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Who do you think the next president will be? Clinton or Obama or someone else?

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Look here, Obama's father met his mother when he was a student at the university of Hawaii. when obama was two, his father returned to Kenya. His mother then married an Indonesian and lived there for nine years. Divorced, returned to Hawaii. His mother raised him as a Christian. You all have problem with that!!!

Obama is a president or not, will not stop islam is rising fast in America.
---Sheila on 1/12/08


as a former muslim Obama was not allowed to convert to Christianity.
The penalty for conversion is death. If they tried to enforce that - we would quickly be in another war
---Andrea on 1/11/08


Mark- I would raher have Obama as president than Clinton as president.

Most people are tired of Bush -> Clinton -> Bush -> and Clinton again?

When people choose Bush Jr, he is continuing what is left from his father, Bush Sr. If Hillary to become president, she is continuing what if left from her husband, Bill.

Everybody want a fresh new change. Agree with Mark.
---Sheila on 1/10/08


sorry, i meant to comment on obama. he's so well spoken and seems so kind. i think this country is long been ready for a black president.i'm not so sure he'll get the black vote, i don't think they feel he knows what it's like to be oppressed. i do think more black voters will support hillary.9854
---kimberlynn on 9/25/07


TS: I am glad somebody got my point. Thanks.
---Madison1101 on 4/2/07




Madison: You are correct. None are righteous on either side. One claims they are with Jesus but then does things not in tune with His Spirit. The other has a boisterous counter-culture that gets heard. Follow the money trail; that is what they are all mostly about.
---TS on 4/2/07


Sue, I should have said, just the few men i've talked to on the street say they perfer this life style. Even by them saying that maybe it's just pride talking. I feel for them, I always give them something, and hope they spend it wisley.
---wayne on 3/27/07


Mary: The blog is on a political topic. Obama for President, what could be more political than that?
---Madison1101 on 3/26/07


There is some truth that a small percentage of the homeless would rather live that way.
Lets not lump the "homeless" into one lump. There are times when decent innocent people find themselves in a homeless situation due to illness or other situations that deplete them financially. I never give homeless ones money I only give them food so they can't spend it on drugs or alcohol. Oh, and can we leave politics out of this????
---marya3575 on 3/26/07


Wayne, did I read correctly you wrote that a homeless person perferred being homeless? You are sadly mistaken.My husband, a hard working man, and I are one paycheck away from being homeless. Do you think he can find a decent job? He is a machinist by trade making barely above minimum wage. But thank God he has a job because some dont, they are homeless.
---sue on 3/26/07




#2 Madison. we as bible believing Christians have allowed this to happen. we have believed a lie. This country was founded on Christian principles based on and through Jesus Christ. Now we have the liberals telling us this is incorrect. We cannot remain apathetic. I'm glad you believe the bible 100%. Jesus said "the gates of hell shall not prevail against His church".
---wayne on 3/26/07


Madison, #1- I know that minimum wages isn't enough. It's been that way for the past 50 years. The liberals really don't care about the poor, they just want control over people. It's about greed and control.
The fact is the more handouts that is offered the more poverty we will have. Poverty begat's poverty. It's a very real spiritual wickedness
that seeks in indoctrinate our kids on the "alternate" lifestyle.
Our constitutional rights and heritage are being eroded by the liberals.
---wayne on 3/26/07


Our agenda should be a Christian agenda. Not Republican or Democrat. Having said that, Madison's rants against Republican policies are not based in reality. I think she is merely repeating liberal propaganda. Her defense of Democrats is to say that the other guys are just as bad? Dems voted to give billions to BUSINESSES, not the poor or homeless, in the Iraq funding bill. San Francisco has been run by radical liberal Democrats for years and has one of the worst homeless problems. How can that be?
---ralph7477 on 3/26/07


Susie: This debate/discussion between Wayne and me has to do with his equating the Democrats with the AntiChrist. As a Democrat, I will take offense to being equated with the AntiChrist.

I am not angry, I am educating people on the realities that there is no more righteousness in the Republican agenda as the Democratic agenda.
---Madison1101 on 3/25/07


Wayne: The rehab was a women's half-way house, and the clients did get some help with job placement, but a minimum wage job does not pay for rent in my part of the country, much less food and the other necessitities of life.

I do believe the Bible is 100% the Word of God. I also see first hand the realities of poverty and the Republican agenda's lack of caring for the children and poor in our society. I believe my political beliefs are in line with scripture. What's your point?
---Madison1101 on 3/25/07


Madison, doesn't rehab help with job placement? you never said what kind of rehab you worked in. As for the liberal political agenda, that is doing our kids more harm then anything I know of. They have views that are in every way contary to what the bible teaches. At this point I have to ask, do you bleive the Bible to be 100% the word of God? Please don't be offended.
---wayne on 3/25/07


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Caring, please explain what you mean?
---wayne on 3/25/07


Madison. I don't know which programs you're talking about that have left some people without the basic necessities of life? who do we depend on, the gov or God?
---wayne on 3/22/07

Wayne what you say is fanaticism and abuse of the mercy of God.
---Caring on 3/24/07


Wayne: You are mistaken if you think the homeless prefer to be homeless. I worked in a rehab with women with children who were discharged to go to a homeless shelter because they could not afford adequate housing. The clients I worked with did not prefer to go to the homeless shelter, they had no choice. One of my students lives in a homeless shelter in the ghetto. He and his mother don't prefer that, they have no choice.
---Madison1101 on 3/24/07


Wayne2: I know many adults who lack health insurance. My son-in-law is a contractor and does not get health insurance with his employment. My daughter has to work to provide the health insurance for the family. I know many people who must work two jobs to pay for their medical insurance. That is a travesty in our great country.
---Madison1101 on 3/24/07


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Wayne3: My original point has been lost. You made the statement that the Democrats were the antiChrist, and I took offense, as a Democrat. You tried to say that the Democratic agenda is one that is less righteous than the Republican agenda, and I brought up homelessness and social welfare as an example of how the Republicans are not as righteous as you would say.
---Madison1101 on 3/24/07


Madison, politics, medicine, the school system, etc. If anyone disagrees with your politics and they haven't even directed the answer at you, it becomes a personal attack for you personally. Everything becomes personal, and you become angry. I've looked at your responses two years ago, alot of anger there. When we voice our opinions about who we like and it's not your choice, it's not about you, Madison. You like to tangle.
---Susan on 3/24/07


Madison,#1- I don't know of any homeless shelters that the gov supports. Around here we have some that are christian based, so the fed gov wouldn't be able to support them because of that. Yes we must be willing to help those in need. God does use us to do that, back up our words with action.
---wayne on 3/24/07


#2- As far as giving medical help, no one can be treated against their will. Here in ky if someone is mentally ill and homeless social services gets them placed where they can be took care of, like mini homes or nursing homes. family usually signs them in.
then medicare or medicaid kicks in.
---wayne on 3/24/07


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#3- Madison, i know that life in the big city is different, and i know that maybe funds have been cut for some programs that have affected the handicap in some way. but no one has the "basic necessities" took away, as you said, which is food, water, and shelter. that does take place in third world countries like sudan and other countries in Africa.
---wayne on 3/24/07


#4- so Madison, in summery as you said "we must put feet to our prayers". I agree. but even if we gave 1000.00 dallars to a homeless person, they would still be homeless the next day because thats what they perfer. i do give 5 or 10 dallars every time i'm approached by a homeless person on the street when i'm in one of the bigger cities. So i'm glad you finally agree with me, we must put forth deeds and not words only. the answer is not bigger fed government. beware the hand that feeds you.
---wayne on 3/24/07


Wayne: You missed my point. The mentally ill who are homeless need medical, psychiatric help and housing. Then, you can tell them to depend on God. They won't hear your love if you just wish them well. That is Biblical. We must meet their physical needs before we try to preach to them. We are supposed to be God's hands and feet here on earth. You go down to the homeless shelters and tell those poor people to trust God for their situation without offering them help. That is so wrong.
---Madison1101 on 3/22/07


Madison, A slap in the face to depend on God? the word says "my God shall supply all my needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
---wayne on 3/22/07


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WOOHOO, for political debates gotta love em, thats why in a few months when i turn 18, i'm goin independent, b/c their are some things on both sides that i dont like
---mark on 3/22/07


Wayne#2: The churches are not meeting the needs of the poor, therefore, it is necessary for the government to step in.

Both parties have their faults and to say one is more righteous than the other is hogwash. Neither is right and neither is totally wrong. I choose to vote as God leads me, and you choose to vote as God leads you. I am not the antiChrist, and to say otherwise is to bear false witness against me.
---Madison1101 on 3/22/07


Wayne: When the mentally ill in our country are forced to live on the streets because of a lack of housing, there is something wrong. To say that they should depend on God is a slap in the face to them and all the other homeless people in our country.
---Madison1101 on 3/22/07


Madison. I don't know which programs you're talking about that have left some people without the basic necessities of life? who do we depend on, the gov or God?
---wayne on 3/22/07


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A vote for the republicians is a vote against the democratic agenda that supports less parential rights, like what is going on in Mass right now, liberal judges ledigislating from the bench in saying we have no say about what our kids are being tought in public schools.
---wayne on 3/22/07


Wayne: I do not believe that he Republican agenda is any more righteous than the Democrats. You can't support big business while leaving the poor and the elderly without the basic necessities of life and claim to be righteous.
---Madison1101 on 3/21/07


yes Madison, we as people are sinful enough. Jesus
said you're either for me or against me. Yes sadly the
democratic agenda is more anti Christ. H Clinton just
made a speech to a HS group and promised to help further
their agenda. Ever notice how everything is ok, except the
mention of Jesus? I know that with the divorce rate so
high among Christians we need to look at ourselves and not cast stones, but 2 wrongs don't make 1 right.
---wayne on 3/21/07


Before you start calling him a Christian check out the denomination with which he is affiliated. PLEASE!!!!!
---Susie on 3/20/07


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Wayne: Now we are the antiChrist? Now I have heard everything. I never knew that being a Democrat would mean I was part of the antiChrist.
---Madison1101 on 3/20/07


obama is too much of a liberal for me. according to his voting rocord in Ill he is not pro life, supports the "other" lifestyle. It's just the same old liberal ideas that the democrats have. More and more anti Christ.
---wayne on 3/20/07


Aah..... the ease of confusing the American public in politics.
When Reagan, Bush, Carter and others professed to be Christian's folks made some nasty remarks about them, and still do. (Watch)
Now we use Obama's "statement of faith" to qualify him.
Time will tell. When our hearing gets dull our feelings get sharp. If we can't hear we shall feel.
One time "faith" doesn't matter. Now, it is a selling point. Good 'ol Bama......
---Elder on 3/20/07


Perhaps something is left out in his online bio. According to that his father left when Barack was 2.His Mom remarried and they moved to Jakarta where he attended local schools. Obama went back to Hawaii-his birth place, and lived with G'parents & attended a private prep school from 5th grade til graduation.It was an old school started by Christian missionaries.
---NVBarbara on 3/20/07


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I would raher have Obama as president than Clinton as president
---mark on 3/19/07


NVBarb: I read in a biography that Obama had attended a Muslim school when he was living somewhere in Asia as a child. Not sure where, or when.
---Madison1101 on 3/19/07


1. nvBarbara I'm sure you are correct. I mis-read something which I saw headed Once a Muslim Always a Muslim and this is how the last part reads. "And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that's not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he's a Christian, but they do not."
---m.p.a. on 3/19/07


2. It doesn't matter what he was anyway. What he is now is the important thing and if he is saved (and I have no reason to doubt that) the angels in heaven will be rejoicing.
---m.p.a. on 3/19/07


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Can anyone tell me where it states that Obama was EVER a Muslim? His father MAY have been, I can't find any info on that. He left Obama's mother when Obama was 2 years old and they never saw one another again. Help?
---NVBarbara on 3/18/07


From the information that I can find Barak Obama is a born again Christian (a Baptist) but was previously a muslim. So what, I wasn't always a Christian, nor were any of you, so why the fuss about his Islamic background. Anyone here who is proud of their past go ahead and sling the first stones at him -and me.
---m.p.a. on 3/18/07


Elder: Obama is not a Muslim, he is a Christian. This was discussed on another blog. He attends a Christian church.
---Madison1101 on 3/18/07


Elder are you classifying Obama as a Muslim based on the mans name? Because last I checked he attends a house of worship under a Christian denomination. Is that just a ruse to get people to think he is a christian when in reality he is a muslim who has infiltrated a christian body of worship and the U.S. Senate? WOW!!! What a conspiracy theory.
---Ryan on 3/17/07


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Since so many "dedicated" Christians are looking towards Obama maybe you need to ask a question.
He is a Muslim, so when attacked by terrorist Muslims, will he fight his Muslim brothers and sisters or just allow Christians and others to die in the streets of America?
My friend Jerry said it best......Wake Up America!
Feelings are so different than reality.
---Elder on 3/17/07


I am so grateful that my church does not discuss politics from the pulpit. Our prayer bulletin lists elected officials to pray for each week. We are encouraged to vote, but not HOW to vote. We have members who run for local offices, but they are mentioned in the prayer bulletin, that is all.
---Madison1101 on 3/17/07


Hi; I agree with you Rebecca, even though I can see the humor of the "turn Your head while I vote, God" position lol! But yeah, my church had pamphlets encouraging everybody to vote on a measure--and I voted against it, for the few people I felt would truly be hurt by that measure--victims of sexual abuse and rape--and I voted my conscience, right or wrong. God knows the heart of each voter--in the church and elsewhere.
---Mary on 3/17/07


Rebecca, good point. we should keep politics out of the church, but theres no way we can keep church out of poltics. what do we say? turn your head God while i vote?
---wayne on 3/15/07


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I think any one would be better than Clinton, Obama or Bush.
---Kyoko on 3/12/07


Know what really bothers me? Is when Election comes around and people are getting ready to vote, and that is good. We need to vote for the best person in office. but the ones that don't vote get so upset because so and so won the Election and their not happy. Well maybe if they would have voted, the other person would have one. Another thing that bothers me is when people try to bring polictis into church and see who is voting for who. Am I the only one is bothered by this?
---Rebecca_D on 3/8/07


You've hit the nail on the head, Chris.

The next president will be Clinton, Obama, or someone else.
---Jack on 3/8/07


I know he looks young, but Obama is no kid! He's 46 years old, older than Kennedy when he was elected, plus he seems to posses morals! He has served 11 years in the Ill. Senate. He was instrumental in pushing through some important bills to help families, among other things. Read his bio online, impressive.
---NVBarbara on 3/7/07


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I am unsure at this point who I am going to vote for. I suppose I will take the suggestion in the song...kneel on my knees and pray.
---Chris on 3/7/07


NV Barbara,just want you to know what I wrote came from Obama's Official Web Page. Thought you might be interested to read all his postings. I agree there are "slim pickings" this time. It's so true we all better be praying about the next President now, before things get worse later.
---Darlene_1 on 3/7/07


Obama does not have enough experience to run nationally People will eventually see that he is empty. Clinton will probably beat him just because of who she is and the connections that she has. But I doubt She'll win nationally either. But then again I don't really see any strong candidates right now.
---Jared on 3/7/07


Since there's so much disagreement on this Christian site, and Christians argue with one another, and there is little unity in the Body of Christ today, how could we agree on who should be President? We need to do what Second Chronicles 7:14 says!!!!!!!!!!
---Anonymous on 3/7/07


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I'm leaning towards McCain as he is probably the only person strong enough to lead this country. I don't think Obama will get past the democratic convention for either president or vice-president. Clinton if she runs at all, "might" run as vice-president. Anyone that thinks that this country is not still racist has never lived in the south. While pastoring in Oklahoma, we had people visit our church who did not come back because we were a mixed congregation.
---Susie on 3/7/07


Why would anyone want to vote for either one? John Edwards is the only choice for America
---John_Robert on 3/7/07


The 'pickings' are slim, but I lean towards Obama. As time goes by I may change my mind, we'll see...
---NVBarbara on 3/7/07


Brenda: "I think we need to do some serious praying about the next President" Amen, sooo true.

Grace, would like to know what song that is...like that about the kneeling position.

I know what candidates I prefer, but I hope to be willing, able and alert to whoever God leads me to vote for, even if "not my will"
---christina on 3/7/07


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Obama wants to end war in Iraq but wants USA to give 53 million dollars to help rebuild Congo Africa torn by war. He helped get 20 million for African Peace Keeping Mission for Darfur,also 13 million dollars for a Special Court in another African Country. It seems he is prejudice against helping USA and yellow,red,& whites and will lean toward more Black help throughout the World. Charity and help should begin at home no matter the President or the color of a person's skin. US dollars spreading thin.
---Darlene_1 on 3/7/07


I think we need to do some serious praying about the next President.
They all speak great swelling words but who is concerned about the future of American Morale Values, this is what we have to protect. If we elect someone who's morales are off the scriptual balance then we all loose. I challenge all Christians who truly have a heart for Christ to pray like you have never prayed before. These are the perilous times that is spoken of in Matthew.
In Christ, love to all.
---Brenda on 3/7/07


Hillary Clinton said opposition to illegal immigration was a violation of the Good Samaritan, and even Jesus Christ. She said at one time we ought to fund U.S. but not Iraqi troops, she's too slick. Obama is too inexperienced. Sen. John McCain is a moral, Christian, who is not self righteous, experienced and would make the best president, and hopefully will win.
---Glen on 3/6/07


Why would anyone vote on color of skin for a president. Are we that racist. Lets vote for the best person for the job.
---duane on 3/6/07


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There is a Contemporary Christian song that talks about politics. The question asked what is your position ON: and names a number of different things. The artists answer is that his position is Kneeling! I don't remember the name of the song, I haven't heard it in a while but it's a cool song.
---grace3869 on 3/6/07


I am not sure who I will vote for in the Democratic primary. I have been impressed by Obama, Clinton and Biden. Who ever gets the nomination, gets my vote in the general election. I refuse to vote for a Republican.
---Madison1101 on 3/6/07


Someone else. Like maybe a true born again, charging hell with a bucket of water Christian. But that won't happen, cause' it is politics and God and Politics don't mix.
---Rebecca_D on 3/6/07


Frankly, it doesn't matter what shade of skin the president has. What matters is which direction he/she will steer the country. Does the country move towards internationalism and secularism or does it move to it's roots in Judao-Christian faith an ethics. Do you believe the constitution is a rigid framework or a living ever-changing ideal? It doesn't matter if he/she is good looking or a good speaker. What matters is who they are ethically.
---Anthony on 3/6/07


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Hi guys; I used to consider myself a proud republican but I lean more and more towards democrat now; soooooooooooo sick of Bush and anyone like him! We need a change; I thought Bush was "godly" but I haven't seen any proof in his pudding, so to speak! Except maybe BLOOD pudding! :(
---Mary on 3/6/07


Does it matter?
---Ryan on 3/6/07


i think it will be clinton/obama, or clinton/edwards. I am a spirit-filled christian but, i don't vote straight republican, i'm more of a conservatve democrat. i search my heart and pray before i vote. i don't see enough being done with healthcare, that frustrates me. i know people have a hard time with what pres. clinton did, but- he asked for forgiveness, if god has forgiven him how can we not? kimberlynn9864
---kimberlynn on 3/6/07


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