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30 Minutes of Silence

Can anyone tell me what the 30 minutes of silence the Bible speaks of in Revelation means?

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John.usa: "Steven, I take it back and I apologize. I don't teach. I don't have a college degree. Wish I did, but too late now. Too old. :)"

Contrary to popular belief, one does not need a college degree to teach. I didn't have a degree in business (except for the two years I attend a business college in the early 1970s), yet a private business college hired me because of my thirty years experience of starting, growing, selling and buying businesses. I am now certified in California to teach business subjects (business management, accounting, marketing, et. al).

If you have a yearning to teach why not start with the subjects you know - a hobby, past work experience, or even start your own home church.
---Steveng on 1/17/12


Warwick, Johnusa is a universalist, he is very kind answering but believes everyone will be forgiven at some time. No hell, no punisment, all will be dancing in heaven no matter what they have done, and no matter what Jesus said about the wicked. That would be great for all child killers and molesters, murderers, and the likes, why stop doing what they are doing, since they will be saved one day anyway.
---Mark_V. on 1/17/12


John, I truly would like to understand what it is you believe. Do you literally believe Jesus saved you by paying the literal price of Adam's sin or not? Or are both what Adam and Jesus did just figurative?
---Warwick on 1/16/12


Steven, I take it back and I apologize. I don't teach. I don't have a college degree. Wish I did, but too late now. Too old. :)
---John.usa on 1/16/12


John.usa: "Steven, you can call people all sorts of names and condemn them when they don't agree with you."

You falsely accuse me of two things.

1. Where in my post did I call someone "all sorts of names"?

2. And how did I condemn someone when I did not respond to people who did not agree with me?

(a slow night for me, didn't have to teach tonight ,=))
---Steveng on 1/16/12




Warwick, I'm not a skeptic. I'm just not a literalist. I believe in the Lord Jesus and that he wants to save me and has saved me. If you don't believe he has saved me, then take it up with Jesus, not me. God bless.
---John.usa on 1/16/12


John, people react a certain way to your use of "allegory" as we know you are a BiblioSceptic. To you the Bible is just some sort of story not ther Truth regarding where we will actually spend eternity. Adam really, historically sinned bringing the curse, creating the fallen sinful disease ridden world we now inhabit. This is real as is the fact Jesus came to really die because of what Adam really did. If you cannot accept this or do not understand this you are in mortal peril.
---Warwick on 1/16/12


Mark, not "just" an allegory. Why do you think a piece of writing is of less importance if it is an allegory? Revelation is more powerful as an allegory, not less.
---John.usa on 1/16/12


In any case, the book of Revelation remains an allegory, like it or not. God bless.
---John.usa on 1/15/12

I agree with Steveng.

Why would the the Revelation of JESUS CHRIST be such an important work that it needed to be sent to all the churches of its day if the book is just allegory?

Why would God need to send messages to the churches of its day if its just allegory? God sent the message to an Aposle who personally knew Jesus. I find that significant and I must pay attention to that.

I think you are justifying the means by the end result. I think you want to ignore the message of the Revelation by saying that it is just allegorical.
---Mark_Eaton on 1/16/12


Mark 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Revelation 19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

All the angels in heaven come with Jesus to gather the saints. SInce there is no one in heaven, them there is nopraise in heaven, no sining, no worship Then theresi silence since all the angels are on earth with Jesus

It is after the 7 seals, trunpet, and so on that Jesus returns
Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
---francis on 1/15/12




Steven, you can call people all sorts of names and condemn them when they don't agree with you. But it is rude. In any case, the book of Revelation remains an allegory, like it or not. God bless.
---John.usa on 1/15/12


1.44 ...

inverse 1/1.44 = 0.694444...

'7169' Before the flood + ~7010 BC + 2012 = ~'16,191' years.

23,315.04 seconds/360 = 64.764 minutes, this is the final hour. 64.764 - 49 = 15.764...

which shows 1332 in reverse x 10 + 5. 1332 = 666 x 2


---johannes_estoniessage on 1/15/12


Pastor Marcia, when you begin with false assumptions you will never end up with the truth.

God is outside of time, not living in days of any length. Nowhere in Scripture does it say a day is 1,000 years to God. God is eternal therefore does not exist in time as eternity is an absence of time.

Time was created for man, on this planet, where one day is one rotation of the earth, c24hrs.
---Warwick on 1/15/12


I believe that the 30 minutes of silence is the amount of time it will take to seal the 144,000 before the 1st trumpet sounds. Rev 7 1-4 tells us that an angel ascends crying do not hurt the earth or sea until we have sealed the servants. The 144,000 are the first fruits who follow the Lamb wherever He goes and have no lie in their mouth. They are the ones redeemed from the earth hence the first fruits.

The 144,000 will be the preachers and teachers during the time when the seven trumpets will sound. Those who heed their voices and learn the truth found in the testimony of Jesus Christ will be the Bride. Note in Rev. 7 verse 14 we are shown the Bride who has come thru the Great Tribulation. We see the Bride again in Rev 19 6-8.
---barb on 1/15/12


Pastor_Marcia, you have way too much time on your hands. I figure that by Jethro math Ugh.... Ought x ought = ought. That is like fairy tale religion. So according to you and your mind the Great Tribulation is going to run 7,000 years and now more.
Let's try that a space of time that is 30 minutes is actually 30 minutes.
The focus is not the time anyway. It should be on the horrible event. When the judgment is revealed it is so bad that everyone just takes a deep breath and is silent for a space of time. You would act the same way if you saw a tremendous accident and many people getting hurt/killed
---Elder on 1/15/12


Allegory?

Christians today do not understand Revelation because they are too educated - and arrogant. How would a person in Jesus' time describe a future object - a flying helicopter, for instance? A person living two thousand years from now would laugh at the way science fiction writers today described thier future just as we today mock John about his describing the end times. John describe future events with the knowledge and vocaulary they used in his time.

As for the thirty minutes, read the many different replies. Can't you just accept the fact that there is to be thirty minutes of silence without guessing the reason why?
---Steveng on 1/13/12


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This is the final hour...

ie. 60 minutes x 60 seconds

5 more minutes/seconds or degrees or days on the calendar:

5/360 = 0.013888888888888...

1338.888... - 1335 = 3.888...

6 more minutes/second or degrees for the leap years:

6/360 = 0.016666666666666...

0.016666.. - 0.013888... = 0.002777777777777... = 1/500 + 1/1285.714285714

1290 is written and 490 = 500 - 10 = 70 x 7.

where: pi < 22/7.

inverse 7/22 = 0.318181818181818...
---johannes_davidstones on 1/14/12


The silence is in response to what the Scroll reveals.

The Scroll reveals the wrath of God on the inhabitants of the Earth. When the Scroll is finally opened, all of Heaven knows what God has in store for His enemies still on Earth. And all of Heaven is stunned at the wrath of God. And all of Heaven is silent while they are stunned.
---Mark_Eaton on 1/14/12


Since the book of Revelation is an allegory, the thirty minutes is allegorical. One doesn't determine time in the realm of the eternal. :)
---John.usa on 1/13/12


Marcia, why all the equations? What does that have to do with 30 minutes of silence? Can you not just take the passage as it is written? "When He opened the Seventh seal there was silence in heaven for about half an hour" Why is half an hour not half an hour? What he is saying is that the silence of awe is the anticipation at the grim reality of the judgments God is about to unleash.
---Mark_V. on 1/10/12


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//30 minutes of silence equals a period of 20 years and 10 months. // Marcia

what does ABOUT 30 minutes of silence equal?

are verses 2-6 happening in the almost hal hour or after.? some versions say 'then' and some say 'and'.
---aka on 1/9/12


30 minutes of silence equals a period of 20 years and 10 months. The way to figure this out is by the usage of an algebra equation. 1000 years (a)with man = 1 day (24 hours)(b)with the Lord, so 1000a=24b, a =24/1000b, a = .024b = .024(60 minutes), so 1 year (a)(1000/1000) for man = 1.44 minutes(b) for God. 30 minutes for God is derived by multiplying 1.44 by 20.83, thus, we must multiply "a" by 20.83, which would equal 20.83 years or 20 years and 10 months.
---Pastor_Marcia on 1/9/12


The 30 minutes of silence is the period between
the physical birth of the Son of man(second coming),and the time when he started his prophecy(1984).
---duke on 12/15/07


Bill, that was good. The incense is the aroma, not the prayers themselves. In the OT, what caused the incense to rise was a firey coal...and the only place you could get it was from the brazen altar (the altar of sacrifice). That fire came from God when the sacrifice was consumed and that fire is what causes the incense to rise. As long as the coals were hot, the smell of the sacrifice was in His nostrils. And that is a fire that never goes out for our eternal God is a consuming fire.
---Linda on 6/14/07


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No sacrifice, no aroma ascending. Prayers set on fire by the once for all sacrifice are a sweet smell to God...and we are called the aroma of Christ. There is a greater dimension of prayer than just praying. It is called "being an answer to prayer". Jesus' prayer in John 17 has its answer fulfilled in a people. Can we say "living sacrifice in the earth" and "Lamb as though it had been slain standing in the midst of the throne in heaven"? Any other fire will get you killed.
---Linda on 6/14/07


When I saw the title, I thought CN was asking for 30 minutes of silence from all the members of the Bickersons family.
How about 30 minutes of silence?
---Bob on 6/14/07


The host of heaven accompanies Jesus to earth to invoke the wrath of God immediately follow the tribulation period. No activity in heaven, thus silence. Amos.8:2 "The end [of this age] is come upon my people Israel; I will not again pass by them anymore. And the songs of the temple [Where the Antichrist has set up camp] shall be howling in that day, saith the LORD GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth in silence."
---joseph on 6/14/07


The word can mean the silence is enforced, like how when ones in a gathering shhh each other to be quiet when it is time to pay attention to someone or something as a group.

So, this could go with what Linda said.
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/13/07


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Revelation 8:1 > "When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour." And the seven angels are given trumpets (8:2); then another angel prepares to offer incense "with the prayers of all the saints" (8:3), and incense smoke ascends before God (8:4).

What I see is there has been enough prayer talk, and now the sweet-smelling aroma is what makes the prayers pleasing to God > not choice of words, but the spirit brings results > see 1 Peter 3:1-4.
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/13/07


The fact that this silence took place after the opening of the seventh seal of the book in the Lamb's hand and right before the angels were given the seven trumpets tells me that these trumpets that were about to sound were the end of all silence and were very important to hear. Sound is always magnified when there is silence. I believe the symbolism here denotes a clear sounding word so important that it is preceded by a silence so that it is sure to be heard.
---Linda on 6/13/07


Also, in Joshua 6, there was the silence of the people until they were commanded to shout and the walls came down. And this can also be tied to the years of silence between Malachi and Matthew before Jesus shows up on the scene.
---Linda on 6/13/07


Matthew Henry's Commentary offers 2 possibilities:

1. the silence of peace
2. a silence of expectation

Another commentary:

3. so prayers of saints & martyrs can be heard
4. to demonstrate a sober, awestruck silence at the judgments to come
---a_servant on 6/13/07


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