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No Salvation Without Baptism

Someone was preaching no salvation without baptism. I thought baptism was an outward sign of our salvation. Is this a false doctrine?

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It's a false doctrine. You can go to heaven without being baptized. All baptism is, you are letting the world know that hallelujah, you've been saved. And so happy that you are saved. And That's It.
---catherine on 11/20/10


There is no salvation without baptism, but salvation has nothing to do with water. Any one believer, nonbeliever, whatever, can be water baptised but only believers are baptised into the body of Christ, the HS does not place unbelievers into the body of Christ.
Paul tells us of 1 baptism, and it is a spiritual baptism, performed by the HS not by man.
---michael_e on 11/20/10


Esther 8:17 And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews, for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.
Deuteronomy 31:12 Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that [is] within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law:

Of course, this is Old Covenant.
---micha9344 on 11/2/10


//And don't forget the centurion who came to Jesus asking him to heal his PAIS//

I haven't forgot him or what he did to get Jesus to come to him(Luke 7:5)
I don't see that he was baptised.

Don't forget the Greeks that came to see Jesus Jn 12

/Roman officials were more kindly disposed to Jews than the opposite, according to the Biblical evidence.//

Where is your Biblical evidence?
---michael_e on 11/2/10


\\I don't think Roman soldiers would come to be baptised by a Jew, do you?\\

Yes, I do, because the Bible says that's what happened.

And don't forget the centurion who came to Jesus asking him to heal his PAIS.

Roman officials were more kindly disposed to Jews than the opposite, according to the Biblical evidence.

What you're saying is that you're refusing to believe the Bible.
---Cluny on 11/2/10




//You don't actually think that the Romans would have tolerated independent forces, do you? ---Cluny on 11/2/10 //

I don't think Roman soldiers would come to be baptised by a Jew, do you?

Was it not unlawful for John a Jew to keep company with any one from another nation, same as Peter said in Acts 10?

Matt 10:6 His disciples go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Matt. 15:24 Jesus goes to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

But John the Baptist was an exception?
---michael_e on 11/2/10


\\//The Roman soldiers and tax collectors who came to him for baptism. Luke 3:12 ff//

**Could Matthew have been one of these tax collectors?**

No evidence that either Matthew or Zacchaeus was.

**Were the soldiers Romans, or soldiers of Herod or Philip?
---michael_e on 11/2/10\\**

Since there were no Jewish forces (except for the Temple police), it follows they were Romans. You don't actually think that the Romans would have tolerated independent forces, do you?
---Cluny on 11/2/10


\\Someone was preaching no salvation without baptism. I thought baptism was an outward sign of our salvation. Is this a false doctrine?\\

This is an exhortation from William Tyndale's New Testament translation in The Prologe to The Romayns, *Outward workes are sygnes & witnesses of the inwarde faith

That is true.

Lets now read Rom. 6:2-3, How shal we, that are dead to sinne, liue yet therein? Knowe ye not, that all we which haue bene baptized into Iesus Christ, haue bene baptized into his death?

Verse 8, "Wherefore, if we be dead with Christ, we beleue that we shal liue also with him,".

(s, medial s)
---Kev on 11/1/10


over and over and over the bible teaches that belief in Jesus Christ as your personal savior, and that he carried your sin to the cross and was crusified for your sin. nothing you can say or do beyond that can add or detract to or from your salvation.
I implore you read the bible, study the bible, spend some time with God and find out for your self
when someone makes a statment about the bible ask for chapter and verse and check it out your self.
---enoch on 11/2/10


//The Roman soldiers and tax collectors who came to him for baptism. Luke 3:12 ff//

Could Matthew have been one of these tax collectors?
Were the soldiers Romans, or soldiers of Herod or Philip?
---michael_e on 11/2/10




//The repentant thief also died before Christ gave the commandment about baptism, too.//

What? WOW!
That is a strange thing to say. The herald of Jesus, John the Baptist, said different and even baptised Jesus before he went to the cross.
John said that he baptised with water but one was coming who would baptise with fire not water. This man is Jesus.

Refiner's(God's) fire, hello! I would rather be in the refiner's fire than a bucket of water any day.

Again someone needs to study their Bible.
---ginger on 11/2/10


\\The thief on the cross never was baptized and yet Jesus told him that he would be with him in Paradise.\\

The repentant thief also died before Christ gave the commandment about baptism, too.

**When did John baptise Gentiles?
---michael_e on 11/1/10**

The Roman soldiers and tax collectors who came to him for baptism. Luke 3:12 ff.
---Cluny on 11/1/10


The thief on the cross never was baptized and yet Jesus told him that he would be with him in Paradise. To be a follwer of Jesus and do as he did yes you should be baptized but not being baptized will not prevent you from heaven.

And Yes Baptism is a outward showing of an inward going on inside of you
---joyce on 11/1/10


//Judging from their names and the fact they were in Corinth, they were doubtless Gentiles.//
Acts 18:8 And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue,...

And St. Paul also baptized Gentiles in Ephesus--Acts 19:1-6.
Acts19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

When did John baptise Gentiles?
---michael_e on 11/1/10


//Water baptism is commanded by Jesus, even as Jesus himself has set for us the example and Jesus was baptized IN THE WATER for all to follow him//

Matt.3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,6. And WERE baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

WHO WAS JESUS FOLLOWING?
Matt. 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

Why was The Apostle Paul Not COMMANDED to baptise?
---michael_e on 10/31/10


\\1 Cor.1:14-16..Crispus, Gaius, Stephanas..
Jews or Gentiles?
---michael_e on 10/31/10\\

Judging from their names and the fact they were in Corinth, they were doubtless Gentiles.

And St. Paul also baptized Gentiles in Ephesus--Acts 19:1-6.

Quit trying to make water baptism just for Jews, michael_e. It's not working.
---Cluny on 10/31/10


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Water baptism is commanded by Jesus, even as Jesus himself has set for us the example and Jesus was baptized IN THE WATER for all to follow him. If you want to lie and say that water baptism is nothing and you refuse his command, then you stay condemned, and there is no salvation for you, none. But if you want salvation then repent from your blasphemy of the scripture, and obey the Commandment of the Lord God Jesus Christ and get WATER baptized just as he commands. period.
---Eloy on 10/31/10


When did the ascended Christ command the Apostle to the Gentiles to baptise?

Matt. 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:(who was Jesus speaking to? Matt.28:16)the eleven apostles to Israel

Acts 10:48 Peter commands them to be baptised, after they received the HS, compare to Acts 2:38.

1 Cor.1:14-16..Crispus, Gaius, Stephanas..
Jews or Gentiles?
---michael_e on 10/31/10


\\I thought baptism was an outward sign of our salvation. Is this a false doctrine?\\

Yep.

It is.
---Cluny on 10/30/10


Someone was preaching no salvation without baptism. I thought baptism was an outward sign of our salvation. Is this a false doctrine?


I would recommend reading Actes 8:34-38, AND Luke 23:39-43.
---Kev on 10/30/10


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Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Ok let's stop the madness.
ALL NATIONS ould not be israel only, and the record in Acts shows that peter baptized cornelous' household, and that paul also baptized some people

Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

1 Corinthians 1:14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius,

1 Corinthians 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
---francis on 10/30/10


\\When did He command the Apostle to the Gentiles to baptise?//
Simple question.
So the answer is, Paul had no such command as the Apostles to Israel had.
You would think that such an important commandment as He Gave the 12 Apostles to Israel would have been passed on to this Apostle to the Gentiles.

"For by ONE SPIRIT are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free, and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."
The Holy Spirit doesn't baptize with water, so it is plain what baptism is important in this age of grace.
---michael_e on 10/29/10


While St. Paul rarely baptized, that being the duty of the resident bishop or elders, he DID baptize Crispus, Gaius, and the household of Stephanas (which would have included slaves and children), as 1 Cor 1 (the chapter you quoted) makes clear in verses 14 and 16.

And he DOES talk about those who had been baptized by others besides himself.
---Cluny on 10/29/10

to add to what cluny has correctly stated:
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Acts 19:5 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
---francis on 10/29/10


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\\When did He command the Apostle to the Gentiles to baptise?

Rom.11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
(1 Tim 2:7 2 Tim 1:11)

1 Cor. 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
---michael_e on 10/29/10\\

While St. Paul rarely baptized, that being the duty of the resident bishop or elders, he DID baptize Crispus, Gaius, and the household of Stephanas (which would have included slaves and children), as 1 Cor 1 (the chapter you quoted) makes clear in verses 14 and 16.

And he DOES talk about those who had been baptized by others besides himself.
---Cluny on 10/29/10


////francis on 10/29/10 Are you kidding?//

When did He command the Apostle to the Gentiles to baptise?

Rom.11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
(1 Tim 2:7 2 Tim 1:11)

1 Cor. 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
---michael_e on 10/29/10


michael e, you got it right.

You show the example of examining scripture using the elementary principle of asking and answering questions with WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY, and TO WHOM.

Unfortunately, many people do not use this principle even though it is elementary.
---Rob on 10/29/10


Paul said he was not sent to baptize. Does that mean there was no salvation in Paul's message? It does if you make baptism an absolute necessity for salvation. Think about it. Jesus himself baptize nobody, you not find that fact very interesting if baptism is an absolute necessity for salvation?
---mima on 10/29/10


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When did he command the Apostle to the Gentiles to baptise?
---michael_e on 10/29/10
Are you kidding?
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


Acts 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him.

Acts 16:15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought [us], saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide [there]. And she constrained us.
---francis on 10/29/10


Mk 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven(APOSTLES TO ISRAEL) as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them,(THE 11 APOSTLES TO ISRAEL) Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

When did he command the Apostle to the Gentiles to baptise?
Since He did send the Gentile Apostle to the Gentiles, but didn't make water baptism a part of his ministry, why should we as Gentiles believe we should water baptise?
---michael_e on 10/29/10


Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.


When God ( FATHER, SON, OR HOLY GHOST) commands anything, it is a SIN not to obey.
As long as you refuse to obey you are unyielding to God and living in sin.

Reference such examples as Aron's son making their own fire, Uzzah touching the ark, Lot's wife looking back.
---francis on 10/29/10


It is sin to think and say that any commandment from God is unnecessary for salvation: for quite the contrary, there is no salvation for disobedience. God commands baptism, and baptism is one of the fundamental duties commanded in the Great Comission: and to disobey his command is condemnation, and not salvation. "And he said to them, Go all you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature, whom obeys and is baptized will be saved, but whom not obeys will be condemned." Mk.16:15,16.
---Eloy on 10/29/10


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Just get baptized, and stop questioning his commandment.
---Eloy on 9/29/10
---francis on 10/29/10


We have no reason, scripturally, to believe that a person is not truly saved unless baptized. Those who teach this, insist you be baptized in water immediatly in their church.
I personally think it is better to wait a little while until you see the changes God has made in your life, and thoroughly understand what Salvation means.
---Donna66 on 10/28/10


// I thought baptism was an outward sign of our salvation. Is this a false doctrine?//
Yes this is a false doctrine, not backed by scripture.
Paul said there is one Baptism for the Church, the BOC, and it is spiritual, performed by the Holy Spirit, placing the individual into the BOC.(Eph. 4:5,1 Cor. 12:13)
---michael_e on 10/28/10


Roy, you said,
"there is no more water baptism to receive the Holy Spirit as we are under grace we are being saved by our faith an we are empowered with the Holy Spirit."
While that is true the Holy Spirit baptizes us, but that is a Spiritual baptism where all are made into one body with Christ as the Head. The spiritual Church of Christ. But water baptism is requested of all believers as a command by Christ. "Make disciples baptizing them "in the name" of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"
That is a baptism of works, our works, in water which symbolizes our committment to Christ.
---MarkV. on 10/1/10


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//there is no more water baptism to receive the Holy Spirit as we are under grace we are being saved by our faith an we are empowered with the Holy Spirit.
---Royll on 9/30/10 //

Amen Roy11
---michael_e on 10/1/10


there is no more water baptism to receive the Holy Spirit as we are under grace we are being saved by our faith an we are empowered with the Holy Spirit.
---Royll on 9/30/10


Amen, Eloy, just follow your heart and stop complaining whether they should or not get water baptized. If your heart tells you to follow Christ, you will get baptized, if it doesn't tell you, you don't follow Christ. It's really pretty simple. Your heart will tell you so.
---MarkV. on 9/30/10


Just get baptized, and stop questioning his commandment.
---Eloy on 9/29/10


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John 1:33 the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. (Jesus, though he never baptised with water, the baptiser, placing those believers into the HS)
Nation of Israel

1Cor. 12:13 For by one Spirit are WE ALL baptized into one body... (The Holy Spirit is baptiser placing believers into the body of Christ)
Jew and Gentile alike
---michael_e on 9/25/10


Both Harold and micheal e are correct.
There are two baptisms.
The baptism by water and the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
The baptism of the Holy Ghost does not come automatic.
The word said tarry in Jerusalem until ye be endued with power from on high.
The Lord also told Peter that "when he was converted" he should strengthen his brethren. Peter was already following the Lord at that time.
Many think the baptism of the Holy Ghost is automatic and while the Spirit of God may move upon them (lead them to Christ, witness, attend church, etc) they do not have that second baptism that baptizes them into one Spirit.
Sadly, that is one of many reasons there is so much division and heresy.
---Frank on 9/25/10


The great commission, make disciple (get people saved) then baptize, then teach them the doctrines. Baptism is the first public witness of ones salvation. I think it is a shame that we have taken this and moved it from the public sight and hid it in the buildings. I would love one Sunday morning to take a bus of new believers and other Christians to the local ocean beach, park where everyone will see, march and sing till we reach the water, then baptize the new believers. What a witness that would be.
Acts 2:38:"for the remission of sins." When I was young I went to the store for my mother, not to acquire her but because I love her. Baptism does not bring salvation, but show our love for the one who gave it.
---Harold on 9/24/10


To be placed into the body of Christ baptism is a must, but no water involved

Ephes.4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,


1Cor. 12:13 For by one Spirit are WE ALL baptized into one body...
---michael_e on 9/22/10


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There's No argument, but some will continue.

Jesus said Himself, Mark 16 v 16 & that's good.
---Lawrence on 8/19/10


TS- Jesus did this for All who can not for practical reasons be Baptized with water in a Public Profession of Faith...Yet Jesus saved the Thief on the Cross and granted him His own Baptism. "Born of water and of the Spirit" to enter the Kingdom when the Lord returns!


How do you know that the thief was not baptize?
---Ruben on 5/10/07


Duane, amen, and if you truly believed that you would not pay lipservice to your own interpretation of scripture and instead be obedient to Christ in all He taught and observe and follow His example. Jesus died for our sins, for every man, woman, and child on earth 1 John 2:2. Yet, not all are saved. But all can be, if they believe in Christ enough to take up their cross daily and follow Him.
---lorra8574 on 5/9/07


When asked by the jews, on the day of pentacost, ("Men and Brethern, what shall we do?"), in reply to Peter's accusation that they had killed the Messiah, Peter replied "Repent and be baptised [why?]for the remission of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." What do you do with a dead body? You bury it. What do you do with someone who has "died to sin"? You bury it in a "tomb" made out of water.
---Bruce on 5/9/07


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There is no greater belief in Jesus Christ than that of the Devil and all of his minions who know Christ all too well. Are they saved? No, because while they believe they refuse to be obedient to the Word.
---lorra8574 on 5/9/07


When Jesus Commanded baptism and said, Whom not obeys will be condemned, he knew whom would not obey and whom would not get baptized. And thusly they will be condemned. If God said, All whom obeys and puts a handful of dirt upon their head will be saved, but whom not obeys will be condemned: would you obey? or would say in yourself, no all I have to do is believe and I will be saved? We obey not merely because we want to be saved, but because we love the Lord and follow his word, and we want to please him
---Eloy on 4/17/07


Jesus was Baptized, symbolic of the washing away of sin. Yet Jesus was sinless.

Jesus did this for All who can not for practical reasons be Baptized with water in a Public Profession of Faith...Yet Jesus saved the Thief on the Cross and granted him His own Baptism. "Born of water and of the Spirit" to enter the Kingdom when the Lord returns!
---TS on 4/17/07


Has anyone read...by HIS LIFE we are saved???
---duane on 4/16/07


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Baptism is on outward sign of an inward change. Down with the old and up with the new. Baptism is not needed for salvation. It is by the blood of Christ that we are saved. Hope this helps. God bless you.
---Bernie on 4/16/07


1 Cor 1:17. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel not with wisdom of words, less the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. Baptism is showing good conscience toward God, 1 Pe 3:21
---Rebecca_D on 4/16/07


Catherine - Baptism does not save anybody. It is Jesus Christ in His sacrificial death of Himself on the Cross and the shedding of His Blood that saves.
---Helen_5378 on 4/16/07


There is no blood in baptism and therefore baptism can not wash away sins.
The jailor asked "what must I do to be saved?" The answer was "believe". He then was baptized. But he was saved first. The Eunuch was saved first and then baptized. Churches that teach that you can't be saved unless you are baptized have to skirt around those Biblical examples.
Was Jesus lost when he was 29 years old and still not baptized?
---john on 4/16/07


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All of the Persons blogged that I read on Baptism I liked. Now, I know you don't need my approval. Anyways, from the way I study Baptism, Jesus was baptised to set an example for His followers. And this was the main reason. Have a Pleasant Day!
---catherine on 4/16/07


1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
---Exzucuh on 4/15/07


The way of the most is neither the best, the wisest, nor the safest way to follow. Better to follow the eight in the ark.Noah's Salvation in the ark upon the water prefigured the Salvation of all good Christians by baptism. The Sacrament of baptism, rightly received, is a means and a pledge of Salvation. The external participation of baptism will save no man. [There must be the answer of a good conscience towards God].
---catherine on 4/15/07


God could have just said, everybody is saved I forgive them, lets let bygones be bygones, No! he sent his Son and by faith with works he went to the cross so your burden would be light and your yoke would be easy, and with a rebellious attitude many will not accept this way and request of God to believe on his Son and be baptized in his name because they love their knowledge and mans doctrine that rationalizes everything God does and sends people to hell.
---Exzucuh on 4/15/07


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Jesus Commanded, "Go you all therefore, and teach all nations, batizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; whom obeys and is baptized will be saved, but whom not obeys will be condemned." Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16.
---Eloy on 4/15/07


If baptism were unnecessary, then the Lord himself would not have Commanded all to be baptized and he himself would not have been baptized, but the truth is he did Command it and he himself was baptized as a witness to all that he fulfills all righteousness. He that obeys and is BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED; but he that obeys not will be damned." Mark 16:16. Thus, disobedience will not enter into kingdom of God.
---Eloy on 4/15/07


Everything, or better said, every Command of Christ is qualified by Christ. In otherwords, if a person is not baptized, the deciding factor on whether they are saved or not saved depends upon "why not" are they not baptized. If they have refused baptism for no good reason, then they are damned for disobedience to Christ's Commandment to be baptized; but if they have not had an opportunity to be baptized then are they saved, for God is not unjust.
---Eloy on 4/15/07


Matthew 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?Matthew 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

If Jesus had to be baptized to fulfill all righteousness you do to.
---Exzucuh on 4/15/07


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Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Baptism can only be after your profession you believe Jesus is the Son of God, If the eunuch had not believed Phillip would not have baptized him.
---Exzucuh on 4/15/07


Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

Baptism cannot be separated from faith in the Son of God it is to fulfill all righteousness on the part of the believer and be a partaker in his death burial and resurrection.
Jews were saved by the faith and covenant of Abraham but still had to do sacrifices out of obedience to God.
---Exzucuh on 4/15/07


Acts 2:37-38 , Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Their repentance was to change their mind about who they believed Jesus was and believe he is the Son of God and obey God to be baptized in his name. Faith without works is dead. anyone can say I love you but action proves it.
---Exzucuh on 4/15/07


When Jesus came to His world every person that believed on Him in Him were saved. Now because of His death and resturrection we depend on His blood to save us. It is all in the blood, this is where so many people is going to miss heaven. THE BLOOD. I have a great testimony to this very fact. When God saved me I actually felt His blood run through me. What a Salvation I experienced.
---catherine on 4/15/07


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Well, I donot understand what business it would be to anyone. But I will tell you once God saves you, you are saved. Baptism is only an outward sign. There are lots and lots of baptisms of which noone has truly been saved which, I consider a mockery of God and to God. Not to mention that God does not recogize it. Actually He hates it.
---catherine on 4/14/07


greetings.Many people continue to stretch the truth about truth.Who was it that asked the point blank question,What must i do to be saved"?The saving truth is 'stretched' into doctrines and drug through baptismal waters.There are many in Jesus' day who experienced the saving truth that they there after entered in to the Kingdom of God.Even the doctrines of atonement are not the saving truth for Jesus never said it was how to be saved but Paul's 'gospel' did and many follow it
---earl on 4/14/07


Susie, my Church teaches that Baptism is essential for salvation because that is what the Bible teaches. However, we also acknowledge baptism by desire, whereby a person who was unable to be physically baptised for whatever reason is still able to be saved through Christ because of that person's desire to be baptised into Christ. Through Christ, all things are possible.
---lorra8574 on 4/14/07


Baptism is not requried to seal you being saved. It is an outward sign and visible for salvation. If one is born again, I believe God puts in them the desire to be baptized. Baptism is a death unto sin and a new life in righteousness.
---Rebecca_D on 4/14/07


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If baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation to take place why do we find this statement made in John 4:2 "(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)." This statement is in the Bible for a reason. I believe the reason is to show that baptism is not necessary for salvation to take place.
---Mima on 4/14/07


It is an outward sign of your belief in Jesus. Some will tell you it is neccessary and some will tell you it's not. Search the Word. Ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. He will guide onto all truth.
---betty8468 on 4/13/07


If baptism was a requirement for salvation, then the thief on the cross could not have gone to Paradise with Jesus.
---Susie on 4/13/07


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