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Sabbath Keepers Moses Law

Acts 15:5 says," But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses." Question, are those keeping seven-day Sabbath, keeping Moses'law?

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Lee: "You will not find any support for Sabbath observance in the teachings of the early church."

They didn't mention it because it was a matter of course--its like mentioning not using god's name in vain or not worshipping false gods. Two 5th century historians noted that at that time nmost Christians kept the seventh-day Sabbath.
---djconklin on 10/30/07


3)David (Psalm 95) still spoke of a promise of rest long after Joshua had led the second generation of Israel to rest in the promised land(verses 6-8).The Sabbath retains its OC meanings identifying God's specially sanctified people ("the people of God") and pointing them back to God as Creator. Added to that is the NC meaning of the rest through Christ, fulfilled in type by the rest given to Israel during Joshua's time (Heb4:8).
---CiNdY92714 on 10/30/07


4) In Hebrews cleverly weaves together 3 themes of rest: the rest from enemies promised to Israel, the weekly Sabbath and the spiritual rest through Christ. The conclusion is that Sabbath-keeping is still necessary for the people of God, the NT Church. We MUST ALL LABOR to ENTER the spiritual rest and continue to keep the weekly Sabbath because of what it portrays in God's great MASTER PLAN, (4:10) affirms. The Sabbath IS A spiritual SIGN of the PHYSICAL rest will have in Jesus on his SECOND coming.
---cInDy92714 on 10/30/07


5)This spiritual rest begins now in this life and reaches its consummation in the resurrection to eternal life at the return of Christ (Rev 20:6). His return also signals the beginning of the millennial rest prophesied in the OT.

For these "firstfruits" (Jas. 1:18) of Gods Master Plan, the Sabbath foreshadows the completion of Gods spiritual creation in them. BORN into the Kingdom or Family of God to be rulers and teachers of
His Word in tomorrows world (Rev. 5:10).
---cInDy92714 on 10/30/07


2)Lee

In Heb. 3:1-6 The faithfulness of Moses and Christ is spoken of and in verse 7, Psalm 95 is quoted to document the FAILURE of the first generation of Israel as a lesson to God's people today(19).

HEB4 begins with an admonition to FAITH AND OBIDIENCE as a prerequisite to the rest that is still available to God's people. NO ONE HAS YET ENTERED THE REST, not because God didn't have it ready, in fact, it was finished from the foundation of the world (verse 3-4).
---CINDY9274 on 10/30/07




1)lEE..

Jesus Christ makes a powerful statement about rest recorded in Matt11:28: "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."

The deeper meaning of His promise is RELEASE from the BONDAGE OF SIN (Jn 8:32-36, Rom 8:2, Heb 2:14-16). Yet we are STILL NOT COMPLETELY FREE FROM SIN(1 Jn 1:8, Rom 7,14-25). So the story of REST MUST CONTINUE..UNTIL Jesus second comming.
---CiNdY92714 on 10/30/07


Lee: "You will not find any support for Sabbath observance in the teachings of the early church."

We can look to history and see that as late as the 5th century most Christians were still keeping the Sabbath. To re-phrase you sentence more accurately: You will not find any support for Sunday observance in the teachings of the early church.
---djconklin on 10/30/07


Lee: "You state that it is there & quote Acts 15:21, 17:2, & 18:3-4 where it only mentions the Sabbath - exceeding poor exegetics."

She showed that they practiced the Sabbath in the NT church. This shows excellant reading skills.
---djconklin on 10/30/07


You will not find any support for the change of Sabbath to Sunday observance in the teachings of the early church. Any such abrogation of Jesus' handwritten Law would have caused a great clamor, but none is observed.
---jerry6593 on 10/30/07


Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

yes indeed, the OT foretold of Christ as nearly everything including the Sabbath prefigured His ministry.

And that is why we read in Hebrews 4 that everyone who believes in Christ has entered into that 7th day rest of God at creation.
---lee on 10/29/07




LEE: "You will not find any support for Sabbath observance in the teachings of the early church."

again wrong LEE!

READ ACTS17:1-2,The Jews and Pharisees which Paul was since CHILDHOOD have ALWAYS kept Saturday as the Sabbath. Acts 26:4-5
---CiNdY92714 on 10/29/07


Sabbath keeping AFTER the cross and undoubtedly applies to both Jews and Gentiles if wondering. Acts 13:42-44, Acts 18:4. Luke 4:16 unless Jesus is into making meaningless and nonsensical statements, He also clarified beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Sabbath would definitely NOT END at the cross by His reference to the FUTURE destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, when he said, And pray that your flight may not be in winter or THE SABBATH Matt 24:20.
---cInDy92714 on 10/29/07


Gina - *If the 4th commandment were applicable to His Church, we would see something written about it in the Epistles & in the writings of the church!*

You state that it is there & quote Acts 15:21, 17:2, & 18:3-4 where it only mentions the Sabbath - exceeding poor exegetics.

But totally ignore John 20:19, Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2 where it states they met on the 1st day of the week.

You will not find any support for Sabbath observance in the teachings of the early church.
---lee on 10/29/07


Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

So if you don't believe the writings of Moses, what does that say about your Christianity?
---jerry6593 on 10/29/07


AMPLIFIED BIBLE

Acts 17:2

And Paul entered, as he usually did, and for three Sabbaths he reasoned and argued with them from the Scriptures

---Gina7 on 10/27/07


AMPLIFIED BIBLE

Acts 18:3,4

3And because he was of the same occupation, he stayed with them, and they worked [together], for they were tentmakers by trade.
4But he discoursed and argued in the synagogue every Sabbath and won over [both] Jews and Greeks.

*** Note: Paul worked 6 days a week as a tentmaker, but on Sabbath? No work, he went to Synagogue and preached to Gentiles and Jews. And does not the 4th commandment say to work 6 days but not on Sabbath
---Gina7 on 10/27/07


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THE MESSAGE BIBLE

Acts 15:21

This is basic wisdom from Moses, preached and honored for centuries now in city after city as we have met and kept the Sabbath.

As I stated, the proof is there for those with spiritual discernment enough to see it. The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament as being kept.
---Gina7 on 10/27/07


If the Sabbath commandment were applicable to His Church, we certainly would see something written about it in the Epistles & in the writings of the early Christain saints!
---lee on 10/24/07
IT IS THERE, for those who wish to see it. For those who don't, lest they be 'forced' to obey the 4th commandment, it will not be acknowledged, because they do not have the spiritual discernment to see it. "anoint thine eyes with eye-salve, that thou mayest see" Rev 3:18
---Gina7 on 10/27/07


Acts 16:13
And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made,and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.

***
And "ON THE SABBATH". This was the 7th day, not the first. Here is a mentioning of the Sabbath in the New Testament,and what was being done on the Sabbath. If it was not still the Sabbath,why call it the Sabbath and mention what was being done "on the Sabbath". Note they were meeting to have prayer.
---Gina7 on 10/27/07


New Living Translation:

Acts 16:13:

On the Sabbath we went a little way outside the city to a riverbank, where we thought people would be meeting for prayer, and we sat down to speak with some women who had gathered there.
---Gina7 on 10/27/07


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New International Readers Version:

Acts 16:13

On the Sabbath day we went outside the city gate. We walked down to the river. There we expected to find a place of prayer. We sat down and began to speak to the women who had gathered together.
---Gina7 on 10/27/07


Acts 17:2
And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures

Acts 18:4
And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

***

Paul's custom was to preach on Sabbath,and to Jews and Gentiles. Question: what not on 1st day to Gentiles? Hmmmm.. maybe that was because the only holy day was THE Sabbath.
---Gina7 on 10/27/07


Today's New International Version:

Acts 17:2

As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures
---Gina7 on 10/27/07


Lee: I know you've been told this before, but apparently it has slipped your mind (again!). The Ten Commandment law IS the Law of Christ! He wrote them with His own finger. You can ridicule them if you like, but there WILL be consequences.
---jerry6593 on 10/27/07


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Jerry - this may be too steep for you but if one is bound by the law of Christ (1 Cor. 9:21, Gal.6:2), then what real need do we have of the ten commandments particular the Sabbath commandment - a commandment that has virtually nothing to do with the love of neighbor?
---lee on 10/25/07


Andrea: "Geez - Adventists sure want to make adultery ok."

Who is 'Geez"? Isn't that slang for Jesus?

SDA's do not want to make adultery ok. That is a bald-faced lie.
---djconklin on 10/25/07


alan Uk - you may be right and now I won't be able to use it as an expression of pleeeeaaaaasssseeee get over it or hmmmmm

I try not to use any godly words as cuss words but it is a four letter heart that God sees.
be blessed
---Andrea on 10/25/07


Ardrea: You are hopelessly self-conflicted. You claim that you are not bound by the Ten Commandment Law, but then claim that you mustn't commit adultery. Last time I looked, adultery was a part of the 10C. So are you bound by the 10C law or not? Yes or No? Let's face it, the only problem you have with the law is the 4th Commandment - admit it!
---jerry6593 on 10/25/07


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Andrea, maybe the 7th Commandment is brought up so often because it gets your attention. Only wish breaking the 4th were as repulsive to you as breaking any of the 10. You understand breaking the 7th is sin, why isn't breaking the 4th sin also? In your own words, "Jesus does not lead Christians into sin." Mt 6:13, Lk 11:4. He liberated Sabbath from the pretenders-Jn 7:23.
---Geoff on 10/24/07


"Geez" ... What does that mean Andrea?
I beleive it is an abbreviation for "Jesus"
---alan_of_UK on 10/24/07


Geoff - *Lee said "there are basically two according to 1 John 3:23-24." If there are only 2 then adultery is OK, ...,. David's murder of Uriah would also be OK because he "loved" Bathsheba.*

You are not thinking at all! If you love your neighbor will you violate any moral law?

An adulterous affair does not express love towards one neighbor. Moral law as David found out, does have consequence unlike not keeping the Sabbath - a ceremonial law.
---lee on 10/24/07


Geez - Adventists sure want to make adultery ok. Every time we mention not following the law you think about adultery.

we don't commit adultery bc Jesus does not lead christians into sin. Adultery is not freedom it is bondage. Like the law and or false religions
---Andrea on 10/24/07


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Lee said "there are basically two according to 1 John 3:23-24." If there are only 2 then adultery is OK, especially if, as Jerry chides you, you love the co-adulterer. David's murder of Uriah would also be OK because he "loved" Bathsheba.
---Geoff on 10/24/07


Would someone please tell me what is meant by the term"Faith of Jesus" just what does the Faith of Jesus consist of? What makes up the Faith of Jesus?
---Mima on 10/24/07


TS - you observe Commandments written on stone...

2Cr 3:3 [Forasmuch as ye are] manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
---Andrea on 10/24/07


TS - *Here is the patience of the SAINTS, they that KEEP the COMMANDMENTS of GOD, and the Faith of Jesus*

And what are the commandments of God the Christian is to observe?

There are basically two according to 1 John 3:23-24 -

1) Believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ,

2) Love one another.

If the Sabbath commandment were applicable to His Church, we certainly would see something written about it in the Epistles & in the writings of the early Christain saints!
---lee on 10/24/07


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Well said, TS.

Psalm 40:8
I delight to do Thy will, O my God: yea, Thy Law is within my heart.

When Jesus is in your heart, it's easy. Jn 14:30, Ro 7:22, 8:1-4, Heb 4:15.
---Geoff on 10/24/07


Steveng: No other religion is more difficult for the carnal minded world to obey. Yet, when converted by the knowledge of a Loving Savior and the in dwelling HS we find His 10 Commandments a joy to obey and they are not grievious. Those still in the World will always resist keeping them

"Here is the patience of the SAINTS, here are they that KEEP the COMMANDMENTS of GOD, and the Faith of Jesus"

God Gave Eternal Commandments including the 4th Written in Stone.
---TS on 10/24/07


Mary and Joseph obeyed the OT laws. Jesus was raised in the OT laws. He fulfilled the OT laws by obeying them to the letter. The Old Covenant was to the Jews only, the New Covenant was to the Christians (Jews and Gentiles) with the same laws except now Jesus made it more difficult - by even thinking about sin. What other religion in the world can be so difficult for mankind to obey?
---Steveng on 10/23/07


Jack: What you say is not supported by Scripture.

Can you show me where Jesus says the Sabbath is transferred now to Sunday form Scripture?

No, you cant.
---TS on 10/23/07


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Kella3336: "I do not set Saturday aside a day of rest."

This means you don't work for a living? Christians absolutely need a day to be with God.

"I do not believe that my relationship with God is going to suffer because I do not observe the Sabbath."

You believe your relationship isn't going to suffer if you don't observe the other commandments.

"That is up to the individual."

You believe it's up to individual interpretation of the Bible.
---Steveng on 10/22/07


"Adventism drawing its essential doctrines from the OT followed in the Mosiac tradition advocating Levitical food laws, Sababth keeping and other Mosaic teachings while mainline Christian followed the teaching of Paul's epistles."

The Sabbath was made by God on the 7th day of Creation. Moses wasn't even present. The distinction between clean and unclean animals was known at the time of the Flood. SDA's go by the teachings of the whole Bible and the truth vs. the traditions of man.
---djconklin on 10/22/07


THE SEED OF ABRAHAM AS GOD'S ADOPTED SONS WOULD INHERIT THE EARTH.(Rom 4:13-16 Jn 10:16 ) .

Therefore is we are Children of God, through Faith in Jesus Christ, born into ABRAHAM SEED, enheritance of the promise and BLESSING OF THE COMMING kingdom, we are Spiritually Jews with circumcized hearts. The Sabbath is for Man, they are not just for Jewish people who are born a Jew, The Sabbath is a sign for all who CLAIM TO BE CHILDREN of God. The Sabbath is God's day.
---CiNdY92714 on 10/22/07


WE also agree that the Commandments of God is written in our hearts not in stones. We also know we are Sanctified by the Holy Spirit. Sanctified" means to set apart for holy use.

The Sabbath was made for man. Mark 2:27.

The other Nine are not Just for the Jews (Deut 10:1-5. Does adultery, murder, stealing and lying apply only to Jews?

The seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God.
Exodus 20:10. God calls it, my holy day Isaiah 58:13.
---CiNdY92714 on 10/22/07


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The Sabbath is for the Stranger too. It says the stranger is to rest on the Sabbath. Ex 20:10. Strangers are Gentiles. Isa 56:6.
Isaiah said Gentiles should keep the Sabbath.
Also the sons of the stranger, every one that keepeth the Sabbath, for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
All mankind will keep the Sabbath in the New Earth.In the new earth, from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord. ISA.66-22-23
---CiNdY92714 on 10/22/07


Jews and Gentiles alike who are believers in Christ Jesus are Abrahams SEED and heirs according to the promise. If you are such a believer, you are one of Gods Chosen People. But if you are not in Christ, you are NOT Abrahams seed, and you DO NOT HAVE the promise and the blessing. You are not among Gods Chosen People by way of Ethnicity, Race or DNA, for Jesus said that flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom. (1Cor.15:50 Gal 3:26-29)


THE BELIEVING JEWS AND GENTILES WOULD BE MADE TO BE ONE FLOCK.
---cInDy92714 on 10/22/07


To---dan how does your statement,"Circumsicion was a sign for Abraham. Sabbth however was for all man. "Agree with this statement from the bible? "It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed."Are men children of Israel? Do you believe in replacement theology?
---Mima on 10/22/07


I do not set Saturday aside for a day of rest. I spend every day with God. I do not believe that my relationship with God is going to suffer because I do not observe the Sabbath. I do not have a problem with those who chose to. That is up to the individual.Those who keep the Sabbath should not be looked down on either. Everyone should be convinced in their own mind. God bless!
---Kella3336 on 10/22/07


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If you break the Sabbath you are in good company.

Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the Sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 5:18
---Andrea on 10/21/07


I'll Keep the Christian Law that Jesus gave us on Sinai. The same Christian Law He has written upon my heart to Keep.
---SeventhSeal on 10/18/07
Amen to that. SDA's follow Jesus Christ and His Christian Law. "He that saith I know him and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him" 1 John 2:4
---Gina7 on 10/20/07


Acts 15:5 relates the conflict found in the early church between Jewish & Gentile converts.


Adventism drawing its essential doctrines from the OT followed in the Mosiac tradition advocating Levitical food laws, Sababth keeping and other Mosaic teachings while mainline Christian followed the teaching of Paul's epistles.

The conflict will continue to exit as Adventism has claims to be the chosen remnant of endtimes and all others are of apostate Roman Catholic.
---lee on 10/20/07


There is nothing wrong with keeping the Law of Moses, but it is wrong to look to it as salvation. To say that salvation is going to church on the sabbath is contrary to the Gospel.
We are commanded to not give a respect of Days or any particular race of people, In Christ all are the same. The dispensation of Grace is the day of circumcision, another day
that is not on our calender, the eighth day of the Week the day of the Spirit. It is entered by faith alone.
---exzucuh on 10/20/07


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Moses was NOT born on the sixth day of creation.

The ten commandments are not Moses' Law. They are God's law. God blessed the Sabbath thousands of years before Moses was born. God instilled the ten commandments into the hearts of man until, over time, their hearts grew hard as stone. God then written the ten commandments on stone so people can read it.
---Steveng on 10/19/07


The old covenant is done away with,exceot
the 10 commandments and certain laws concerning the separation of the 2 genders.
Which is a Material covenant.
Christ brought forth the new covenant,
which is a spiriual covenant.
Sunday is the Christian Sabbath.
Under the new covanant.
Others keep it on saturday, under the old
covenant.
---Jack on 10/19/07


Those who worship God every day of the week, but have to work, not rest, on Sunday face everlasting torment.
A doctor or nurse or firefighter who loves God truly and fully will rest on the sabbath (ie, Saturday) and do no work.
By doing so, they will of course also be loving their neighbour, which Jesus said was the "next greatest commandment, and like unto it".
That sounds logical doesn't it? Even if it doesn't, we have to remember that God's logic is not man's logic.
---alan_of_UK on 10/19/07


1)TS - I think we can all agree that Christians do not have to observe civil laws and ceremonial laws that pertained to the worship of Yahweh, that were given exclusively to Israel.

And one of those laws given exclusively to Israel was the weekly Sabbath. We can easily see that, as there is virtually nothing in the New Testament or in the writings of the early church that commands the church to keep Sabbath.

Nor do we see Sabbath observance in any other culture.
---lee on 10/19/07


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2)TS - Furthermore, the Sabbath is definitely not a moral law as Adventist would maintain, since it has none of the characteristics of moral law, does not affect relationship between people as does all moral law, or trouble the conscience if not observed liken to other acts that are considered sinful.

I would beg to have Adventists prove otherwise but they have not been able to in the past year or so.
---lee on 10/19/07


dharma: I agree but Andrea refuses to Keep His Commandments showing that her Love for Him is second to some favored sin.
---TS on 10/19/07


The greatest commandment - love God

just begin to open your heart and love Him and you will follow His commandments

don't care if you want to worship Him on saturday but do it on Mon and Tues WTFSSM too just fall in love with Him.
Ask for His Holy Spirit and He will empower you to live this wonderful life - a journey with God
---Andrea on 10/19/07

I agree
---dharma on 10/19/07


I've read the 10c's don't find either circumcision or worship mentioned. Circumsicion was a sign for Abraham. Sabbth however was for all man. Not about worship. Not about church. Imagine a husband and wife. If they do not take time with just each other (rest) how well does the relationship do. Answer in a spiritual sense is found in Revelation.
---dan on 10/19/07


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2)1Jn 3:17 "But whoever has this world's goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?" In my relation to others, if I am not WILLING to help them, if I don't do for them what they need to have me do,then I don't love them, NO MATTER HOW MUCH I may say that I do.

This is also true in our service to God. 18:"My little children, LET US NOT LOVE IN WORDS or IN TOUNGE, but in DEED(WORKS) and in TRUTH."
---cInDy92714 on 10/19/07


3)Loving God is not just a matter of what we say, BUT WHAT WE DO. It is an everyday way of life.

1 John 5:3 says: "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments..." Do you love God? Your ACTIONS answer the question. No one really loves God unless he is diligently studying God's WILL and OBEYING ITt. Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments" -- John 14:15. And again, "...this is love, that we walk after his commandments" -- 2 John 6.
---CiNdY92714 on 10/19/07


1)What does it mean to love God? Jesus said that loving God was the GREATEST command(Matt. 22:37,38). No doubt most people, who believe in God, will affirm that they love Him. Many people regularly express their love for God in worship services. This is good, but is it enough? Jesus warned about people who honored Him with THEIR LIPS, but their hearts were FAR from Him (Matt. 15.8). They SPOKE OF LOVE, BUT they did not really possess it. SO, WHAT IS LOVE? How do we know whether or not we love God?
---cInDy92714 on 10/19/07


The greatest commandment - love God

just begin to open your heart and love Him and you will follow His commandments

don't care if you want to worship Him on saturday but do it on Mon and Tues WTFSSM too just fall in love with Him.
Ask for His Holy Spirit and He will empower you to live this wonderful life - a journey with God
---Andrea on 10/19/07


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markB = *that verse saying God is Love is telling of an attribute of God, just like God is Holy, God is love. God is equally holy and Love. *

Yes, but what is the chief attribute of God? It is certainly NOT the ten commandments as those certainly do not reflect the dominant attributes of God.

Can you imagine that the Adventists are telling us that observing the Sabbath day is an attribute and like Cindy telling us that the 4th commandment is a moral law and the chief commandment? Baloney!
---lee on 10/19/07


Lee, that verse saying God is Love is telling of an attribute of God, just like God is Holy, God is love. God is equally holy and Love. So its both
---mark_B. on 10/18/07


7thSeal *SDA follow Jesus & the Bible Only.*

The books EGW produced exceed her own height if stacked horizontally.

Compare that to the 2" Bible which contains the divinely-inspired writings of some 50 writers over 1500 yrs.

Is it logical to believe God would give so little divinely inspired info to a billion Christians during 2000 years & so much to just 10 million member SDA church which has existed for only 144 years.

(White Washed by Sydney Cleveland.)
---lee on 10/18/07


The chief attribute of God is love.

1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God, for God is love.

1Jo 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love, and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Not something stupid as God's character is the ten commandments, it goes far beyond that to what He truly is.

In fact, the spirit behind all the law is God's expression of love toward His creation.
---lee on 10/18/07


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Andrea: Even committed willful sinners that do not Keep the Commandments can still be saved while there is yet time. All they need do is repent and Keep His Commandments before thier probation ends.

Pharaoh refused and is lost.
Nebuchadnezzer accepted the chastening and is saved.
---SeventhSeal on 10/18/07


Andrea: "The Sabbath was created for man" not exclusive to the Jew as you desire. God kept the Sabbath in Genesis...did that make Him a Jew? Of course not.

You are mixing Mosaic Ordinance with Christian Law. I'll Keep the Christian Law that Jesus gave us on Sinai. The same Christian Law He has written upon my heart to Keep.
---SeventhSeal on 10/18/07


1)Gods 10 Commandments equals God's Holy CHARACTER

1 Romans 16:26: God is Eternal
Psalms 111:7-8: The law is Eternal

2 Luke 18:19: God is Good
Romans 7:12: The law is Good

3 John 4:24: God is Spiritual
Romans 7:14: The law is Spiritual

4 Deuteronomy 32:4: God is Just
Romans 7:12: The law is Just

5 Psalms 145:17: God is Righteous
Psalms 119:172: The law is Righteous
---cInDy92714 on 10/18/07


2) 10C=GOD'S Character

6 1John 3:3: God is Pure
Psalms 19:8: The law is Pure

7 Matthew 5:48: God is Perfect
Psalms 19:7: The law is Perfect

8 I John 4:8: God is Love
Romans 13:10: The law is Love

9 I John 1:5: God is Light
Proverbs 6:23: The law is Light

10 Psalms 48:1: God is Great
Hosea 8:12: The law is Great
---cInDy92714 on 10/18/07


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3)
11 Deut 32:4: God is Truth
Ps 119:142: The law is Truth

12 Is 5:16: God is Holy
Rom 7:12: The law is Holy


1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and UNCIRCUMCISION is nothing, but the keeping of the 10C of God.

Matt 5:18. Heaven and Earth will pass before Gods 10 Commandments change by even a tittle which is the smallest change you can have to a single Hebrew character.
Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
---CiNdY92714 on 10/18/07


Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law, ye are fallen from grace.
Paul understood what it was to mix Judaism with Christianity. The law and circumcision were identical. You must be circumcised in your heart. How big a thing was it for a Jew to trust God and not be circumcised. HUGE amount of trust involved.
The same for you, to believe you will not be saved by any laws will take a huge leap of faith.
But then faith is what it always takes.
---Andrea on 10/18/07


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