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Babies Go To Heaven Or Hell

What happens to babies when they die or are still born, where do they go? To Heaven or Hell?

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Babies who have died without knowing God go to purgatory, where they wait until the revelation to be with those who were righteous, this is Catholic doctrine for the past 900 years, at least that's how old the document was I read it in. This is not a place of pain but one without knowledge of God, until a baby is baptized this is the case.
---Jeff on 12/3/11

To HEAVEN!!! Babies and little children until they truly can understand right, wrong and personal accountability ALL GO DIRECTLY TO HEAVEN when they die!!! DO NOT BELIEVE OTHERWISE!!! GOD (YAHUVEH) IS TOTALLY JUST AND FAIR!
---Gordon on 3/29/08

People who have heard his message and disregarded it will die at his second coming.This is why he will only return once the gospel has been made known across the globe. However infants have not been made aware of his word or sin therefore they cannot be condemmed for it. Jesus said be as little children as they will inherit the kingdom, David did not mourn for his son after he had died as it would not bring him back, but David said that he would go to him once he himself died (Sam 12:22).
---Tim on 7/19/07

There is no other place than heaven for babies. Jesus Himself said that all the little children should come to Him. God is a God of mercy, and babies do not know right from wrong yet, as a matter of fact they don't know anything yet, so to speak.
---Cornl on 7/10/07

1/ Mark

I had stated what I did about context because you said that I had taken 2Pet 3:9 out of context, so yes I am defending my stand concerning 2Pet 3:9.

You said, They were not looking for context to write in, they just wrote what God wanted them to write at the time. Reading the context is important to us not to them.

I didnt disagree that I had taken the scripture out of context, but I do disagree that the spirit of God is bound by the context of scripture
---Billy on 7/8/07

2/ Mark

when it comes to discerning the whole of Gods Word, or "rightly dividing the word of truth 2Tim2:15". I dont see how you can say that reading the context is important to us and not to them. Its the same inspired spirit that causes us to "rightly dividing the word of truth," and to spiritually discern Gods Word. John took Godly inspired words from the Old Testament, completely out of context and apply them to Christ.
---Billy on 7/8/07

3/ Mark

This is how we discern Gods Word. What about all the other scriptures I gave to prove that God is not will that none of His creation perish, including the wicked. Yes the wicked will be judged and destroyed, but the soul will be saved, yet so as by fire. So even though I had taken 2Pet 3:9 out of context to say that God isnt willing that none should perish, even though its speaking only to Gods elect, the whole of scripture proves the otherwise as well.
---Billy on 7/8/07

4/ Mark

Because scripture teaches that God will save all of His creation, 2Pet 3:9 can be used out of context to say that this is speaking to everyone. Doing this doesnt take away from, or add to Gods Word in any way. So Mark, if God has willed Christ to be the saviour of the world "1Joh 4:14", will Gods will and plan succeed, or will Christ fail to perform this great feat? God bless.
---Billy on 7/8/07

**...the age of reason and accountablily.**

You must mean the scriptural unprovable 'age of reason and accountability'?

**...the innocent...**

Who is innocent (Romans 3:23)?

**The answer to this quetion can be found in God's Character.**

Or some trumped up human projection of what secular flesh thinks God's character should be.
---Ryan_Z on 7/7/07

Hello Billy, I answered you again with six more comments to finish my response to you that I had done but again I do not see them on this blog. It had to do with what I believe the case shows for infants and their judgment. I guess it was not important or something I said sounded wrong, or it just hasn't come out yet this time. I just read what you wrote and was wondering why you had stated what you did about discernment. Is there a reason for putting that down? Did I miss something?
---mark on 7/7/07

#2. Billy: Or, are you defending your stand on 2 Peter 3:9? The "not willing that any should parish" is in the context of the "beloved", for in verses 3-7, Peter is talking about the "scoffers" that would be among them, and in verse 7 he speaks "which are served for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." If all meant every human being, why even say they would be served for fire at the day of judgment?
---mark on 7/7/07

#3. Billy: After reading the book of Peter 1 and 2, you will see the messages are for the believers, "the beloved" and the Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us," Here the "us" is still the saved, The Lord waits for the others, the elect to be saved. God has an immense capacity for patience before He breaks forth in judgment (v. 15: Joel 2:13; Luke 15:20; Romans 9:22; 1 Peter 3:15).
---mark on 7/7/07

#4. Billy: God endures endless blasphemies against His name, along with rebellion, murders, and the ongoing breaking of His laws, waiting patiently while He is calling and redeeming His own. It is not impotence or slackness that delays final judgment, It is patience not willing that any should perish, and that all of the elect come to repentance. The "any" must refer to those whom the Lord has chosen and will call to complete the redeemed.
---mark on 7/7/07

A baby who dies in the womb or at birth will go to Heaven because they have not reached the age of reason and accountablily. Gods character will not allow for the innocent to eternally perish. The answer to this quetion can be found in God's Character.
---Marcia on 7/7/07

Billy, I don't know why you made the comment on dividing the word of God and the examples you gave. When the writers of Scripture wrote they were inspired by God what to write. They were not looking for context to write in, they just wrote what God wanted them to write at the time. Reading the context is important to us not to them. What we need to do is read why something was said and to whom it was said to.
---mark on 7/6/07

Billy: Definitely no ill feelings. I'm glad we can agree on the point that really matters, i.e., GOD IS JUST. Peace! :)
---Leon on 7/5/07

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[1] Mark

Im sorry I didnt comment about the other 3/4 of your 8 part post. I really enjoyed how you so eloquently brough out the nature of what we are, and how all including infants have had no choice in being what we are. I agree that we must approach this issue with a humble spirit, and should only be approached with what limited scriptures we have. With the information the scriptures do give, I believe that we can accurately answer these questions, as I would pray that ive been trying to do.
---Billy on 7/5/07

[2] Mark

The areas of scripture that you menchened "human nature, salvation, imputation, and judgment" are very important in answering the question of infant salvation. To ignore these to the degree that anyone can skate around these issues "including infants" to enter Gods kingdom can lead to grose Biblical heresy. You are correct that these truths concerning the imputation of Adam's sin and resulting condemnation do have ramifications for this subject.
---Billy on 7/5/07

[3] Mark

This has caused us all to become guilty before God, including infants. Mark, im in full agreement with you on this, God bless.
---Billy on 7/5/07


Im sorry if you think that im just trying to butt against you, "which isnt the case". Im not intentionally trying to disagree with you. Its evident that we dont see eye to eye, so if we cant continue to discuss the scriptures for the benefit of the visitors that read these blogs, I would hope that there are no ill fellings between us. I do see where we do agree! GOD IS JUST, Peace to you.
---Billy on 7/5/07

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#1 Hello Mark

The Bible is the most quoted and most popular book in the world, and also the least understood book of all time. Why is a book so universally acknowledged as the Word of God, so completely misunderstood? God gives us His answer to this paradox. Within this answer we are given a key to unlocking the scriptures. The Apostle Paul said, the natural man receives not the things of the spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him:
---Billy on 7/5/07

#2 Mark

neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned "I Cor. 2:14". The natural mind may want to receive them but neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned. So no amount of writing, explaining or educating can give one the ability to spiritually discern His Word. Education is not the gift of the Spirit of God, but what did the church leaders say to Christ, How knoweth this man letters having never learned?
---Billy on 7/5/07

#3 Mark

The church leaders could not understand where his "knowledge of letters having never learned" came from, after all, Christ didnt learn them from their educational system. Jesus was astounding the church leaders at the age of 12. So how did He come by this knowledge? We are given the answer by Christ to a statement made by Peter. You are the Christ the son of the living God. "Matt. 16:16" Christ's response was Blessed art thou,
---Billy on 7/5/07

#4 Mark

Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven "Matt. 16:17". So no amount of education can give one spiritual discernment, only those to whom the Father reveals it. So could there be a connection between studying to show thyself approved, and rightly dividing the word of truth, to "spiritual discernment"? Christ and His apostles demonstrate to us how Gods Word is discerned.
---Billy on 7/5/07

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#5 Mark

All the apostles cannot tell us to rightly divide the Word by considering the context, and the words written, while they themselves ignored the context and gave different meanings to the words other than their original meaning. And yes they really did this! Ill give you one of many examples of how the apostles did this. The apostle John "Joh 2:16-17" speaks of Christ driving the money changers from the temple.
---Billy on 7/5/07

#6 Mark

And Jesus said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Fathers house an house of merchandise. And his disciples remembered that it was written; the zeal of your house has eaten me up. John took what Christ had did and refered it to a Psalm that David had written about himself, not Christ, "the zeal of your house has eaten me up." Lets look at what David said. It starts in Psa 69:5-9.
---Billy on 7/5/07

#7 Mark

In verse 5, David confesses "O God, thou knowest my foolishness; and my sins are not hid from thee". This is obviously not talking about our sinless Savior. David goes on in verse 6 and 7: "Let not them that wait on thee, O Lord God of hosts, be ashamed for my sake; let not those that seek thee be confounded for my sake, O God of Israel. Because for thy sake I have borne reproach; shame hath covered my face".
---Billy on 7/5/07

#8 Mark

Verse 8 - "I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children". Verse 9 - "For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproach thee are fallen upon me".

Mark, applying todays context hermeneutics, it would appear that John has taken this statement by David about himself, completely out of context and applied it to Christ. I do nothing no different when I quote scripture.
---Billy on 7/5/07

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#9 Mark

If I cant take the whole of scripture to prove 2Pet 3:9 is saying that God isnt willing that all of humanity shouldnt perish, not just that ive taken this scripture out of context, then you might have a cause to disagree. But there are more than enough scriptures to support my not so popular way of translating scripture. Psa 90:3, Psa 102:18-20, Lam 3:31-32, Isa 45:22, Isa 26:9, Rom 8:19-23, 1Tim 2:3-4, 1Joh 2:2, 1Joh 4:14, Act 3:20-21. God bless brother.
---Billy on 7/5/07

Never mind Billy: Regardless of what you, I or anyone else say in this matter, the Bible clearly shows GOD IS JUST. It's quite apparent, no matter what I say you're going to butt against it. So be it -- peace! :)
---Leon on 7/4/07

Only the Father knows everything. I can assure you, God does not send babies to Hell. And only a demonic mind would conceive such a notion, that He would, still born or otherwise.
---catherine on 7/4/07

Billy, I've read most your comments and many are correct but one that came to me that was not, is the one in 2 Peter 3:9. When the context is read, the "all" is speaking of the beloved, in verse 8, and the beloved are the believers. Since the whole passage is about God's destroying the wicked, His patience is not so He can save all of them, but so that He can receive all His own. He can't be waiting for everyone to be saved, since the emphasis is that He will destroy the world and the ungodly.
---mark on 7/3/07

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#2. Billy: The Bible teaches that all men are sinners, deserving of the wrath of God. It also clearly teaches that salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ. When discussing these truths, however, one question often comes up. "what is the eternal destiny of babies who die or the mentally retarded who are not able to comprehend the Gospel?" Do they go to heaven or hell? The issue of infant salvation is a difficult one to examine. It is difficult for the simple reason that the Bible
---mark on 7/3/07

#3. Billy: is not completely clear and does not address the topic. Nowhere does the Bible "explicitly" tell us, what happens to babies or the severely mentally retarded whey they die. First we must approach this issue cautiously and humbly, understanding that the amount of information God has given us is limited. For whater His reasons are, God has chsen not to reveal everything relation to this matter. we must start with what we do know from Scripture.
---mark on 7/3/07

#4. Billy: We must begin with a proper understanding of what the Bible says about such areas as sin, human nature, salvation, imputation, and judgment. When we have these basics down, then we are in a position to try to draw some conclusions about what happens to infants when they die. One passage that is always given that babies go to heaven is found 2 Samuel 12, concerning David's son. Some have taken David's statement to mean that David's baby went to heaven.
---mark on 7/3/07

#5. Billy: According to them David was saying that the deceased baby went to heaven and that someday, he (David) would join the baby in glory. These view does not fit the context of 2 Samuel very well. In verse 22 David discussed the possibility of the child surviving physically; in verse 23 he staed that it was impossible for the child to be brought back to life. The context of David's statements seem to directly relate to physical life and death.
---mark on 7/3/07

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Correction on my first post to you. It should read "Your age of accountability is not scriptural. Sorry
---Billy on 7/3/07

This straight-forward thought should be considered. "I have scant Biblical ammunition, but the other point of view doesn't either, and I say that children before the age of reasoning, get to go to Paradise, on the basis that Jesus died to take away the sins of All mankind. And surely our Great Saviour would have made provisions for the only partly mature humans afterlife, and it would be good.
---harold on 6/30/07"
---harold on 7/3/07

#6. Billy: When David says, "I shall go to him" David is declaring tha the baby will not come back to physical life, but he (David) will someday join the baby in physical death. Any study of salvation, including the issue of infants, must begin with a proper biblical understanding of sin. Often we try to deal with the issue of infant salvation by going around what the Scripture clearly says. The Bible clearly states that everyone conceived and born into the human race is a sinner.
---mark on 7/3/07

#7 Billy: As Romans 5:12 states, "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned." Because of our relationship to Adam, we as human beings are all sinners. Adam was the first man, and as such, he acted as the representative of the entire human race. We call this truth, the imputation of Adam's sin. Romans 5:19 "For as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners.
---mark on 7/3/07

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I can't believe that you would ask this question,if you had any real belief in Jesus Christ you wouldn't be asking this question,Jesus has taught us to have Faith in life and after life to think that a poor inocent baby who died at birth or was still born would go to hell is so rediculous that I think this person needs to seek Gods help,for him or her to think that this could happen I just can't believe that they are close to God or any higher power I really wish that this person or persons gets God.
---kevin on 7/3/07

#8. Billy: These truths concerning the imputation of Adam's sin and resulting condemnation have ramifications for this subject. When we understand that Adam's sin and condemnation have been imputed to the entire human race, we understand that there is no such thing as an innocent person or baby. All stand condemned before God. Now comes the "nature" and that is the capacity to do something. When we talk about having a sin nature, we are saying that all people are born with a bent toward evil.
---mark on 7/3/07

2/ Harold

You said, And surely our Great Saviour would have made provisions for the only partly mature humans afterlife, and it would be good.

Surely or Saviour will not only make provisions for the infants that have prematurely died, but for all of His creation. You said it your self that Jesus died to take away the sins of All mankind. When one hasnt gone through the maturing process "grace through faith", we are all infants no matter what our age.
---Billy on 7/3/07

3/ Harold

It might not be the way Orthodox Christianity would see our Great Saviour, but Jesus will not be denied of being the saviour of the world. Harold, let me ask you a question? Can Gods will ever be overthrown, or not come to pass "Dan 4:35"? So if its not Gods will that none should perish "2Pet 3:9", will God's will concerning his creation come to pass, or will his will fail to see all saved? God bless.
---Billy on 7/3/07

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1/ Leon

Im glad that God isn't subject to yours, mine or anyone else's rules (regulations). Eph 2:8 isnt my presumptive formula, but Gods. If you think the scriptures give another formula for salvation please enlighten me. I also thank you for correcting my spelling. God does have His way of keeping us humble, with me, its my spelling. You still lack the understanding of how Gods grace operates.
---Billy on 7/3/07

2/ Leon

Man has turned Gods grace into lasciviousness "Jude 1:4". Grace doesnt work free and unmerited favor from sin in the believers lives as you might think.
---Billy on 7/3/07

3/ Leon

The free gift of Grace chastens, to train up a child, that is, educate, or (by implication) discipline (by punishment), chasten, instruct, learn, and teaches us to denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, that we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world "Tit 2:11-12". If an infant hasnt gone through this process, it must go through the process in the second resurrection, "latter judgment". God Bless.
---Billy on 7/3/07

1/ Harold

You said, I say that children before the age of reasoning, get to go to Paradise,

Pro 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin? [10] Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD. [11] Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right.

Your age of accountability is scriptural.
---Billy on 7/3/07

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Great point Harold. Yes, "Jesus died to take away the sins of 'ALL' mankind." Hmmmm! All of our sins -- past, present & future. That means babies too!

Even though all babies (except the Lord Jesus Christ) are born with a sin nature, technically they aren't born sinning. Sin occurs, is activated, at a later time during their cognizant (awareness, knowledge) development.
---Leon on 7/1/07

I have scant Biblical ammunition, but the other point of view doesn't either, and I say that children before the age of reasoning, get to go to Paradise, on the basis that Jesus died to take away the sins of All mankind. And surely our Great Saviour would have made provisions for the only partly mature humans afterlife, and it would be good.
---harold on 6/30/07

Billy: Of course Is. 55:9 pertains to everyone's point of view in stark contrast & oftentimes opposition to God's point of view.

I'm very aware that salvation thru Jesus Christ is given by God's grace. :)

"If grace through faith has not worked in a babies[y's] life, it will miss the mark..." You missed the mark with this presumptive formula. God isn't subject to yours, mine or anyone else's rules (regulations). Again, friend...
IS. 55:9
---Leon on 6/30/07


You speak as if Isa 55:9 doesnt pertain to your point of view, but it does as well. Your point of view shows me your lack of understanding as to how Gods grace saves. If grace through faith has not worked in a babies life, it will miss the mark and be judged in the latter judgment "second resurrection." Sorry Leon.
---Billy on 6/29/07

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Ryan, How have you come to the conclusion all the Hebrew "little ones" mentioned in Numbers 14:31 & Deut. 1:39 were children "19 years old & younger"? Please cite your source(s).
---Leon on 6/29/07

Billy: You're looking at the situation from "Billy's" point of view, not God's. :)
Isaiah 55:9
---Leon on 6/29/07


Lack of knowledge has nothing to do with being saved.

Isa 5:13 Therefore my people are led away captive from lack of knowledge, and their nobility die of famine, and their multitude are parched with thirst.

Though babies dont have the ability to accept or reject knowledge, the lack of knowledge doesnt give anyone a free ticket to heaven. Sorry.
---Billy on 6/29/07

#1 Leon, the foundation of your position, as I am reading it (I may be wrong), is that ignorance is innocence. The danger of such a position is it creates complacancy and confusion. If ignorance equates to innocence then by telling people the gospel message you have removed their ignorance and there by destroyed their innocence. I do not see your ignorance=innocence argument supported in scripture.
---Ryan_Z on 6/29/07

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#2 Leon, Again, you are attempting to use one scripture, Deut 1:39, as though it exists in a vaccum. By ignoring other scriptures that relate to that scripture, such as Mumbers 14, you are ignoring the whole of scripture, which leads to improper interpretations. In your case you are claiming Deut 1:39 pertains to children and babies, when looked at in the whole of scripture it refers to Hebrew children 19 years and younger.
---Ryan_Z on 6/29/07

#3 Leon, If you want to use Deut 1:39 to establish that children go to heaven if they die and children are innocent then you should be saying all children 19 years of age and younger that die go to heaven and are innocent, because Deut 1:39 is speaking of children that were 19 years old and younger (According to Numbers 14).
---Ryan_Z on 6/29/07

Amanda: To answer your question, they go to Heaven. The Bible says (Deut. 1:39) babies are indeed born innocent in the sense they're born ignorant (unknowing, unaware of, have no knowledge) of their inherent (indwelling) sin nature.

Now, for the naysayers (smile), the Bible doesn't say human babies are born innocent in the sense of being unfallen, guiltless or otherwise free from sin. Rather, it says "all" have sinned & come short of GOD'S GRACE!

---Leon on 6/28/07

Amanda, cont'd: It's good news to "know" God is Holy & as such Just. He sends no one to Hell. But, "knowlegeable" people (persons who know better) choose to go to Hell when they reject the Word/Son of God. Obviously, babies can't make a Heaven or Hell choice. They don't know Hell from smell!

Yes Amanda, though we may not understand how or why, God's grace certainly extends to & saves infants. Amen! :)
---Leon on 6/28/07

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Luke 16
22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
---Matthew on 6/28/07

Babies have no sin?!? Romans 3:23 does not exclude babies. Of course babies are sinful becasue they are a part of the human family and every human is tainted.
---Ryan_Z on 6/28/07


You said, I no longer believe a word anyone says unless it is a quote from the bible. I feel the same way about you my dear sister. Could you give me a quote from scripture concerning the question ive been asking your for the umpteenth time. If you cant give me scripture to support your belief just say so. So please give me a scripture that states that at birth, babies are not sinful flesh in need of a saviour. Your lack to answer diminishes your stance
---Billy on 6/28/07

evevy one's spirt goes back to God from which it came but there body stays in the ground >when he comes back for his Bride he said the dead in christ will rise first that would include babies because they have no sin
---Betty on 6/27/07

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Billy: see that is the problem with many here and why I no longer believe a word anyone says unless it is a quote from the bible. Even when you are shown something in truth, you deny it, or completely ignore it. If you spent more time studying and not believing fiction from your own mind, you might learn something important. Next you will deny the resurrection and judgment too which wouldn't surprise me.
---ashley on 6/27/07


The sum of Gods word teaches that when we die, we dont live again till the resurrection. Christs death was no different. He was truly dead. He didnt go anywhere to preach to any spirits while he was dead. Scripture interprets scripture, so to stay consistent with the whole of scripture, the only time Jesus could have preached to these people is in Noahs day, not somewhere in a spiritual paradise after death. This isnt my private interpretation of scripture. Gods word gives us the answer.
---Billy on 6/27/07

*Christ preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing,*

Saying that Jesus preached to the Spirits in prison. The spirits of the people that lived in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared. Billy, you are giving a private interpretation, something you came up with.
---Matthew on 6/26/07


Christ preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, "1Pet 3:19-20." Ashley, Christ preached through Noah while the ark was being prepared, and he didnt go to a place called paradise after his crucifixion to preach to these people. Study your Bible, the sum of Gods word is truth.
---Billy on 6/26/07

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Keep up the good work. God bless
---Billy on 6/26/07

ashley, everyone does sleep in the grave and wait for the resurrection. Marilyn posted nothing outside of scripture. You, on the other hand, post things about a 'spirit prison' of which there is no evidence in the bible. Upon death, the spirit within man returns to God. This is a topic for a face-to-face bible study and is difficult to discuss on a blog site with limits of words etc...
---Ryan_Z on 6/26/07

Marilyn: in your blog, you failed to mention one thing. You believe everyone sleeps in their graves. That contradicts the words of Jesus Christ. today thou shalt be with me in paradise, not heaven, but in a spirit place to await the resurrection. Only our bodies of flesh sleep in the grave, our spirits are eternal and never die. To say that is false also calls the savior a lier when he visited the spirit prison to teach those who had died before noah and teach them his gospel. You can't have it both ways.
---ashley on 6/26/07

Billy, well okay then. Just as long as you're not saying that babies go to hell. I dont like to read that.
---sue on 6/26/07

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Oh,ye of little faith!
---Gordon on 6/26/07

GREAT ANSWER MARILYN!!!! So full of truth!
---Ryan_Z on 6/25/07

they simply are buried and await their ressurection. in daniels prophecy "And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, some to shame and everlasting contempt" (daniel 12:2). In explaining the condition of the dead, daniel compares death to sleep. How can people who have died be asleep in their graves and unconcious as revealed in the Bible yet be residing in heaven and looking down at our miseries on this earth or be in hell burning up
---Marilyn on 6/25/07

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