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Why Are We Disciplined

If God forgets forgiven sins, why are we still disciplined?

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We are disciplined because we still do sin. It is all over sin. >>>When Adam opened the door for sin, two vicious criminals also rushed in and immediately began tormenting the human race. Their names of these terrible gangsters are physical and spiritual death. Physical death we must experience death. Because of sin there is spiritual death. All unsaved people will someday be forever separated from God in the lake of fire. Because of SIN.++
---catherine on 7/22/07

So we won't steal or lie. I am wondering why we put anyone in jail for stealing. It is hypocritical. Because there is so much legal stealing going on today. And can you beat this with a stick? Sometimes the law will back up the stealing and the lieing. [The law will back us up] Does anyone out there see where I am coming from?
---catherine on 7/21/07

"If God forgets forgiven sins, why are we still disciplined?"

If He really forgives you for something, I'd say He WON'T then PUNISH you for it. But there still are some things that can happen >

a. There can be consequences that come because of what you did . . . not God punishing you, but what your sin has caused.
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/15/07

b. In order to PROTECT you from what your sin could cause, God may bring in something hard to prevent that > like if you have started a forest fire near your house, it might be good to set a preventive fire, though it may destroy things around your house. Or, after you have abused yourself, you may need corrective, painful surgery to prevent the full consequences of your abuse.
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/15/07

c. You may have been forgiven, but He may arrange so you do not have opportunity to do it again. You need to be TESTED, before you can be trusted again in that situation, perhaps. So, He may surgically change your life . . . not to punish you, but to make sure you change and learn what you need to do better.
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/15/07

c. If your sin involves betrayal of trust . . . God may arrange so you can't do it again until you have been TESTED to see if you can be trusted. Consider 1 Timothy 3:1-10 > even ones worthy to be considered for ordination to care for God's church, though forgiven, need to be "tested" "first".
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/15/07

d. If your request for forgiveness was sincere, it is understood that God will discipline you in the way that will change you so you can't do that again. His scourging (Hebrews 12:6) whips us into shape . . . wakes us up . . . "that we may be partakers of His holiness." (in Hebrews 12:10) So, it's NOT a punishment, but a correcting blessing.
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/15/07

e. "Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful, nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it." (Hebrews 12:11)

He grieves our selfish nature with His chastening . . . driving that out of us so we can now enjoy Him in His sweetly kind peace.
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/15/07

f. If you are on Daddy's lap, you will be corrected closely and immediately, so you keep on being so close and intimate with Dad.

But if you are a kiddo out playing in the swamp . . . may be, he won't be so closely disciplining you, and you will be getting eaten alive by mosquitoes and diseases.

It's better with God and His standards.
---Bill_bila5659 on 7/15/07

cynth9664: You said it perfectly.
---Marcia on 7/14/07

If your son broke a window out of anger, you would discipline him out of love, because if you never discipline him for wrong doing he will grow up to be a Juvenile and just might end up in prison. Once he repents and the wrong is corrected you don't keep throwing it in his face. You move on.
---Marcia on 7/14/07

Discipline is one of the sure marks of the children of God, they kiss the rod. And the more the Lord chastens them, the more they cling to him.
---cynth9664 on 7/13/07

We are disciplined so we can learn.
We are not sinners, we are saints that just need to learn and grow in the lord.
---duane on 6/27/07

Because we are still sinners. It has everything to do with sin. It also teaches us obedience. Also to keep us from going astray. We are suppose to ask God to teach us when we are being disciplined. But again it has everything to do with SIN. God hates sin. If you have ever been disciplined by God it is no picnic, and it really hurts, depending I suppose the degree of punishment, He decides to dish out to you. You really do not want to be around someone that God is dealing with.
---catherine on 6/26/07

Is 48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
Hosea 5:15 their affliction they will seek me early.
Zech 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried
1 Pt 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire,
---a_servant on 6/26/07

If you never learn from a mistake, then you never made a mistake to begin with. If I done something wrong or said something wrong, I want to know from God. That way I can correct the wrong I've done. And make sure I don't do it again.
---Rebecca_D on 6/26/07

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To teach us.
---sue on 6/26/07

#1 1 Cor. 11:31,32 - For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

As long as we live in this body of humiliation, we will be fighting sin in the flesh. That is why the Word tells us to judge ourselves. Take a look at yourself and see if you have allowed the old man to rise up.
---Gary54 on 6/25/07

#2 If you did, judge it right then and there, give it to Jesus and let Him take care of it for you. If you don't judge your own sin in the flesh, then Jesus will judge it for you, that is being chastened of the Lord or disciplined of the Lord. He does it for our own good and our spiritual growth. We are never chastened or disciplined because God is mad at us, He does it to teach us something. It is really a blessing instead of a hurtful thing.
---Gary54 on 6/25/07

Steven G

Very good observation of how God works in our lives to humble us. Most would get mad at God and would wonder why this is happening to them, but those that are broken and crushed to powder, will look back and see the working of God in there life and do as you did and thank God for there situation. God bless brother.
---Billy on 6/24/07

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Just as we so love our children & forgive their mistakes, God loves & forgives us. We would be poor stewards (our children are on loan from God), if there was no redirection for wrong doing. Sometimes a "no" & loving instruction on what is correct works. Sometimes it takes more to get their attention. God does what it takes to assure we don't develop a habit that becomes sin unto death. Chasten & rebuke doesn't have to be pain and suffering... we name that by our stubbornness...
---mikefl on 6/24/07

So that we will not continue to make the same mistakes and willfully sin. At some point, when one continues to willfully sin, God may allow him to fall into the snare of the world.Our Father does not want to see His children suffer eternity in Hell and will do what ever it takes to prevent it so he corrects us. He does it out of love to stop our disobedience. Continuing to sin willfully can eventuate with the person completely turning away from God as sin grows.
---jody on 6/24/07

Just like a child that gets into trouble and needs discipline. That's how God deals with us. He does forgive our sins but that does not mean we can do anything we want to do and get away with it.If there were no consequences for the things that we do, we would be wild and out of control and get into more and more trouble and wind up self-destructing. God is so wise and so loving. He knows what's best for us.
---Robyn on 6/24/07

Gilbert and Sullivan wrote a memorable song entitled "Let the punishment fit the crime." Well, to give you an example (one of many) of how God chastises His own. In a nutshell, I had a very successful company in Los Angeles. I let money rule my life, personally making $100,000 per year. It came to a screeching halt in one day where I lost everything. I becomae homeless (literally) for one year...
---Steveng on 6/24/07

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... All doors of getting a job were closed to me. The only income I received was tutoring English to two students and receiving only enough money for one good meal a day. The first month, I was terrified, the second month I became humbled, the rest I was thanking God for my situation. Exactly one year later, a boss from a previous company I worked for called me from out of the blue asking me to work for him.

He chastises us like any good father to his children to keep us from straying.
---Steveng on 6/24/07

The reason why we are disciplined is because God chastises those whom He loves. Consider yourself loved if you are being chastised.
---Alma on 6/24/07


Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, [12] Teaching [Greek paideuo, From G3816; to train up a child, that is, educate, or (by implication) discipline (by punishment): - chasten (-ise), instruct, learn, teach] us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
---Billy on 6/23/07

Chastisement is for keeping you form disobeying the Lord again. If there were no consequences, you would be more inclined to disobey. Chastisement strikes the fear of the Lord in our hearts. Sin is as serious for Christians as it is for non-believers. God said he is no respector of persons. Since we know the truth God expects alot from us. Obedience is one of those things he expects.
---Matthew on 6/23/07

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I believe that since God is the perfect Father he knows what is best for us and that may mean at times we need to be disciplined so we will learn our lesson.
---maryj9396 on 6/23/07

greetings.To the poster.How are you disciplined?
---earl on 6/23/07

God is the Father, we are His children. Think of an idail Father to child relationship. Yes the father forgives the child's wrongdoing, but still must discipline (punish) bad behavior, to help them to learn that it is not acceptable behavior. God is the same.
---Leslie on 6/23/07

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