEARD.
---Nana on 6/5/09


I cant follow in Jesus foot steps..(CANT WALK ON WATER) but I can rest in HIM and what HE has done for me.
---duane on 6/4/09


MV,

Sir, you are not speaking directly to the point of your statement.
"And when something is free as grace is there can be no conditions."

I respectfully disagree, and the evidences are:

1...for he that cometh to God must believe that he is...Heb11:6
They must first believe to receive the free gift.

2. In Rev 2:23, if His church cont. sinning and did not repent
God said He will kill them. (destruction)

If there were no conditions for retaining the Holy Spirit,
once they received the free gift they would no longer
be in danger of destruction.

But Christ said they are in danger of being destroyed.
So there are conditions.
---SuzieH on 6/4/09


To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?

When we 'Sincerely Repent', we're vowing to denied the will of our flesh to Joyously Live in the Will of our Lord Jesus.

If later we're living in sin & rejecting His Spirit, then we didn't Sincerely denied the will of our flesh, in our initial vow of Repentance. Jesus is not deceived & He ONLY Saves Sincere Repenter.

God Judges us according to our will & by sincerely denied it, His Grace Draws us into Saving Faith in Christ. It's why the Lord said, "Ye have not chosen me, but I have Chosen you"

Just as "We're only able to Love God because He First Loved us", we're only able to obediently persist til the end by the Lord's Obedience unto Death Lives in us.
---Shawn_M.T. on 6/4/09


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Suzie H, God told the churches to repent because through the years they had become lukewarm. Many in the churches were not even truely saved. As it is in many churches today. At one church God said, "I stand at the door and knock, (listen to this) if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come to him and dine with him" Only those who are saved can hear the voice of the Lord and not one answered.
The Churches need to clean their places. Wrong doctrines are entering many churches as it did at the RCC. Justification by faith in Christ is not even mentioned anymore, works for salvation is. That is a false doctrine and so many have fallen to the backside. That is the falling away spoken of in Thess.
---MarkV. on 6/4/09


There is one question to this issue of eternal salvation. If salvation cannot be lost what is the meaning of apostate?
---larry on 6/4/09


Those who see Grace as having "conditions" simply do not understand the definition of great!
---mima on 6/4/09

So, are you saying those who are saved by Christ DON"T have to follow in his footsteps as HE says we are supposed to do?

I am just curious because to me, that is what you are saying when you say that there are no "conditions" to Christ's Grace.
Christ says for us to abide in him and he will abide in us.
What happens mima, if we are NOT following Christ?
See, this is why we must tell the WHOLE truth. Christ saves you as long as you are following in HIS footsteps. If you aren't following Christ, you aren't his.
---miche3754 on 6/4/09


Gn 6
The wickedness of man was great
The LORD said I will destroy them.

Noah was a just man
Noah walked with God
According to all God commanded him, so did he

Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD
But with thee will I establish my covenant
to keep them alive
for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

Conclusions:
The wicked God will destroy.
The righteous God will keep alive through His Covenant.

The Wicked:
The imagination of the thoughts of his heart are evil.
They do not keep the Commandments.

The Righteous:
Keep Gods Commandments, by doing so
they are walking with God
they are called Just and Righteous.
---SuzieH on 6/4/09


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Anyone who is really "saved" is saved forever. The information (weird term) or assurance you are looking for is in the most incredible prayer in all of scripture - John 17. This should have you joining David and dancing for joy.



17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine, and I am glorified in them.
Joh 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
Joh 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition, that the scripture might be fulfilled...
---larry on 6/4/09


Those who see Grace as having "conditions" simply do not understand the definition of great!
---mima on 6/4/09


amen Suzie!
And we live in that age also. Where false docrine is all around us.
It is during this time Christ is speaking of. He knows we are getting ready to face hard trials so he tells us to hold on, endure so that we will be given the everlasting life he has promised to us.
The great falling away is coming if not already here. Christians are falling away because they are believing the enemies lies.
Those that fall away from Christ will lose their salvation. Christ says this to us.
SO saints, Hold fast to Christ. In hard times get as close to him as you can because the worst has not even come yet.
---miche3754 on 6/4/09


MV,

If what you said was true,
then Christ would not have told the churches
(in Rev = NT) to repent of their sins,
or else he would kill her children (followers)

Rev 2:23
And I will kill her children with death,
and all the churches shall know
that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and
I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Why do you think He searches the hearts?
It is because that is where men are defiled or are found pure.

Rev 2:7...To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life...

We must overcome sin everyday, because:

Mat 24:13
But he that shall endure unto the end,
the same shall be saved.
---SuzieH on 6/4/09


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There is a condition and that condition is to follow the Lord Jesus/Holy Spirit.

We have a choice...

We can choose to abide in the Lord. If we abide in the Lord, the Lord does His works in our life. Our conscience remains clean as we grow in the Lord. God will continuously guide/nurture us.

OR

We can choose to reject the Spirit and continue in a sin/sins. Sin is what separates us from God. If we choose to sin/return to darkness and not repent (even if we were once walking in the Light), this separates us from God unless we earnestly choose to repent/turn from sin.

Do not be like most who choose or return to the broad easy road...remain on the strait and narrow. You can know victory in Christ Jesus.God bless.
---Anne on 6/4/09


Anne, the first three are correct, the last one is not. You say there is conditions. And when something is free as grace is there can be no conditions.
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, been justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith to demonstrate His rightousness."
God declares a sinner righteous solely on the basis of the merits of Christ righteousness. God imputed a believers sin to Christ's account in His sacrificial death (Is. 53:4,5, 1Peter 2:24) and He imputes Christ's perfect obedience to God's law to Christians 5:18, 1 Cor. 1:30).
---Mark_V. on 6/4/09


God's grace is not a 'free ticket' to heaven.

The Bible says:

1. Through following the Lord Jesus, and through obedience to the Holy Spirit, we must persist in doing good so He'll give us eternal life. (Rom.2:7)

2. We must deny the flesh and instead sow to please the Spirit to reap eteral life. (to 'reap' eternal life means to eventually gain eternal life IF we remain faithful in following/abiding/obeying Him.)(Gal 6:8,9)

3. We must endure in Him to the end on the strait and narrow. (Lk 13:24) God's Spirit remains with those who remain in His Spirit. If we choose to sin and not repent, we again are separated from God until we earnestly repent. If we choose to walk/abide in the Lord He continuously guides us.
---Anne on 6/3/09


To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?

We're able to Love God because He First Loved us and it's only through being Drawn by God's Love into the Charity of Loving our Lord, God with all our Heart, Soul & Mind, that we're able to 'Endure'(persevere) all things :FOR Charity never faileth!!

Do not be deceived, it's not of your own strength but the 'Passion of Christ' which has persevered unto Salvation. All Glory goes to God for supplying all the needs of the Chosen Elect through His Riches & Glory in Christ Jesus : Whose strength is made perfect in God's Children's weakness, enabling us to do all things, 'Persevering' in His Obedience Unto Death. (2Cor.12:9
---Shawn_M.T. on 6/2/09


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To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?

The Body of Christ is a 'Great Team' who humbly & harmoniously works together for Christ sake to Edify the Brethren.

The will of God's Children is that 'His Will Be Done' AMEN. Salvation isn't a 'Reward' but a 'Inheritance' : God's Free Gift to 'Whosoever Ask'(James 4:1-3) to be Born-Again, into the Obedience Unto Death of Christ.

Now shall we sin, being Saved under Grace, God forbid!(Rom.6:15-22) We no longer put our Trust in man made teachings, no matter how nefariously wise, serious or sound it appears. God nor His Elect shall be deceived, because we have a relationship with His indwelling Spirit who Guides, Teaches & keep us in Remembrance of the Truth we're Sealed unto in Christ.
---Shawn_M.T. on 6/2/09


To Whosoever Has An Ear To Hear?

Be not deceived, there are many people who believe they are Saved Christians from reciting a Salvation Prayer but remain careless with God's Holy Word do to an unchanged heart & still purposefully/willfully/deliberately sin in their daily lives. OSAS is not True the way many preachers & teachers are falsely advocating it in their books & pulpits, but that doesn't make it none the less True.

The Truth of 'Once Sealed Always Sealed' applies to those who have been Born-Again Sealed with the Spirit of Promise by Saving Faith in Christ unto Obedience, Love, Truth, Holiness, Forgiveness & Mercy by God's Grace. Truly turned from the evil sins of the world.
---Shawn_M.T. on 5/31/09


This question is asked so often. But, the wording is always wrong. It is "lose" not "loose" your salvation. Here are two sentences to explain the differences. The dog got loose out of the yard. When I was pregnant I wore "loose" clothes to be comfortable. You cannot lose your salvation, but you can turn away from God. No one can take it away from you. But, you can walk away from it.
---Susie on 8/27/07


If a person accepts jesus as the messiah, asks him into their heart, turns away from sin,(repents)forgiveness. salvation is a gift from god, only through the shedding of christ's blood. no. if you were ever truly saved, no, you cannot lose it. I don't believe our heavenly father would ever let us stray so far away that we couldn't get back to him.conviction can sometimes be mistaken for condemnation, we are no longer condemned.
we are truly saved through christ's blood, once. god bless. kim9854
---kimberlynn on 3/2/07


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Many peope receive the knowledge of the truth. that does not make them saved. What makes someone saved is God's grace. Not of works but of grace. There is nothing in you worth anything to give God for your salvation. It is all paid by the death and resurrection of Christ. If it takes for man to contribute to that salvation, then it is not all of grace but of your works also. We are under a new covenant not under the law of works.
---Lisas on 2/16/07


2. "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been called according to His purpose." We were called according to His purpose not our own purpose. And we know that those called God works for the good to those that love Him. Who will bring any charge to those against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies, who died, Who is he that condemns? Who really can separate us from the love of Christ?
---Lisas on 2/16/07


Is there any more to say?I believe Tom and Lisa have said it all:to this blog and most others.
---Martin on 2/4/07


Great answer Tom. I am with your answer. It is all about Christ and His work in us. ".. Who saved us and called us with a holy calling, not in virtue of our works but in virtue of His own purpose and grace which He gave us in Christ Jesus ages ago."
---lisa on 2/3/07


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That was beautiful TOM, your discription of salvation.
---CATHERINE on 2/3/07


Salvation is a spiritual activity and cannot be achieved by the activity of the flesh. Salvation is the process of sanctification brought about "through" the spiritual activity of "Christ in you".
---Tom on 2/2/07


No one can snatch us away,but we can jerk ourselves loose.On judgment day some who did great miracles(received great gifts)will be sent away.Thus they received and then rejected-backslided.The parable of the sower says it all.Once is not for all its a daily choice to submit your life and will totally to Jesus or risk being found lacking.
---Martin on 2/2/07


For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

This is why the Holy Spirit has to show a person, because human reason cannot nail down all that the Bible says about salvation.
---Pharisee on 2/2/07


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1 Peter 1:23

"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."
---Tom on 2/1/07


Rickey::Merely Quoting Ephesians & JN 3 look at same JN3:18If you do not believe in Matt16;17-19 You have no Faith in HIM so where is the belief in your salvation ITS ALL or nothing at all.
---Emcee on 2/1/07


Susie; if a person themselves can walk away then God made a mistake when he used the word eternal." Jesus said," no man(mankind) can snatch you out of my hand" if a person can get out of God's hand, then God lied. Think about it.
---Mima on 2/1/07


Ephesians 1:7,13; Ephesians 4:30; John 3:16-17;
---Rickey on 2/1/07


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Heb 10:26 For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, There is no scripture that tells us we can not lose are salvation.In Fact the very opposite.If you sin ye shall surely die.
---chris_sizemore on 2/1/07


Some people have never even had for a moment mastery over all inclination to sin.

Then there's those who sometimes get to walk in High places and yet live.

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil.
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. 1Thessalonians 5:21-24
---Pharisee on 1/31/07


"For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God."

Of course, there's a great deal of difference between what most people here mean by being saved and what the Bible means by being saved.
---Jack on 1/31/07


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