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Protect Children Of Believers

The old testament is full of types and shadows. During the passover the blood of the lamb saved the firstborn child of the home from the destroyer. If this was a foreshadowing of future events, does the blood of the lamb of God protect children of the believers?

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 ---Ryan_Z on 4/24/07
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YOu bet it does~! Pastor Larry
---larry9688 on 11/5/07


The blood even saved the firstborn of every animal. Notice it was only the Egyptians that lost anything. The eldest was the carrier of the inheritance and the family authority. I think it is a picture of the fact that we have the authority and inheritance and the devil has lost it.
Yes, it does mean we get special benefits and protection from the blood of Christ.
---john on 11/3/07


#1 Rebecca_D, I am afraid you are still attempting to extrapolate a teaching of an 'age of accountability' where it does not exist. The parents of the blind man were, in no way, saying the blind man was of the non-existent 'age of accountability.'
---Ryan_Z on 4/29/07


#2 Rebecca_D, The scriptures you quote in I Corinthians and Galations certainly do not set an 'age of accountability'. Hebrews 10:26 speaks of sinning willfully after you have received Christ and certainly does not pertain to children. Isaiah speaks of how God used the prophets to teach Israel and makes a comparison of how Israel were like children, again not an age of accountability established here.
---Ryan_Z on 4/29/07


#3 Rebecca_D, Isaiah 40 is a prophecy of the Lord Christ Jesus gathering His flock, not an establishment of an age of accountability. Daniel 1:17 says God gave them understanding in every branch of literature, how do you extrapolate an age of accountability doctrine from that?
---Ryan_Z on 4/29/07




#4 Rebecca_D, Now concerning Deuteronomy 1:39 if you choose to use that as an establishment of an age of accountability which is a stretch of scripture, but for the sake of discussion I will grant it, then you are saying the age of accountability is 19?

**Until a child comes to the knowledge of Christ, they don't what sinning against God is.**

Again you are claiming ignorance is innocence and you fail to provide scripture for your claim.
---Ryan_Z on 4/29/07


Ryan: Not only are you contradicting yourself, but the bible as well. John 9:2 The Pharisees questioned on how and why this man recieved his healing. That is why they asked his parents. He reached the age of maturity. Meaning this man was of age to understand what Christ done to him. Read 1 Cor 3:8,13-15, Gal 6:5-8, Heb 10:26, Deu 1:39, Isa 28:9, 40:10-14, Dan 1:17. Until a child comes to the knowledge of Christ, they don't what sinning against God is.
---Rebecca_D on 4/29/07


#2 Rebecca_D, We are to study ourselves and work to become more like Christ everyday of our lives. Once again you have used scripture for a personal intepretation, I continue to warn you of this and you do not heed my warning, you will be in my prayers.
---Ryan_Z on 4/29/07


(i) Rebecca_D, the response of the parents in John 9:21 to the Pharisees is a clever response. The Pharisee's were attempting to discredit the miracle that had been performed on the blind man. The parents of the blind man saw the trap and they answered that the man was born blind and that he had been healed but they knew not how he had been healed. They would not profess Jesus as the Christ becasue to do so meant excommunication from the synogogue.
---Ryan_Z on 4/28/07


(ii) Rebecca_D, They basically told the Pharisees, "Our son was born blind and he was healed, we know not how he was healed; ask him, he is a legal adult." This is in no way an establishment of an 'age of accountability' as you claim.
---Ryan_Z on 4/28/07




Ryan Z; The bible says to study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of God. You fail at this, because you keep asking others to show you scriptures.
---Rebecca_D on 4/28/07


#1 Rebecca_D that is an intersting extrapolation you have made from John 9:21. The parents, when asked about their son, circumvented any responsibility for answering by saying he was 'of age'. Does this mean he was of the ambiguous 'age of accountability' or was it a cultural age of responsibility for oneself?
---Ryan_Z on 4/28/07


#2 Rebecca_D, How do you know they were saying the son had reached an 'age of accountability'? This would be like a parent in our society saying my children are of age, meaning by law they were legal adults, not a spiritual and moral 'age of accountability'.
---Ryan_Z on 4/28/07


#3 Rebecca_D, By attempting to attribute this verse to a 'age of accountability' you are denying the context in which it is written you are also denying the cultural and legal context of what the parents were saying. Once again this is an issue of personal interpretation vs. interpretation in light of context and other scritpure.
---Ryan_Z on 4/28/07


Ryan: If a person has to show you every single time what is in the bible and what isn't, apparently you do not know God's word. John 9:1-30. They story of the blind man. Notice it says He was of age. If you agree it is in the bible, then why ask someone else to give scriptures?
---Rebecca_D on 4/27/07


REbecca_D, you make this claim

**It is all in the bible...**

I completely agree. And you present this teaching:

**Until a child reaches the age of accuntablity, (until they come to the knowledge of Christ and what he is about) they will go to heaven.**

If it is all in the bible where is your biblical support for an 'age of accountability' and until you reach this age you are automaticaly allowed into heaven?
---Ryan_Z on 4/27/07


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Ryan: What? Until a child reaches the age of accuntablity, (until they come to the knowledge of Christ and what he is about) they will go to heaven. After they reach that age, their on their own. Seriously do you not study God's word? Or do you just like to ask nonsense questions just so you can have a little laugh? It is all in the bible, just read it. If you don't understand, ask God for an understanding, and he will show you....if you let him.
---Rebecca_D on 4/27/07


Rebecca_D so there are children that do not make the choice, but rather have the choice made for them? If they have the choice made for them than not all people have the choice.
---Ryan_Z on 4/27/07


Ryan: how in the world do you come up with bogas questions? Of course all won't be saved. Read the book of Revelation lately? It is a choice that God gives to each person. Either we go to be with him in heaven or we don't.
---Rebecca_D on 4/26/07


Rebecca_D of course Jesus died for all sins, does that mean everyone will be saved?
---Ryan_Z on 4/26/07


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Raine, in the case of these children that I have told you about. The children of my mother-in-law and my grandma and my friend, all of their children died unclean. In the case of my mothers lost child he died holy. I don't belive anyone is currently in hell, they are all in sheol. Geheena is reserved for Satan and his angels and God will not throw a human soul into Geheena until after the second resurrection. All of humanity awaits resurrection in Sheol.
---Ryan_Z on 4/26/07


Ryan: Uh yeah. Name one person Christ didn't die for? Name one person he wasn't thinking of while on dying on the cross. You can't name not one person, that Jesus did not die for.
---Rebecca_D on 4/26/07


Ryan, I don't believe those babies are in hell.
---Raine on 4/25/07


Raine, yes, my mother-in-law and my mother both lost babies. My grandma, on my mom's side, also lost a child while in the womb. Some very close friends of mine have also recently lost a child that was still in the womb.
---Ryan_Z on 4/25/07


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Rebecca_D **Christ died for all.**

So you believe in universal salvation?
---Ryan_Z on 4/25/07


Ryan, have you or someone you know, lost a baby?
---Raine on 4/25/07


Ryan; Christ died for all. He shed his blood for all mankind. My children won't go to heaven because me and my husband are christians, they will go to heaven because of the blood that was shed on Calvary.
---Rebecca_D on 4/24/07


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