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When Not To Take Communion

What does it say in Corinthians why we should not partake of communion with people fellowshipping with demons? If a Christian is in sin, ie., spritual pride, angry with God, murmurs about God all the time, and blames him for things in her life, should anyone take communion with her?

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Who needs scripture for that? The answer is obvious. NO! You do not. But how do we know about such people when so much is hidden? Except, ofcourse, from God.
---catherine on 3/23/08


Greg, you would be welcome in 'most' churches and should go if that is how you feel. However, if you do not accept the sacrifice that Jesus made for you, you should not take communion. You won't be the only one not taking it if people behave honestly. I'm not sure what you mean by being a "non-saved believer". What sort of believer are you, in other words, in what/whom do you believe? Could you explain that for us please?
---RitaH on 3/23/08


Greg, were you planning on going to church to see the people who think they are worthy to judge or to worship God and partake in communion in his presence? I'm sure God was thrilled you planned on coming. You might miss out on that cloud 9 just because human beings aren't all the same.
---Corrie on 3/23/08


This conversation is exactly why it is so difficult for a "non-saved believer" like myself to feel welcome in church services. As I typed this message on the eve of Easter, I felt very strongly about attending services tomorrow and to take communion. I guess it's a good thing I checked this blog, because now I see that many "saved" people would not welcome a dirty, sinful man like myself.
---Greg on 3/22/08


The reference to fellowship with demons refers specifically to eating food offered to idols, not to sinful people taking communion.

As far as someone in whatever kind of sin, you say you have seen his/her sin, but have you seen his/her repentance? Do you REALLY know how to judge that person's heart?

If so, then you are claiming something that Christ reserves to Himself.
---Jack on 1/27/08




Communion is only for true Believers, when we come together in remembrance of the sufferings of Jesus Christ for the sins of His people. It is a very important coming together. True believers shows true love for each other, They have a cheerful heart. All of this is included in this extremely important coming together.We are to continue in prayer.
---catherine on 6/6/07


What Paul was saying in Corinthians was that we Christians cannot partake of the Lord's Table and then go next door to the pagan's "church" and eat the sacrificial offering from their god's table. Because the purpose of Communion is unity, and if you participate in an idolatrous sacrifice you are joining in fellowship (uniting) with them before their manmade god. You cannot have two masters.
---lorra8574 on 6/4/07


Partaking of communion with someone is not idolatry. It would, however, be idolatry if a person thought that he was so great that he couldn't eat with the "common folks". Though we aren't to esteem anyone (including ourselves) higher than God, we are to esteem others higher than ourselves, otherwise we fall into our own spiritual pride. Again, you have taken the adverb "unworthily" and used it as an adjective describing a person. That is not the way it is used.
---Linda on 6/4/07


Linda, The Lord said that he that loved mother or father, sister or brother more than him was unwothy of him. If you take communion while loving family more than the Lord you won't be accounted worthy. That is taking it unworthily. Not who you are with, but your own spiritual state as he sees us. He said we should have no gods before him. Family included.
Frank
---Frank on 6/4/07


*ou certainly better not take communion with such people. It is against God's word. I quote from 2 Corin. We should not join in religious communion with unbelievers. It is a very great absurdity. Believers are Righteous. Unbelievers are unrighteous.*

There was a prophetic post I posted last night God had me type this same message in different words, but the moderators didn't post it. God couldn't get the message on CN through me but he went ahead and did it through you. Amazing! Praise God!
---Matthew on 6/4/07




Catherine, I was somewhat distraught and disappointed when I realized the prophetic I posted didn't get posted. I prayed to God to do something to help me feel better. And you saying those words is the answer to that prayer. Thank you and praise God!
---Matthew on 6/4/07


An idol is anything that you put before God. God has strong words about idols. HE HATES ALL OF THEM. NO. You certainly better not take communion with such people. It is against God's word. I quote from 2 Corin. We should not join in religious communion with unbelievers. It is a very great absurdity. Believers are Righteous. Unbelievers are unrighteous. Believers are made light in the Lord. Unbelievers are in darkness.And what comfortable communion can these have together?
---catherine on 6/3/07


Linda. Excellent point! "Unworthily" is simply explained in :29. It says " he that eats and drinks unworthily, eats and drinks damnation to himself, NOT DISCERNING THE LORD'S BODY." So the unworthily participation is "not discerning". That is, not understanding fully what the body and blood is about. Anyone who can understand that the body of Christ was broken and bled for the remission of sins and for our healing and deliverance is worthy and should come for the cleansing.
---john on 6/3/07


the worship of idols is a person worshiping something that can do nothing, God is not happy when worship is directed to foolishness instead of the true and living God, It is not the idol but the worship of it that offends God. Note the gentiles at that time were worshiping devils, how would then would Christ have communion with devils? Sin cannot commune with the body of Christ but is taken on board for CHANGE/REPENTANCE, not to be unequally yoked God forbid!
---Carla5754 on 6/3/07


If I go to a General Practitioner sick I go to get something from him, Medication. I do not go to have dinner with him in his home , because he are I and are not buddies! But if I go as another GP I can communicate with him on the same level, and if I am ill he is much able to deal with me because we practice professionaly the same code of conduct.
How will a satanist going into medical training with a GP?
---Carla5754 on 6/3/07


Frank, the word is not "unworthy". It is "unworthily" and is an adverb modifying the verb "drink". The only way to drink unworthily is to drink apart from faith that the sacrifice of Jesus was enough to deal with sin. I agree with both Jack and John on this one. The table of the Lord is prepared before us in the presence of our enemies.
---Linda on 6/2/07


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Communion is a deeply personal decision. A few times I have chosen not to partake, and usually that was because I was struggling with sexual, extra-marital sin (wanting it with a married man I'm afraid) and I felt absolutely unworthy. Of course, we're only worthy because of Jesus but I was feeling too ashamed of myself.
---Mary on 6/2/07


Part 2: Please don't anyone beat me up for that one; I beat myself up enough for it, and one of the best (but hardest) things I did was eventually pray for God to strengthen this man's marriage against someone like me. Hurt but it helped.
---Mary on 6/2/07


It also says to take communion "unworthily" is to eat and drink damnation to ourselves. Look up who Jesus said was worthy or unworthy of him and you will find that many Christians do that today and couldn't care less.
Frank
---Frank on 6/2/07


Matt.26:28 "This is my blood of the new testament which is shed for many for the remission of sins" He invites all sinners to come to him just as they are. That's why he said "all of you take it."
Did he say "get forgiven and come and partake" or "my blood is here for you to partake of for forgiveness?"
The communion is the very place where you are invited to come to him for cleansing. Forbidding someone to come to Jesus would be a horrible sin.
---john on 6/2/07


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I wonder if Jesus was thinking like you when He ate the last supper with Judas, a man He knew was going to betray Him that very night and had already been "communing" with Satan enough that he had already put the betrayal in his heart. When that bread was dipped and given to Judas, the betrayer came to light and went out into outer darkness...and when Judas went out, the Son of Man was glorified.
---Linda on 6/1/07


**16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?**

Would any purpose be served in pointing out something?

"Cup of blessing" is not a term coined by Paul, but was and still is a familiar Jewish term and ceremony. The emphasis is not on "cup of blessing" but on the words "which WE bless..."

I suppose not.
---Jack on 6/1/07


I just wonder what awesome thing would happen if you humbled yourself in the light of His death and took communion with her. Perhaps some carnality would go out of her because she saw Jesus in you. I wish I knew her and she would ask me. I would spend several minutes ahead of time going over the eight sheddings of blood with her and what they redeemed us from. I would make this the opportunity of a lifetime...and the opportunity of a lifetime must be seized in the lifetime of the opportunity.
---Linda on 6/1/07


One should clean themselves up by the looks of things and should not eat or drink of the communion unworthily , Hungry / drunk. Otherwise there is a curse of being weak and sickly and also a state of sleep death/ unconscience?. I wouldn't think one uses the communion to get healed/repent it is not for that purpose but for those to worthily part-take in the remembrance of Christ until he comes back. Eat with a heart judged clean prior to communion.
---Carla5754 on 6/2/07


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We should all go and read that over again. It says no where that we are to abstain from taking communion because of someone elses condition. What they do is there business and it says we are to have everyone judge themselves. You taking communion is between you and Jesus. And furthermore, even if the other person is a wicked sinner, who do you think is invited to come to Jesus? All sinners are invited to come and get cleaned up. That's what the blood is for, to come and get cleaned up.
---john on 6/1/07


Good answer Jack. I agree with you 100%.
---betty8468 on 6/1/07


If a person is saying those things about God, they have no business partaking in communion in the first place. Communion is for the believers of Christ (righteous). Not for the sinners.
---Rebecca_D on 6/1/07


Amos said If two can't be in agreement, they can't walk together. If someone is bashing God, blaming Him for all the bad that has happened in this person's life, stands in spiritual pride and has been told by 3 prophets of God that she is, I just can't take communion with someone in rebellion like this. Witchcraft is as the sin of rebellion. Since I'm not in agreement with how she treats God, I can't take communion. She's been begging me to for months now, and I keep saying, "Not yet, not now."
---donna on 6/1/07


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Part 1 of 2: 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread. 18 Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?
---donna on 6/1/07


Part 2 of 2: I guess I don't fully understand what Paul is saying here:19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
---donna on 6/1/07


Yes HE did Mima....it is stated by Christ that 'he who dips his bread in the same bowl' (my interpretation, look it up) would deceive HIM. The bread was communion.
---NVBarbara on 6/1/07


To Mima...yes, He did.

The word "unworthily" is an adverb. Adverbs modify verbs (actions), not nouns (persons, places, or things). To partake unworthily, one would have to partake apart from faith in the death of Jesus that took away the sin of the world (unbelief). Demons believe that God is one and tremble in fear. If you are afraid, that is apart from faith because perfect love expressed in the sacrifice of God's Son casts out all fear.
---Linda on 6/1/07


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Let me further clarify something I said. If you are afraid of partaking because you think you are unworthy, that is apart from faith. Communion is to remember His death which, consequently, was the death of who you were in Adam. Partaking of that and remembering His death is essentially saying that you believe and trust that His sacrifice was enough for sin.
---Linda on 6/1/07


If a Christian is in sin, then that Christian should not be permitted to receive communion. If the priest or pastor is not privy to that person's sin, as a properly instructed Christian, he or she should already know that to receive communion unworthily is to eat and drink a judgement upon himself. Of course, to participate in a simple memorial meal with fellow Christians is not the same thing and is only mildly disrepectful. Fellow Christians should warn their brethren of their sins.
---lorra8574 on 6/1/07


In conjunction with this question please consider this question, did Jesus offer Communion to Judas at the Last Supper??
---Mima on 6/1/07


1cor is addressing individuals who partake in communion unworthily/sinfully,thereby bringing judgement,sickness and death upon themselves .We are to examine ourselves and judge ourselves prior to taking communion for cleansing so that we will not be guilty of body and blood of Jesus and to be worthy of communion. It really doesn't ask us to judge the other partakers of the communion feast. We needn't concern ourselves with whether or not they have demons or are in sin. We are to look at ourselves only.
---jody on 6/1/07


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The reference to fellowship with demons refers specifically to eating food offered to idols, not to sinful people taking communion.

As far as someone in whatever kind of sin, you may have seen his/her sin, but have you seen his/her repentance. Do you REALLY know how to judge that person's heart?

If so, then you are claiming something that Christ reserves to Himself.
---Jack on 6/1/07


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