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I find there to be a surprising number of bloggers that are anti-"creationism" and anti-"fundamentalism". My question (just curious) is: are there Christian bloggers here who don't believe Jesus was literally born by a virgin.

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While some call themselves "Christians" this term has been used loosely in the last 30 years. To truly be a believer you must be born again. "Unless a man be born again you cannot enter the Kingdom of God".

So, those professing to be Christian but hate the Bible, refuse to submit to Christ and His teaching CANNOT be Christians.

"CHRISTian" means - to follow the teachings of Christ.
---Ardith_Kay_Tolson on 1/11/08


"Behold!' the Angel said, God has chosen you, and purified you, and chosen you above the women of all nations. Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him, whose name shall be the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, honored in this world and in the Hereafter, and one of those brought near to God. He shall speak to the people from his cradle and in maturity, and he shall be of the righteous."
---Sheila on 1/10/08


oh yes there are denominations that don,t believe in the virgin birth,and that jesus was physically resurected.some have gay ministers,
---tom2 on 7/1/07


Depraved men! Men are most apt to speak evil of those persons and things they know least of. These are brute beasts, though they often think and boast themselves if not as the wisest, yet at least as the wittiest part of mankind. The fault, whatever it is, lies in their depraved wills.>>>>>I wonder how many people in this world God considers as depraved men. And what God considers, His people suppose to consider.
---catherine on 6/30/07


Yes, Okebaram, we do have unbelievers here.

They say Merry Smithmas, worship the founding fathers, and use your name while they pout.
---Bob on 6/3/07




Okebaram-Fundamentalist follow only the Bible. We reject science is it differs from the Bible. Secular science people believe-

That the universe consists of atoms
That dinosaurs are dead
That evolitonism created man from rocks.

These and other lies are in the textbooks and us Creation believers must stand against.
---Bob on 5/31/07


Okybaram Dinosaurs died during the flood, evolutioniste know this but hid all the evidence. They lie to promote a bigger lie, evolutionism.

As to Creationism its embodied today by such organizations such as AIG and Ken Ham. Liberals malign Fundamentalists who in reality Love Tolerance. We love everybody on this God-created Earth. We especially love new ideas and scientifically proven concepts. It is also well-known that they love to engage in intelligent discussion of controversial issues.
---Bob on 5/31/07


Just going to church does not make you a Christian any more than sitting in a garage makes you a car.
One cannot be a Christian and not believe the Word of God. God says Jesus was born of a virgin birth. bottom line. The Word of God is ultimate Authority wheter anyone chooses to believe that or not.
---Tsuanne on 5/30/07


Not possible! You can't be a Christian and not believe in the virgin birth. A person may go to church, even have membership in a church, or be moral and upstanding, but that doesn't make them a Christian - just nice. If Christ was born with a human father, that makes Him a sinner since Romans 3:23 states "All have sinned".
---WIVV on 5/30/07


To not believe that Jesus was born of the virgin Mary is to take away who He is. He then becomes nothing but a mortal man with no Divinity. Thus we would have no salvation at all.You cannot say you believe in Him with out believing how He came to be.
---Dr._Barry_Pratt on 5/30/07




Mima ... it is a matter of biblical record that Mary conceived. So she must genetically be the mother of Jesus's human body.
---alan_of_UK on 5/30/07


It was absolutely imperative for the mother of God to be bore of a virgin. The birth of Jesus produced through the miraculous intervention of God's Spirit and without human intercourse. God would never had chosen an inpure woman to bore His only one of a kind, equal to God, Son. NEVER. Stop with all the filth. It is disgusting.
---catherine on 5/30/07


Mima, The virgin birth and Joseph not being our Lord's natural father hold many spiritual similtudes and types and shadows. It should be believed as written.
Frank
---Frank on 5/30/07


greetings."Is it a necessary that Mary must be a virgin?What significance is there?Is it mandatory?It is evident that neither Mary or Joseph are the true parents of Jesus GENETICALLY or other." I believe this statement by Earl is a result of great insightfulness on his part.
---Mima on 5/30/07


If someone doesn't believe Jesus was literally born by a virgin, then they are not believing the Word of God. We are NOT called to reason things out. We are called "Believers" for a reason. We are called to believe the word, and the understanding will come when we seek God for it. If the WORD of GOD says, "He was born of a virgin" then choose to believe what the word tells us, understanding how it happened is revelation knowledge given to us by the power of the Holy Spirit.
---donna on 5/30/07


There is no true Christian whom does not believe in the Scriptures which detail exactly whom the Father of Jesus really is? Isaiah 7:14; 8:10; 9:6,7; Matthew 1:18-25; Luke 1:30-38; John 1:1-3,14.
---Eloy on 5/29/07


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Yes, the Son of God was born of a virgin. He is the one worthy of praise and so many on here get caught up in praising the woman and not the Son of God. Jesus is the power!!!! I'm a fool for Jesus.... Who's fool are you? =)
---MARK_N on 5/29/07


When Jesus was born of a virgin it manifested that salvation was impossible without him. With God ALL things are possible and that saviour would be "out of place" (virgin birth) and the prophesies fulfilled. Christians better believe it and not call God a liar.
Frank
---Frank on 5/29/07


Hi,I surely hope there isn't.If you read the Bible You'll see that God pick Mary because she was a virgin,she was very young probly 12 or 13 at the time.I for one believe that Jesus was born from a virgin,and I hope all Christians do.donna3594
---Donna on 5/29/07


I believe whats in the bible....
anti-fundamentalism...i dont get it
i'm anti-legalism
---mark_B. on 5/29/07


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greetings.Is it a necessary that Mary must be a virgin?What significance is there?Is it mandatory?It is evident that neither Mary or Joseph are the true parents of Jesus genetically or other.A normal human cannot be both man and God but Jesus was when he lived among his children.Does anyone have the genetic qualifications to heal another by being touched with someone's hand at the same time tire from exhaustion? Virginity was upscaled as holy but after marriage the female returned to her former status.
---earl on 5/29/07


I am not a creationist, neither am I a classical fundamentalist, but I hold to the doctrines of the Trinity, Incarnation, and Resurrection with a firmness that would make many of the supposed "fundamentalists" here look like Unitarians.
---Jack on 5/29/07


Yes I think that there are a few Non Believers here, we welcome them in the Love of Jesus, and pray that they also like us will believe in Jesus Christ. Brian. 6933
---BRIAN._STAFFORD on 5/29/07


One believes God created everything, that means they are a creationist, be they Catholic, Methodist, Mormon, Sioux shamen, Baptist, Coptic Monk, Eastern Othodox, etc, Right? I define my terms as best as possible; Mr. Webster explains best what fundamentalism is.

On specific theological issues I avoid Bible verses as anything can be justified- and has using scripture'Wars, pograms, alavery, persecution, and good things as well, charity, compassion, liberty, etc-good/bad quoted Bible.
---MikeM on 5/29/07


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