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Abuses Jesus Took To Cross

Isa 53:5 He was wounded for our transgressions, bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; etc.,

If one was to do a study on all of the abuses Jesus took upon Himself for our sake before, during and after He went to the cross, what would they be?

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donna ,the iniquities of us all. iniquities is unrightiousness,or sinful acts,sinful choices.anything that is against Gods word,anything unholy, all sin ALL.
---tom2 on 10/12/07


Jesus became totally weak on that hill, it drained Him of all His strength. This is a truely heart wrenching step in His passion cause His weakness is tested and pushed to the outer extreme. Anyone who has exerted all their energy and then been pushed to fight more knows how traumtic this can be
---johnlovesginalyn on 3/15/07


A key one is also when He walked up the hill with the cross.
I believe the Sampson story gives us insight to this one. After Sampson killed a thousand men with the jaw of an animal it is written that he had no more spirit left in him, he was totally exausted.
This is the same with Jesus, He needed Simeon to carry it after He fell three times. This strong man had no more power in his fresh to withstand the burden of the cross.
---johnlovesginalyn on 3/15/07


** Josef, you have just encountered the "Jack Attack". Carry on.**

Don't worry, Terrier. I'm well aware that despite their protestations, people here don't recognize the truth when told to them, and don't want it anyway.
---Jack on 2/18/07


There is never an excuse for Men with power in their hands, to abuse that power. So much of this Evil goes undetected.One day, noone will be safe. [What a sad pass when the best friend that this world has, has to beware of Man].
---catherine on 2/18/07




Josef, you have just encountered the "Jack Attack". Carry on.
---Terrier on 2/18/07


"Speculation is a dangerous thing to base doctrine on."
Dangerous for whom? What difference does it make how many lashes He took the purpose remains the same. Of that I am assured. Are you?

I have never advocated a conformity to my belief towards any one. I simply share what I have been given to embrace. What ever a person believes to be true for that person is truth. Who am I to argues it, I am no ones teacher & make no claim of infallibility.
---Josef on 2/17/07


**As you quoted & based on what I read some where, the maximum number of lashes allow by law, whether jewish or roman I am unsure, was 39 for fear of death. **

Jewish law limited lashes to 40. One less was given to make sure the number was not exceeded accidentally.

Speculation is a dangerous thing to base doctrine on.
---Jack on 2/17/07


You are correct Jack, the 39 stripes is speculatory. My speculation is based on some things I have read. As you quoted & based on what I read some where, the maximum number of lashes allow by law, whether jewish or roman I am unsure, was 39 for fear of death. I have also read that every known disease can be traced back to 1 of 39 root causes. Given that, it seemed logical to me that He would have received the maximum due to the Jews vindictiveness & the Fathers grace for mankind.
---Josef on 2/16/07


** 4. With the 39 lashes: Jesus took upon Himself the causes of every sickness & disease that afflicts man, that we may be made whole by the faith that embraces "By His stripes we were healed".**

While Jewish law forbade more than 39 lashes, the Romans were not bound to this. The number of lashes is nowhere in the Bible.
---Jack on 2/16/07




2. The stripping of the garments: Gave example of His enduring disesteem & shame, that we may "consider Him that endured such contradictions against Himself, Lest we be wearied and faint in Our own minds". 3. Also as our example, He refused to accept the vinegar mixed with gall that would have eased His pain, but rather endured it knowing He would thru it all experience the joy that was set before Him, of being resurrected & seated on the Fathers throne. Cont..
---Josef on 2/16/07


Donna I am looking forward to the enlightenment you have been given concerning this. Since there are no other attempts to answer, I will share mine.

First & most importantly all of the following were fulfillments of prophesy & documents that Jesus was/is in fact The Messiah.

1. The crown of thorns: Mocked His kingship. By that attack the anxiety, mental stress & anguish that takes peace of mind from man was laid upon Him. Cont...
---Josef on 2/16/07


Summation "What work/abuses has satan put on children, adults that Jesus took upon Himself BEFORE he went to the cross?"

Pride, arrogance, stubbornness, unforgiveness, fear, shame, quilt, discouragement, rejection, betrayal, sickness & death of man. To free the believer from them all.
---Josef on 2/16/07


...Helps us to realize that even in the closes relationships there is a place within the unrenewed mind of man that is open to demonic tendencies & inclinations. Among them are disloyalty & betrayal, none of us are immune to them or the painful & embarrassing consequences surrounding them. However thru it all the Fathers plan for our lives is made manifest. "There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death" Prov. 14:12
---Josef on 2/16/07


4. With the 39 lashes: Jesus took upon Himself the causes of every sickness & disease that afflicts man, that we may be made whole by the faith that embraces "By His stripes we were healed". 5. The mockery He endured shows man's ignorance & lack of understanding concerning His deity & exemplified His forgiveness. 6. Peter's denial: Demonstrated man's innate fear, weakness & uncertainty & the Fathers willingness to understand, reassure & strengthen us. 7. Judas's betrayal:.. Cont..
---Josef on 2/16/07


**YOU ASKED: Why does each "abuse" have to have a special relationship to anything at all?**

YOu're right. I don't understand the question at all.

Does the questioner think that Jesus bled from His right hand for one thing, from His left hand for another, and from His side for something else, and so on?
---Jack on 2/16/07


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** Jack - One drop of His blood shed in obedience to the Father (which happened at the circumcision) would suffice to save the entire human race, don't you think?
Where is the scripture reference that says the shed blood happened at the circumcision?**

And just what do you think flows from such sensitive tissue when it is cut? Pearls and rubies?
---Jack on 2/16/07


** Jack - What circumcision are you talking about?**

Helen, does your Bible just not have the Gospel according St. Luke, or are its opening chapters simply missing?

Read Luke 2.
---Jack on 2/15/07


Jack - here we go again.

YOU ASKED: Why does each "abuse" have to have a special relationship to anything at all? Because He took upon Himself physical, sexual, mental and all the abuses man suffers so that "By His Stripes we are healed." Once again, you criticize the question because you don't know the answer. I posted this to pass on the revelation of the abuses He suffered for us so that we wouldn't have to suffer them anylonger.
---donna6598 on 2/15/07


Jack - One drop of His blood shed in obedience to the Father (which happened at the circumcision) would suffice to save the entire human race, don't you think?
Where is the scripture reference that says the shed blood happened at the circumcision?
Why don't you answer the question at hand instead of twisting the facts to put your spin on things?
---donna6598 on 2/15/07


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Jack, as you say 1 drop may be sufficient, however, I believe everything that Christ did, or was done to Him and recorded has significance, otherwise it wouldn't be in the God inspired Word. Many of these abuses were told in more then 1 gospel, emphasizing their import.
---Christina on 2/15/07


Jack - What circumcision are you talking about? What has circumcision got to do with Jesus shedding His Blood?
---Helen_5378 on 2/15/07


** I'll name the abuses, you can say what abuse it's related to:**

Why does each "abuse" have to have a special relationship to anything at all?

One drop of His blood shed in obedience to the Father (which happened at the circumcision) would suffice to save the entire human race, don't you think?
---Jack on 2/14/07


I'll name the abuses, you can say what abuse it's related to:

The crown of thorns
The stripping of the garments
Giving Jesus vinegar when he asked for a drink
The 39 lashes
The mockery he endured from the Romans
Peter's denial
Judas's betrayal
---donna6598 on 2/13/07


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He is Risen.

"What kind of conversation is this that you have with one another as you walk and are sad?"

"What things?" (they said, 'how the rulers delivered Him to be condemned to death, and crucified Him.)

"Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?"

"Why are you troubled?"

"Peace to you".

He is Risen.
---Cindy on 2/12/07


tom2, that was a great answer, but I was referring to the specific abuses Jesus took upon Himself for our sake. "For this purpose was the Son of God manifest, to DESTROY the work of the evil one." What work/abuses has satan put on children? adults? that Jesus took upon Himself BEFORE he went to the cross.
---donna6598 on 2/12/07


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