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Can The Dead Speak To Us

Some say they have seen their loved ones and some say they even spoke with them...does the Scripture support this statement that the dead can do things?

Moderator - No, but demons can.

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Before Jesus saved me, my mother had past away. One night I was sorter overwrought about her leaving me. I heard her voice so loud. It was not a loving tone of voice. Exactly the way she has sounded at times when she was living. I now realize that it was Satan imitating my mother's voice. Please do not dabble in such witchcraft.
---catherine on 3/17/09


"Part 2: Job 14:12,21 (The dead are unconscious and unaware of what is going on around them),Psalm 104:29 (reverse process of creation), Psalm 146:4 (No breath=no thoughts),Eccl 9:5,6,10(the dead know nothing),Dan 12:2 (when someone dies they are not awaken until the resurrection at the second coming).John 5:28-29(same)John 6:39(same)John 11:11-14(Jesus referred death as sleep)NB/ Lazarus never spoke about life after death.Because he knew nothing."
Jenny, What do don't understand is that when God talks about the dead, he talks about your physical body in the grave not your spiritual body. Our God is the god of the living not the dead! And no one has being sentenced to death yet by god except Satan.
---Ricky on 3/17/09


Jesus told the thief on the cross, that "today you will be with me in paradise." He didn't mean his physical body, but his spiritual one. So I do not believe that our spirit is asleep in the grave. When Jesus returns and the dead in Christ rise first, their new bodies will be reunited with their spirit that has been with Jesus all along.
---bara7776 on 11/25/07


I heard Billy Graham say once that people who believe they are speaking to their dead loved ones are in reality speaking to a demon. That alone would keep me from doing it and then there is the fact that our God forbids it.
---bara7776 on 11/25/07


I agree with the Moderator. What they see and hear are familiar spirits. It is all demonic and not a place where Christians need to go unless they are being used by God to deliver these people who are being affected by this.
---betty8468 on 11/24/07




Scriptures does not contradict Scriptures. When one does not read Scriptures in light of other Scriptures, they start developing false teachings. Saying that Elijah and Enoch died, is to say the Bible is a lie.

The Bible makes it clear that Elijah and Enoch was taken body and soul to heaven (II Kings 2:11, Genesis 5:21-24, and Hebrews 11:5). Thereby, one must seek the true meaning of Jesus' words in John 3:13, and read the surrounding passages, in order to interpret in correctly.
---Ramon on 4/13/07


#2 Read John 1:18, John 6:38, John 6:62, John 8:23-24, John 8:42, John 13:3, John 16:27-28, 1 Corinthians 15:45-49.

Jesus, in John 3:13, was essentially responding to a series of rhetorical questions posed by an inspired writer centuries before Christs advent: Proverbs 30:1-4

Only the Son of Men have descended from heaven, after alreadly being in Heaven (eternally), by his own power, to reveal the heavenly things (v.12). He is the one, who by his own power, will ascend back to heaven again.
---Ramon on 4/13/07


#3.No man have ascended to heaven, by his own power, and come down to reveal the unseen place of God. Enoch and Elijah was assumed into heaven, not by there own will and power, but by the God Himself.

Jesus is the only one who eternally came down from heaven, and will eternally stepped back into heaven again.

Jesus wasn't denying Enoch and Elijah "ascension". Elijah and Enoch had been taken by God, which is different than freely ascending up into heaven on ones own terms.
---Ramon on 4/13/07


On a side note, "Go up" as taken in John 3:13 means to "ascend". Elijah and Enoch was "assumed" into heaven by God.(II Kings 2:11, Genesis 5:21-24; Hebrews 11:5). They didn't "ascend" into heaven by their own power. They were "assumed" body and soul into heaven by God Himself. There's a difference.

Second, v.13 connects to v.12 Jesus was saying that no one went into heaven and came down from there so as to make known the heavenly realities.
---Ramon on 4/13/07


Steveng. You are calling the Bible a liar. Elijah was taken body and soul to heaven (II Kings 2:11). He like Enoch (Genesis 5:21-24; Hebrews 11:5), never experienced death, but instead was taken to heaven.

Because you fail to interpret NT Passages in light of the OT Passages, you calling the the Only Son of God a liar and a false teacher. How are you calling Jesus a liar, you may ask?

Simple. Jesus knew the OT, he knew that Enoch and Elijah was taken to heaven.
---Ramon on 4/12/07




#2 Jesus knew they never experienced death. What Jesus meant, contrary to your misinterpretation, is not no one had gone to heaven by his own power, except The Son of Men. He's the one who came down and will ascend back to heaven, by his own power.

I notice that you only quote half of my response, as you did to other people here, and never quote the Scriptures that is given, to support the view. This indicate that: 1)You believed that II Kings 2:11, Genesis 5:21-24, and Hebrews 11:5 are in error.
---Ramon on 4/12/07


#3. All of these passages state they were taken to heaven. However, you say these are false. So who's the one calling the Bible a liar? Like Eloy said, "God's word reads that Elijah did not die, but you [steveng] deny this truth and wrongly say that he is dead."

Jesus is the only one who, by his own power, Eternally came down from heaven and ascended back to heaven.

You falsely claim that Elijah died, and that Scriptures was wronged some how.
---Ramon on 4/12/07


#4. People, like Eloy, have tried to tell you the truth. Why don't want to accept what the Bible states? Are you, like so many people in this site, "anti-learning"?

If you don't mind Steveng, I'm going to end this conversation. Ok? I don't feel its necessary. Since you already decided to reject Scriptures, I can't say anything else. I only have 12 words to say to you.

"Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God" (Mat 22:29).

God Bless!
---Ramon on 4/13/07


Steveng, "this is a useless debate". The Word don't contradict Itself, Steven. You are looking at this all wrong. Yes Elijah was taken to Heaven [alive], like Enoch. Yes, Jesus said that no man has ascended to Heaven, God took/changed them Steven, they didn't ascend according to their own timing/power(just like the Rapture will be). Just let the Lord reason with you, and know that it don't affect your salvation, okay. God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 4/12/07


Steveng scripture cannot contradict scriputre. If you say anyone who believes Elijah went to heaven is calling Jesus a liar it is no different than saying anyone who says only Jesus went to heaven bodily is calling the author of Kings a liar. There must be some common ground between the the two scripures are we end up saying the bible contradicts itself which it can't. Someone told me those who ascend do it of their own power, those that are taken(translated) by God don't do it of their own power.
---Matthew on 4/12/07


Ramon: "Elijah was taken body and soul to heaven..." Then you are calling Jesus a liar for He said "no one ascended into heaven."
---Steveng on 4/12/07


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Jenny M. #2 After the dead come forth, their spirits, already with the Lord ( 2 Cor 5:8; Phil 1:23), are now being joined to resurrected new bodies.

The word "sleep", or "fallen asleep" is an euphemistic term used in the NT to refer to death. Jesus is coming to both raptured the saints of the Church, after they have been "transform"; and to give the saints, that are already in heaven, there permanent, and immortal bodies.
---Ramon on 4/10/07


steveng, you would rather believe Indians and dictionarys, rather than God's Word. Shame on you.
---Eloy on 4/10/07


.steveng, God's word reads that Elijah did not die, but you deny this truth and wrongly say that he is dead. I pray that you will come to believe the truth, and get saved.
---Eloy on 4/10/07


where do people get your dillusions from. NO ONE returns to God's kingdom until after the resurrection and more importantly, the judgement. you will be judged by every word, thought, action and deed you do in life. any sins you have not repented of will stain your garments red. it is false to think everyone goes back to God after death. narrow is the way and few will find the gate leading back to God. many that say lord lord will be cast OUT. broad is the way and wide is the gate for most.
---ashley on 4/10/07


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*As for Elijah, he's dead, too.*

You err. Elijah was taken body and soul to heaven (II Kings 2:11). He like Enoch (Genesis 5:21-24; Hebrews 11:5), never experienced death, but instead was taken to heaven.

*Moses is dead. God buried him on a mountaintop.*

On the Mount Of Transfiguration, Moses is seen talking with Elijah. Moses died. His soul, however, didn't "sleep" or went into in a state of "unconsciousness" as some say.
---Ramon on 4/10/07


The Christians that already died, are not in heaven. The bible says the dead in Christ shall rise first, how could they rise if they're already in heaven? Their not going to meet the ones remaining in the air, we meet them along with Jesus. As for Enoch and Elijah, I don't know where they are. I do know that they didn't die, for God took both of them. They will come back to earth to warn those that remain for a period of time. then they will die and people will rejoice of their death.
---Rebecca_D on 4/10/07


Jenny M. The souls of the faithful departed are with God in heaven, and the angels. Jude says the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints (Jude 14; probably quoted from the Book of Enoch). In 1 Thess. 4:13-17, we are told that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him. Then he states, those who are alive will not precede those who have fallen asleep.

The Lord from heaven will come down with a trumpet call and the dead in Christ will rise first.
---Ramon on 4/10/07


Ramon: "At the moment of death, your soul goes directly to heaven or hades (hell)." At the first resurrection, at Jesus' coming, the dead in Christ shall rise first... All the rest of the people will rise at the second resurrection at the end of the millinium.

Moses is dead. God buried him on a mountaintop.

As for Elijah, he's dead, too. the American Indians would say, "the spirit of the dead rides the wings of the wind..." taken from phrase dictionary.
---Steveng on 4/10/07


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"...your soul goes directly to heaven or hades(hell)...You can't come back. The Bible does have exceptions, like Moses and Elijah ...and Samuel, but all this was allowed by God himself. And its was only for a brief period." -Ramon on 4/10/07.

Brother Ramon, That wasn't Samuel, was a familiar spirit demon imitating Samuel. Think about it, how can a demon possessed medium "so-called" conjure up a holy child of God in Heaven? You know what I mean? God Bless!
---Mrs._Morgan on 4/10/07


Ramon: Do you believe that Jesus is returning only for those that are in Christ and alive at that moment? Since the righteous dead are already with Him?
---JennyM on 4/10/07


jo or joanne or who ever you are, you are treading on dangerous ground. It is impossible for your loved ones to contact you. The Bible backs this up. Be careful because Satan likes to disquise himself as an angel of light. If you are talking to them, you are opening a door to an evil spiritual realm. I know it comforts some to do this. My dad prayed to my mom after she died. It's still wrong. Now he passed on and he won't be talking until judgement day, just like the rest of us.
---J_P on 4/10/07


NO!. ITS DEMONS!!!

At the moment of death, your soul goes directly to heaven or hades (hell). Thereby, you fate is sealed. You can't come back. The Bible does have exceptions, like Moses and Elijah (Elijah was taken up, body and soul, to heaven), and Samuel, but all this was allowed by God himself. And its was only for a brief period.

Many people are decieve. They think they talking to there loved ones. If only they knew!!!
---Ramon on 4/10/07


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steveng, Yes, I believe the accurate translation I have given for the greek word, and as I have said before, it cooincides with the rest of scripture which also states that Henoch and Elijah ascended to heaven without dying a mortal death. Therefore Jesus was saying you must be born-again to enter heaven, and I know because I am the only one whom has always walked in heaven. How? Because Jesus is the very one whom created heaven.
---Eloy on 4/9/07


lee: And it is written that When Jesus returns, the dead in Christ will rise first and the living will be caught up with them. Blessed are the ones risen in the First Resurrection. The Second Resurrection, after the thousand year rein of Christ, the rest of the dead shall rise. All are dead until His return, then Those in Christ shall be alive forever. This world is only the stepping stone to a forever life. The life God origianlly intended us to be.
---Steveng on 4/9/07


Jesus stated that God is the god of the living; not the dead. He did not say that He was the god of the sleeping!

Mt. 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.
---lee on 4/8/07


Eloy: Do you really believe in your interpretation of that verse? Do you really know what it says? This verse had a dozen different interpretations 35 years ago when I was studying prophsy, including Greek and Hebrew. I found that the KJV is still the closest interpretation. Back then I used different worldly reference books, now I depend on one, and only one, reference guide - the Holy Spirit. Trust God for the interpretation not worldly reference books.
---Steveng on 4/8/07


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i believe sometimes they do to guide us into the right path and lead us to god .
---joanne on 4/8/07


There are dead people that speak on these blogs every day.

Some are dead to sin and alive to God.
Others are not.
---Carly on 4/7/07


steveng, Jesus DID NOT SAY, no one ASCENDED to heaven. Jesus DID SAY, "And no one ETERNALLY STEPPED in heaven except he out of heaven came down, the Son of man who from being in the heaven." John 3:13. Therefore your English is not translated accurately, and thus you are mistaken by not using the original Greek. My accurate translation is right and also cooincides with the rest up scripture which says Henoch and Elijah went to heaven without dying. Please read Genesis 5:23,24; II Kings 2:11,12.
---Eloy on 4/7/07


Jesus said that no man hath ascended up to heaven. John 3:13. It means just what it says. Eloy; you need to re-read this verse.
---Rebecca_D on 4/7/07


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Unless scripture contradicts scripture Elijah's trip to heaven wasn't the same as ascending, for Jesus said no one ascended before Him. Both can be believed if we understand those who ascend do it of their own power. Those who are taken(elijah)do not.

Scripture cannot contradict scripture!

2 Kings 2:11
And it came to pass, ....and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
---Matthew on 4/7/07


steveng, It's amazing what is learned when the original Holy Scriptures are studied, rather than an English version containing errors is studied. And Jesus said "And no one eternally stepped in heaven..." John 3:13
---Eloy on 4/7/07


Eloy: It's amazing what is learned when the Bible is studied. And Jesus said "And no man hath ascended up to heaven..." John 3:13
---Steveng on 4/7/07


Eloy: Besides, do you truly understand what the verse you quoted actually means? Look it up in your reference books. Or maybe take up Old English English lessons. : )
---Steveng on 4/7/07


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Lee: "..apparently God had taken him (Moses) to heaven." You are then calling Jesus a liar. Because he said that no one has ascended into heaven.
---Steveng on 4/7/07


So sorry everyone for making a mistake about Moses. Thanks for the correction.I do remember now, something about his body not being in the place where it was buried and it was not found? I will look into it.Does anyone know something? Thanks.
I agree some had power over death(bring back to life,body and soul).What I was talking about earlier was that there is no soul without a body.
---JennyM on 4/7/07


Lee, What translation did you use for Jude1:9? King James has..."Yet Michael the archangel,when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses,durst not bring against him a railing accusation,but said,The Lord rebuke thee".What God was doing there, was rebuking satan for claiming the body of Moses.If you read it in full context by reading verses 8-11, you'll see that it is talking about "filthy dreamers" and "running greedily after the error of Balaam".
---JennyM on 4/7/07


If somebody tells you that they speak to the dead and especially if they say that the dead talk to them, get far away from these people. They have the spirit of deception.
---Ron on 4/7/07


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steveng, Jesus did not say noone ascended to heaven. What Jesus said, was that nooine eternally walked in heaven except himself. "And no one eternally stepped in heaven except he out of heaven came down, the Son of man who from being in the heaven." John 3:13.
---Eloy on 4/7/07


Sorcery- wichcraft, one who claimed to have supernatural power or knowledge. The exercise of power received from evil or departed spirits to gain hidden knowledge. These practices was specifically prohibited by God.
---catherine on 4/7/07


Moses and Elijah made an appearance on the earth after death. One reason being to confirm a belief in a future state after death. >>>[They both appeared in glory] The appearance of Samuel after death was a completely unique event.He appeared in mantle he wore while on earth. [A loose outer garment or sleeveless cloak.]
---catherine on 4/7/07


When these men saw Moses and Elijah it was a vision. If you'll read Matthew 17:9 Jesus tells them not to speak of this vision to no man until the son of man be risen again from the dead. Christ was the central figure. Moses and Elijah appeared from the heavenly world, as the representatives of the Old Testament, the one of the law and the other one of prophecy, to do homeage to them who was the fulfillment of both.
---Rebecca_D on 4/7/07


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No, the dead cannot do anything. Ecclesiastes 9:5 says "..the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward..". However, demon spirits can easily immitate dead people and even speak to sound like them. Be careful, because what you want is what you will get.
---Helen_5378 on 4/7/07


Moses did indeed die and was buried. But as we see him at the mount of Transfiguration, apparently God had taken him to heaven.

Deuteronomy 31:14 And the LORD said to Moses, Behold, the days approach when you must die. Call Joshua and present yourselves in the tent of meeting, that I may commission him.

Jude 1:9 But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, ...
---lee on 4/7/07


Jenny: Moses died. Deu 34:7, he was 120 years old. Enoch and Elijah never saw death. God just took Enoch Gen 5:22-24. Elijah was caught up in a whirlwind into heaven. 2 Kings 2:11. Jesus gave us power to raise the dead, Mt 10:8. I haven't seen it done but Jesus said the works shall he do, we also can do and greater works than these. Jn 14:12. But the most important thing to remember is that Moses did see death and Enoch and Elijah didn't.
---Rebecca_D on 4/6/07


Jenny: "Moses and Elija never saw death." On the contrary, they both died. God himself said that he buried Moses on a mountaintop and gave the reason why. As for Elija, he, too, is dead. There are many phrases showing how people "kicked the bucket, bit the dust, was taken away by the wings of the wind" (an American Indian saying). A phrase dictionary shows a plethora of phrases. Besides, Jesus said no man has ascended to heaven.
---Steveng on 4/6/07


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m.p.a.: "Saul sought a Witch to raise Samuel... There is no mention in the bible that it was an evil spirit." On the contrary, a witch practices divination and speaking to the dead, and the spirit of "Samuel" ascended from beneath the ground, not descended from heaven (as most Christians believe).
---Steveng on 4/6/07


jenny, you are confusing Henoch with Moses. Though Moses was a mighty man of God, Moses died at 120 years of age (Deuteronomy 34:5-8). But Henoch was raptured by God at 365 years of age (Genesis 5:23,24). It was Henoch and Elijah that were taken to heaven without dying.
---Eloy on 4/7/07


Moses and Elija never saw death. people never found the dead bodies.They went to heaven alive ,body and spirit.Body+ Breath=living soul.
No breath=no soul/spirit.Texts:Gen 2:7 (Adam was not alive till God breathed life into him.),Gen 3:4(satan deceived Eve into believing that she could be immortal.
---jenny on 4/6/07


Part 2: Job 14:12,21 (The dead are unconscious and unaware of what is going on around them),Psalm 104:29 (reverse process of creation), Psalm 146:4 (No breath=no thoughts),Eccl 9:5,6,10(the dead know nothing),Dan 12:2 (when someone dies they are not awaken until the resurrection at the second coming).John 5:28-29(same)John 6:39(same)John 11:11-14(Jesus referred death as sleep)NB/ Lazarus never spoke about life after death.Because he knew nothing.
---jenny on 4/6/07


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Part 3: Acts 2:29,34 The apostles knew that king David had not gone to heaven at his death but was still in his tomb.(unlike Moses and Elijah).1 Cor 15-12-19 (If when someone dies they go straight to heaven, there would be no need for a resurrection. 1 Thess 4:15-17 (about resurrection) 1 Timothy 6:15-16 (THE LORD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS IMMORTALITY).
The devil plays dangerous tricks in so many ways. This deception is one of the worst. I hope these texts were useful.
---jenny on 4/6/07


Yeah, Elvis just contacted me. He wants all of you to give me $5. Go see an exhorsist or a shrink if you think that you can communicate with the dead.
---Rudy on 4/6/07


john, All I'm saying is, don't expect the dead to talk to any of us, and don't try to talk to the dead, because this is what the Pagans do. God gave us His instructions, let's just stay with that. It disturbs me when people say the dead can or may talk to us, or it's possible, because you might as well say they are Pagans, because this is what they look for. A SIGN. And this is unscriptural for this time of grace we are in. Are you a Catholic?
---Bill on 4/6/07


Bill. Thanks for your comment. I don't agree with talking to the dead I'm just answering the question jo asked. Does scripture support that the dead can do things and that we can communicate with them? Yes, the scripture does support that it can happen. I'm not saying that it's right.
---john on 4/6/07


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If you tell the right people that you talk to the dead and the dead talks to you, they might take you away, for mental problems and might just put you on bad meds. It's really a spiritual problem though. It's from the devil, and if you tell them that, they just might put you away for a long time. They are demons.
---Jason on 4/5/07


Lorra: If you would read in Mt 17:9 it says Jesus told these men to tell no man about this vision until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. 1 Jn 4:1 means that people already has these spirits and Jesus was telling us to try them to see if they be of God. These scriptures has nothing to do with talking to the dead. The same with playing with a Ouja board. It is full of evil. I know, I played with one when I was a teenager. I'll never do that again.
---Rebecca_D on 4/5/07


LET NO ONE BE FOUND AMONG YOU WHO sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or SPIRITIST OR WHO CONSULTS THE DEAD. ANY ONE WHO DOES THESE THINGS IS ''DETESTABLE'' TO THE LORD. Deuteronomy 18:10-12. The word ''DETESTABLE'' is the strongest word in the Hebrew language for what the LORD hates and rejects. No one can be involved in this an not be exposed to demons.
---Cynthia_1 on 4/5/07


Pharisee, that scripture doesn't imply don't speak to the dead because it's possible; it's because one would be speaking to demons. Also M.P.A. is correct - we are forbid to. Why, because we shouldn't be interacting with demons.
---Tommie on 4/5/07


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john, that's dangerous teaching your saying about talking to the dead and the dead talking to us. You are taking God's Word out of context. God was making a point. Elijah and Moses, Yes at that appropriate time, but not for the loved ones we lost.
---Bill on 4/5/07


why would the Bible command us not to speak with the dead if it weren't possible, wouldn't it instead say don't speak with those who appear as ghosts but aren't?

This conclusion is drawn based on a solitary verse of scripture but it denys the practical experience of many mediums, (not saying they're not decieved) nor am I equally trying to debunk what Moderator said, but we should keep an open mind and let God reveal truth to us instead of us deciding how deep and wide the truth is.
---Pharisee on 4/5/07


The dead cannot speak to us, nor can they hear any prayers. This belief is from Satan. People forget that this is a spiritual world just as much as it is a physical one. The devil is the god of this world, this is why we need to be close to Jesus.
---Phil on 4/5/07


1 John 4:1 indicates that spirits will come, but we are to test them to be certain that they are of God. My church teaches that we are forbidden to attempt contact with the dead and does warn that demons can and do mimic our loved ones.

Matthew 17:3 shows that the dead can come back and appear to the living; however, these are the exceptions not the rule, and only with God's cooperation. And even great saints or angels appearing requires discernment and testing against the scriptures.
---lorra8574 on 4/5/07


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This is really interesting since just last tonight I had a dream of a deceased relative and she gave me a note to read and I talked with her and after I made a comment she laughed which did'nt sit well in my spirit.
---pamea5839 on 4/5/07


I have known people who thought their recently dead loved ones either spoke to them or stood in the room in a comforting way. I think in the depth of grief in a person's own mind they will form the image of what they see or hear until it seems real. The mind will do some unusual things, when people are in pain, to cope with what is going on. I also do believe there are familar spirits straight from Satan that will take advantage of a weak moment.
---Darlene_1 on 4/5/07


When Saul asked the Witch of Endor to raise Samuel she did so and Samuel asked why he had been disturbed. There is no mention in the bible that it was an evil spirit or anyone other than Samuel. However, we are told NOT to do this, so whether or not we actually can is beside the point.
---m.p.a. on 4/5/07


Yes, it is possible. In 1 Sam.28:15 The prophet Samuel, who has died, is conversing with king Saul.
Elijah and Moses came down and conversed on the mount of transifguration.
Stephen, when he was being stoned said he saw Jesus standing at the right hand of the father. So to say it is not possible is is unscriptural. To say it is demonic may be correct part of the time like in Sauls case but not in Stephens. I would not discredit conversations or sightings of loved ones who have passed away.
---john on 4/5/07


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The Moderator is correct, evil spirits, can transform themselves into anyone, taking even the voice of the person, and they of course have information, because they were around when they were alive. The Bible warns us STRONGLY AGAINST THIS PRACTICE: 2 Kings 21:6.
---Cynthia_1 on 4/5/07


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