Is A Divorced Pastor Proper
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Jesus prohibited divorce except for adultery, that included lying about ones virginity. The non adulterer could remarry. The adulterer, and anyone marrying one, is entering a prohibited marriage. A divorce without cause, was no divorce, and so, another marriage was a type of bigamy. The exception is in 1Corinthians 7:15. If the unbeliever departs, the Christian can remarry because the marriage was not 'in the Lord'. Matthew 19:9, 1Corinthians 7:27-28 allow remarriage.
Deuteronomy 22:17-19, 28-29, 24:1-4, Proverbs 2:17 (forsaketh husband), Isaiah 54:4-8, Jeremiah 3:1, Malachi 2:14-16, Matthew 5:31-32, 19:3-12, Mark 10:2-12, Luke 16:18, 1Corinthians 6:15-16, 7:10-17, 27-28. |
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---Glenn on 10/3/09 |
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Some men are married to two wives, one he lives with, and the one he sends a check to every month. Has he now learned how to have a Godly marriage? The disciplining of a presumed Bishop is not a punishment, but recognizes that man is not qualified. This could be due to immaturity, ignorance, sin, apostasy, or not meeting various Biblical standards *1. The applicable verse is 1Timothy 5:19-22, and if the charge is justifiable, Romans 16:17, 18, 1Corinthians 5 come into play. Matthew 18:15-20 concerns offenses committed against you personally.
*1 Acts 20:27-30, 1Timothy 3:1-15, Titus 1:5-16, James 3:1-18, 1Peter 5:1-3. |
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---Glenn on 10/3/09 |
Everyone who has the legalistic approach that 1 Timothy is referring to divorce is wrong. In the original Greek the word (apolusai)divorce is not used. The phrase in the Greek (andra mias gunaikos) "husband of one wife" literally means having only one wife at a time and being totally devoted to her. God plainly says that he will those who add or take away from His Word and the legalistic community is doing exactly that.Quit denying quality men from fulfilling God's call and allow them to pastor. You may be surprised at what you get. |
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---Stuart on 10/2/09 |
In Titus 1:6 Doesnt the bible say that an elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient. 7Since an overseer is entrusted with God's work, he must be blamelessnot overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain.
Also, was his divorce and remarriage scriptural Matthew 5:32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery |
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---Wal_Rev on 10/26/08 |
If the man has a living wife he is not free to marry. |
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---Betty on 10/26/08 |
If the man did not believe in vain...and he is seated in heavenly places...and he has the forgiveness of sins...and he is accepted in the beloved...THEN THERE SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM! Quote me on it! |
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---Scott on 10/25/08 |
There was one KING David and God has the right to choose whom he pleases to pardon and whom he choses to reject. David was a man of GODs heart and part of The linage of Christ and despite David messing up that line could not be contaminated with foreign Blood. What a cop out how many men do I hear use david as an example to pardon their Adultery/Fornication Are all men DAVID, Moses, Soloman, Elijah? |
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---carla5754 on 8/29/07 |
If it was that Pastor's Felt, and that Pastor was in ungodly lust's,adutery or child pron. Then no I don't feel that person should be Pastoring. God can forget and heal a person from a past sin. But if there were weakness's. That Pastor should be careful and have a person over them to help them. They need a over seer sometimes or a high. |
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---Janice on 8/27/07 |
If things are different(changed) and they have truely been delivered and set free I am sure some place there may be some good divoreced Pastors. Richard Roberts is a good Pastor he had another wife in his past before he got in the ministry. That is the thing "before" he got in the Ministry. Not while he was a Pastor. |
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---Janice on 8/27/07 |
There are lots of reasons why divorce happens.When we are in Christ nothing will be unsettled.We are called to love,forgive & live a holy life.Let us pray our ministers will be able to live as Romans 12 says(as we also need to),as written in 1Tim,etc. For if a person is in Christ.. all things will be settled in love & desiress will be to live a holy life pleasing & acceptable before Christ.God bless our ministers.May they live a life that will inspire us to obey the Lord's commands. |
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---Sheila on 8/27/07 |
King David committed adultery and murder? Yet he was 'the apple of God's eye'.
I think we really need to seek God's face in these situations. God punishes. |
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---Andrea on 8/26/07 |
If he committed fornication Absolutely Not neither if a woman/Man titles come under the same. Many do justify their Lives by misleading others by using scripture out of context. '' Being saved means all things are passed away''. Why did Jesus and Moses not Qoute that to validate Divorce for any reason, because this was not and is not so. Marriage is very much (like) a covenant Christ saw the innocent and said accept, ONE EXCCEPTION (for re- marriage)! if im permitted by the word Matthew 19 to say so. |
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---carla5754 on 8/22/07 |
If he committed fornication Absolutely Not neither if a woman/Man titles come under the same. Many do justify their Lives by misleading others by using scripture out of context. '' Being saved means all things are passed away''. Why did Jesus and Moses not Qoute that to validate Divorce for any reason, because this was not and is not so. Marriage is very much (like) a covenant Christ saw the innocent and said accept, ONE EXCCEPTION (for re- marriage)! if im permitted by the word Matthew 19 to say so. |
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---carla5754 on 8/22/07 |
"the husband of one wife"
I always thought this phrase was there because during Biblical times it was not unusual for men to have wives and concubines all at the same time. If a wife commits adultery and divorces her husband, that is not something that should be held agains the husband
Susie
I was rereading the comments and thought this was interesting. If the pastor is divorced (properly) he is unmarried and therefore free to remarry. |
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---Andrea on 8/15/07 |
Robyn, by what authority to you lift the requirements for being a pastor? It is one thing if the man had never married, but to be married and then divorced shows that he does NOT have what it takes to be a pastor, even if his sin had been forgiven. But he should be encouraged to attend as a parishioner at every service. |
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---lorra8574 on 8/11/07 |
The Assemblies of God just this week voted to let people pastor whose spouse either committed adultery or was an unbeliever and abandoned them. In the past, pastors could not be divorced and remarried for any circumstances. Prior to this if a pastor was divorced and remained unmarried they could pastor. If the divorced pastor remarried they had to turn in their credentials. |
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---Karen on 8/12/07 |
Saved before or not, Jesus's blood will never lose it's power. HE sees our hearts and it's desires and intents. We need to go beyond religion and look deeper with the eyes of Jesus...and, with His eyes, there's always room for forgiveness when one truly repents. Isn't He wonderful!!! I love him SO much...and He loves us all too, in spite of all our "in spite of's" *S* |
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---chara on 8/11/07 |
Why not? He is a new creature and has been born again. The divorce happened before He was saved. He cannot do anything about that now. He has to move on and do the work of Christ now. I hope he has gotten his life together and will no not be facing divorce in his future. |
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---Robyn on 8/11/07 |
Rebbeca,
I don't agree with your way of thinking. His sin is forgiven.But sin being forgiven does not mean that as a preacher he should not align himself with scripture and be an example to his flock. |
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---MissionSoldier on 8/10/07 |
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Pick a different verse to support your view of who is in heaven. Matt 3:13 is Jesus stating under what authority he says one must be reborn. Nicodemus refers to Jesus as teacher.v.13 is Jesus showing how he is much more than a teacher. None of the teachers of the old testament has done what he has and will do. Ascending to and descending from heaven and being the Son of Man gives him Heavenly authority to speak of heavenly things. This does not mean that no one that has died has gone to heaven yet. |
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---MissionSoldier on 8/10/07 |
Mellisa,
I agree, before saved = forgiven. The problem I have is that christianity has been high-jacked. Anyone today can claim to be a christian and so many are willing to be accepting. Pastors are held to a greater standard by GOD. Who are we to lessen that standard. |
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---MissionSoldier on 8/10/07 |
MissionSoldier: I am glad you like my way of thinking. Which lines up with the word of God. I have heard of Ghandi, but to say he is in heaven. I would have to say no. Because the bible says that no man has ascended up into heaven but Jesus himself. John 3:13. I go to a non-demonational Family Worship Church. |
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---Rebecca_D on 8/10/07 |
Mission soldier if you weren't such a sexist I might agree with you. But I do question if men who are not in control of their families should have control of a church. Maybe it would be better to use their knowkedge and experience as speakers and not have them as pastors bc Pst are held to a high standard. Sorry I hate to stand bt two opinions. |
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---Andrea on 8/10/07 |
MissionSoldier-Do you think that "husband of one wife" means that a widower can't remarry and pastor a church? I agree with those who mentioned that a mistake made before being born again should not disqualify someone from serving as a minister. God casts sin into the "sea of forgetfulness" when it is confessed and forgiven. Then, the born again individual becomes a "new man" ready to serve the Lord. You want to deny someone the right to work for the kingdom? |
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---melissa on 8/10/07 |
you're right rebecca, thats what usually happens,people tend to look on other's past than on someone's changed life...but for those who are already in the service of the Lord and then suddenly got divorced,then let God be the Judge... Be good shepherds working for the Lord,with passion and commitment,not just an obligation.I observed alot of pastors like this. |
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---chara6448 on 8/9/07 |
Ask forgiveness to the Lord, and learn from your mistakes, for God will forgive us...He has the ear to hear your confessions...and the heart to forgive you.Take care everyone and for those pastors whose life are devoted on the service for God's glory, keep it up... |
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---chara6448 on 8/9/07 |
Clergy are people just like everyone else, 38-42 percent of Christians marriages fail and end in divorce. Married Clergy fall with in that same statistic hopefully not at the same rate. I know a number of clergy both male and female who have had divorces while serving churches. The only thing that counts is did they set it affect their pastoral duties. Other wise it it no one else's business. |
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---notlaw99 on 8/9/07 |
Rebecca D,
Thank you soooo much for what you think. I would rather go with what GOD says. I bet you think Ghandi is in heaven too.
What denomination country club do you belong to? |
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---MissionSoldier on 8/9/07 |
A Pastor is just like everyone else. What happens in one's past, should stay in one's past. I know of a few men whom got a divorce before God calling them to preach. What is under the blood, stays under the blood. God knows that, the person that got a divorce knows that. The trouble is, there are to many picky people, who would rather talk about what someone did in their past, rather than what they do for the Lord. The way I see it, if someone is going to talk about me, then talk about me to the Lord. |
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---Rebecca_D on 8/9/07 |
Andrea,
That is why churches today have priest having affairs and gays in leadership but have no impact in thier community. It is not about what you think is ok but what GOD says. When a church gets away from scripture it becomes nothing more than a country club. |
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---MissionSoldier on 8/9/07 |
I know what the scripture says, but I also know the church would be missing many a wonderful pastor .....far be it for me to judge. There are a lot of things that we should do and don't and are told not to do and do ....Rom 8.....if it were my pastor I'd have to look at the individual circumstances.
It really is so easy to say no if your not the one caught in the middle.
I think it should be an exception not taken lightly. |
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---Andrea on 8/8/07 |
"the husband of one wife"
I always thought this phrase was there because during Biblical times it was not unusual for men to have wives and concubines all at the same time. If a wife commits adultery and divorces her husband, that is not something that should be held agains the husband. A divorced man (under those circumstances) should be free to remarry as he no longer has a wife. I would have no problem with such a man being a pastor if he is truly called of God. |
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---Susie on 8/8/07 |
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1 Timothy 3:2 Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober minded, self controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, |
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---MissionSoldier on 8/8/07 |
Well so many have done this and are still doing it,but this is not biblical. How can you be an example to the flock when you are not living according to the Word of God? I don't know what to say about all of this. God be the Judge. |
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---Robyn on 8/8/07 |
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