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Drawn To The Desert

The Call of the Desert. Why were Jesus, John the Baptist, Moses and others drawn to the desert? Why were famous travellers, such as Sir Wildred Thesigier, drawn to the desert? What is it about the desert that brings men closer to God? In our riches-fuelled world how needy are we of the desert?

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I live in the Desert & a stones throw from the River(colo.) It's the Quietness, the Peacefulness... When you go out into the Mts. here, It's easy to become one with God, It's Just you & Him, once you get Satan off your back.
And it's were men of God are refined & polished for the Job that has been set before them...
In the Quietness of the Spirit, you will hear God speak & in the stillness of your Spirit, Worship Him!
YLBD
---Duane_M on 1/9/08


Everyone you mentioned (even Jesus when He went into the wilderness) is pre-death, burial, and resurrection. If you are having a desert experience, you either aren't drawing from the well of Christ inside of you or you aren't letting the river flow to others around you. I don't desire anything He doesn't call me to.
---Linda on 1/8/08


Matthew, ditto.
No agendas, just heart. And we better be concerned with our own walk, or we will be eating her dust, as she runs ahead of us.
---Gail on 6/3/07


*She's too busy having her close relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Regardless of what you think*

Amen, Catherine's close realtionship with the Lord is quite apparent. When I read her responses it puts a smile on my face. Her love for the Lord is clearly seen in her words. It warms my heart.
---Matthew on 6/3/07


Sorry you misunderstood me, catherine. Off and running, I didn't mean running away. I meant you were busy seeking God.
It is so easy to be misinterpreted, as we write down our interpretations of God's Word.
It's a misnomer to assume we know someone's else's heart, but you've told us how much you love the Lord. +++
---Gail on 6/2/07




No Gail I am not running, God has been dealing with me. Anyone that is a true believer knows what that is like. Thank you for the very kind words. By the way these blogs has been a blessing for me as I have been called into the ministey.
---catherine on 6/2/07


The gift of prophecy is being able to interpret the Word, God's revelations.
I believe catherine's heart is in the right place and every day, I hear truth from her interpretations of God's Word.
She's made herself available, night and day.
You may be missing the interpretation of what she's really saying.
---Gail on 6/1/07


One last item, while you might try and rain on catherine's parade, she's going on with God. She's too busy having her close relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Regardless of what you think, I doubt anyone will be able to diminish or take that away from her. She's probably left this blog, left the station in a dead run, and the rest of us can eat her dust. She's running.
---Gail on 6/1/07


Jesus spoke at great length of being aware of false prophets when they are in your midst. I'll listen to Jesus' words any day over self-proclaimed prophets.
---Susie on 5/31/07


Is that not an authentic Susie answer, with an edge to it?
---Trisha on 5/30/07




For some of us it is a time to prepare for the ministry we are called into. And while we are there God tests us. He will take you through some fire-storms. You will learn about God and you will get to know God you will learn what it means to really obey God.. In some cases it is mostly you and God. Any person that God places a strong call on, must be led by God's spirit into the desert.
---catherine on 5/30/07


I think you're jealous.
---Gail on 5/29/07


Ed....catherine sees herself as a prophet. She is prophesying!
---Susie on 5/29/07


Catherine

?

I don't get your point at all.
Jesus prayed to the Father. Moses and John the Baptist worshipped the God of the Jews.

Your quote has absolutely no bearing on this post. This post is about prayer to the Christian God (not pagan gods).
---Ed on 5/29/07


Your shoes are worn out, and your throat is parched from running here and there to worship foreign gods. "STOP" I shouted, but you replied, "NO! I love those gods too much." You and your leaders are more disgraceful than thieves-you and your kings, your priests and prophets worship stone idols and sacred poles as if they had created you and had given you life. You have rejected me, but when you are in trouble, you cry to me for help.
---catherine on 5/28/07


Eloy
It was part of Jesus' nature to pray and he did pray - not my view, the New Testament tell us, gospel Mark gives best example: 'Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray ... And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him. And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.'
---Ed on 5/28/07


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2. Eloy
"for he is God and eternally walks in the Spirit" - but Jesus was also a man (without sin, of course) and He had to struggle, due to the human being in His nature to follow The Father's will (even though He could never have failed in following The Father's will because Jesus was also God). That is one of the mysteries of The Trinity. Jesus was both human being (entirely free of sin) and God. And like human beings he prayed.
---Ed on 5/28/07


Susie
We shouldn't be too literal about desert. Desert is a wildnerness, a place separate to the world. Every country has its wildernesses. The point is you don't have to go to a desert or a wilderness to get away from the world to pray. One can always find somewhere quiet to pray. And if not then we must try and find a quiet moment and make the time to pray. Easier said than done! God Bless
---Ed on 5/28/07


I expect there are a lot of stories about the desert in the Bible because the countries are all in the desert!!!!
---Susie on 5/27/07


O.k.
Thanks Linda. I understand.
But there can be pride in everything we do, not just acting out poverty.
At the moment we live in a world which is hugely materialistic. Perhaps it would be no harm to consider the idea of ascetism and apostolic poverty. Everyone is different and has different callings in life. But even people who live in the world and following God's will would do no harm to reflect a bit more on this.
---Ed on 5/27/07


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.ed, you are not speaking the truth of documented scripture, but your own conclusions. None of these people were drawn to the desert. and Jesus did not go to the desert to pray, for he is God and eternally walks in the Spirit. The Bible states exactly why these three people went to the desert, even as I have already cited. But you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 5/26/07


Ed, I didn't say any of that in the tone of voice you thought I did. I made the statement about boasting in the flesh because I have run into many people who do believe that poverty equals humility. That is why I tied it in with the "apostolic poverty" blog. However, you still made no mention of the apostolic abundance in comparison and that is off balance. If the Spirit is leading you to the desert, go there. That was the main point.
---Linda on 5/26/07


Eloy
But what was the point of Jesus going into the desert. It was ultimately prayer.
---Ed on 5/26/07


2. Eloy
You also fail to understand the back-drop of the desert to Jewish life. Moses and the others remained in the desert for a long time. Following God's will. It was a spiritual preparation for The Promised Land. Don't forget all the things the Jews learned in the desert (i.e The Ten Commandments. They were also showered with blessings: manna from Heaven, and so on).
It was a time of extraordinary spiritual growth for the Jewish people.
---Ed on 5/26/07


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3. Eloy
So yes, Jesus was drawn to the desert. Moses was drawn to the desert in so far as he remained there for 40 years. And the Bible doesn't say John was actually 'drawn' but we can infer by his time spent in the desert and by his ascetic bearing that he was, to some extent, a man of the desert, as the desert has played an important role in the lives of many well-known Jews in ancient times.
---Ed on 5/26/07


being part indian 0ne quarter,and all christian. i can tell you that being isolated before nature,and God, will bring a man to God quick.jesus went specifically to fast ,and be tempted, for 40 days.the number of completion.I believe we would all be better off if we spent some days totally isolated from the world with God.I really do.
---tom2 on 5/25/07


The Bible does not read that any of these people were called to the desert. Please read the Bible and speak from the truth. Pharaoh wanted to kill Moses for killing an Egyptian, and Moses ran escaping for his life- Exodus 2:11-15; John the Baptist was praching and baptizing in the wilderness-
Matthew 3:1-6; Mark 1:4,5; and Jesus went into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil to see if he would remain faithful to God- Matthew 4:1; Mark 1:12,13.
---Eloy on 5/26/07


Whoo, how mystifing when you think of all of these along with the Indians and my friend Jason the Pot head.Ha! Seriously though, I think the desert being dry, barron and dangereous, is a place of true fasting (well the indians liked peyote,majic mushrooms),where one is not distracted by the pleasures of the world. God has called SOME there for fellowship and revelation. I have heard the Indians say that the demons are there with the Gods. We all need desert experience.
---jody on 5/25/07


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Only the Holy Spirit can draw people closer to God, and He does it through the Cross of Christ and Jesus' finished work there for sin.
---Helen_5378 on 5/25/07


Okay, this isn't very deep, or Bibical or whatever, but whenever I visited the desert there was ALWAYS a beautiful sun-set and sun-rise. Always. I've never seen a more beautiful sun-set and sun-rise than when I was in the desert.
---sue on 5/24/07


Perhaps they enjoyed the desert for the same reason I live there. The sun shines EVERY day and it is peaceful and dry. There's nothing like waking up in the morning with the birds singing, clear air where you can see the mountains around you, and a sunshiny day. Some people live in an emotional and spiritual desert all their lives.
---Susie on 5/24/07


Linda "cause you to boast in your own flesh because of false "
that's not a kind thing to say. I am not criticising any individuals. I am not even criticizing. I am just making a statement which people might agree or disagree with.
Why be unkind?
As it happens Jesus, John the Baptist and Moses all spent time in the desert. FACT.
As it happens i totally disagree with you. And i ain't goint to get personal cause that aint Christian.
---Ed on 5/24/07


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2. Linda

Jesus says this: 'Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal ...If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor ...'

Why do you insult me when i refer to the Bible. Maybe i am wrong. But no need to be unkind.
---Ed on 5/24/07


Ed, if you want to go to the desert, go to the desert. Whatever He says to you, do it. Just remember that deserts are waterless places and the wilderness is the world we live in. Perhaps your desire to "go to the desert" has more to do with reaching out to those who are thirsty and in need of a drink of living water. When Father says something to us, He says what He means even if we don't understand what He means.
---Linda on 5/24/07


I notice that you are the same blogger who asked about "apostolic poverty" also. You never mentioned the fact that Paul also enjoyed abundance. Watch out for those things you do that cause you to boast in your own flesh because of false humility. Some people like to say that poverty equals humility. I say that if a true view of the cross doesn't humble you, poverty sure won't and will actually become a snare to you.
---Linda on 5/24/07


Whatever He says to you, do it, but don't put what He says to you personally on everybody else. Everybody else may be in a different season with Him altogether. My Bible tells me that the wilderness will become a fruitful field. How does a dry, dusty place become a fruitful field? Somebody comes along and waters it and begins to tend the garden or, shall I say, replenishes the earth.
---Linda on 5/24/07


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A dear old friend of mine (in Heaven now) really loved yearly visits to the desert, mostly to photograph and worship together. :) He came home with gorgeous photos that I would not have dreamed of, as I don't personally like desert. Dessert I love, but not the desert lol! :D
---Mary on 5/23/07


John
No-one has suggested to remain in the desert. Our Lord came out of the desert. So did John the Baptist and Moses.
---Ed on 5/24/07


Perhaps it is a living irony; God's way of showing worldly people that what they think is barren as far as the natural world goes is actually lush and fruitful if God's presence is there. Did God still walk around in Eden after man was kicked out? I doubt it. Probably from God's perspective He saw Eden as a desert after the fall - spiritually barren, especially if His presence was no longer there, even though it was still lush and desirable from Adam & Eve's perspective.
---Anthony on 5/23/07


The desert is a place of few distractions where one can get a lot of "alone" time. this is good for that reason but not for the same reason that Jesus went there for. He went there for us so trying to go there for that reason would be wrong. If you go there, go to get built up and don't stay there because the fruit is not produced there.
---john on 5/23/07


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Linda
Obviously we can't all go and live in the desert. For obvious reasons. Yes, on one level, what is the literal attraction of the desert? But more importantly, on a deeper leve, how can we live in the desert, symbolically. As a means of prayer. To get closer to God. Can we learn anything from those who did turn to the desert? Why did they go to the desert? What did they get out of it? Could we follow, more, their example in this busy world we live in - full of all kinds of distractions.
---Ed on 5/23/07


Leon
How comfortable would people feel if they were suddenly transported to the desert. With nothing to reflect who they are. Just the bare elements. Nothingness. And yet through prayer the desert would cease to be an empty place. But full of the wonder of God. And, more importantly, where they would find, more, God in themselves.
---Ed on 5/23/07


If He calls me away, I go away alone with Him. If He says, "Let's go out into the field and check the vines", I go into the field with Him. If you don't go with Him, you will feel like you are in the desert because you didn't move with Him and He will create a void in you so you will look for Him. It is better to just obey when He speaks than to miss the preciousness of His presence and have to go looking for Him.
---Linda on 5/23/07


If He calls me away, I go away alone with Him. If He says, "Let's go out into the field and check the vines", I go into the field with Him. If you don't go with Him, you will feel like you are in the desert because you didn't move with Him and He will create a void in you so you will look for Him. It is better to just obey when He speaks than to miss the preciousness of His presence and have to go looking for Him.
---Linda on 5/23/07


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Ed, are you drawn to the dry, dusty places?
Ed, do you want to take a vow of poverty?
I believe men are drawn there because of fewer distractions.
But if look at Vegas, men were drawn there for other reasons. It's out of the public's eye.
---Bob on 5/23/07


Ed: I believe we were all born in the desert of Sin (the kingdom of Satan, aimlessly wandering "to and fro" in the land of exile & separation from God). It's a place of testing where we can choose to trust God & forever live or rebel against Him & eternally perish.

Only in Jesus can we be "born again" (delivered, redeemed, sustained) & safely led out of the desert, & brought into the Promised Land (His glorious Kingdom, Heaven).

Thanks for your very good question. :)
---Leon on 5/23/07


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