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Muslims And Jesus

I am a muslim and I am forbidden to criticize any religion. We believe Jesus peace be upon Him will come back as the Messiah. He is much loved in our religion. Islam is a religion for everyone. Jesus and Moses were revealed about the last prophet Muhammad.

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Todd1_NO, we should'nt persecute anyone.
Everything i've given on this, IS truth.

Jesus said that it would be by the Love that we show towards one another(Christians)and that the lost would SEE how WE loved one another & took care of each other so that NONE lacked!
Have you read that part?
We are so far from the Ways of My Brother!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 7/1/08

If those who do not accept Christ as Lord and Savior are to be condemned by God, as I believe they will, should they be persecuted and condemned by Christians as well?

We have eternal life to look forward to, the unsaved have eternal death to look forward to.

We, having such great advantage, should strive to be as kind to the unsaved as possible. Perhaps they will be drawn to Christ by the love we bear them.

Hate, persecution and ridicule have no place in a Christian life. Teach the truth, do not attack the false.
---Todd1 on 7/1/08

DDM::While not disagreeing with you in fairness to the truth. God made a recorded promise to Abraham with regards to Hagar and Ishmael.This was before The coming of Jesus.There are some amongst them who do revere the Commandments of God as Faithfully as they know How.This has nothing to do with the Koran which as you say is spurious.We are all Gods Creation we should let Him Deal with the situation, while we continue in our walk which has much to be desired.If the truth must be told.
---Emcee on 7/1/08

Emcee_Being Followers of Ishmael does NOTHING for THEM, BUT Condemn them!

My reply is for the Muslims that believe they are ok, W/O Jesus as their Saviour!!!

At least i got 98% right,
I'm a 100% right!
The Bible says so...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 7/1/08

DDM:: The 8 Part informative diatribe on the followers of Islam are 98% correct But there is a group who are quite also not so warlike but still dedicated and are believed to be the followers of Ishmael.People themselves are ok But the fanatic are uncontrollable like in any sect .IMHO.
---Emcee on 7/1/08

---raz In your statement you state that Islam is a religion for everyone. I submit to you that you have not read at your own holy book.
---Mima on 7/1/08

Jesus is God. The Son of God. The only God worthy of worship and praise and honor. there is only one Eternal Father and His son Jesus.
Every knee will bend to His name.
All people including Muslims, atheists, all people in the occult too.# Romans 14:11
For it is written: "`As I live,' saith the Lord, `every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God.'"
Philippians 2:10
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in Heaven and things on earth and things under the earth,
---Paul on 7/1/08

shin-dig, has nothing to do W/War!
The Shin-dig i'm talking about is the Marriage Supper of the Lamb of God and HIS Bride...
Even though War is here & enevitible to continue until ALL is Fulfilled!
You shall SEE soon enough & Believe 4 your self, There is NOTHING hidden that God won't bring to light, soon that small spark in you, will become as Bright as anyones light among us.

When this happens, Remember, who's footprints those were in the sand!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/17/08


Sorry, about the snide comment. It was uncalled for.

But by getting this shin-dig on the road, do you mean starting a war?
---atheist on 6/17/08

I've been studying them(Islam) for about 30 yrs(1979), when they attacked the U.S Emb. in Iran.
Like i said "LOVE" is NOT Mentioned 1 time in the Koran!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/17/08

DDM--Wow, that was awesome! I wanted to say this, but you did a wonderful job and it couldn't have been done any better!
---james on 6/17/08

What i lack in spelling & gram-mar,
I make up in Knowledge of My Father!
Thank you!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/17/08

Big A: Read carefully. The word was "peace" - not "love." I accuse you of being an anti-war peacenik - not a "lovenik."
---jerry6593 on 6/17/08


Interestly that you can suddenly change you writing style to produce complete SenTences withOut Weird capitolisations and personized spelings.

Anyway back to my point---by getting this shin-dig on the road---do you mean starting a war?
---atheist on 6/16/08

PT 1
Allah is not a god of peace or love and you will not find the word LOVE written even one time in the Koran. The primary mandate of the Koran is to conquer the world and kill off all non-Muslims. As a matter of fact, Muhammad COMMANDS Muslims that, after they have conquered any people, they are required to put the sword to their neck and say, "Convert of die" with the understanding that if you don't convert on the spot, they are required to cut your head off.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08

Pt 2
The Meccans worshiped Allah as the moon or their moon and war god, believed that Allah was married to the sun (a female deity), and Allah had three daughters who were all stars. Long before Muhammad was born, Allah was the principle god of Muhammad's family or tribe, the Quraysh. This means that Muhammad was raised in the pagan Meccan cult of Sabianism worshiping the moon as Allah the war god.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08

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Pt 3
Muhammad and his family were primarily moon worshipers with the family symbol being the crescent moon of Allah, the war god.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08

In this statement, it is made clear that the Muslims recognize that Allah was one of a number of pagan gods worshiped in Mecca by the Meccan religion of Sabianism. In fact, he was one of more than 360 pagan gods worshiped by the Meccans. Allah's original Arabic name was Ali Allah but the Ali was dropped before Muhammad was born. Allah was the Meccan Moon and War god which is still recognize in Islam by the symbol of Allah, the crescent moon being place on all Muslim mosques.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08

the God of the Bible was a real, living entity which the people of Israel saw and heard. It is important to note that, at no time in the Koran, did anyone see or hear Allah. As a matter of fact, not even Muhammad was reported to have seen or heard Allah because the Koran was alleged to have been dictated to Muhammad by the angel, Gabriel. The only time Allah has been seen by anyone was when he was worshiped by the Meccans as the moon meaning that no one has ever heard Allah.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08

Pt6, Exodus 24:9-10
This is a very incredible verse. 74 of the leaders of Israel saw and ate with this being, God, and it infers that the being, God, put his hand on Moses in front of the others. Never did any of the Muslims eat and drink with Allah.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08

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This shows the God of the Bible as a living being which spoke to Moses before all the people face to face as we speak to each other.
There was never such an instance in the Koran where anyone ever saw Allah speak to Muhammad or anyone else.
This is confirmed in verse 78:37 of the Koran "the Lord of the heavens and the earth and all that lies between them, the Merciful, with whom no one can speak."
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08

The God of the Bible is very different in that the Bible shows that not only did all of the prophets of the Bible speak directly with God but that anyone can speak to God through prayer. The only time anyone did see Allah was when the Meccans saw Allah (the moon) at night in the sky when they worshiped him.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08



So I'd make a good Muslim because I hate war and Islam is claimed to be a religion of love. (This doesn't say much for Christians.)

So in this childishly simple world of opposites you inhabit does that mean that you are a good Christian because you love war? And Christianity is a religion of hate?

Please, I think both religions have their quailities and their faults, and particularly their nut cases. Is your "foundation" so absolute?
---atheist on 6/16/08

You guys did not understand what I wrote. YES, I agree that Muhammad did not agree with what Jesus said that He is the Son of God. What I wrote was "tongue in cheek", that Muhammad HAS TO BE a false prophet since he said one thing and believed another (that Jesus was only a prophect) and passed this one to Muslims.
---james on 6/16/08

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Exactly what do you mean by shin-dig?

---atheist on 6/16/08

atheist: You'd make a good Muslim. After all, you hate war, and they claim that Islam is the religion of peace.
---jerry6593 on 6/16/08


If you are still there...

I am sorry for the lack of civility in the responses.

I am an atheist and I believe that religion divides people and causes them to mistrust people unnecessarily. A point that too many entries unfortunately prove.

It seems to be that all you wanted to do is reach out and talk to those who mistrust your religion. Is that right?
---atheist on 6/16/08

Duane Wrote:
>>"A law was just passed in Iran, Anyone that coverts to Christianity or Judaism Will be Beheaded."<<

Yes, and since the invasion of Iraq, we will probably see more such laws. We have only thrown fuel on the fire as far as relations with Muslims go. At least before the war, there were Christians and missionaries living in relative peace in Iraq. Now, most of them have fled, and persecution is the rule of the day.
---obewan on 6/16/08

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A law was just passed in Iran, Anyone that coverts to Christianity or Judaism Will be Beheaded.
They've been doing it for a while,
But,Now they've made it a LAW.
Praise God were another day closer to getting this shin-dig on the road.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/16/08

James Islamic teaching is that God has no Son so the very idea is seen as blasphemy. They stone blasphemers to death today.
---Warwick on 6/16/08

james _I imagine theirs alot of Jews in Hell who thought Jesus was only a Prophet AND not who HE said he was, "The Son of God".
What are you saying, That we can believe that Jesus was just a Prophet and still make it to Heaven?
I hope not!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/15/08

DDM, Yes, since Jesus said He was the Son of God, and Muhammad said that Jesus was a true prophet (didn't lie), then even Muhammad must have agreed that Jesus was the Son of God, but now none of the muslims understand this. They can't have it both ways.
---james on 6/15/08

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a)If Islam holds Jesus in such high esteem then why do its followers(following the Koran) persecute and kill innocent Christians world wide?

You say Muslims cannot criticize any religion but reality and the Koran contradict you. See Surah 47:4 The Noble Koran 'So, when you meet (in fight-Jihad in Allah's cause) those who disbelieve, smite (their) necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them i.e take them as captives).'
---Warwick on 6/12/08

b)Surah 4:89 The Noble Koran ' Those who reject Islam must be killed. If they turn back (from Islam),take (hold of) them and kill them whereever you find them.' Surah 5:51 'Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya (friends, protectors, helpers) as they are but Auliya of each other. And if any among you takes them (as Auliya) then surely he is one of them.'

A rapidly growing percentage of Western people are becoming aware of the lies Muslims tell. Fortunately!
---Warwick on 6/12/08

You must (DDM) be either from a very top notch university, or have not finished school. The way you so cleverly turn around the situation. It was my sources that were being dissed. I am in the defense position - defending the reputation of people to speak and to be heard and not to be brainwashed by the likes of you, into believing that there mode of speaking (computer) is somehow discreditting them. You must be over 80 if you really dislike information technology so much. Poisoning minds? puleeze.
---frances008 on 6/11/08

DDM, I know that there are many imitators of Christians going around but they really show their truly colours by not loving freedom of thought, free speech, information technology, and the truth.
---frances008 on 6/11/08

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DDM, your use of the 'now' in your usual explosive capitals, implies that somehow it is I who wish to deprive others of the ability to use their brains freely, when it is you who do so. This is the height of hypocrisy that reminds me so much of the Pharisees, not entering the gates of Heaven and shutting the doors on those who would enter.
---frances008 on 6/11/08

frances008_NOW, people can't "love the Truth", unless we Believe youtube and Don't talk bad about You-Tuber Religion?
I'm still praying for you...
Man this is getting strange!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/11/08

The Christians who are speaking out in defence of Christianity, are on 'youtube'. Youtube is a medium which the Holy Spirit is using. People banned from God Tube are on Youtube. I recommend that to receive good teaching you find good teachers on that medium not God Tube. Anyone speaking against 'youtubers' cannot love the Truth.
---frances008 on 6/11/08

Dear Ken, I have had an extremely busy week and I do not sit at my computer all day. Therefore I cannot patrol it the way you seem to. So by the time I read your error, the correction was already put up. I cannot use the email facilities on this site. I live in Japan. I don't know why I cannot become a member of this site, it is just the way things are.
---frances008 on 6/11/08

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Two persons kindly reminded me of my error (unlike you). I did research it with scripture and found that they were correct. I gave them my thanks, and a sincere apology. Even those who research sometime error. However, you should "practice what you preach" because it is quite evident in your posts that you never research at all. JUST AN OBSRVATION.
---Ken on 6/10/08

The reason for my brief lesson is this: Muslims would love the world to believe that their God is the same God of the Jew and Christian. They want us to believe in a "friendly coexistence" to live among us as 12,000,000 already do. Our nation is already making Lebanons mistake. Some already hold political office here (as in Lebanon). Military takeover against us is'nt an option for them, however a takeover from within is. Just ask those from Lebanon.
---Ken on 6/10/08

James & All,
A very brief history lesson concerning Islam: Lebanon in the 1940's gained it independence from France. The majority of it's population was Christian. They befriended Muslims and had open borders. Muslims practice polygamy (many wives). Through this practice, and through the open borders Muslims eventually became the majority. That majority forced the Christians out of their homes and country. It is still under Muslim control and no Jew or Christian is allowed to enter. Ever.
---Ken on 6/10/08

However, youtube is also controlled to a degree. A brilliant film I watched on how the Satanic World is led by the Vatican, was taken down within days. Alex Jones, an alternative media man, happens to be a Vatican coadjutor (sp). So, like television, yes, the devil tries to control everything. But he has a hard time controlling youtube.
---frances008 on 6/10/08

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Too many people suspect the truth. TV - I expect you still believe that men walked on the moon. Even though Kissinger and others have almost admitted that it was fake, they say on French TV (posted on youtube) that the filming was done in England.
---frances008 on 6/10/08

I suspected the truth about 911 in April 2003 from an article in a Catholic newspaper. I realized that the media was taken over in April 2004 when the Holy Spirit showed me. Since then I have gotten my information from the internet and books which I buy. Youtube, I only got to access it in 2008.
---frances008 on 6/10/08

Please frances008, I've got better things to do than deal with anything even remotely connected to LOOOOONTUBE.
---Ken on 6/10/08

Ken on the 'What did Eve do wrong' thread, you put up too bits of incorrect information. You then had to make a Correction. Perhaps you ought to do some research before posting. Just a suggestion.
---frances008 on 6/10/08

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Raz, are you a new convert? People of other religions are being killed or persecuted by Muslims while I write this blog. They do not tolerate other religions. The Koran admonishes followers of Muhammad to KILL infidels (nonbelievers). Yes, they believe that Jesus was a prophet and value His teachings but not all of them. Also, they are taught to say what ever it takes to convert someone to Islam.
---jody on 6/10/08

Ken your statement is a bit like saying 'I don't agree with printing presses, books, libraries, websites, or alternative media.' Why don't you admit that all your info comes from CIA, I mean CNN or is it Rupert Murdoch's FOX (which letters have a numerical value of 666).
---frances008 on 6/10/08

Ken, youtube consists of real people not highly paid parrots. It is not owned by a select elite group of illuminati who work for the Vatican, as far as I know, and I think anyone can put videos up. Like they have live videos of Japan's parliament (diet) discussing whether 911 was an inside job as they suspect. But you, just continue to be spoonfed your information like a baby after all that is what 2 Thess 2 is about, people who love the lies they are fed.
---frances008 on 6/10/08

I have heard for myself certain Muslims say hateful words against America they did not specify that terror should be for specific people excluding Christians they hate the Jews/Americans/British only they don't make it so well known now becos it wont be tolerated. People who do not know God for themselves think Muslims have got a point, but they are misguided and need to wise up, try giving one a bible!
---Carla5754 on 6/10/08

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YouTube? I was wondering where you got all this rediculous nonsence from. Thanks for letting all of us know. YouTube, the place to get the real truth! Give me a break.
---Ken on 6/10/08

Islam is a false religion that sprang from ''Christianity''. It belongs to the daughters of the Prostitute of Revelations 17 and 18. The purpose of it is to destroy Judaism in a Third World War. However, the Muslims had NOTHING to do with 911. The invasion was a part of the plans for a NWO and endless War on Terror. Watch September Clues on youtube.
---frances008 on 6/9/08

I hate to be a Nit-Picker too james,
however, I don't care what religion or denomenation someone is, IF you don't claim that JESUS IS the SON of GOD, you have the Spirit of AntiChrist in you.
Not a Prophet or a Good Man, BUT, The SON of GOD!
That's what Jesus said, So who you going to believe, Him or Them?
Even the Jews have to come to this Realization, So for one to think that THEY don't, would be Foolish, to say the Least...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/9/08

So you have Muslim friends? Good. However, beware of what they tell you. Their God is "Allah", not God The Creator. To the Christian, Jesus is God Himself in the flesh. Muslims reduce Him to nothing more than a prophet. Only those who are born again, and accept in their hearts Jesus as the Son of God (the Creator)can recieve the Holy Spirit. Do not listen to the Muslims.
---Ken on 6/9/08

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I have many friends who are muslim. I did do some study in this. So, IF Muhammad said Jesus was a true prophet and didn't lie, then Jesus also said that He was going to heaven and would give us the Holy Spirit and therefore there is no more need of ANY more prophets again. As I see it, anyone who says they are a prophet/apostle after Jesus went to heaven is a liar. Ok, so I am a nit-picker. But you can't have it both ways.
---james on 6/8/08

Muhammad might promise eternal life to those who obey his commands, but he was just a man, and he has not paid the price for your sins and sat down at the right hand of God. Where in the Koran does it say that Muhammad was not a man. All men face judgement. That is your faith isn't it. So you do not know for sure if your leader was truly saved.
---frances008 on 6/5/08

Raz, I respect your faith and your obedience to it. However, a good soldier (or at least an intelligent one) will take a look at the two sides (or three or whatever) and look at the leadership and the system of rewards and punishments, and the power, the weaponry, the chances of success, and what will happen if you lose. They will join the winning team and be willing to fight to the death for their leader. Those will return home and live.
---frances008 on 6/4/08

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In the 11-minute tape, a voice purportedly belonging to Ayman al-Zawahri says in Arabic that the "salvation of the Muslim nation is through the march of its sons on the path of jihad."
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/4/08

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Dear Raz, I watched a muslim testify that when he was in jail he fasted and prayed because he wanted God to reveal himself. After many days nothing happened. He was getting weak obviously, and it was quite dangerous. He then committed the worst sin in the Muslim faith and that is to doubt Allah's existence. Then (it is amazing) but the REAL God came down upon him. The Holy Spirit. But he did not know which god this was. So he asked. A man appeared and touched him on the shoulder and answered NEXT
---frances008 on 6/4/08

'Jesus Christ'. He goes on (weeping) to say that he could hardly believe that all his many sins are forgiven, which was what Jesus was telling him. (Islam was created by the Catholic Church to send Muslims to eternal destruction and to cause wars against the real God.)
---frances008 on 6/4/08

#4 However, because I was in a church that is disobedient, I was not producing fruit for God, in that I was not bringing people back to God. EVEN SO, by reading books obtained in Catholic shops and libraries, I was able to figure my way out of the maze and into true nondenominational Christianity. The truth is the truth and if you seek it you WILL find it. Read the Bible.
---frances008 on 6/4/08

#3 Dear Raz, many times in my life as a Catholic (formerly) I had the Holy Spirit fill me up and let me see my sorry state. I believed that Jesus alone could save me. However, because I was in a church that is disobedient, I was not producing fruit for God, in that I was not bringing people back to God. EVEN SO, by reading books obtained in Catholic shops and libraries, I was able to figure my way into true Christianity. The truth is the truth and if you seek it you WILL find it. Read the Bible.
---frances008 on 6/4/08

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The Dome was built upon Gods' Holy Temple by Muslims after the fall of Jerusalem. Muslims believe Jesus was just a prophet, not the Son of God. Islam is not even a choice for me, and Muhammad isn't mentioned anywhere in scripture.
---Ken on 6/4/08

It says on the "Dome of the Rock"(Islamic Temple), Yes, the one that sits on GODS Holy Mt. in Jerusalem,
"Allah is God, And he has NO Son"

Man IF that AIN'T the Spirit of AC, I Don't know What could be then?
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 6/4/08

Why do I get the strange idea that you are NOT a Muslim, as the Koran DOES criticize both Judaism AND Christianity?

Islam does not believe that Jesus was crucified, and therefore could not have been raised from the dead. Since there is no Resurrected Jesus, there is no salvation in it.
---Jack on 6/4/08

My friend, my very life proves who my Redeemer is. In order to get to heaven you have to have a Savior, unless, you are better than I am. I am a rotten person, without Jesus.
---catherine on 3/16/07

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If Islam is so peace loving why is it that in all Islamic countries any other religion is not tolerated and many are killed in horrific ways and, often, their children removed and 're-educated'? Why also do muslims move into other countries where they know different religions are practiced and then try to take over and insist on tolerance for themselves; something that they never give to others?
---m.p.a. on 3/16/07

If Muhammad was a prophet why did he say that Jesus didn't die on a cross when there are historical writings from the period that prove it? NO historian would risk his reputation on that assertion.
a prophet will speak no falsehood in the name of the Lord; Muhammad also said that Jesus was a prophet. Jesus predicted his own death on a cross, so now my friend YOU need to decide who the liar is because Muhammad denies this FACT.
---Pharisee on 3/16/07

You say you are forbidden to criticize any religion. How then do you explain that you are taught to kill Christians who are the infidels?
---Helen_5378 on 3/16/07

God hates religion, which is man's failed attempts to reach God. The only way to the Father is through His Son Jesus Christ and His death on the Cross for sin.
---Helen_5378 on 3/16/07

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Why do you want to promote the Islam religion on a Christian site? The god of Islam is Allah. The God of Christianity is Jesus Christ.
---Helen_5378 on 3/16/07

Why do you criticize christians for eating pork on another blog if it is forbidden to criticize other religions
---Buttons on 3/15/07

Are you a freedom fighter?
---Mendy on 3/15/07

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