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Was Mohammed the Prophet a false prophet? What makes Mohammed a false prophet?

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jesus is my lord and saviour
---Ivan on 2/14/08


Sheila: Mohammed killed christians in his trek across Fez, Morraco in northern Africa then dipped their hats in the blood of these same christians. This is where the Masons get the "red fez" from.
This is all documented and I have the Masonic books that document it all.
---Chipper on 1/31/08


William quoted "the Arabs worshiped the moon god whose name was Allah"

Question:
What is the significance of the crescent moon in Islam?

Answer:
The Qur'an answers this question before you asked it. Read this verse:

"They ask you about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage" (Qur'an 2:189).
---Sheila on 12/21/07


Question:

Why does Islam follow a lunar calendar?

Answer:

In both the Jewish and the Islamic religious festivals are regulated by the lunar calendar. Jews and Muslims have kept to these regulations which they believe to be from God. Why does Christianity follow a solar calendar?
---Sheila on 12/21/07


Muhammad, peace be upon him, claimed to be a servant, messenger and prophet of the Almighty God, the same God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, David and Solomon and of Jesus, the Christ, son of Mary (peace be upon them all). He claimed he was receiving revelation from Almighty God (Allah is God in Arabic) through the Arch Angel Gabriel, calling it the Recitation (Quran).
---Sheila on 12/21/07




The Bible itself is proof enough of the trinity or triune Godhead.
The Old Testament is the dispensation of God the Father.
The New Testament is the dispensation of the Son, Jesus Christ.
and since the ascention of Jesus into heaven, we are living in the dispensation of the Holy Spirit.
---Chipper on 8/9/07


1/Rita

Thank you for pointing out that MANY of MOST people (the caps are your words) who go to church are not Christians. Also,

YOU WROTE: Accepting Christ as one's Saviour and Lord is the only way to obtain the name Christian.

Do you know if Hitler accepted Christ as Savior and Lord and was a Christian like you and others on Christianet who use this litmus test? Do you know if Hitler accepted Christ as Savior and Lord
---I_AM_I on 7/30/07


2/Rita

and then committed all those mass murders after his conversion? If Hitler committed those mass murders and then accepted Christ as Savior and Lord on his death bed or shortly before he died, did he die a believing Christian? Was he *saved* before he died? What does *accepting* mean? Doesn*t it mean more than I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE? Is a Christian only a believer in Christ? Should a Christian QUESTION
---I_AM_I on 7/30/07


3/Rita

his or her belief, including the belief in Christ? If a Christian should not question his or her belief in Christ, WHY NOT?
---I_AM_I on 7/30/07


1/Helen,

Although I was baptized and got married in the RCC, I am not a defender of the RCC and any other church or religion. I defend the TRUTH, as revealed to me, and I do not play favorites with any religion or its denomination or sect! However, MURDERS and other atrocities were also committed by PROTESTANTS and people of other religions, including Judaism and Islam! The same way you are CRITICAL of the RCC, which is commendable, is the same
---I_AM_I on 7/30/07




2/Helen
way you should be critical of your own denomination or sect. As you CLEARLY know, judgment by fire or baptism by fire begins at the house of God, i.e., Christianity with all its numerous denominations or sects. In a non-religious context, judgment or baptism by fire begins AT HOME or WITHIN EACH OF US. We must first be critical of our own belief or faith in order to be AT-ONE with God. Otherwise, we merely regurgitate our INDOCTRINATION!
---I_AM_I on 7/30/07


People are not Christians just because someone else considers them to be so. Most church goers call themselves Christians, most non-church goers call their church-going neighbours and relatives Christians but many of these people are not Christians. Giving some kind of allegiance to the Catholic church does not mean that Hitler was a Christian. Accepting Christ as one's Saviour and Lord is the only way to obtain the name Christian.
---RitaH on 7/30/07


Lari S - So you think Hitler was a Christian. How do you explain then that he was a mass murderer and that he committed suicide? But then the RCC has been guilty of just about every crime, including murder, over it's centuries of darkness.
---Helen_5378 on 7/30/07


More revisionist rubbish from Lari. She ignores the fact that the Nazis planned to exterminate Christianity, as amply documented at Nuremberg.

The Nazis despised Christianity for two main reasons: (1) It was Jewish, (2) it taught sanctity of life and care for the weak, undermining their evolutionary eugenics policies.

Pope Pius XII saved more Jews than Hitler, as documented in The Myth of Hitler's Pope by Rabbi David Dalin.
---Ktisophilos on 7/30/07


While Pius XII was not Hitler's Pope, Hitler did have a cleric: the Muslim Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini. al-Husseini spent the war years with Hitler, recruited Bosnian Muslims for the SS, and collaborated with Eichmann on the Final Solution.

Hitler's Mufti passed on his murderous Jew-hatred to his favorite student and relative Mohammed Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini, better known as Yasser Arafat.
---Ktisophilos on 7/30/07


Sure thing Lari Hitler was a Christian & he attended church with Yogi bear, Captain Marvel, Ponce de Leon & Isaac Assimov.

You are a born entertainer Lari. Next thing you will say Osama Bib Laden is a TeleEvangelist.
---Warwick on 7/30/07


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jerry6593: Muslims believe that Jesus was a true prophet, just like Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses (but that Muhammed is a greater prophet). They also believe VERY strongly that Jesus was NOT the Son of God, because to them, it is inconceivable that God could have a son. On this point alone, Islam is fundamentally incompatible with Christianity.
---Mark on 7/30/07


1) "Lari, anyone can claim to be Christian."-Ktisophilos

Ktisophilos, Hitler not only believe that Jesus was his lord and savior but, he was recognized by the Catholic Church as a Christian.He was born,raised, baptised and died a Catholic.Hitler was never excommunicated or condemned by the Catholic Church.His contemporaries, friends, Protestant ministers and Catholics priests, including the Vatican, thought of Hitler as a Christian.
---Lari_S on 7/29/07


2) In fact,the Vatican signed a Concordat with Hitler and his Nazi government on July 20th 1933 which legitimize and endorsed The Nazi Government in the eyes of the world.Hitler also believed in the Bible and called it a "Monumental History of Mankind." The Mein Kampf was never placed in the Catholic Church's Index of Forbidden Books in which Catholics are forbidden to read.The Nazi party implemented a "Positive Christianity" program within their ideology and never removed it.
---Lari_S on 7/29/07


I find it interesting that prior to Mohammed, the Arabs worshiped the moon god whose name was Allah. One of their primary acts of worship was to sacrifice their children to Allah. Today, the Arabs still worship Allah. Many Muslim mosques and the flags of a number of Muslim countries feature the symbol of the crescent moon, and they still sacrifice their children to Allah as suicide bombers.
---William on 7/29/07


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Rabbi Dean,it is a shame that you choose to play word games in regards to the meaning of Echad used in the Shema(Deut. 6:4).Please anawer these questions?

What is the standard Hebrew word for the number one? Echad or Yachid

Did the Hebrew writer of Deut. 6:4 use Echad in the context this scripture to mean simply one or compound unity(Trinity-God is 3 persons)?

Are you implying that the Shema and the Hebrew Bible(Torah)contain the doctrine of Trinity(God is 3 persons)? Yes or No
---Lari_S on 7/28/07


LariS-The Shema uses the word ECHAD (ONE GIVEN SET) NOT YACHAD (ONE, SINGULAR). The Shema CANNOT be used as a source for your argument since the word used in Hebrew has a different connotation than the one you expressed.
---Rabbi_Dean on 7/27/07


LariS-Also, an example of ECHAD is in Mattityahu 3:16: "As soon as Yeshua had been immersed, He came up out of the water, at that moment heaven was opened, He saw the Spirit of God coming down upon Him like a dove (the Ruach Ha Kodesh [Holy Spirit]). and a voice from heaven (Adonai [God]) said, "This is my Son (Yeshua [Jesus]) whom I love, I am well pleased with him. Looks pretty much like the ECHAD of the Shema to me.
---Rabbi_Dean on 7/27/07


No one will get to Heaven worshipping God,no matter what you call Him,unless they also accept Christ as the Son of God. God Almighty creator of Heaven and Earth and Father of Jesus receives no one unless they come to Him by believing Jesus is the Christ Savior/Son of God who died for our sins and rose again.That is the only way to reach God. All religions without Jesus as mediator between God and man are in vain.
---Darlene_1 on 7/25/07


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1) Ktisophilos, here is the Shema that Jesus and Moses taught and believed in. As you can see there is no Trinity(God is 3 persons-Father,Son and Holy Spirit) in this declaration of faith(Shema).

SHEMA YISRAEL
Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.
Blessed be the name of the glory of His kingdom forever and ever.
You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart,with all your soul and with all your might. And these words which I command you today shall be on your heart.
---Lari_S on 7/25/07


2) You shall teach them thoroughly to your children, and you shall speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road, when you lie down and when you rise up. You shall bind them as a sign upon your arm, and they shall be for a reminder between your eyes. And you shall write them upon the doorposts of your house and upon your gates.

Ktisophilos, the Shema(Deut 6:4 and Mark 12:29) doesn't say,

"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God who is 3 persons, is one Lord:"
---Lari_S on 7/25/07


If all religions worshipped the same God under different names, there would be no idolatry, no false prophets, and no false religions. So this should answer your question.>>>Note: Any religion that denies the Father and the Son is an "anti-Christ" religion. So that should answer you question.
---catherine on 7/24/07


Ktisophilos,it is a fact that Jesus' Bible(Torah-OT)doesn't teach or contain the doctrine of Trinity.The New Catholic Encyclopedia states,

"The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament."

The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics states,

"There is in the Old Testament no indication of distinctions in the Godhead, it is an anachrism to find either the doctine of Incarnation or that of the Trinity in its pages."
---Lari_S on 7/24/07


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Ktisophilos,it is a fact that Jesus' Bible(Torah-OT)doesn't teach or contain the doctrine of Trinity.The New Catholic Encyclopedia states,

"The doctrine of the Trinity is not taught in the Old Testament."

The Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics states,

"There is in the Old Testament no indication of distinctions in the Godhead, it is an anachrism to find either the doctine of Incarnation or that of the Trinity in its pages."
---Lari_S on 7/24/07


Lari, anyone can claim to be Christian. Just look at the Klintons! But Hitler's Darwinian ideas permeated Mein Kampf and "justified" his racial and eugenic policies. And his pretence might disarm certain types (not unlike the naive who think the Klintons are genuine Christians) as he worked to overthrow Christianity. This he despised, because it protects the weak and has a Jewish saviour.
---Ktisophilos on 7/23/07


The Bible plainly tells us that anyone who doesn't teach Jesus Christ as son of God is the spirit of anti-christ. The bible also tells us that anyone who follows the anti-christ is doomed to hell fire. No matter what a religion follows if it isn't Jesus Christ,son of God,crucified,redeemer,risen,alive for evermore that religion is in vain,for no one goes to God except through Jesus. Even prayers are to be to God in Jesus Name. All religions who discard Jesus as God's son,discards their chance for Heaven.
---Darlene_1 on 7/23/07


2) Hitler always stated he believed in Christianity(Catholic) and never mentions Darwinism.Pulitzer Prize winner John Toland(Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography)quotes Adolph Hitler to Gen. Gerhard Engel in 1941,

"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."
---Lari_S on 7/23/07


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Lari S.: Do Muslims believe that Jesus was a true prophet of God? Yes or No?

Do Muslims adhere to the teachings of Jesus? Yes or No?

Are Muslims true to their faith? Yes or No?
---jerry6593 on 7/21/07


-1-
Is 44: Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? you are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yes, there is no God, I know not any.

You are a liar, Muhammed is a prophet for a non-god, and Allah does not exist.
---a_servant on 7/20/07


-2-
Jn 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Who murders more innocents than Muslims?

You should repent & stop serving the murdering devil. Christ will forgive you, and give you love. Allah NEVER promised you.
---a_servant on 7/20/07


Lari s: you appear to be the one with the superior knowledge of all mankind when it comes to the corrupted scripture's of the Christian Bible so the burden is on you to prove your statements of the "corrupted spurious "verse's in the Bible as these two words seem to be your answer to all questions. so make your statement and prove your points. Please.( I don't do grade school true or false and yes and no )
---Johannes on 7/20/07


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A.) The Shema (Deut 6:4-9)says ," Hear O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One. Blessed is the name of His glorious kingdom for all eternity." The word that was used for one is ECHAD, which means ONE GIVEN SET...NOT YACHAD which means ONE, SINGULAR.
---Rabbi_Dean on 7/20/07


B.)This idea is carried out in Mattityahu 3:16: "As soon as Yeshua had been immered, he came up out of the eater, At that moment heaven was opened, he saw the Spirit of God coming down upon him like a dove (the Ruach Ha Kodesh [Holy Spirit]). and a voice from heaven (Adonai [God]) said, "This is my son (Yeshua [Jesus]) whom I love, I am well please with him. HaShem called Him Son, and not just another son of creation.
---Rabbi_Dean on 7/20/07


"The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19"-Johannes

Johannes, are you aware that Matthew 28:19 is a corrupted, forged, fabricated and spurious verse in the Bible? Yes or No

Are you aware that Jesus never used or said this corrupted Trinitarian Baptism Formula? Yes or No

Are you aware that this spurious verse is a second century invention by the Church of Rome? Yes or No
---Lari_S on 7/20/07


The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19,
Theophilus of Antioch was the first one to use the word Trinity.
It is the attribute of God, of the most high and almighty and of the living God, not only to be everywhere, but also to see and hear all, for he can in no way be contained in a place. . . . The three days before the luminaries were created are types of the Trinity: God, his Word, and his Wisdom (To Autolycus 2:15 [A.D. 181]).
---Johannes on 7/19/07


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Lari: the Bible contains the doctrine of the Trinity. It matters not that the word is not used, since that word was just a compact description of the biblical doctrine.
---Ktisophilos on 7/19/07


Lari: Hitler was an ardent Darwinian: read From Darwin to Hitler by Prd. Richard Weikart, a specialist in modern European history who lived in Germany for years. The Nazis also planned to exterminate Christianity, as shown by prosecutor Gen. Wm. Donovan at the Nuremberg trials. Rutgers has the documents online.
---Ktisophilos on 7/19/07


Lari: Warwick has documented that Stalin became an atheist after reading Darwin. It was his atheistic beliefs that drove his mass murders and bulldozing of churches.
---Ktisophilos on 7/19/07


Lari S.: Do Muslims believe that Jesus was a true prophet of God? Yes or No?

Do Muslims adhere to the teachings of Jesus? Yes or No?

Are Muslims true to their faith? Yes or No?
---jerry6593 on 7/17/07


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1)"A study of history shows Islam is & has always been a conquering religion. Islam was spread by conquest- nations were given the option-convert or die."-Warwick

Warwick,it is a shame that you subscribe to the distorted propaganda and myths about Prophet Muhummad in particular and Islam in general.FYI,many world renowned,prominent and intelligent people views are 100 percent contrary to yours.
---Lari_S on 7/17/07


Mohammed is a false prophet, because his teachings do NOT line up with the HOLY BIBLE.
---Leslie on 7/16/07


Muslims do not believe that Jesus died on the cross.
They believe that God substituted Judas for Jesus on the cross.
These people are really messed up.
---Chipper on 7/16/07


Lari S. Muhammad was a thief and a murderer of innocent people. The world today is full of his followers who display the same mindset.

Muslims claim that Jesus was a true prophet of God. In contrast to Muhammad, He never stole or killed anyone. If they really believe that He was a true prophet, then why don't Muslims live by the words and examples of Jesus?
---jerry6593 on 7/15/07


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Many people refer to themselves as Christians. Hitler and Stalin might have been involved in church attendance in some way but that doesn't make them Christians. Christians don't do what they did.
---RitaH on 7/15/07


LariS- Consider this quote of Stalin's.

'Reading Darwin had an enormous effect on me. It corroborated my defiance of God and inspired me to systematically break all the ten commandments which I now realized were only chains. Though I had stolen and lied before, I now stole and lied with a higher purpose-freedom of self. And the effects on my political philosophy were equally lasting.

Historians of the future may even conclude that Darwinism + Leninism = Stalinism.'
Cont.
---Warwick on 7/14/07


1) "I cannot understand how anyone can gloss this over and claim that Muhammed has been a benefit to the world, any more than Hitler or Stalin."-Warwick

Warwick,your comments manifests your distorted and bias opinions in regards to Prophet Muhummad's great impact and influence on humanity.It is ironic that you would compare Muhummad to two Christians(Hitler and Stalin).
---Lari_S on 7/14/07


2) Hitler was born and baptized a Catholic and Stalin was raised in the Georgian Othodox Christian Church.He also studied to be a priest at Tiflis seminary and sang in the local church.It is a fact that their Christian education helped influence, mold and form the mind of these two men.
---Lari_S on 7/14/07


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Lari S.-"The term "Trinity" is not a Biblical term"

Neither is the term Bible.
---Matthew on 7/14/07


1)The Trinity is not a Biblical term or doctrine.The Encyclopedia of Religion states,

"Exegetes and theologians today are in agreement that the Hebrew Bible does not contain a doctrine of the Trinity ...exegetes and theologians agree that the New Testament also does not contain an explicit doctrine of the Trinity."
---Lari_S on 7/13/07


2)The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia states,

"The term "Trinity" is not a Biblical term, and we are not using Biblical language when we define what is expressed by it as the doctrine that there is one only and true God, but in the unity of the Godhead there are three coeternal and coequal Persons, the same in substance but distinct in subsistence."
---Lari_S on 7/13/07


Ktisophilos,it is a shame that you have cowardly dodged and avoided these questions.

1.Does the Shema contain the Trinity(God is three persons)? Yes or No

2.Does Jesus' Bible(Torah-OT)contain the doctrine of Trinity(God is three persons)? Yes or No
---Lari_S on 7/14/07


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Lari..s:
Although you will not find the word "trinity" or "triune" in the Bible, the concept is taught over and over again.
God is father, Jesus Christ is His only begotten son, and the Holy Ghost (Spirit) is the Spirit of God who has come to live in our hearts and to teach and comfort us ... since Jesus asscended back to His Father in heaven.
---Chipper on 7/13/07


Every prophet of God came to proclaim the coming of Christ and to warn Gods people of their sinful ways. Mohammed rejects Christ as the son of God and teaches that Christ never died on the Cross. The Word of God states that if any one denys that Jesus Christ is the son of God then he is of the Anti-Christ which makes him a false Prophet. The angel that appeared to Mohammed was no Gabriel it was Lucifer himself.
---Marcia on 7/9/07


Ktisophilos,thank you for agreeing with the truth about Jesus believing in the Shema (the absolute belief in only one Almighty Creator).Please answer these questions?

1.Does the Shema contain the Trinity(God is three persons)? Yes or No

2.Does Jesus' Bible(Torah-OT)contain the doctrine of Trinity(God is three persons)? Yes or No
---Lari_S on 7/8/07


Satan & his servants deal in thought & lies.

Christ & His servants deal in faith & Truth.

Ignore those who speak against what Christ has told you to do & believe. They intend to lure you to your death.

Look at the globe, who murders more innocents than Muslims?

Jn 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him..
---a_servant on 7/7/07


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Lari, I "admitted" nothing, because I have never used this verse in the first place! This is easy to check on the other Trinity threads here. So showing that this verse is spurious does absolutely nothing for the anti-trinitarian tirade.
---Ktisophilos on 7/6/07


Any person who leads people away from the truth into error are of the anti-christ and are a deceiver. Mohammed is one of the Prophets who will be thrown in the lake of fire for causing millions to be led away from the truth and fall from grace.
---Marcia on 7/6/07


In fact it has been shown that the Johannine comma was introduced in Spain around the 4th century AD in a text attributed to Priscillian, and therefore does not belong to the original inspired text. Even without it the text proclaims that mystery of faith fairly clearly: it makes mention of Jesus Christ, the son of God (vv 5-6), and the Holy Spirit (v-7) and the Father, both of whom bear witness to the Son(v-9). According to the O.T. one witness was sufficient at a trial.
---Johannes on 7/6/07


"Lari_S is right that the "Johannine Comma" of 1 John 5:7 is not authentic."-Ktisophilos

Ktisophilos,thank you for admitting the truth about the corrupted and forged verse 1 John 5:7.

Why didn't you correct A servant or any other Christian for using this fabricated and spurious verse to prove a Trinity in the Bible?
---Lari_S on 7/6/07


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I find it interesting that alot of people approach the Quron as they do the Bible, by taking what other people say about it, without actually reading and studying it. Islam is descended from Ismael, Judism from Isaac. Hmmm brothers, same father and we wonder why the similarities and differences.
---Dan on 7/6/07


Lari, if Mohammed was more influential than Jesus, then tell us what year it is!
---Ktisophilos on 7/6/07


A study of history shows Islam is & has always been a conquering religion. Islam was spread by conquest- nations were given the option-convert or die.

I cannot understand how anyone can gloss this over and claim that Muhammed has been a benefit to the world, any more than Hitler or Stalin.

Today Christians living in countries which have become Islamic are routinely, terrorised, gaoled & killed. All in line with the Quran.

Read the book 'Islam & Terrorism by Mark A Gabriel.
---Warwick on 7/6/07


Lari ... you quote "It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history"
Maybe if Jesus had inspired and encouraged His followers tio maim and kill, He would have been more influential.
---alan_of_UK on 7/6/07


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Lari_S is right that the "Johannine Comma" of 1 John 5:7 is not authentic. She is wrong to think that informed Trinitarians have ever depended on this passage.
---Ktisophilos on 7/6/07


Lari S::Michael Hart is just one person who has no backing. Jesus who is God From Genesis till today has a following From North to south East to west acknowledged Proved attested & the 2nd person of the blessed Trinity.Your diety does not come near to a match.He is GOD Lari S If you wish to continue you are outswamped & you have no credibility.
---Emcee on 7/5/07


One thing is certain.

The majority of the Qur'an is lies, created by a fooled prophet, via Satan pretending to be God.

Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any

Since your god does not exist, why not repent & come to the real God. He will forgive you of your blindness and receive you as His own.
---a_servant on 7/5/07


2) "It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history."
---Lari_S on 7/5/07


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1) Jewish author,historian and professor Michael Hart lists Prophet Muhummad as the most influencial man in history in his book "The 100, A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons In History." He states,

"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the worlds most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level..."
---Lari_S on 7/5/07


Lari_S, yes Jesus believed the Shema (Deut. 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD.). But see 1 Cor. 8:6:

"Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live."

Paul uses the Shema phrase "one Lord" and applies it to Jesus, thus including Him in the divine identity.
---Ktisophilos on 7/5/07


The Nicene Creed merely formalized what the Apostles and early church had always taught. The formulation was necessary to combat the Arian heresy. Creeds in general were negative statements in response to a certain need in the Church. And Arianism was a deadly heresy, similar to that of modern JWs, that needed to be countered.
---Ktisophilos on 7/5/07


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