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I Never Knew You

When Matthew 7:21-23 said that "Not every one that saith unto me Lord Lord, shall enter in. If this were talking to Christians then please explain to me how he could say in verse 23 "I never knew you" If Jesus never knew you does that not mean you weren't a Christian to begin with.

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I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
All things are delivered unto me of my Father:

and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father,
neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son,
and- to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
---TheSeg on 10/18/10


Who was looking for a kingdom on earth?
****

until Christ the MESSENGER of the gospel (aka good news) of Gods Kingdom (aka government) on earth

until John the Baptist announced the Messiah had been born and would fulfill Holy Scripture it would be impossible

The Pharisee's were not looking for Gods Kingdom on Earth they were too busy creating rules ABOUT a God they had long forgot - they wanted freedom from oppression of governments on earth

When Christ RETURNS to earth HE will RULE from Jerusalem

Christ simply explained MANY would call on His name YET do not obey or follow Him and He will say to them I never knew you

to FOLLOW Christ is a Christian - the Disciples followed
---Rhonda on 10/18/10


Hi all
I dont believe its he that never knew you. (Come-on he knows all!)
Its you that never knew him. (In-saying, this is what and how to believe!)

Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and shall deceive many.

Luk 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

So, be not deceived!
Believe in and with your heart!
God Bless you all!
---TheSeg on 10/18/10


Reba, that was a great answer you gave. What I believe will happen is that those who use the name of the Lord to make money, at the expense of many older people they deceive, will get more in punishment then those who didn't know Him. They have the nerve because they are living right now to deceive many people and don't have to worry about death for now, but death will come, and when the books are opened they will get what they deserve.
---MarkV. on 10/18/10


God never knew them, because they never knew God.

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God, but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
---francis on 10/18/10




//interesting
Disciples were no less "christian" because Christ had not died yet ...HIS death much more than salvation He was messenger for Gods Kingdom on earth//

Who was looking for a kingdom on earth?
Not the BoC.
Did you ever notice who he ministered to during his earthly ministry? Ck Rom 15:8
---michael_e on 10/18/10


MATTHEW 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, LORD, LORD, (HAVE WE) not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name HAVE cast out devils.and in thy name done many wonderful (WORKS?)
(These are people that are trying to get to HEAVEN by there Works) Salvation is a Gift of GOD, Not by WORKS?
---RICHARD on 10/17/10


There have been & will continue to be, Many who use God's name to make a fat salary. Performing "miracles" of sorts to draw the crowds in. But some of these have no real power of the Holy Spirit working through them. It's for their glory,not God's. Many pastor's, Priest's & church minister's are doing the same thing. There for what they can get out of it. Their hearts have never been given to the Lord. I believe that's the people who will here the Lord say, "Depart from me, I never knew you."
---Reba on 10/16/10


Their many works caused them to believe that they had attained their salvation. The Scripture is saying that not everyone who professes Christ is genuinely saved. Even the outward verbal acknowledgment of His Lordship is in itself not enough to save the unbeliever apart from true repentance and faith. A genuinely saved person is one THAT DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER, means he is continually living in obedience as his normal course of life. He may fail at times, but his general course of consistency is to obey the will of the Father.
---catherine on 10/16/10


Churches of men, you look nothing like Me!... Nor do you really know Me. And what of all these riches? Are they able to keep you from the Day of My hot displeasure?... No. For they have become shackles about your feet...

You are given up and left to refinement, stripped of all your clothes,
Left to the world, which you have loved more than Me...

A world which shall hate you, in which you shall serve...

Rev 18:4 Then I heard another voice out of heaven say: "My people, come out of her! so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not be infected by her plagues,
---Peter on 10/16/10




"If this were talking to Christians"
These were not "Christians" as we know in the BOC, Christ had not yet died.
*****

interesting

Disciples were no less "christian" because Christ had not died yet ...HIS death much more than salvation He was messenger for Gods Kingdom on earth

Christ stated that MANY would call on His name professing Him as their savior and singing His praises yet they will not follow Him or OBEY Him Matt 7:13, 14 ...they will continue to live in world following world and its traditions Mark 7:9, Titus 1:16

...Christ will say YOU never followed and obeyed me - I don't know you

many CLAIM christianity by mouth yet actions are of the world
---Rhonda on 10/15/10


10-4 to the posts of char on 10/4.
---aka on 10/13/10


"If this were talking to Christians"
These were not "Christians" as we know in the BOC, Christ had not yet died.
---michael_e on 10/5/10


Those that are genuine Christians are born of His Spirit.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

This is something one realizes within oneself when one mets Jesus and accepts Him as Lord & Savior.

While ones life is being transformed by the Holy Spirit into the image of Christ - a process defined by the doctrine of sanctification, instant purity in walk and understanding of doctrine become a lifetime goal for the Christian.

Unfortunately the devil's children (followers of false prophets) will constantly accuse the Christian of sinful behavior teaching another Jesus and a different gospel. 2 Cor. 11:4
---leej on 10/5/10


That is exactly right. Most, do not come close to knowing what a true Christian is all about....Well, I will tell you. Does the Person of the holy spirit live in you? If yes, then you are a true Christian.
---catherine on 10/5/10


Jesus had just warned his listener to enter through the narrow gate (Matt. 7:13), which is through faith by itself (John 6:29). Then warns about false prophets who would lead them into down the broad road, which is through self effort (Galatians 3:1-3). Then in Matt. 7:22 he warns that many will say "but look what I have done for you. Here is MY work for you, why can't I enter?"

but Romans 14:23 tells us that anything not of faith is sin. That's why he calls them workers of iniquity. Some would try to obtain heaven through their works instead of faith in Jesus (Romans 10:1-4) and would find they never had been born again (John 3:7).
---James_L on 10/5/10


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Trey, you gave a great answer on 10/8/07. That was an answer that I would take to the heart. Wow, you have been here a while because I have seen your name lately a few times, Praise God.
---MarkV. on 10/5/10


When the Word of God is confirmed-our word or mans word is exposed by the light.
---Humbles us-repentance to remission-
We praise Him for His mercy and grace.
God is God and as creator He is well aware of how our minds work.
He is Love-through this Love we have forgiveness.
---char on 10/4/10


Three examples of those who do not know Jesus.

The Jewish people as a whole believe in God but denied Jesus the son.

The Jehovah witness people believe in Jehovah but do not believe in Jesus Christ.

The Moslems say that God has no son thereby denying the Lord Jesus Christ.

All of the above say they know God. But the Bible says,

1st John 2,22-23,"22-Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

23-Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."
---mima on 10/4/10


To my understanding,
those he does not know will be those who are believing and serving another-word.Some claim they believe in Jesus but the Jesus they believe in is the word of man. Example:
*Jesus as just a prophet
*Jesus as a savior or messiah but just man and not the Eternal Word of God in flesh.
*or claim to have the word of God-that can only be understood by their translation from their organization or some elect clan or special book etc....

God's Word-is Eternal.
God spoke it out-it became flesh.
Immanuel-God with us.
Holy Spirit with us now-in covernant.
The bride to be is the chaste virgin.

Some will be decieved and impregnated with another word-instead when Christ returns for His bride.
---char on 10/4/10


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I never knew you. I never knew you to bow your knee to receive My salvation.

The other, I know ye not. Is like those that are luke warm christians. Even those that try to serve God & the devil also.
---Lawrence on 8/7/10


There is a great song on an Oak Ridge Boys album.
"Sorry, I never knew you.Depart from me, forever more,
Sorry, I never knew you,
Go and serve the one that you served before,"

We read the words of Jesus,who said 'Many are invited,but few are chosen" (Matt. 22:14). Only those with a pure heart,humble Spirit, are worthy to be called "disciples of Christ"
---rosem4839 on 10/11/07


Mima, There was a famous evang.many years ago named Marjoe G. He was a child prodigy and could preach the varnish of the chairs. He was NEVER a believer but multitudes were healed and saved at his crusades. Later in life he made a movie"MARJOE" where he confessed he never believed one word he preached. He even mocked the Holy Spirit. It's the WORD & the Name of Jesus that healed and saved. Miracles are 'no proof' of knowing Jesus.
---jack8937 on 10/10/07


Jesus said, if you love me, you will obey me. This is the dividing line, whether or not we are saved. If we live our life to suit ourselves and disobey Gods laws, it is clear that we do not love him, and his word to us, is Depart from me, ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. Terribly sad, indeed.The worse words that we can ever hear.
The word says that the devils believe the word of God, but we all know that they do not follow it, same goes for us.We can believe, but, if we don't obey, we are lost.
---Gayla on 10/9/07


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Absolutely Trey, Jesus 'never' said words lightly. It's sometimes helpful to consider not only what Jesus said, but what He did NOT say as well. Jesus did NOT say, I use to know you but I don't any more. Jesus said NEVER and He meant 'NEVER'.Those to whom Jesus will say those words are the ones He warned of calling them DECEIVERS.They may have deceived men, but NOT Jesus. All deceivers believe God is blind.Love to all who seek TRUTH
---jack8937 on 10/9/07


Hopefully we will not hear those words at the Judgment. But that would be wishful thinking. Everyone that is passing for a Christian now will no longer be able to pretend on that day. God knows every heart and mind. We cannot and won't be able to fool Him, not even now, and certainly not then. I pray I will be able to pass the test and hear those words" Well done, good and faithful servant. I pray you will also. God be with you always.
---Robyn on 10/9/07


it means you were not of his will. think on mega churhes with mega pastors who are filling the house up to the top. if he is not doing anything for the glory of god and just for this new "political" thing we now call "church" then its not god's will. our actions, all of them should be not for self but god. they were once christians but have fallen out of gods will and now act for self. and he knows not their name. they took a gift from god and used it for self.
---amelia on 10/9/07


Amen miles........
---JIM on 10/9/07


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An analogy: Do you know who George Bush is? Most do. Are you a Republican? Many are. Do you actively give your time and money to their cause? Some do. Does George Bush know you? Probably not. George knows those who he works with, spends time with, etc.,etc. Jesus, who is God, knows His sheep. They hear His voice and follow Him. Many claim to be Christian, true Christians have an intimate relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. Unsaved religious people will not enter heaven.
---Miles on 10/9/07


Correct! the person looked like they were following Jesus when they weren't. Their lips were moving, but their hearts weren't there.
---candice on 10/8/07


People to who Jesus said," I never knew you" did in fact know Jesus they had done mighty works in his name. So they actually knew power of Jesus's name better than you and I, if we are not doing like works. The cutting edge of the whole matter is that they had not asked Jesus Christ to come into their lifes and save their souls. Had they have asked he would have come. John 637
---Mima on 10/8/07


He is not talking to true Christians. Not everyone professing Christ are truly saved, by Jesus. Workers of iniquity. They continue to work iniquity. God never knew you.>>>Note: James reminds us that we are showing faith by our works. Faith is the root of Salvation and works are its fruit. Also note: The entire Sermon on the mount is adressed to believers and presupposes faith in Jesus as Messiah.
---catherine on 10/8/07


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Gerry - jesus commandments are to love God with all your heart and neighbor as self. He specifically said in these two rest all the law and the prophets (Mat 22:40 )
Why try to hang a burden on people that Jesus did not?

Do you have a personal agenda? Do you get brownie points in heaven for bringing people into your denomination?
Please consider your motives is all I ask.
---caleb on 10/8/07


I believe Matt 7:21-23 is telling us that He has never had a relationship with these people. He never knew them as one of His. These are goats and not sheep.

Can a goat become a sheep? Can a sheep become a goat?

I see God's foreknowlege of his sheep in this. (Rom 8:29). Foreknowlege being that intimate knowlege that God has with his people in that he loved them even before they were born (Eph. 1:4).

Do any of you agree?
---trey on 10/8/07


Gerry: It isn't about the 10 Commandments. In the New Testament, Jesus gave us Commandments because it is impossible for a person to always abide by the 10 commandments. When Jesus said I never knew you, he is talking about the sinners and the backsliders. God is going to separate the sheep from the goats. Read Matthew 25:32-46. Again it has nothing to do with the 10 Commandments.
---Rebecca_D on 10/7/07


I believe that Jesus is talking about the uselessness of outward profession only. The day of judgement will reveal strange things. We must make a "practice" of our Christianity as well as a "profession". It is not a "religion" it is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. We should be real, true and sincere. We should often "judge ourselves, that we be not judged" and condemned by the Lord. Examine ourselves whether ye be in the faith(2 Corinthians 13:5).
---Cynthia on 10/7/07


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It has nothing to do with being "Christian"
Religion has nothing to do with it. You can be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Taoist, or even Agnostic. Jesus is saying KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS. At the end of times, those who DID NOT keep the 10 commandments will be told by Jesus, "I never knew you."
---Gerry on 10/7/07


Well, I do not have time to look for the appropriate heading.>>>>>> There is only one God, and you put Him on a cross. ++
---catherine on 6/29/07


Yes, two possiblites. They were never Christian or they were and walked away. Which in that case God can forgive but seldom does. And don't forget, you have your hypocrites, who believes they will go to heaven and to fall so short of heaven.
---catherine on 6/28/07


I never knew you: Jesus was making it known to us all today, what He will do on judgement day to all those who refuse help to the needy or anyone we could have helped. If u know today that u have been one of these, repentence and turn to God's ways will see you right with God on that day.
---jana on 6/28/07


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1 John 2:4-6 - He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
---Gayla on 6/27/07


He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
---Gayla on 6/27/07


2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 - In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power
---Gayla on 6/27/07


I think to sum it up, God is not looking for lip service, nor is he interested in any kind of show,he is concerned about what is in the heart of man, so, we can talk a good talk, but, if we do not have the walk to back it up......WE COULD FIND OURSELVES LEFT OUT!!! Be Blessed !!!!
---Gayla on 6/27/07


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**Matthew..you said:One of the main reasons we are saved and become members of the body of Christ is to do good works
I don't agree with that.We were not saved to do good works.
We do good works because we are SAVED. There is a big difference my friend.
---JIM on 6/27/07


A servant, there is no such thing as love without works. Love is action. Love is also obedience and sacrifice. The love of God is obeying Him, and the love of others is doing things for them.

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

---Matthew on 6/27/07


Love as a feeling is not real love. We can feel warm and all wonderful instead with all lovy kinds of feelings, but if we aren't obeying Him, he could care less what "love" we feel. This is the same for others. When your wife or parents ask you to do something do you do it? Of course. Why? Because you love them. God shouldn't be treated any different. In all honesty he is to be treated even better than our parents.
---Matthew on 6/27/07


One of the main reasons we are saved and become members of the body of Christ is to do good works(obeying Jesus' commandments of love).

Ephesians 2
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
---Matthew on 6/27/07


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Adam knew Eve his wife; she conceived.
knew = intimacy

Each entering a covenant with Jesus are His "wife". (Bride - Rev 21:9) Is 54:5, 62:5; Jer 3:14, 31:32; Rom 7:4; 2 Cor 11:2 all speak to God marrying His people.

Jesus is saying, "I was never intimate with you for I had no marriage covenant with you."

"Using my Name to access my Power is not a covenant of marriage with me."

"Depart"

Christian = Christ's wife.
---a_servant on 6/26/07


The devils believe & are not saved - Ja 2:19.
Mt 7:22-23 Many think because they use His name to do wonders = they are saved. Doing wonders does not save anyone.

To be saved, you must have His Spirit - Rom 8:9.

Mt 22:37-40 Love is the glue to Jesus, not works, not even wonderful works. Love fulfills the Law - Rom 13:8, Gal 5:14.

Simply put, Jesus saves those that love Him. Love = obeying. Others get outer darkness.
---a_servant on 6/26/07


people whom claim the name ,but never follow through with it or just "play church" never really knows Christ, therefore christ doesnot acknowledge or know them.
---Candice on 6/26/07


When Jesus or God are talking--they always give conditions--I will know you if you have done the will of God the father. The will (desire) is not false acts of righteousness, the type of works Jesus talks produce fruit that God recognizes---false teachers obtain man's praise, not God's. Same words, different results.
---Jay on 6/25/07


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One can know about Jesus, but they truly do not know Him. You have to be in a relationship with someone to know them, right? Jesus was speaking of those people who call themselves Christians, but never develop a close relationship with Him, therefore He says to them, "I never knew you." Are you His child? How do you know? I know that I know I am because I am in a love relationship with Jesus. I worship Him daily. I pray to Him daily. I sing songs unto Him daily and I obey His word at all cost.
---donna on 6/25/07


Matthew, I think we need to agree here that we disagree on eternal security. I believe that I am sealed unto the day of redemtion and it sounds like you believe that a true Christian can loose their salvation. I would have to say let people be truly in the Spirit and let the Spirit reveal it to them. I do enjoy most of your post though. God bless brother.
---evangelistjerry on 6/24/07


It is a matter of the heart, not works. If you are willing - to be acquiescent, disposed to comply passively, without protest. Willing to rest contently in Him & be obedient - to listen carefully to his Word, hearing intelligently. Quick to comprehend, depending completely upon His empowerment & are willing to share the voice of His word with others. You will mentally consume the firmness of His character that will ensure a "well done, good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of the LORD."
---josef on 6/24/07


Jerry please look at the verses.

2 Peter 2
18For when they(false teachers) speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those(Christians, only they have escaped error) that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

19While they(false teachers) promise them(Christians) liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
---Matthew on 6/24/07


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2)
2 Peter 2
20For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

It's a warning to Christians to avoid false teachers.
---Matthew on 6/24/07


3) Jerry, even if it was talking about false teachers. It is talking about people who

1) Escaped the world thourgh Jesus Christ.

2) Returned back to the world after having overcome it through Jesus

3) Would of been better off never knowing the ways of rightesousness then knowing it then turning against it.(a worse punishment then an unbeliever).

---Matthew on 6/24/07


I am sure there are many who believe they are truly Christians simply because they go to church often and try to live a good life but have never really come to Him as Lord and Savior in a spirit of repentance. To me, those are who verses like that are intended for.
---maryj9396 on 6/23/07


Matt 7:23
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It's not a figure of speech, it's an actual scripture.

I think you meant, "Jesus will lower the boom", which is a figure of speech.

"Lowering the Boom" has to due with a crane, as in heavy machinery, crane operator.
---Jenny on 6/23/07


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I would not say, "Depart from me I never knew you", Is a figure of speech. Jesus, may not say the exact words, But what He will do will be. That scripture is for the hypocrites, who somehow feels they can get into heaven unsaved, Not bought by the Blood of Christ, And say, "Lord, Lord", and get in. "We did this Lord, You know we did that". Then Jesus is going to lower the broom. Just a figure of speech. But anything God says, You better take it to heart.
---catherine on 6/23/07


Read all of John 10:26-30, part of it says I know them, If Jesus knows his own how then can he say he never new you. I have not seen anywhere in the Bible where demons call Jesus Lord, it says that they know Jesus, but they do not call him Lord. If you read 2nd Peter 2:20&21 you also have to read the context of verse 18&19.
---evangelistjerry on 6/23/07


The latter is that is worse is because they were promised happiness and basically a better life and when tribulation comes they become more bitter thereby the "latter is is worse" they are more bitter toward God in the end than in the beginning. For Hebrews 10 26-31 many people have the knowledge of the truth but the key here is did they apply the knowledge.
---evangelistjerry on 6/23/07


I at one time did not believe in eternal security, but through the Spirit he has showed me many reasons why once a person TRULY comes to Christ he cannot lose his Salvation. You can only be born of the flesh once and of the Spirit once. If one sin will cause you to lose your place without repenting then what about a person that sins and dies before they have a chance to repent. If this is true then Paul himself would not be in heaven because Paul himself fought with sin.
---evangelistjerry on 6/23/07


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He said when he does sin it is not he but sin that lives within him, read Romans 7:7-25. As one said you cannot take 1 or 2 verses to see the whole truth.
---evangelistjerry on 6/23/07


I believe it means exactly what it says. The Bible speaks of those who preach the gospel out of selfish gain and of false teachers and phropets as well as believers who are using their faith to embetter their worldly life or social status. Some seek approval of man and not God. Look at the billion dollar industry of TV evangilism. Was it supposed to be sold? It says "they will make merchandise of you". Yes, some he never knew.
---jody on 6/23/07


To "know" someone in this context is to have entered into a covenant with them. Anyone can claim to be a Christian, but unless you have properly entered into and kept the covenant with Him, you are not saved. The New Testament preaches the New Covenant which is different from the Old Covenant which has now ceased.
---lorra8574 on 6/23/07


Many christians profess Jesus Christ and then openly mock him by living their lives in complete opposite to what he taught. They lie, cheat, steal, commit adultery,fornication, abuse drugs, abuse their families, profanity, hate others, condemn those living Christ like lives. Indulge in every sin in the world and then say they love him. You would live your life by example to truly show you love him, not in disobedience thinking you are forgiven. Jesus knows his sheep. Ye shall know them by their fruits.
---ashley on 6/23/07


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Yes, I would agree that "never knew you" means he never knew you. It doesn't say "I've removed you" or "I've quit knowing you."
---john on 6/23/07


He is talking about two kinds of people. The Sinner, and the backsliders. The bible tells us that when a Christian backslides into the world, all the good that they've done won't be remembered by God. for they have to start a whole new relationship with God. And if they like the sinners die without Christ in their heart, Christ will tell them, I never knew you. Where a tree shall fall, is where it will land. If you die a sinner/backslider you'll be raised as a sinner/backslider.
---Rebecca_D on 6/23/07


It might be worth pointing out here that contrary to popular and conventional wisdom, "know" has sexual significance only about 1% of the time.

CF use of YADAH in Hebrew, where of nearly 1000 uses, only 10 have exual meaning.
---Jack on 6/23/07


The "never knew you" is a figure of speach. Please read 2 Peter 2:20-22 and Hebrews 10:26-31
Romans 11:17-24

We can't depend solely on one scripture to prove or disprove correct doctrine.


Read the parable of the unforgiving servant(Was told for believers)Matthew 18:23-35 and please read all the scriptures about how God will not forgive us if we don't forgive others.
---Matthew on 6/23/07


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According to the Bible, "the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch." This was not a medal pinned on them by Christ (as Jerry seems to be thinking) but was an identifying label given by those who didn't like them.

It doesn't say, "the disciples at a deep enough level" or "the disciples who profited from the teachings of Christ as much as they could." Just "the disciples": good, bad, and indifferent.
---Jack on 6/23/07


Even the demons can call Jesus Lord. However those that have walked daily with Him, listening to His voice, doing His will, are the ones who know Him and He knows them
---Vignia on 6/22/07


Firstly, Jesus was Teaching the crowds and His Disciples, the BE-Attitudes, and none were christians, during His time on Earth.
After Pentecost, Believers in Christ, are
called ONLY to DO the WILL of the Father, mainly by not being Hearers of the Word, only but DOERS.(Lk 6:46,Rom 2:13) Brian. 6933
---BRIAN on 6/23/07


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