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Lineage Of David For Jesus

What do you think." it says in Luke 2:4 that Joseph went to be registered in the census because "he was of the house and lineage of David". There is silence about the lineage of Mary. It appears that Jesus got His lineage through Joseph and not Mary. Comments? Helen_5378 on 8/2/07

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Jer31:31
Behold the days come,saith the Lord,I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel,with the house of Judah:Not according to the covenant,I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt:which My covenant they brake,although I WAS an HUSBAND them,saith the Lord.
Jer3:8
I saw... ...backsliding Israel committed adultery I had
PUT HER AWAY,AND GIVEN HER A BILL OF DIVORCE,yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not,but went and played the harlot also.
---char on 8/5/09


We should note both lineages are in the Testaments to record the birthright of Jesus as Messiah - they were proof not an after thought from the writer.
If you don't understand their significance - study it. It is one of the most studied parts of the gospel. Both Mary and Joseph were from the House of David.
---Andrea on 9/8/07

Nicely stated Adrea. GOD cannot lie. Prophecy is fulfilled in every direction. There would always someone of Davids line on the throne.
GOD also follows his own laws...as expected. He would not have an illegitimate earthly son either. Why Judah/Ben was not divorced with the other nations of Israel. For so much study, I've yet to find even one that acknowledges GOD was married.
---Trav on 6/30/09


God sent his son into the world to save those that believe he is Gods son, Noah's ark was salvation to those that believed in it and Got in it. You had to be inside to be saved. Phillip asked the eunuch Do you believe Jesus is the Son of God? After the enuch asked to be baptized. Phillip made it clear if he did not believe with all his heart he would not baptize him. You are saved by faith not by proving the linage of Jesus, faith is believing in your heart, like a little child.
Jesus said without such faith you will never see the kingdom of God. God said Jesus is his Son, Israel perished because they would not mix faith with the word, and God hates that.
---exzucuh on 6/27/09


I think that Matthew (1st chapter)gives Jesus lineage thru Joseph...note that Joseph's lineage is thru Soloman in Matthew's Gospel...then Luke (3rd chapter)comes along and never mentions Soloman...why? Because the bloodline split there with David's TWO sons...Soloman and NATHAN...mentioned in the Gospel of Luke...check it out and let me know what you think.
---Ted on 6/26/09


****Or to let us know since Adam and Eve both were without sin in the beginning. "For the Mighty One has done Great things for me,"(Luke 1:49)****

As in 1st Adam all die as in Christ all will be made alive.

All who receive Him that is.
---kathr4453 on 6/27/08




All ::The lineage shown in Matthew regarding Jesus is to show He has the Authority of a King,when handing the Keys to Peter as shown in Matt16:17-19.Also to fulfill the prophecy that a saviour would come out of the line of David as per the Prophecy in the Old Testament.
---Emcee on 6/26/08


There are TWO lineages in scripture ...one in Luke and one in Matthew 1. Joseph's is in Matthew ..Mary's is in Luke. Notice Mary's goes back to Adam and Eve. What foresight God had in knowing a corrupt teaching of Mary being immaculately conceived.

We see, Mary, inherited a sin nature.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/08



Or to let us know since Adam and Eve both were without sin in the beginning. "For the Mighty One has done Great things for me,"(Luke 1:49)
---Ruben on 6/26/08


Matt 2:16 - And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

So, this tells us who was the father of Joseph. He couldn't be both the son of Jacob and Heli.
---Gophylann on 6/26/08


There are TWO lineages in scripture ...one in Luke and one in Matthew 1. Joseph's is in Matthew ..Mary's is in Luke. Notice Mary's goes back to Adam and Eve. What foresight God had in knowing a corrupt teaching of Mary being immaculately conceived.

We see, Mary, inherited a sin nature.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/08


The New Testament makes no mention of whom Mary's father is, but the Gospel of James(150 A.D) does and it's not Heli. The Gospel of James says Mary's parents are Anne and Joachime. This would cast serious doubts on trying to connect Luke's lineage to Mary.
---mike on 6/25/08




GOD says the husband is the head of the household. So as the head of the household the husbands lineage is the only one tracked.
---MissionSoldier on 4/26/08


John, The two most common ways that a person has two fathers is one: your biological father, and two: your spouse's father becomes your father also in-law. Now since the witness of Matthew states that Jacob "sired" (gk: genniso) Joseph, and the witness by Luke only states Joseph "of" Heli, we can know that Jacob was Joseph's biological father, and that Heli was Joseph's father-in-law.
---Eloy on 9/10/07


Eloy. Okay, I didn't notice that the words "son of" are not in the original. The fact remains is that it still says Jesus, the son of Joseph, which was of Heli. Were does it say that Heli was Marys father? It says here that Joseph was of Heli, not Mary of Heli. I appreciate your answers.
---john on 9/9/07


yoshin:

As a matter of Jewish law, a child born to a betrother woman was considered to be a son of her fiance. So Jesus's lineage through Joseph was necessary to show that he was legally descended from David.

Jesus's lineage through Mary was necessary to show that he was biologically descended from David.

In this way, critics could not say "he may be biologically from David but not by law" or "he may be legally from David but not in the flesh"
---StrongAxe on 9/9/07


In Psalms, God himself calls Jesus God, so if Jesus would be only the Son of God, then how does God call him God? Jesus asked the Ministers, "saying, What think you all of Christ? Whose son is he? They say to him, Of David. He says to them, How then does David in Spirit call him Lord, saying, YHWH said to my Lord, Sit you on my right hand, till I make your enemies your footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?" Matthew 22:42-46.
---Eloy on 9/9/07


Lit.Gk: "Concerning the Son of him, the coming of the heir of David down from flesh (Mary and Joseph's lineage), marked out the Son of God in power down from Spirit of holiness from resurrection from death." Rm.1:3. Jesus created Mary in order to put on flesh through her. He was not born of the seed of Joseph nor any man, but from the Holy Ghost. "for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost." Mat.1:20.
---Eloy on 9/9/07


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.john, "son of" is not in the original Greek scripture but was added to make the reading more fluent. The translators should not have added "son of", else they could have written son-in-law of", they only wanted to make the reading more fluent and smoother when read. Therefore my previous posting is correct, and there is no contradiction in the different genealogies because they are of the two different people: Joseph's and Mary's.
---Eloy on 9/8/07


.john, the Bible is clear to give Mary's genealogy in the witness by Luke. Heli was Mary's biological father and Joseph's father-in-law.
---Eloy on 9/8/07


Eli. Luke3:23 Says Jesus the son of Joseph, the son of Heli. Not Jesus the son of Mary, the daughter of Heli. Unless Mary had a father and a husband both named Joseph, this is Jesus' lineage through his earthly father, Joseph as well as that in Matt 1:16.
Of coarse the question remains as to why the names are so different but the Bible seems clear that there is no lineage of Mary mentioned.
---john on 9/8/07


Christ's prophetic heritage: The genealogy recorded in Matthew's witness is Joseph's lineage (Joseph's father, Jacob- Matthew 1:16), and the genealogy recorded in Luke's witness is Mary's lineage (Mary's father, Heli- Luke 3:23). Both Joseph and Mary are from the same tribe of Judah and both are descendants from King David's line (Matthew 1:2,6+ Luke 3:31-33).
---Eloy on 9/8/07


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We should note both lineages are in the Testaments to record the birthright of Jesus as Messiah - they were proof not an after thought from the writer.
If you don't understand their significance - study it. It is one of the most studied parts of the gospel. Both Mary and Joseph were from the House of David.
---Andrea on 9/8/07


Christs prophetic heritage: The genealogy recorded in Matthews witness is Josephs lineage (Josephs father, Jacob- Matthew 1:16), and the genealogy recorded in Lukes witness is Marys lineage (Marys father, Heli- Luke 3:23). Both Joseph and Mary are from the same tribe of Judah and both are descendants from King Davids line (Matthew 1:2,6+ Luke 3:31-33).
---Eloy on 9/8/07


Check out the blood line of Jesus in the book of Matthew starting in Matthew 1:1. The bloodline ends with Matthew 1:16 Jacob was the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, by whom Jesus was born, who is called the Messiah.
---denna7667 on 9/7/07


If Jesus is of virgin birth, who would even care about the linage of Joseph? I like luke3:23, -or so it was thought- meaning Joseph was not his father? Or, -so it was thought- would blow the churches theory on Luke being Marys linage. Why make up excuses to try an explain discrepancies in the Bible, like -what the author really means is- We do not have to help God get it right.
---yoshin on 8/15/07


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Jesus came from the linage of David. Mary and Joseph was both a tribe of Judah and decendants of David. Lk 1:32, Ro 1:3. The genealogy of Mary is in Luke 3:22-38. It starts with Jesus and ends with Adam.
---Rebecca_D on 8/9/07


Jesus had a linage to King David both through Joseph as well as Mary.

Historically in Jewish culture linage was always tracked through the mother's family line because you could always verify who the mother was but not necessarily the father. The Jews realized that some times events happened and they chose the meteoritical tracking method of linage because at that time it was fool proof.
---notlaw99 on 8/8/07


A Roman command to register for census not a biblical command. It's thought that Mark gives a complete genealogy and Luke gives important figures and kings. Important for the claim of Messiah to be the house of David. Some scholars say Luke is actually the line of Mary. The NIV says its probably the Royal lineage of Joseph. The prophecy in Isaiah about a virgin giving birth was probably really "young girl" we accept the NT version. That was not a requirement for messianic fulfillment.
---Andrea on 8/8/07


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