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Do you think wearing immodest clothing a sin?

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Francis, what is your interpretation of "shamefacedness"?
---Mary on 6/20/12

Plain, without face paint, or what we would call " make up."

2 Kings 9:30 And when Jehu was come to Jezreel, Jezebel heard [of it], and she painted her face

Jeremiah 4:30 though thou rentest thy face with painting, in vain shalt thou make thyself fair, [thy] lovers will despise thee, they will seek thy life.


Ezekiel 23:40

Are these scriptures favourable with make up?
---francis on 6/20/12


Francis, what is your interpretation of "shamefacedness"? Should women be ashamed just because we're women? I don't think so but I don't understand what that means--thanks.
---Mary on 6/20/12


I also like these verses which are consistant with Paul and Pater's idea of modesty:

Exodus 33:4 And when the people heard these evil tidings, they mourned: and no man did put on him his ornaments. For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a stiffnecked people: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee.

Isaiah 3:18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet,
The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers, The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,
The rings, and nose jewels,
The changeable suits of apparel,
---francis on 6/18/12


Both Paul and Peter are saying the inner person and good works are the main issues rather than how one dresses.
---Rod4Him on 6/18/12

Or are they saying that women must dress in modest appareal which means:1 Timothy 2:9 shamefacedness and sobriety, not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array?

PETER AND PAUL WERE BOTH REFERENCING THIS DOCTRINE
enesis 35:2 Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that [were] with him, Put away the strange gods that [are] among you, and be clean, and change your garments:.. And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears, and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem.
---francis on 6/18/12


"That is a bit simplistic of an answer. Again, who decides? Sharia law?
Me thinks you may have too vivid of an imagination. So it is really the other person's fault some can't control their own minds."
---Rod4Him on 6/18/12

No, it is a sin to cause someone else to sin, or to tempt someone to sin, or have you not heard? I made it clear that everyone ought to know what is modest dress and what is not. Obviously that is something that everyone will be able to determine for themselves. Why do you need a law or a person to dictate to you what is modest? Please don't play that game and act like people don't know when they are wearing immodest clothes. If you knowlingly wear revealing clothes, it is a sin.
---Jed on 6/18/12




Both Paul and Peter are saying the inner person and good works are the main issues rather than how one dresses.
---Rod4Him on 6/18/12


I have seen how a woman can dress totally, but still be seductive by how her ankle shows. But a pure woman may not cover up so much, yet her beauty and modesty of Jesus shows.

And there is someone who makes quite a show of herself, as though it is Christian not to be ashamed of her body, like Eve had not reason to be ashamed of being naked. But she has been attracting not-exactlies and wondering why she can't get married to a real man > the bait you use can be what chooses the fish you catch.
---willie_c: on 6/18/12


---Rod4Him on 6/18/12

I like your quetsion

Notice that length of slothing ws not meanioned here:
1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety, not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array,

1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives,..Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel

But it is mentioned here:
Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man,
Exodus 20:26 Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon.
---francis on 6/18/12


The blog question, do you think wearing immodest clothing [is] a sin?

One, what is modest? and who decides?

Two, is being immodest sin, or is it just not appropriate.

My concern is two-fold. People judging and not accepting people who may visit a church, and second who decides exactly what the line of modesty is. Do the elders go around measuring skirts, necklines, and sleeve lengths? How much wearing gold is too much? How many braids are too many?
---Rod4Him on 6/18/12


1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety, not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array,

1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives,..Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel,

According to these passages, modest clothing appears to be dressing with shamefacedness and sobriety,and not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array.

Do you think Peter and Paul consulted with each other before writing the same thing?
---francis on 6/18/12




//If you are still living with your parents..//

I wish they were still alive.

That is a bit simplistic of an answer. Again, who decides? Sharia law?

Me thinks you may have too vivid of an imagination. So it is really the other person's fault some can't control their own minds.
---Rod4Him on 6/18/12


Who gets to decide what is modest?
---Rod4Him on 6/18/12
1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety, not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array,
---francis on 6/18/12


Who gets to decide what is modest?
---Rod4Him on 6/18/12

If you are still living with your parents, they do. If you are an adult you ought to know what is modest. It's not rocket science. You know when you are exposing areas that may arouse the imagination. People can make excuses all they want, they know when they are being immodest. I have seen it before where a girl will be dressed immodest and acting like nothing about it. Then when she notices a fat perv looking dude checking her out, all the sudden she's trying to pull her blouse up and her skirt down to get covered up. Obviously she knew what she was wearing was revealing but she didn't seem to care until she realized she was attracting the wrong person.
---Jed on 6/18/12


Who gets to decide what is modest?
---Rod4Him on 6/18/12


"Do you think wearing immodest clothing a sin?"

Of course it is. I can't imagine why anyone would ever have to ask that question.
---Jed on 6/17/12


wearing clothing that you down right know is revealing your undergarments is immodest.

The comment about wearing clothing not to show your personal struggle with an illness is not exactly the same a being an example of decent clothing.

As long as one is dressed not to provoke ignore dress codes,not to willfully cause alarm to God first, your brother sister or the let ungodly to feel at home,this is about, what I still to this day regard as respectful clothing, otherwise you get the antagonistic response I've been unblessed to here on this thread.

Let this... "mind be in you the same that is in Jesus Christ"
---Carla on 6/17/12


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Yes it is absolutley. It is a sin to cause someone else to sin.
---Jed on 5/14/12


Strong Axe, I am aware of that, but it was a good reminder. All my son's in-laws are Spanish speakers.
---Catholicus on 5/14/12


\\I let the beauty of the holy Sprit shine through my being.
---Eloy on 5/13/12\\

Since when?

This certainly does not happen in what youm post here.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/14/12


Catholicus:

"vosotros" has disappeared from dialects of Spanish spoken in North American, but it still used in Spain.
---StrongAxe on 5/14/12


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The only Spanish speakers I ever hear using the word "vosotros" are a few evangelical Protestant preachers on television.
---Catholicus on 5/13/12


To the person using shira4368's handle: I am not an exhibitionist to behave in such a manner. I wear clothing, I am modest, and I let the beauty of the holy Sprit shine through my being.
---Eloy on 5/13/12


Cluny:

English is constantly evolving. In the last 500 years, the second person singular thou/thee/thy/thine was lost and replaced by the now-ambiguous plural you/you/your/yours. In the South, this ambiguity was resolved by adding a new plural y'all. Even THAT suffered the same fate, so now one hears "y'all" as singular, and "all y'all" as plural. (North American Spanish is the opposite, with the plural (vosotros) disappearing).

In recent decades, political correctness has added a gender-neutral third person singular they/them/their/theirs. This has now become acceptable American English usage, as it is mentioned in dictionaries, and not as slang.
---StrongAxe on 5/13/12


"someone using my name has posted something to eloy about buying an airline ticket to see him nude. Believe me that post is not from me." shira4368
It is sad to be blatantly misrepresented in this way on a public sight.
Not only was the name usurped, but number also.
---joseph on 5/13/12


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Shira the post with the thing about the ticket doesn't line up with who you are or what you are all about,I know thats not the kind of thing you would say to anyone. You are a good Christian woman who would not do anything to offend our Father God. To the one who did it,don't you realize using another persons name is the same as telling a lie. God marks down every wrong you do in this life and you will have to answer for them.
---Darlene_1 on 5/13/12


shira4368:

I didn't really pay much attention to your previous message, but now that I have looked at it closely, what you said makes sense.

After examining many of your posts, as far as I can tell, you almost never make grammar, spelling, and punctuation errors, and avoid colloquialisms like "LOL". That post, however, was full of all of those.

Either someone else was pretending to be you (and doing a poor job), or you were pretending to be somebody else pretending to be you (not likely).

Pretending to be somebody else is deceit, and also identity theft. I doubt ANYONE would like that done to them, so whoever did this is either not a Christian, or needs a severe refresher in the Golden Rule.
---StrongAxe on 5/12/12


\\if a fully clothed person walked among totally sky clad nudists at a nudist colony, and they were the only one wearing clothing.\\

Eloy, how can one person be "they"?

Or are the nudists the only ones wearing clothing?

As others as well as I have pointed out, youm don't know standard English usage.

In any case, were I to appear nude in public, I'd simply be arrested for littering.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/12/12


someone using my name has posted something to eloy about buying an airline ticket to see him nude. Believe me that post is not from me. The language used in the post is not something I would even say. Elder you should know I didn't post that. yes, I have a vivid imagination but not that vivid. elder knows I didn't post that.
---shira4368 on 5/12/12


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Shirl you would probably go blind if I was sentenced to do that..... You'd poke pencils in your eyes. Yucky, po du du......
---Elder on 5/11/12


wow, I am glad I don't have to worry about that. LOL. I think eloy loves to see nude women. they were certainly get some looks but I am afraid the wrong kind of looks. most would say "YUK". eloy why don't you parade around nude so we can have a good laugh. I would buy an airline ticket to see that one. LOL.
---shira4368 on 5/11/12


"I think they should be legally bound to walk publicly nude in heavy populated areas for a day as a punishment to shame them for abusing God's instruction to be modest to one another."
Eloy
Would you be there watching to be sure they were properly punished? Your responce made my dog laugh so hard that he puked. We now call him Eloy jr.
---Elder on 5/10/12


Funny, but "immodest" means different to me now than it did before my mastectomy. I can't wear a lot of the clothes I could before without people accidentally seeing my special bra, or worse yet, my caved-in real chest. It's gotten tricky to shop for sure!
---Mary on 5/10/12


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Strongax, not likely. It would probably be the same kind of awkward feeling experienced if a fully clothed person walked among totally sky clad nudists at a nudist colony, and they were the only one wearing clothing.
---Eloy on 5/9/12


Eloy:

If someone walks shamelessly around scantily clad in order to try to arouse passions in others, what makes you think forcing them to walk around nude would shame them? They might actually enjoy it!

Also, neither the U.S. nor any other country (except perhaps the Vatican) is a Christian theocracy, making laws based solely on "God's instruction".

If this WERE a theocracy, we should all be very afraid, because while we may all trust God's laws, most would have less trust in finite and flawed men who would decide just HOW those laws would be interpreted.

Would you want the police to force you to go to church every Sunday, and to also choose which choose you had to attend, whether you liked that one or not?
---StrongAxe on 5/8/12


the issue is in many countries the world aka our society has told women they must advertise their physical attributes,tight fitting clothes,deep plunging tops,are normal,shorts that barely cover their behind,oh yes it turns a mans head,but leaves nothing to imagine.
---tom2 on 5/8/12


YES, immodest dressing is a sin. Through immodest dressing, the evil one has seduced a lot of formerly innocent people into the sin of immorality.
---Adetunji on 5/8/12


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\\Yes, if a person dresses indecent, exposing much flesh, I think they should be legally bound to walk publicly nude in heavy populated areas for a day as a punishment to shame them for abusing God's instruction to be modest to one another\\

So youm can get to ogle that person?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/8/12


It doesn't take immodest dress to get unwanted attention from men. If a woman is well built and dressed in regular clothes she still gets attention from men. Add to that a pretty face and they often get unwanted attention until it is old. There are just some attributes a woman would have to wear a tent to cover up. Thank God they don't in America. In this era of Stun Guns and Pistol Packing Mamas a man would do well to think twice about bothering a woman with unwanted attentions. Christian women need to conduct themselves always,no matter what they wear,in a modest manner. If a woman conducts herself properly men may like what they see but they know better than to try to touch.
---Darlene1 on 5/8/12


Yes, if a person dresses indecent, exposing much flesh, I think they should be legally bound to walk publicly nude in heavy populated areas for a day as a punishment to shame them for abusing God's instruction to be modest to one another.
---Eloy on 5/8/12


Cluny I think most people know what is modest or not. In Malaysia local Muslim women dressed modestly and attractively. In contrast Middle East Muslim women there were totally covered, and sat or stood silently until ordered to move by a man.

BTW full body covering is not commanded by the Koran but is a tribal cultural thing.

I believe we in the west know what modest clothing is, therefore if we dress provatively we can expect to be lookad at. Of course dress standards change and provocative dress changes with it. But We know when we are pushing the envelope. Recently I saw a man dressed as a 1950's matron including fox fur stole and pill-box hat. People stared, and for good reason. I believe he knew what he was doing.
---Warwick on 5/8/12


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\\If we do not believe behaviour can be provocative then I suppose any clothing or lack thereof is ok. But we all know behaviour or clothing is provocative.\\

That's what mahometans say.

We all know that male mahometans are so lacking in self-control that they require women to be covered except for the face--and sometimes even then.

One of their own leaders compared a woman in western attire to be "uncovered meat". How complimentary!

Christ is risen1
---Cluny on 5/7/12


So then... define "modest" clothing? Is this definition based on our societal beliefs? How does this beleif reflect on those cultures who don't dress as we do? (Thanks, Cluny)
---NurseRobert on 5/7/12


If we do not believe behaviour can be provocative then I suppose any clothing or lack thereof is ok. But we all know behaviour or clothing is provocative. Therefore if a woman dresses in a way which the society where she she lives considers provative then she needs to be prepared for the results of her provocation. I have seen skimpily dressed women object to a man's stares which her purposeful lack of clothing has caused. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I heard one man reply- I will give you two guesses. I believe she had no reason to behave that way and admired the man's cool answer in relation to her hypocrisy.
---Warwick on 5/6/12


Getting back to my hypothetical Polynesian girl in the grass skirt, y ou can tell NOTHING about her morals from how she's dressed.

Clothes are not in themselves moral or immoral. Only PEOPLE are.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/6/12


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\\Cluny it don't take a rocket scientist to know what is moral and what is immoral. Just some good ol common sense.
---Shira4368 on 5/5/12\\

A Polynesian girl wearing nothing but a grass skirt might be perfectly modestly dressed for her culture.

Modest dress will not draw attention to itself, yet this is EXACTLY what mahometan women do going to the grocery store in hijabs and even niqqabs.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/5/12


Cluny it don't take a rocket scientist to know what is moral and what is immoral. Just some good ol common sense.
---Shira4368 on 5/5/12


What YOU consider immodest clothing your friend might consider appropriate.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/5/12


No I don't because if a woman wants to wear immodest clothing that is her business not yours.
be careful what you say to people or they might take it the wrong way
---barbara_Godding on 5/5/12


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It is a truth that Desire is greater in the things you dont see, but lustful in the things you do see, as it triggers the imagination instanteously which is why some women believe "If you have it Flaunt it"Good women with integrity hide what is valuable to them, as they believe this is off limits and reserved .It is a womens thing But some men are destined to oogle.
---MIC on 12/26/08


Ofcourse. Unbelievers don't care. They do not recognize sin.
---catherine on 12/23/08


Yes, wearing immodest clothing is quite a big sin, and shows that a woman/man is unconcerned about it leading to even worse sins. Women/men who wish to exemplify godliness would not dress in such a manner.
---Anne on 12/23/08


In the book of Exodus 20: 26, God instructed the children of Israel not to make steps to go to HIS altar, so that the nakedness of men who were priests would not be seen by others. Indecent dressing/nakedness/open sexual acts of love induces sinful desires in the minds of some persons. This can eventually lead them to sin with other persons. Things that leads others to sin is sin also.
---Adetunji on 12/23/08


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Yes,I believe it is a form of sin.Perhaps a very baby Christian who hasn't read much of the Bible might do so but anyone who has attended church for a period of time should know a Christian woman should dress modestly.
---shirley on 12/23/08


My wife wears very decent clothes and speaks and acts in a very decent way with everyone.

Many of my friends observed her and told me what a decent and dignified wife I have.

So, decency, will gain a woman respect.
---Paul2 on 12/23/08


NO I don't think so if a woman wants to waer immodest clothes that is her choice not yours.
---Barbara_Godding on 12/22/08


So if I commit adultery, that is my choice, and therefore no sin?
---alan_of_Uk on 12/23/08


Amen, Tikatia (on 7/15/07)

There are two points that a christian woman should always consider:

First, God commands that "women adorn themselves in MODEST apparel..." so if one is really a christian woman, then she should obey this command.

Secondly, a christian woman has lovefor her fellowmen, so she would not want her "brothers" to SIN. As Tikatia quoted, "whosoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has already committed adultery". So if one is a christian woman, she would not let herself be the cause for a man to SIN.
---manny on 12/23/08


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NO I don't think so if a woman wants to waer immodest clothes that is her choice not yours.
---Barbara_Godding on 12/22/08


"Let your light so shine in front of people, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. And whatsoever you all do, do all to the glory of God."
---Eloy on 4/15/08


The scriptures say:
Rom 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Women when you dress in immodest clothing knowingly or unknowingly you encourage man's carnal mind to think sinful thoughts. If a man's mind isn't in the gutter, it is still uncomfortable to be near a woman who is showing off her cleavage, or her mini-skirt, etc.

Also note: 1 Tim 2:9
---trey on 4/15/08


I do think it can be, depending to what degree. The bible says we are to dress modestly, at least for Christian women. I do not, however, buy that the reason is so we can keep men from sinning! I am no more responsible for someone else's sin then they are for mine. No man will be able to stand before God and use the way a woman dressed as an excuse for their lust/perversion.
---hadaa7675 on 4/13/08


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I'm not sure its a sin. But as a young man I can say the way some women dress make thoughts and feelings harder to suppress. I'm hoping that marriage will help, but I have found the right girl who loves Jesus as I do.
---Matthew on 7/27/07


I'm not sure its a sin. But as a young man I can say the way some women dress make thoughts and feelings harder to suppress. I'm hoping that marriage will help, but I have found the right girl who loves Jesus as I do.
---Matthew on 7/27/07


Beauty at 50 can be fleeting. It is in the eye of the beholder, beholding, talking up your own beauty, me thinks you're looking for a man.
---mark on 7/17/07


Hi Donna....
---Jacyln on 7/17/07


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I agree with Robyn on this one. There is a way for a Christian on fire woman of God to dress modestly and still appear VERY classy and if needed to her husband VERY sexy without showing off anything that might lead to our brothers stumbling. I dress modestly always, yet attractively. The Lord would have me dress the way He feels about me--Beautiful, yet not so as to make my brothers stumble. I am very conscious of this.
---mistysppl on 7/17/07


Women who claim to be Christian and dress "sexy" ie: showing cleavage as so many on TBN do such as Paula White, Yolanda Adams, Juanita Bynum,etc are basically telling people, "Look at me, not at Christ."
---Sharon on 7/16/07


I think immodest clothing were originally designed by an angel of satan (clothing industry) to attract(men and women) for all of the wrong reasons. Women in particular because we are vulnerable to the whims of fashion. Wanting to look good,sexy etc...Christians women are not exempt from this type behavior. But as Christian women we cannot follow the fashions of this evil world . We are in the world but not of this world. Leave the immodest clothing to the unsaved.
---Robyn on 7/16/07


Odd, but I was thinking about a young woman I worked with. She was a frump by day, and a Las Vegas showgirl by night. She wore basic wool skirts, sweaters, jackets, flats.
When quiting time came, she changed into micro minis, loud, outrageous makeup, spike heels and a ratted up hairdo. I found out later that her split personalities were converging, causing big problems. The difference was striking, night and day.
---Jenny on 7/16/07


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It will cause big problems in the workplace.
You will not be taken seriously, especially if your boss is a woman.
If the boss is a man, you might move right on up the ladder, but fall off the corporate ladder if the boss leaves and you don't have the brains or skills to backup the clothes.
Immodest clothes do not go along with the image that most Christian women portray. But for the Paula fans, anything goes. Spikes, skin, whatever.
---Jenny on 7/16/07


Yes, for both sexes.
Frank3443
---Frank on 7/16/07


Wearing immodest clothing is not a sin but it can cause others to sin, stimulating lust to the onlookers.Moreover, our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, so why should we dressed in such a manner?
---Christy on 7/16/07


I was asked to do a teaching about this to the young women in our church today. I think that it can be a sin, b/c we are causing someone to stumble. Jesus said that if you look upon a woman to lust after her, you have already committed adultery with her. I don't want to be the "other" woman.
---Tikatia on 7/15/07


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How we dress says a lot about us. The majority of the time our clothing make our first impressions. I normally dress casually and don't care for High fashion. Because I'm laid back and could care-less about the latest styles. I would say dress in way that makes you feel comfortable and that honors Christ. ( I like the Golden Girls, Styles yes the ones on TV. Rose, Dorthy, Sophia, and Blanch. They all dress a little different but their hair is the same curlly.)
---Marcia on 7/11/07


I've always had trouble understanding why a Christian would dress immodest. How can we represent Jesus if we dress skimpy?
---Susie on 7/11/07


If they are immodest, yes.
But scanty clothes may not be immodest depending on the context
For example, a swimsuit in the city centre would be immodest, wherea even a bikini on a sunny hot beach would not be immodest, depending on "how" the wearer behaves.
---alan_of_UK on 7/11/07


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