ChristiaNet MallWorld's Largest Christian MallChristian BlogsFree Bible QuizzesFree Ecards and Free Greeting CardsLoans, Debt, Business and Insurance Articles

Is The Pope The Real Deal

I see the Pope on TV and he seems to act like he has an inside advantage with God that no one else has. He has this throne like he is a king. Is the Pope the real deal?

Join Our Free Singles and Take The False Traditions Bible Quiz
 ---need_to_know on 2/3/07
     Helpful Blog Vote (14)

Post a New Blog



Do you think Christ was smart enough to set one of the apostles apart as the head of the others and of His Church so that he could keep everyone together in times of theological disagreements? Why didn't he think of it? Oh, but he did! He even prayed about it: "Holy Father, protect them in your name that you have given me, so that they may be one, as we are one." Jesus prayed these words in the Upper Room on the night of his betrayal, knowing that crucifixion would follow with the coming sunrise. But free will and Luther rained on that party. The Papacy is the real deal. All the Luthers of history and the gates of Hell will not prevail against her.
---Victor on 4/6/09

Yes, Jesus truly knows the minds of men!
---Natalie2 on 4/7/09


Do you think Christ was smart enough to set one of the apostles apart as the head of the others and of His Church so that he could keep everyone together in times of theological disagreements? Why didn't he think of it? Oh, but he did! He even prayed about it: "Holy Father, protect them in your name that you have given me, so that they may be one, as we are one." Jesus prayed these words in the Upper Room on the night of his betrayal, knowing that crucifixion would follow with the coming sunrise. But free will and Luther rained on that party. The Papacy is the real deal. All the Luthers of history and the gates of Hell will not prevail against her.
---Victor on 4/6/09


Lets see, Nicole. I have so many mountains of documents that I could refer you to, how about the Concordiat that was struck between the Vatican and Hitler? That seems a major problem, historically.
---frances008 on 10/9/08


Nicole, documents that prove RCC to be Satanic. Any photos of the popes carrying bent and disfugured crucifix. Any photo of popes kissing mother earth. Photos of popes at Black Madonna shrines. Any photo of service with last pope in Assisi in which freemsons, witchdoctors and others of various false religions stood at the altar of the Catholic Cathedral and worshipped together.
---frances008 on 10/9/08


Nicole,
You blame the protestants for everything, The jesuits oath is true, look it up. You say its all lies, but yet refuse to investigate it. Why?
Look at it for what it is, if your right then dont be afraid to look into it.
---wayne on 9/11/08

I have posted my investigation several times. But, one of the Moderators refuses to post them.

But, I am saying that the truth is out there, Wayne.
Just really look for it.
More information about lies and falsehoods.
And, the Truth is fewer but isn't hard to find.

I am not good online, but even I found the REAL JESUIT'OATH within 5 minutes.

The secret is in what you put in the search line.
---Nicole on 10/7/08




Matt 16:16-19

The Head and foundation:Jesus Christ.

The Head of "HIS BODY"...
"THE CHURCH".


BODY OF Christ...

Paul:CHOSEN
Apostle succession?

...Go thy way:for he is a CHOSEN vessel unto to ME,to bear MY NAME before the Gentiles,and kings and the children of Israel...
Scripture supports God as being the Rock of our Salvation...

Scripture supports Jesus as "IMMANUEL-GOD WITH US".

We were instructed of this and taught to be of ONE MIND in CHRIST JESUS.

WE:The Body of Christ...

WHO-SO-EVER...

confess the LORD JESUS...

WILL NOT BE ASHAMED.
ROMANS 10:9-11


God's peace.
---char on 10/7/08


**
...Flintstones lived there!!!! Oh wait...let's not forget Pebbles' good friend, Bam-Bam and the Rubbles too...
**

too funny!! what was that green martians name Gazoo???

rcc uses intellectual babble mixed with human reasoning diliberatly twisting verses creating their lies by USING their misunderstanding of Gods Holy Word by constantly programming their subjects

rcc ignorant due to programming they receive unable to see Paul minister to gentiles Peter minster to Jews ...Paul and John were main authors of NT ...Peter rebuked by Christ after given "keys" unable to see TRUTH behind one verse they base their entire system on

...ONLY Christ worthy of our worship THE ROCK of HIS spiritual church
---Rhonda on 9/11/08


Samuel:-You are right they did but strange when His mother Mary does the same thing in Her Apparations the hue and cry set up is enough to start another Tornado or hurricane like in New Orleans.
---MIC on 9/11/08


When John the Baptist preached and when Peter preached they called on everyone to repent turn from their sins.

That is an altar call.
---Samuel on 9/11/08


Frances :Those are your findings which I shall not contest as I may be guilty of Perjury in His court, a forthcoming event.
---MIC on 9/11/08




One bit of advice A church on sand gets washed away.Look for a good ROCK..Jesus took away the last solid ROCK.But there are pebbles.They are found in BED ROCK.
---MIC on 9/10/08

MIC/MC...Where does it say in the Bible that "Jesus took away the last solid rock"? Jesus is the one and only SOLID ROCK!!!! So...He took Himself away? Sheesh...where do you get this stuff?

Also...pebbles are found in BED ROCK? I though ALL the Flintstones lived there!!!! Oh wait...let's not forget Pebbles' good friend, Bam-Bam and the Rubbles too! I still love that show...my favorite childhood cartoon. :-)
---Holly4jc on 9/11/08


Nicole,
You blame the protestants for everything, The jesuits oath is true, look it up. You say its all lies, but yet refuse to investigate it. Why? How can you say doctrines havent changed. When the church was one we all celebrated the Feast of the Dormition of Mary, which means she died. Now the rcc celebrates the assumption. It wasnt until the 1800s that the rcc said Mary was the Immaculate Conception, which means she was saved from sin, which puts her on the same level as Christ. Rcc's doctrines keep changing. Look at it for what it is, if your right then dont be afraid to look into it.
---wayne on 9/11/08


Frances008, which historical documents?
Protestant historical documents?

This doesn't surprise Mic. We heard all these lies before.
What may surprise you, are the true history documents by Atheist, Jewish and Pagan historians accounts and documents calling Protestants a dying religion. No stable foundation.

When Protestants start to fight each other more are made. 33,000 foundations and counting.

How many foundations will you make before you realize that Jesus' Foundation is the only secure and protected one.
The Roman Catholic Church.
Matthew 16:18
And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the GATES OF THE NETHERWORLD SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.
---Nicole on 9/11/08


Nicole,
Pope is infallible on faith and morals. You agree with muslims worshiping the same God, good I agree also, but you proved my point. All of the popes up until Vatican 2 said there is no salvation outside the rcc. So who is wrong, them, or the popes since vatican 2. You havent put truth to me yet, so Im not worried about anything. If your so confident on what your saying, then study what I have told you. Nicole I told you in another post I felt you were a good devout person, I still believe that, but Im sorry, the rcc has done all I have said. And yes It is Fr. Wayne.
---wayne on 9/11/08


Mic, it is a pity that historical documents and the Word of God point to the RCC as the whore of Babylon.
---frances008 on 9/11/08


Hello Mark:- Congrtulations on your new Ministry.When did you start this what is its name,are you the leader? One bit of advice A church on sand gets washed away.Look for a good ROCK..Jesus took away the last solid ROCK.But there are pebbles.They are found in BED ROCK.
---MIC on 9/10/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Eating Disorders


Miss Holly :I believe I see your reasoning and by that same reason I dont find myriads of Denominations mentioned By Jesus in His word except "Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing"False prophets: thankfully not Prophetteses, although there is a verse alluding to silence by certain people, in the church But this is not a church, so I guess it's ok
---MIC on 9/10/08


""The Great harlot and the reason they have existed for almost two thousand years.""

The OT prophets frequently compared Israel to a dim-witted trollop.

Jesus said that Jerusalem was the one who killed the prophets and stoned those sent to her.

Jerusalem also sits on 7 hills.

Vatican, where is the head of the Catholic Church, has NEVER been rekoned one of the 7 hillls of Rome. If you try counting it, that makes 8 hills.

Which do you think is more likely to be the great whore, drunk with the blood of the saints?

I know this goes against what a lot of people want to think.
---katavasia on 9/10/08


I can keep going on--wayne

Please do keep on, but not the way you have been going. Give data not just opinions. Use the RCC's Catechism to back up your words. No need to lie. Use proofs if you can. Which you can't because even you know you are lying on the RCC.

Wayne read all the posts, and you will see the venom is coming from Protestants to Catholics.
You are mad because I throw your venom back at you.
The Pope never apologize for a false doctrine, because there hasn't been a false doctrine.
He has apologized for wrong done in Her name, which is better than many Protestants Leaders who refuse to apologize for their wrong. Like the Killings of Catholic in England. The Government apologized, but not their Church Leaders.
---Nicole on 9/10/08


Wayne or is it Fr. Wayne?, Jesus didn't give him the key. Only Peter has the key.

Our Priests don't retire, not rich or enjoy the marriage bed.

The Pope isn't infallible at every moment. We never claim this. The Pope is only infallible on Faith and Morals when He makes the annoucement. Pope Paul IV stated Birth Control pills are sinful.

The Pope isn't all knowing. Only God is. Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit will guide the Church until His return. The Holy Spirit allowed the Pope to understand that the pill is wrong. So the Pope used his Authority given by Jesus(Matt 16:19)to bind on earth and bound it in Heaven.

The Pope can not use the Holy Spirit to figure out the numbers for the next Megaball Jackpot!
---Nicole on 9/10/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Travel Packages


Wayne, yes, Muslims worship the same God the Father. The father of the Muslims is Abraham through his son Ishmael.

You mistaken the Pope's kiss.
Kissing the Quran is not an gesture of belief Sir.
The Pope has kissed the KJV bible. The KJV has missing books, changed or twisted wording in her pages.
The kiss is a sign of respect.
Are you American? If so, I can see how you misunderstood this gesture.
If you are from the East, then you know this already.

If I kiss your baby, is my kiss the same as your kiss? No. Your kiss is out of love, emotion and kinship.
I only kiss your baby because I think the baby is cute. She or he has diginity, image of God.
I think hamsters are cute, but I am not going to kiss it.
---Nicole on 9/10/08


Wayne, I know about the oath of Jesuits. I know Jesuits Priests.
I also know about the lies Protestant's added to the oath.

You see the Jesuits were started against the Reformers esp in England by Henry VIII and his daughter with their tortures of Catholics.
So, Protestants made up this false oath.

The Christian Conscience Apologetics wrote about this false oath. Goggle the 'The Jesuit Oath Debunked or The Oath of a Jesuit Catholic during the Reformation.

If you want to find falsehoods or lies, you can and will find them.
It is a little harder to find the truth at times.
But, the truth can be found if you TRULY WANT TO FIND IT!

You shall not utter a false report. (Exodus 23:1 [RSV])
---Nicole on 9/10/08


Ladies Holly Frances:-"There are none so blind who can't see But who won't see",-The 'see' in 'Holy see' represents the man made offices of the RCC just as the Man made churches of denominations.Please read to understand.The Holy spirit who guides This church of Our divine saviour CANNOT be wrong on matters of 'Truth, faith and morals'This is the infallibility God is never wrong and if you disagree with this then you will have to ask HIM ALMIGHTY GOD, if you ever get the opportunity.
---MIC on 9/10/08


Mic, I understand what I am doing. It is my ministry to speak for the Truth of God's Word and not fables, stories, and false doctrines.
The adoration and devotion to the Pope and saints is not Scriptural. No man other then Christ gets glory. Since the beginning of the RCC they have taken the glory away from Christ and have divided it to Mary and saints.
They refuse to accept the Holy Word of God as Authoritive. They use the Word of God for only for their own purpose by picking and choosing a verse out of context to fulfill their own destiney. That destiney which has to continue until its appoint time mentioned in Revelation 17. The Great harlot and the reason they have existed for almost two thousand years.
---Mark_V. on 9/10/08


Shop For Christian Colleges


**
quote with reference to those who desire an explaination to the Holy see:
Holy:-as an adjective Sacred ,spiritually Perfect,one who is of god,one who pactices the christian Virtues...
**

"quote with reference" by man made ideas NOT Gods HOLY WORD

...rcc creates its own rules laws wrapping up Christ in their pagan ways started by Constantine 300AD his fables to entertain the pagans

anyone can take "holy" making it whatever one chooses AND God allows this by free moral agency ...rcc just like Pharisee's have many laws ways ideas not from God

God gave true Christians HIS HOLY WORD

rcc is under spell of another spirit 2Corin 4:4 having no understanding of Gods Holy Word
---Rhonda on 9/10/08


Nicole,
The pope is not infallible, and never will you be able to prove it. The popes have constantly had to come out and apologize for wrong doctrine, for sins against people, and I can keep going on. The roman church has continually changed doctrine, shows that they are fallible. Look into your own church before you come out with all of this venom against people. Rcc is not the church it used to be, and you need to know this, vatican 2 went against the 7 ecumenical councils. Mary has become the co redeemer, and yet you say they do not teach these things.
---wayne on 9/9/08


Nicloe,
Heres another thing, do you believe muslims worship the same God? The pope of the roman church John Paul II says they do. Your current pope Benedict kissed the Quran. So what do you say? The popes gave thier blessings to the jesuits, have you read the jesuit oath? The oath speaks of killing innocent men women and children, just for not being catholic. And you still say the pope speaks for God , that he is infallible. The Coptic church has a pope, but he is looked at as the Bishop of the Holy See of Alexandria, and never is he called infallible. He lives in a monastery, not a palace, we as priests make next to nothing and we never retire. Our wives work, and our pope can be seen by anyone.He is not treated as a king or god on earth.
---wayne on 9/9/08


The Pope has apologized in Australia. Should that be a hint? MIC take off your blinders.
---frances008 on 9/9/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Credit Repair


""
Where exactly in the Bible is the concept of "holy see"? I've never heard that term before nor read it in the Bible.---Holly4jc""

You won't find the word "revival" in the Bible.

You won't find hymnals in the Bible.

You won't find altar calls and invitation hymns in the Bible.

You won't even find "Bible" in the Bible, when it gets down to that.
---katavasia on 9/9/08


MIC/MC....I understand the concept of "holy" for that is biblical and the outline of what God calls "holiness" is stated in the Bible. But the "holy see" concept or terminology is NOT in the Bible but a man-made thing. Just another one of those man-made doctrines the RCC is infamous for.
---Holly4jc on 9/9/08


Thank you Nicole...but I am fully aware of who the Holy Spirit is, being filled with the Holy Spirit myself as well as baptized by the Holy Spirit. Imagine that...and I'm not even part of the RCC!!! God is no respecter of persons...just as the Bible says. As the Bible says...if you BELIEVE in your heart and CONFESS with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and that God raised Him from the dead, you are saved. Voila!! Salvation!!
---Holly4jc on 9/9/08


Steve, let me break down the word 'Christian for you.
Christ ian.= Any one who believes in Jesus Christ.
Mexican. Anyone who is from Mexico.
Puerto Ricans Anyone who is from Puerto Rico

Catholic means univeral meaning anyone who was a Christian was in one Church the RCC.
1000 years only one Church.
1054 to 1530 Only 2 Churches.
1530's to now, Luther left and Chaos was born. 33,000 Denominations and couting.
Man gave birth to Chaos.
Jesus' Church remained intact for 1000yrs and still has Unity and growing.

As for confession. Argue with Jesus.
He can do as He pleases. Or did you forget He was God?
John 20:23 "Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them and whose sins you retain are retained."
---Nicole on 9/9/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Christian Products


I quote with reference to those who desire an explaination to the Holy see:
Holy:-as an adjective Sacred ,spiritually Perfect,one who is of god,one who pactices the christian Virtues:one who is in the state of Sanctifying grace,something dedicated to God,consecrated or devoted to Divine service,That which has been Blessed:as a noun:an attributed NAME of God:"THE HOLY ONE":those cannonised and called Blessed.SEE:-The soverign Pontiff together withthe Roman Congregation, Tribunals,and offices through which he transacts the affairs of Jesus Universal Church viz RCC.
---MIC on 9/9/08


Where exactly in the Bible is the concept of "holy see"? I've never heard that term before nor read it in the Bible.---Holly4jc

Holy See means Holy Spirit

Which is the Third of Person of the Trinity.
Remember Jesus gave keys to Peter in Matthew 16:13-19.

John 14:26
The Advocte, the Holy Spirit that the Father will send in my name-He will teach you everything and remind you of all that I told you.

So, the RCC is guided by the Holy Spirit.
So hence the Vatican is called the Holy See.

Also

Holy See, State of the Vatican City, The Holy See

Instance hypernyms:

see (the seat within a bishop's diocese where his cathedral is located)
---Nicole on 9/8/08


Some skip rocks on water to pass the time, some throw rocks to injure others, while some fish in The dead sea hoping to catch a fish.But if you cast your line where there is plenty you may catch a Carp or walleye, or yet even an eel.But you will never catch The truth,this you must seek.Because The truth never bites!Why did Jesus choose Fishermen to be the ones to spread His word of truth by word of Mouth?Why does satan choose intelligent men to spin a "fish story"?
---MIC on 9/8/08


In order for a story to be authentic one must Have supportive Facts not innuendoes, otherwise they are figments of the imagination.
---MIC on 9/8/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Christian Divorce


The Pope actually set up the situation for child molestors to be moved from parish to parish without the knowledge of their past sins, so that the church would avoid a scandal, and in the end the problem grew gigantic. Documentation is available to prove it, if you have the stomach for such research. I already know who the Pope is, so it is not worth wasting my time on finding (from articles on the internet) the extent of his involvemnet.
---frances008 on 9/8/08


No one ever responded to my question I wrote previously:

Where exactly in the Bible is the concept of "holy see"? I've never heard that term before nor read it in the Bible. Is this another one of those man-made doctrines of the RCC?
---Holly4jc on 9/8/08


No. not if you are a christian. If you are catholic "Yes". but christian "No". there is no such church infrastructure position of pope. and no where in the Bible does it say you have to go to another man to ask him to ask God for your forgiveness. Jesus is Salvation and personal recognition of his death and resurrection, plus a personal relationship with him equals heaven in short. Be careful of the word christian. christian is defined as a follower of Christ. Not catholic (which means: the general or universal church), and not mormon (which means: to follow the teaching of Joseph smith). do you research...
---steve on 9/8/08


Lets look at the protection of faith. Does the Holy Spirit teach the pope opposite of what the Father teaches?
1. No idol worship.
2. no faith in saints or Mary, but only Christ.
3. no changing of the word for the benefit of making money, power, injustices to others, who killed many for not converting to RCC, directions not found in Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 9/8/08

This is a waste of time, MarkV.
If the Pope taught idol worship, and put the Saints, Mary over Jesus, or killed anyone for not converting, I would debate you.

But, since you and I both know that the Pope, nor the RCC teaches this, LETS MOVE ON!

Debate on FACTS NOT FICTION!
---Nicole on 9/8/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Christian Marriage


What I was talking about in history of Popes who are still respected as doing the same evil but that seems to be okay. All who commit unrepentant sin in the name of GOD no matter what church should not be honored.
---Samuel on 9/8/08

Which Pope in history are been respected by the RCC for doing the same evil that seems to be okay by us?

Give a name and detail sin committed.
You are too vague.
Who can respond to you if you won't given more information?

No one honors any unrepentant sin of anyonein the RCC!

You know this, because you refuse to give detail information.

Unrepentant sin does not mean unpunished sin!
God is Judge!
---Nicole on 9/8/08


mark :Again you Play God, while you condemn the Pope you condenm yourself "bearing False witness"Do you really understand what you are doing?seek and you will Find.
---MIC on 9/8/08


MarkV, you have this odd thinking about the Holy Spirit guiding the Pope by a magical ball or something.
Everyone knows that raping a child is a mortal sin. No need for the Pope to make an anouncement.

Now, everyone does not think birth control pills are sinful.
This is where the Papal Infallibility comes into play.

The Holy Spirit protects the Pope on error when saying that birth control pills are sinful. Humanae Vitae by Pope Paul VI
The Holy Spirit allowed him to proclaim this truth.

Not that the Holy Spirit makes him all seeing. Or having the power of knowing what's going on in the world.
He isn't a god or angel.
You are confused about the meaning of Infallibility.
---Nicole on 9/8/08


Mark- I see your view.
Wheat and weeds will still be together on earth. Now those priests are taken out, thanks to God. Now there are new policies in effect to keep child molesters out of the RRC. Thanks to God.
What more do you want Mark?
I see repentance and forgiveness. I see consequences and remorse. I see change for the better. That makes me happy.
Every church has a leader. The Pope is the RRC's.
---paul on 9/8/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Debt Consolidation


Nicoles answer was, "The Holy Spirit only protects the pope from error when speaking of faith and morals"
We know already that what the Holy Spirit talked to the pope about in morals, such crimes did not stop. Either the pope didn't hear the Spirit, or there was no Spirit to begin with.
Lets look at the protection of faith. Does the Holy Spirit teach the pope opposite of what the Father teaches?
1. No idol worship.
2. no faith in saints or Mary, but only Christ.
3. no changing of the word for the benefit of making money, power, injustices to others, who killed many for not converting to RCC, directions not found in Scripture.
If the Spirit is talking to the pope about faith, it cannot be the Spirit of God.
---Mark_V. on 9/8/08


Nicole, I will not answer to the molestations of children again as I mentioned on another blog but will answer to the other matters of the Church. You said that, "The Holy Spirit only protects the Pope from error when speaking of faith and moral's,
Don't you think what was happening were moral sins? Are do moral sins not include what they were doing? A sin is a sin.
Look Nicole, this matter you can never cover up with any kind of excuse as you have other issues. This is public knowledge. I'am not the one asleep, it is you who needs to wake your mind up from the comatose state it's in. Good luck doing it, since Christians don't believe in luck.
---Mark_V. on 9/8/08


Samuel:-You are taking a page from Marks Book .Are you also a vigilante?I am sure you have read my Post so I shall not expound.FYI The fact that these molestations are prevalent among all of Christendom as also non believers ,but you make it a point to magnify one denomination,hence or fall under the same axe of condemnation, which is what you are seeking.MIMA to NOTE.
---MIC

First I was not referencing present leaders. They eventually did the right thing and remove the men from contact. What I was talking about in history of Popes who are still respected as doing the same evil but that seems to be okay. All who commit unrepentant sin in the name of GOD no matter what church should not be honored.
---Samuel on 9/8/08


MarkV, asleep in 2003?
Did you not see the Bishops removed and Priests going to jail?
Sleeping when Benedict XVI visited the USA last April?

I take no sin lightly, esp mortal sin!!
You are upset because I refuse to punish myself over their sins!
I didn't rape them!

The Holy Spirit only protects the Pope from error when speaking on Faith and Morals.

Fundamentalists and other "Bible Christians" often confuse the charism of papal "infallibility" with "impeccability." They imagine Catholics believe the pope cannot sin. Others, who avoid this elementary blunder, think the pope relies on some sort of amulet or magical incantation when an infallible definition is due.- Catholic Answers.
---Nicole on 9/7/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Refinancing


those who worship and serve rcc DEFEND priests calling events LIES no less
to be in bondage to men of rcc and god of this world brainwashed believing lies of their religious system so very unconcerned about the REAL lives of children who were destroyed by their religious leaders
evident their religious system is more precious then Christ or God
---Rhonda on 9/5/08

Then you need to leave your Church Rhonda.
Because if your Church teaches you that God wants His priest to rape Children, RUN, RUN!!
Don't put anything in front of God, or the Trinity.

By the way, you writings sounds like you are a robot, not totally in control of your words. You seem to be brainwashed by something or someone.

Kinda scary.
---Nicole on 9/8/08


Its not hard to understand!

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Mat 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Luk 11:17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and a house divided against a house falleth.

Luk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay, but rather division:

Your house is divided! Can it stand!
---Frank on 9/6/08


Paul ... "There are many other pastors in other Christian churches that have been convicted of child molestation. Not just the Catholic church.
I have investigated this and have found it is spread across the board of Christian churches"

You are quite right, the RCC is not alone in being plagued with these sick men.

I ahve recently reported on another blog that whn I was young, the two leaders of a very non-Catholic Bible class were active in that way (and tried to enrol me)

And the leaders of his church protected him even when the police started following up parents' suspicions.
---alan_of_UK on 9/6/08


Paul, thank you for your insight of others who have raped and molested children. In fact I have read of many cases. What you don't understand is that those people who molested other children from other denominations never claimed their church was the True church. None of them claim the Holy Spirit speaks only through them. No one claims that Peter is the Rock and first pope who passed his authority to the RCC and all popes. You see, Paul, if they did, I would be hammering them and looking into their denomination to make sure everyone understood that the denomination who was saying such things were wrong and not the true church, no fornicaters, molesters, murderers liars will enter the kingdom of Heaven, and I could proof it.
---Mark_V. on 9/6/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Franchises


Where exactly in the Bible is the concept of "holy see"? I've never heard that term before nor read it in the Bible. Is this another one of those man-made doctrines of the RCC?
---Holly4jc on 9/6/08


**
My God would never allow a rape of a child! ...another lie you are adding to the many lies of the RCC.
**

much suffering children have and continue to have under priests who USE their authority to sexually gratify themselves with children REWARDED by transfers around to other churches to escape

those who worship and serve rcc DEFEND priests calling events LIES no less

to be in bondage to men of rcc and god of this world brainwashed believing lies of their religious system so very unconcerned about the REAL lives of children who were destroyed by their religious leaders

evident their religious system is more precious then Christ or God
---Rhonda on 9/5/08


Nicole, If he is instructed by the Holy Spirit, why was he not informed of all the abuses? What kind of Church is he running? And if he knew about the abuses which is what I believe could not get by him, why didn't he do anything? No one did. This happened for many years but now lately coming out. You seem to take this very lightly as if it doesn't mean nothing. All through the ages abuses in the thousands have happened and everyone knew. No one did nothing. I don't think he is God, I don't think he even believes in the doctrines of the Gospel, but believes in the doctrines of the RCC in whom he gives his oath to, and he will never go against her or speak against another pope or bishop who has done great harm human life.
---Mark_V. on 9/5/08


MarkV,you have been living in Narnia too long. "Why didn't the Holy SEE know about the abuses?" What?

You act as if the Pope is a God! He isn't all knowing.
He depends on the Holy Spirit.
He must be obedient.

But this notion of abandment is WRONG.
Even Jesus told the Jewish people follow the leaders placed by God. EVEN THE BAD ONES Matthew 23:1-3
"Therefore, do and observe all things whatsoever THEY TELL YOU, but do not follow their example,"

MarkV you are asking the opposite of Jesus!

Note that word 'whatsoever, or whatever' used by Jesus again.
Jesus gave the same word of Authority of the chair of Moses to Peter.
That why we say Whoever sits on the Chair of Peter has the keys.
---Nicole on 9/5/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Lead Generation


MarkV, lets get something straight. I never have not answered your questions. It is U who choose which question you wish to answer.
If the Moderator chooses not to post my response, what can I do?
I reposted my answer in hopes another Moderator will be fair and post it to you.

The Holy Spirit speaks to everyone.
But the Pope has the key with the Authority given to him by Jesus.
No Pope allowed any molestations.
So God isn't allowing any molestation through a Pope. What is wrong with you?
Are U saying God would allowed child rape?
Do you truly need to know the answer?
What type of god do U have?
My God would never allow a rape of a child!

This is another lie you are adding to the many lies of the RCC.
---Nicole on 9/5/08


Samuel, do you not realized how many rules and tradition is followed?
There are many people claiming to be Pope today. But, does anyone believe them? No. Because we know the Pope is Benedict XVI, even the Media.

First the present Pope must be dead, before others can start claiming to be the true Pope.
2nd in 2005, didn't you noticed that the Cardinals had to arrive before the vote started. They were LOCKED INSIDE.
They could not come out until the next Pope is elected. The black smoke (vote not good)
and white smoke(a Pope is electioned) is used for the public.
All Cardinals are in agreement when the New Pope is announced.

I am confused in your question. How do you think a confusion can come from on who is the Pope?
---Nicole on 9/5/08


Benedict IX (reigned 1032 - 1045 AD)
"At the death of Pope John XIX, his brother Alberic decided to keep the papacy in the family by having his young son Theophylactus elected. Unqualified by his youth, his upbringing, and his depravity.
Also John XII if memory serves me.--Samuel

Are you saying he is the one who rape children? What are you saying?

Where is the evidence of a Pope raping children?
Please answer. You brought it up not me.
It isn't nice to plant a notion and refusing to back it up with data.
---Nicole on 9/5/08


Does anyone recall the parable of the "wheat and the tares"? Or more importantly, do you know the lesson?
---Frank on 9/5/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Mortgages


Samuel, why did you take that low shot?
The RCC NEVER STATES nonCatholics are going to hell, only Protestants.
Read the Catechism. Why must you all change our words?

I have always stated that noncatholics are going to Heaven.
Those who follow these anti-popes are mistaken. Why would they go to hell if Protestant don't go to hell? At least they believe in a Jesus' Words about a Pope. They just got the wrong person.

RCC states nonCatholics go to Heaven because of Baptism as Jesus states in Mark 16:16.
What we states is that Salvation comes from Jesus through the Graces given to the RCC to all.

By the way, it's Protestants who claim Catholics are going to Heaven unless we convert.
Script is flipped.
---Nicole on 9/5/08


Mark~
There are many other pastors in other Christian churches that have been convicted of child molestation. Not just the Catholic church.
I have investigated this and have found it is spread across the board of Christian churches.

The Catholic church is continuing it's duty to sustain the Catholic community against such molestations. Finger printing~ classes ~ policies in effect to prevent such horrible things in the future.

When speaking of molestations, speak of all the pastors not just the priests, please.
---paul on 9/5/08


Samuel:-You are taking a page from Marks Book .Are you also a vigilante?I am sure you have read my Post so I shall not expound.FYI The fact that these molestations are prevalent among all of Christendom as also non believers ,but you make it a point to magnify one denomination,hence "Cast the log from your eye before seeing the spec in your neighbours eye"This is Gospel you attack.Yes millions are dying by Abortion starvation,lack of water,medication divert your venom in this area and Let God do His, which is condemnation.would you gracefully agree.? or fall under the same axe of condemnation, which is what you are seeking.MIMA to NOTE.
---MIC on 9/5/08


Nicole, you didn't answer my questions because you have no answer for them. Why do you avoid answering? Does God only talk to the Pope about His word, and permits molestations of children? If the pope is the speaker for the family of Christ, and the Holy Spirit speaks to him only, why doesn't he know what is going on? And if he knew which in this cases he had to know, why didn't he stop it? Why did he permit the molesters to continue to molest other children? And if he didn't know as you said, doesn't that tell you that he is not running a True Church? Why don't you answer the questions?
---Mark_V. on 9/5/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Personal Loans


Benedict IX (reigned 1032 - 1045 AD)
"At the death of Pope John XIX, his brother Alberic decided to keep the papacy in the family by having his young son Theophylactus elected. Unqualified by his youth, his upbringing, and his depravity.
Also John XII if memory serves me.

Yes the Pope is crowned with three crowns and believe he is like a king that is true.

But the early church councils and the Bible says to be a representivie of GOD a person must be 1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach, also Titus 1:7 So these and other popes were false bishops. false popes. So all they did was false.
---Samuel on 9/5/08


How about when the Pope was a child molestor was that okay with GOD?--Samuel

I never heard of any Pope being a child molestor. How about a name?

What's with a child molestor being okay with God? Are you suggesting that a Pope can rape a child because he is in charge?

If God punished David for killing Bathsheba's husband, why would He be 'okay' with a child molestor?

Remember, He anointed David. God hand picked David! God stayed with David through his sin. God keeps His promises.
But He didn't let one sin go unpunished.

If God didn't take David off his throne for murder, why would He destroy His Church over one evil Pope?
No He will deal with that Pope.

Please give me a name of this so call Pope.
---Nicole on 9/5/08


Do you think I enjoy it when Hollywood does scenes where Christ is defeated by Satan in a Catholic church? They make a mockery of Christ through the knowledge they all have of the RCC and their rituals. It touches every single Christian outside the RCC. It effects Christianity as a whole.--MarkV

Be still and know God is God.
Supreme of the Nation, Supreme of the Earth.

Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you(falsey) because of me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in Heaven. Thus they persecuted the prophets who were before you. Matthew 5:11-12

Be happy and share in the Blessings.

Start to worry when the Media is on our side.
---Nicole on 9/5/08


Samuel Mark :- Hollywood is NOT Christ's Court or His Judgement seat. This prophecy is yet to be fulfilled, meanwhile, He does not ask us to usurp His AUTHORITY "VENGENCE IS MINE He says"If you are so anxious to be a Judge study and get into the Judicial system, where you will be more affective.Here you are fighting Your God and do not know it.
---MIC on 9/4/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Auto Insurance


YOur point is correct. Nicole.

But what would you have done when there were three duly elected popes and each one was saying the others were false? How would you have decided which one to follow? What about those people who followed the antipopes, are they all burning in hell because they did not choose the correct one?

How about when the Pope was a child molestor was that okay with GOD?
---Samuel on 9/3/08


Nicole, you don't get my point. When all of you Catholics speak and say, my church is the true church, evidence is given that it cannot be. Would God's allow His Church to continue in this molestations against children? If the Holy Spirit is working in the Pope why didn't He do anything before? What about the other popes before the one that is there now? Why didn't they do anything? The answer is simple. If they had, everyone would have found out. Bad for the Catholic Church. But sooner or later it came out and more and more came forward. No one else claims their denomination is the true Church. They all answer that only those born of the Spirit make up the true Church.
---Mark_V. on 9/3/08


Nicole, I get no pleasure in writing what I do. I would hope it sinks in your mind. You say the Holy See didn't know, if the Holy See is been run by the Holy Spirit as all of you claim, how could He not know? Does God only speak to him about the Word? And that God wants this other things to go on? And if the Holy See didn't know what was happening, doesn't that tell you what happens throughout the RCC he doesn't know so cannot be running a true Church?
Do you think I enjoy it when Hollywood does scenes where Christ is defeated by Satan in a Catholic church? They make a mockery of Christ through the knowledge they all have of the RCC and their rituals. It touches every single Christian outside the RCC. It effects Christianity as a whole.
---Mark_V. on 9/3/08


No Nicole you are not stupid, you are blinded and not your own doing, no one can choose the situation they were born into, but people with an inquiring, concerned, mind will be more open to plain truths.
---mima on 9/3/08


Read These Insightful Articles About Holidays


Mark_V, yes, some RCC's Bishops in the US moved these horrible Priests.
Benedict XVI apologized multiple times.

There were not 1000's of children, less than 100. But, 1 is too many.

I still defend the RCC. You act as the HOLY SEE knew of these Priests being moved around. They didn't!
The Bishop is the head of the diocese, not the Pope. The Bishop answers to the Pope.

So, because of some Bishops and Priests sins, I have to punish myself, and my family and leave the Church?

Does that sound logical to you?
I DIDN'T SIN!
So, why do I have to be punished and excommunicate myself?

MarkV, I'm not stupid!
---Nicole on 9/2/08


Nicole, did not the RCC bishops hide the child molesters and move them from place to place? Did they not allow them to continue for many years? Do you think they would tell your church members from where you are going to now, that a child molester was preaching at your church and to not allow your kids to stay after mass and join him in prayer because he was a molester? Of course they would not tell you. You as well as many others would be setting your own children to those vultures.
What would you say then? Would you still defend the RCC and their methods? I know you wouldn't because it would effect your family. So what about all the people they hurt? What about the thousands of children who have to live with that trama?
---Mark_V. on 9/2/08


What do you think of this statement made by David Stewart."I once witnessed to a Catholic gentleman, who after claiming to trust Christ as his personal Savior, said he could never forsake the damnable teachings of the Catholic Church. Let me make clear my friend, that no one who trusts in the Catholic Church, the keeping of the sacraments, the confessional booth, the praying of the Rosary, or good works (self-righteousness) will ever go to Heaven. The whole purpose for Christ paying for our sins was because we could not save ourselves. We are utterly helpless to save ourselves, or even to assist in any way." Comments
---mima on 9/1/08

Comments, he sounds like a anti-catholic!
---Ruben on 9/2/08


Copyright© 1996-2015 ChristiaNet®. All Rights Reserved.