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Do Angels Give New Scriptures

I have this friend who happens to be mormon and my dilemma is that I have hit a place where I can't continue to dispute the arguments he presents unless I have a verse in the bible that disputes the fact that God does not speak to us through angels anymore. Do you know of any verses that will help?

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Hebrews 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds
---michael_e on 1/2/13


Yes, angels do give new scripture ( see Daniel, revelation, and many of the prophets)

What Angels do not give, are scriptures contrary to what has already been established, ESPECIALLY scripture that contradict the testimony of Jesus,for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. and the already established prophecies and laws.
---francis on 1/1/13


Don't use the Bible to argue Mormonism, as according to the LDS, the Bible is imperfect, while as the Book of Mormon is perfect.

Therefore, find contradictions within Mormonism, ie how it contradicts itself.

Look in, for example, the mormon Book of Alma for "One God" references, then look in the PoGP and D & C for references to many gods.

Dismantle with-
in, not without.
---Anonymous on 1/1/13


The canon of scripture is closed. NO books can be added to the Bible. The bible is the Judge of all future words that say they are from GOD. GOD will not contridict himself.

Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

Num 23:19 God [is] not a man, that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
---Samuel on 5/30/08


Jules::Politics and Religion are two subjects one should never get into unless one is fully informed.While Angels are messengers used by God on occassion they make the declaration as in Lk1,26God left the Holy spirit to guide His church acts11:8and 2:2.moreover we are told whom to fear Matt10:28
---Emcee on 5/29/08




Do angels give new scrpture? We are warned not to add or take away what is written, therefore scrpture as it is written is all we need so I'll say no. I would also recommend to be aware of prophets. Jesus fulfilled all that was prophesied of himself, and before his crusifiction gave additional prophesy of himself to come in the future. Then John capped it all with the prophesy of Revelation. What is written is all we need.
---Ken on 5/29/08


When we receive the Holy Spirit, He can witness to us directly. Angels are no longer necessary. Angel worship is a bad thing. However we can believe and take comfort from the fact that angels exist and do protect us. Messages are Words of Knowledge that come to us awake and asleep.
---frances008 on 5/29/08


1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds,Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:Being made so much better than the angels, .....
---kathr4453 on 5/29/08


Well...I'm sure this isn't the answer you wanted...but I dont doubt God could and does speak to us still through angels, the word itself means "messenger". BUT...the canon is closed, God has given us what is sufficient until the end of time in His Bible. Remember Revelation 22:18-19.
---Todd1 on 5/22/08


Jules
As far as messages are concerned, it is the Holy Spirit that comforts & keeps us, that are in Christ, in remembers of the word of God. But we are also told to consider strangers, for we might be entertaining angles. We who have the Holy Spirit dwelling within us should be listening to the Spirit and have no need to have a message sent to us by an angel. All that do not have the H.Spirit or are not listening to the Spirit are the ones more likely to be visited by an angel with a message for them.
---ShawnM.T on 5/22/08




Galatians 3:8But though we, OR AN ANGEL from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
---kathr4453 on 2/23/07


I didn't realize Dave was a Morman. And Elder, I agree with your statement.
---Rebecca_D on 2/22/07


Rebecca, Heb 13:1&2. Love is to continue, then we are warned about how to treat others.
We are to help strangers (entertain). Sometimes we have done that and it was really an angel. Notice the word "Unawares."
If anyone was aware that they were entertaining an angel they would act differently.
This is one place where the Bible says if someone saw an angel they wouldn't know it if they did.
To say anything else is adding to the Word again.
---Elder on 2/22/07


Rebecca...This question was posted so that Mormons could get their false doctrine on another blog. Dave is a Mormon.
---Susie on 2/22/07


Elder: do you not realize that God told us not to forget to entertain strangers that it could be an angel? Angels are messangers from God. What scriptures are you referring to that testifies by saying that it wasn't from God?
---Rebecca_D on 2/21/07


Dave, i really wish i knew what you were talking about, if angels wont shake your hand...didnt abraham entertain angels try and get them food, thought they were real people at first...if that can happen why cant it happen now??, that would mean we can shake their hand wouldnt it???, mabye i'm missing part of the story
---mark on 2/21/07


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greetings.If someone has yet to experience the rewards of a visitation from those just beyond our vision then it is very difficult to pass the experience on to one who has not.How can one tell another it is not true?Over the years we see pictures of angels with wings.It is understood that angels do not have bird like limbs to fly.They are natural frequent flyers if they never had them.But ,what are the limbs on angels that man has seen to call feathers on angels? Many fear the good they do.
---earl on 2/21/07


I get so tired of hearing people say "nothing is impossible with God" trying to explain their extrabiblical experience.
Someday they learn God gave Scripture and enough of it to know all we need to know.
God binds Himself to His Written Word and does not go outside of what He has set.
Evelyn any "angel" that spoke to you was not from God and Scripture testifies to that. Many like you will accept these things and reject the Living Word of God.
---Elder on 2/21/07


Dave, "ask them to shake your hand if they say No, you know they are an angel." Where do you get that from?
Your statement of John shows how far off you are. John saw death he just never tasted death. His body is dead but John is alive and he is not walking this earth.
I don't know if you need help or medication.
---Elder on 2/21/07


Jules, I would read Hebrews over and over until the Book is permanently branded on your heart and mind and soul. Everything is in there to witness to Mormons as well as all cults.
The beginning will tell you that TODAY God has spoken to us through His Son, who by the way is NOT Satans brother, also clearly noted in Hebrews.
Hope that helps.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/07


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THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE BLOGS----STARTED BY MORMONS---TO GET THEIR BELIEFS POSTED ON THIS WEBSITE!!!!!!
---Susie on 2/21/07


I do believe God uses his Angels to speak to us. I have my own experience of seeing angels speaking to me a message from God. Remember that nothing is impossible with God. You will find aswers in these scriptures: 2 Peter 3:4, Matthew 28:2, 1 Corinthians 13:1, Daniel 6:22 hope this helps!
---Evelyn on 2/21/07


Matthew 11:13; and Luke 16:16
Zechariah 13:1-9
Divine inspiration continued until the time of Christ, with John the Baptist being the last of the OT style prophets. The three parts of the Bible include the Law, the Prophets and the Writings - the NT contains the last of the writings, inspired by God and sealed by Christ who is that fountain. The RCC does believe in angelic and saintly messengers, but they are only considered as private revelation and not eligible to be included in the scriptures.
---lorra8574 on 2/21/07


Part two. On the matter of heavenly messengers, the RCC investigates them but most are frauds. Test them against the existing scriptures, to teach something that contradicts scripture automatically discredits them in the RCC. A true messenger would point you back to God, anything else is a fake.
---lorra8574 on 2/21/07


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Do you believe God is the same yesterday, today and forever? If yes, why are you asking? you can tell if they are from God or Satan. ask them to shake your hand. if they say No, you know they are an angel. God cannot deceive us. John the beloved is still walking the earth today. that was his promise from Jesus Christ himself to never taste death. Be careful, because you do not know who you may be speaking to in life. I have seen angels face to face and that is why my faith is so strong in Jesus Christ.
---Dave on 2/21/07


I agree with Rebecca_D on the Angels, and what your mom saw that is so beautiful, my mom before she died walk with Jesus and how she decribed it, everything was so beautiful..mary4964
---mary4964 on 2/21/07


No worries, mate, we know you're not an angel.
---Ringo on 2/21/07


I have not seen any evidence of an angelic presence here. Angels are God's messengers and would have no use for a monitor, mouse and a dispute about angels.
---another on 2/21/07


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Angels are messangers, sent by God. They are ministering spirits, Heb 1:7&14. I believe that God sends angels to comfort us in a time of need. when my mom was on her death bed she was counting. I said mom what are you doing? She said I'm counting how many angels I see. Then she started laughing, I said what is so funny. She said, I'm out running the devil and he can't keep up. God said forget not of who you intertain, because it could be an angel (paraphrasing) Hebrews 13:2.
---Rebecca_D on 2/21/07


Disbelieving the truth does not make the truth not true, nor does it make it unreal, for God still sends angels to speak to people. But there are angels sent from God in heaven, and there are also fallen angels called demons from hell, therefore not all angels should be accepted but those from the pit should be reprimanded and thrown out.
---Eloy on 2/21/07


How do you know that one of us is not an angel?
---someone on 2/21/07


Rev. 22:18-19, no adding or subtracting. if we cannot add or subtract to book of revelations, that would include all books of Bible. Angels who serve God, why would they disobey God, when God makes this very clear about adding to Bible. continued
---Paul on 2/21/07


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Angels, who reside in Heaven, they still serve and God can speak through them. but adding scriptures, no, that is not in Bible.
---paua6884 on 2/21/07


Try this one:

Galatians 1:6-8

6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
---Jack on 2/20/07


Ummm...i'm pretty sure God can still use angels to speak to us...but he can also speak to us directly and through people...
---mark on 2/20/07


I don't think you will find such a verse in the Bible that says God doesn't use angels for messengers anymore. We are told to be hospitable because we don't know when we will be entertaining them unawares. What makes you say God doesn't use them anymore?
---john on 2/20/07


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Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

The crux of the matter is that Mormons change the true identity of Jesus to that of a created being (like Satan) that he existed in heaven before coming to earth but not as God himself.

Joseph Smith would not have to create his own Jesus if he knew him. Please give Jesus a chance without Joseph Smith, don't join the Mormons
---Pharisee on 2/20/07


Looks like another attempt to lead people down the false doctrine trail to me. We're not falling for your question this time.
---Susie on 2/20/07


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