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Is Surrogacy Biblical

Due to complications after having my youngest son (from my previous marriage), I can no longer have children. My husband and I have been considering surrogacy but are worried of the reaction of our friends at church. Is surrogacy frowned upon by God?

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 ---Dorinda on 2/20/07
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The Bible method is that Sarah put into her husbands arms her maidservant Hagar. Rachel put into her husbands arms Bilhah, and Leah put into her her husband's arms her maidservant Zilpah and was glad at it. Of course, no one practices Bible methods anymore. Instead we treat these as felon. Yet remember that Sarah, Rebekah, Rachel and Elizabeth were all barren and that the Lord later favored them. Doctors like to experiment. They will destroy one favoring another. Better to rely on God by natural methods not involving sin.
---born on 2/8/13


Dorinda,

I realize this question is old, but I was reading all the comments you have received and I wanted to encourage you. I won't pretend to have the answers to what you're going through, but I know first hand how hard infertility is. Many of the comments below have been rather vicious and frankly not very Christ-like. People should not use posting a Scripture verse as a free pass for name-calling and cruelty. I commend you for asking the question because it means that you truly desire to do right and not just rush into an easy decision. Whatever you and your husband decide/have decided I will pray for both of you.
---JustMe on 2/7/13


"True there is no approval. Which you take as approval."
Trav on 11/15/11
Trav, going from ignorant to ridiculous?
Actually are you family with anyone here on CN?
Should you not be spending your time with your kin? ---Nana on 11/16/11

Whoooeee girl. Believe I hit a donated organ or seen the blood.
1. You promote organ transplant because it is not in scripture. So no mention or approval...is authorization for u. Organs cost money. Blood sells for ?? these days. Blood money.
2. Yes I recognize some as family/children of Christ here. But, understand most sheep never post.
3. I'm looking for those lost Christ looked for. You don't sign or mark as one of them scripturally....yet.
Matt 15:24.
---Trav on 11/16/11


"True there is no approval. Which you take as approval."
Trav on 11/15/11

Trav, going from ignorant to ridiculous?
Harp on yourself with your witnesses or lack thereof and for
starters get of the computer and the internet.

Your use of the internet with "no approval" which "you take as approval"
goes against what you blabber about.

"Not married or family to you or them."
Actually are you family with anyone here on CN? Should you not be spending
your time with your kin? Seems that you need to get checked by your tribal
doctor.
Maybe he prescribes, "A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons."
---Nana on 11/16/11




Well Trav, we can't find witnesses and scriptural aproval for organ transplants like say the heart, kidney, etc.
Are you one of those christian neanderthals that would rather die ..than allow an organ transplant or transfussion?
---Nana on 11/11/11

True there is no approval. Which you take as approval. How bold you are...or scared.
Nothing you won't do to cling to this short life you have remaining is what you are saying. Telling.

I might accept blood from my immediate neanderthal family. I won't accept your's or theirs.
Not married or family to you or them.
Sell your blood to some other stranger. Put your seed in a strangers field. Grow a strangers seed. Foolish woman. Blood money. Seed money.
---Trav on 11/15/11


"Apply a few scriptural witnesses with some contexual witnessing sense and you might have something.

Scripturally approved Surrogates would not be one of them.

Adoption, is."
---Trav on 11/11/11

Well Trav, we can't find witnesses and scriptural aproval for organ transplants like say the heart, kidney, etc.
Are you one of those christian neanderthals that would rather die or let their loved ones die rather than allow an organ transplant or transfussion?

Surrogate:
: to put in the place of another:
a: to appoint as successor, deputy, or substitute for oneself
b: substitute
---Nana on 11/11/11


Trav,
Nothing replaces good and just common sense, a true gift/blessing to use or 'misuse'. I personally have no issue with surrogacy,

I personally have no issue with adoption either.
---Nana on 11/9/11

Well, good ole common sense is less common and is the garden of mens doctrines/denom's we have now. TV preachers make bundle off lack of any spiritual sense or witnesses.

Apply a few scriptural witnesses with some contexual witnessing sense and you might have something.

Scripturally approved Surrogates would not be one of them.

Adoption, is.
---Trav on 11/11/11


Woe unto you who call evil good and Good evil......

God forbid.. don't you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.

No one else's sperm belongs in a woman's body except that of her own husband....

Just as dolly the sheep was put together to prove man could act as God, so people use the same evil procedure for vain glory and self gratification.... It is Evil...

Go adopt nothing wrong with that...

---Carla on 11/11/11


Trav,
Nothing replaces good and just common sense, a true gift/blessing to use or 'misuse'. I personally have no issue with surrogacy, Christ made us all of one blood in Spirit.
1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
I personally have no issue with adoption either.
---Nana on 11/9/11




There is a lot of "unbiblical" these days, aspirin, cars, planes, microwave ovens.
---Nana on 11/2/11

These all have been blessings. To use or misuse.
Promised by GOD or we wouldn't have them.
8Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

9Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.

10And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee.
---Trav on 11/9/11


Dorinda, why would people at your church even know you cannot have children? I can't imagine discussing that with friends at your church. I am not judging, just wondering.
---shira4368 on 11/2/11


There is a lot of "unbiblical" these days, aspirin, cars, planes, microwave ovens.
---Nana on 11/2/11


Carla:

Abraham and Sarah's act had problems on two levels:
1) God promised Abraham a son. Abraham and Sarah didn't wait, and jumped the gun, not trusting God.
2) God did deliver, so they now had two children, only one of which was the son of promise - causing constant friction.

This situation is different in both of these ways:
1) God didn't step down from heaven to promise Dorinda children, so there is no gun for her to jump.
2) Natural and surrogate children can grow up harmoniously, as long as one isn't treated as a favorite over another.
---StrongAxe on 11/1/11


If this act of Sarah with Abraham divided a nation. Your selfish act will divide you away from God.

Not having your own child yes is an issue but loving and having an unwanted baby is the same as having your own.

Technically you are committing a wrong act that is both controversial and unbiblical.

But non the less you will go through it, so why ask?
---Carla on 11/1/11


francis:

I have no idea. They didn't mention the subject at all. As such, it's hard to be dogmatic about what they thought about the subject.
---StrongAxe on 10/31/11


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StrongAxe on 10/30/11
Honestly, I am just kidding about MUST DO IT THE BILICAL WAY.
---francis on 10/31/11


StrongAxe on 10/30/
Did the apostles have another pattern for surrogacy?
---francis on 10/31/11


Trav:

I was not chastising anyone. I was not pointing out that adopting orphans was a bad thing (in fact, I said the opposite). I was merely pointing out that the apostles said visit, but did not explicitly mention adoption, and that adoption was not mentioned in the blog topic either. That is all.
---StrongAxe on 10/31/11


Trav: James is speaking about visiting orphans, not about adopting them.
---StrongAxe on 10/30/11

Notable that you chastise me, in specific's of just visiting, obeying to the letter on James.
Then chastise Francis that the Apostles examples, are to not do exactly as they say!!
Would the fatherless rather a have visit than a home.
Fatherless Nth House Lost Sheep Israel in this same situ wanted adoption.
Romans 9:4
Who are Israelites, to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises,
Galatians 4:5
To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Note:(Redeem them that were under law)
---Trav on 10/31/11


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Trav:

While adopting orphans is a good thing (and I speak from experience, having been one myself), James is speaking about visiting orphans, not about adopting them. This also does not address the blog question - i.e. whether or not surrogacy is biblical or not.


francis:

Where does the Bible say that the only way to do things biblically is to follow biblical patterns exactly? There are many examples where the Apostles did things similar to what Jesus did, but did not follow his examples or instructions exactly.
---StrongAxe on 10/30/11


My husband and I have been considering surrogacy but are worried of the reaction of our friends at church. Is surrogacy frowned upon by God?----Blog Question

Consider the known instead of the gambling with unknown. Orphans.

James 1:27
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
---Trav on 10/30/11


Genesis 16:1 Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name [was] Hagar.
Genesis 16:3 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
Genesis 16:4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived:
Genesis 30:4 And she gave him Bilhah her handmaid to wife: and Jacob went in unto her. Genesis 30:5 And Bilhah conceived, and bare Jacob a son.
Genesis 30:9 When Leah saw that she had left bearing, she took Zilpah her maid, and gave her Jacob to wife.
Genesis 30:10 And Zilpah Leah's maid bare Jacob a son.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS BIBLICALLY FOLLOW THE PATTERN EXACTLY.
---francis on 10/28/11


"'If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no sons, the widow of the dead man shall not be married to a stranger outside the family, her husband's brother shall go in to her, take her as his wife, and perform the duty of the husband's brother to her. And it shall be that the firstborn son which she bears will succeed to the name of his dead brother, that his name may not be blotted out of Israel.'" (Deuteronomy 25:5-6)

It doesn't say if the guy can be already married, but this is being sort of a surrogate husband.
---Bill_willa6989 on 10/29/11


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Biblical / scriptural term for surrogacy is: concubine
---Francis on 10/28/11


Carla3939:

Matthew 19:8, 1 Corinthians 6:12, and 1 Corinthians 10:21 refer to doing bad things, but none of these say anything about surrogacy.

If you say "violating God's law is bad", you can only deduce "surrogacy is bad" if you can also say "surrogacy is violating God's law", which you don't have a reference for (and you can't, since scripture in no ways forbids it).

In fact, Abraham and Jacob both used surrogates when their wives were not fertile, and God never condemned them for this. While it's true that Abraham was at fault for not trusting God's timing, this was not a fault of the concept of surrogacy itself.
---StrongAxe on 10/28/11


I am also in a similar state as yours. Too add my story, docs have told that getting pregnant is like taking the biggest risk on my life more so betting on it. I want to have a baby now, but my husband says its biblically wrong to go even for gestational surrogacy, where in the baby will be 100 percent biologically ours.

So biblically speaking women like us, can never have our own children? What wrong have we done to be forbidden from becoming mothers? will we ever get to see our biological progeny? What is the use of living such a miserable empty life? Speaking biblically, what is the remedy for women like us ?
---Joan_Jay on 10/28/11


Carla3939:

Can you find a single scripture that says that surrogacy is forbidden?

On the other hand, there are several examples of surrogacy in the old testament - whenever their wives did not concieve, several patriarchs resorted to the use of surroages. In particular, Abraham and Hagar, Jacob and Bilhah, Jacob and Zilpah. While one might argue that Abraham's fathering of Ishmael resulted in a lot of strife, nowhere was the practice forbidden, one could also argue that Jacob and Esau had a lot of strife between them, but having twins isn't forbidden either.
---StrongAxe on 10/23/09


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Um, one thing:
God can use doctors to heal people, even though He could speak a word and heal them Himself. People go to mechanics to get their cars fixed, even though God, with whom nothing is impossible, could fix them. So why can't He use someone else to provide a child for a childless couple? I think to say that He wouldn't is foolish unless you have spoken with Him about it. PS. I'm a preacher's wife, not a heathen.
---April on 10/21/09


Phl 4:6
Be careful for nothing, but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.



Is your faith so weak that you cannot accept it if God is not willing. We are to say God willing I will go here or there, why are Christian people perverting the patience of prayer and turning to the WORLD?

There are childless women because men never chose them to be a wife, will they then just ask someone to donate sperm to artificially inseminate themselves because they want a child? GOD FORBID

Where on earth do you draw the line with these things?
---Carla3939 on 2/23/09


Wow. I cannot understand you people that think the loving act of having a baby for someone who can't is "of the devil" or evil in some way, explain it if you will--thank you in advance. :)
---Mary on 2/22/09


Surrogacy is of the devil,

and out of disobedience christians behave as though prayer/fasting is the last thing to do, devilling into worldly practices is now somehow right placing your hope in the hands of the world.

Mat 19:8
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

1Cr 6:12
All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.


1Cr 10:21
Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
---Carla3939 on 2/21/09


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Well, there are many forms of surrogate motherhood, but consider this:

Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar had a "surrogate mother agreement" that produced Ishmael, and just look at all the trouble this has caused through the centuries and still does today.
---Jack on 10/7/08


Look at the patriarchs of the Old Testament.

Both Abraham and Jacob used surrogacy when their wives did not concieve. Even though the results were not always the best, the fact remains that there is not a single PROCEDURAL criticism of the practice in the scripture.

With Sarah and Hagar, it was friction between "surrogate" child and a subsequent "natural" child. This is only an issue if parents treat such a child differently than they treat a naturally-born child.
---StrongAxe on 11/9/07


Dorinda-I did invetro-fertilization, what exactly is surrogacy? Is that when you implant an embryo into another woman's womb and she carries the baby for you? I can only share with you what Father God spoke to me after I did the invetro process with my husband. I will share with you privately. You can contact me here at donna6598.
---donna6598 on 11/8/07


Fornication or Adultery if the partner has re-married, since he would have had to commit Adultery if he married she would have had to file for a divorce using the Adultery for the divorce. (previous Marriage) If not then not knowing what the bible say's on divorce and re-marrying is a direct consequence of sin. Sin brings about lack of knowledge, lack of knowledge you do what? Perish!
---Carla5754 on 2/22/07


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Thanks Daniel I did mean Versa instead of Via :)
---Carla5754 on 2/22/07


Oh, Dorinda, I just thought of something I never have before, since this is one of the furthest things from my mind, BUT IF you truly believe life starts with conception, I've heard many of these labs MAY insist on doing MULTIPLE 'in vitro' fertilizations; to ensure 'viable product' and DESTROY what you don't want later. Is that morally right, if true? Obviously, 1000s-year old Scriptures never comment on babies outside a mother's womb though.
---danie9374 on 2/22/07


I'm sure carla meant "vs." (versus; not 'Via' as she wrote), and I'd also add, adoption is certainly something to consider. Ask yourself if that might not be God's will for you, if you can no longer carry a child of your own. MAKE sure your husband is completely a part of whatever decision is made (really, not just 'going along' so to speak). I think adopted kids need to know THEY can really be loved by someone too.
---danie9374 on 2/21/07


** The crucial part of your question lies with whether you were divorced and re-married through Adultery?**

How is one remarried through adultery?
---Jack on 2/21/07


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The crucial part of your question lies with whether you were divorced and re-married through Adultery? Having said that if it did not then I guess your understanding of Biblical standards will dictate your position on surrogacy Via Adoption of a mother/fatherless child.
---Carla5754 on 2/21/07


If the child who would be the result of this surrogacy were to be biologically yours and your husband's and you would be asking another woman to 'carry' YOUR child for 9 months it would be totally different from your husband's sperm fertilizing another woman's egg and then being carried by someone else. If this is what you have in mind give great thought as to whether you could bring up your husband's and someone else's child as your own.
---m.p.a. on 2/21/07


Dorinda, No matter how good the intentions of the other woman may be, UNLESS she's POSSIBLY your own believing sister or daughter, someone who'd be able to spend almost as much time with that child in the future as you intend to (AND EVEN THEN I'm not necessarily advising it's OK), such a course of actions can end up being disasterous for all if that lady makes a claim on the baby! TODAY, we know that lawyers can turn things upside down no matter what a contract says! Is she even a Believer?
---danie9374 on 2/21/07


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