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Who is the Queen of Heaven in Jer 44:17?

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hello all i need to know is the queen of the heaveans the moon
---Cassandra on 7/7/10


Emcee, the question is "Who is the Queen of Heaven in Jeremiah 44:17?" She was a false goddess worshipped in Old Test. times. But, I'm pointing out that there IS a real Queen of Heaven. She is the Holy Spirit, RUACH ha KODESH, Mother SHKHINYAH. Mary was the earthly mother of Jesus (YAHUSHUA). The Holy Spirit is the True Spiritual Mother of Jesus (YAHUSHUA). He is the Son of GOD. A Son has Parents. Emcee, be careful not to scoff at what you do not understand. This is a BRAND NEW Revelation here!
---Gordon on 9/16/07


Gordon ::You are living in the OT Jeremiah was addressing the jewish people in Egypt. that is History.Do not be beguiled by past prophets who were not accepted by the people of their times.Places & times alter circumstances.we are talking about Jesus the Son of Man & His mother mary who gave Her all for the salvation of souls.Satan is the only one who gains from putting her down do you want to be his advocate too?Pride prevents us from admitting we are wrong.
---Emcee on 9/14/07


The True Queen of Heaven is the Holy Spirit. The RUACH ha KODESH. "Wisdom" in the Book of Proverbs. Any other female called the "Queen of Heaven" is Satan's FALSE replacement. Including the goddess in Jeremiah 44:17, "Mary" of the Catholic church, Mother Earth "Gaia", etc... GOD (YAHUVEH) has revealed through His Holy Modern Prophet that this is so. The Father YAHUVEH, The Son YAHUSHUA and The Holy Spirit, Mother SHKHINAH.
---Gordon on 9/14/07


Lorra8574 - You repeatedly say that the RCC does not worship Mary. Why do they have all the statues of Mary and shrines to her if she is not being worshipped? I am NOT talking about garden gnomes and you know that.
---Helen_5378 on 9/13/07




Emcee....I am not fighting you...I have absolutely nothing at all against you, you seem nice enough. I, as well as a bunch of others on here are only fighting against the false doctrines you believe and teach on these blogs. I will not believe all these added on theologies you come up with that are not in the bible, things that you cannot show me a scripture for written in PLAIN ENGLISH that says what you are preaching. I refuse to buy into your assumptions and fairy tales that twist the scriptures.
---Holly4jc on 9/13/07


Sorry Emcee...you cannot twist that scripture of "honor thy mother and father" to say God meant honoring Jesus and Mary...and just because I stated it refers to honoring your earthly mom and dad, that does not mean that I do not honor Jesus. Granted...I do not pray to, have statues of or worship Mary and I certainly do not dishonor her, for she was a very honorable woman of God. I value and honor her obedience to God in His role He had for her in God's grand scheme of things.
---Holly4jc on 9/13/07


Holly4??::Why do you fight me ReadLuke10:22-24. I know the concept of the Blessed Trinity before you were born.The inspiration is from God the interpretation is by man,that is why The RCC is universal & the rest are Denoms each with its own melody,and menue.
---Emcee on 9/13/07


Holly4??::"Honour your Father & Mother is for your earthly Parents"so are you saying don't Honour Jesus & Mary? Jesus words on the cross were in vain"Woman here is your son"and"here is your MOTHER"JN19:26-27.so we pick & choose what we want, who we want & when we want.is that 4jc2?
---Emcee on 9/13/07


Alexia - I have never stepped foot in a RCC church, unless it was for bingo.

for the record
atheist- born again - mormon - Assy God - non-denominational pentecostal. It doesn't change unless I add one.

I did have a few other cults visit but not baptized or converted
---Andrea on 9/13/07




I hear your whisper Whisper.since we are of different denoms your interpretation is your own My interpretation vide Matt16:17-19 comes from God .I do not have to Guess or use my human inefficient intellect God has already done that through the H/S who guides His church,till the end of time.
---Emcee on 9/13/07


Helen, why do we have so many garden gnomes infesting yards everywhere - is that the next big religion?
---lorra8574f on 9/13/07


andrea, thats about the third religious affilation you've declared. If you were a practicing catholic for 30 years you know better. NO where in the cathecism are we taught to worship Mary, period, end of story. You have some axe to grind.
---alexia on 9/13/07


Human religion is powerless. This is any form of worship man chooses for himself apart from the true worship of God {Romans 1:21-25} Some forms have a great show of refinement, humility, and asceticism however, they are powerless, to deal with sin and the old man they only feed self righteousness and pride and do not change the heart.
---Whisper on 9/13/07


Lorra8574 - You repeatedly say that the RCC does not worship Mary. Why do they have all the statues of Mary and shrines to her if she is not being worshipped?
---Helen_5378 on 9/13/07


Emcee: You are to Honor and Love God, with All your heart, ALL your soul and All your mind, Any honor given to Mary, is an eronious doctrine and has its origen from the lies of satan, This is a highly demonic false religious spirit that has pulled the wool over your eyes that is making you beleive lies rather than the truth, read the Bible, and study to show yourself approved.
---Whisper on 9/13/07


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I'm sorry...but I WILL NOT bow my knee to pray to ANYONE but Father God in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth..not to Mary, the Pope or to any other so-called, man appointed saint. Daniel did not bow his knee and he was thrown in the Lion's Den...you go Daniel! Neither did Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego and they were thrown into the firey furnace....but Jesus showed up, because they were true to bend their knee and worship the one and only true God, they would not bend to another. And neither shall I!
---Holly4jc on 9/13/07


1) I googled mary worship -
Yet for all these things, if a Christian confronts a Catholic on his/her worshipping of Mary, the reply is always the same:

"We don't worship her! We just give her honor that is due her as the Mother of God." But is this true? I practiced Catholicism for 30 years and I can, from experience, tell you that we prayed to her, through her, by her and for her as taught by the Roman hierarchy.

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if she is omnipresent she is god
---Andrea on 9/12/07


Emcee...Honor thy mother and father is referring to our earthly parents...not Jesus or Mary.
---Holly4jc on 9/12/07


Emcee...I forgot one other thing...Jesus in not the Father...Father, Son and Holy Spirit are separate, yet one. The Father is the Father, Jesus is Jesus and the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit, separate, yet all part of the Godhead as One.
---Holly4jc on 9/12/07


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1) Holly, you admit YOU have made the book the subject of idolotry by claiming the book to be the actual words of God. I follow Jesus. I use the bible as a tool to understand his teachings, and the collective understanding that people had of God.
---alexia on 9/12/07

So...Alexia...then you are stating that the Bible..the Word of God IS NOT the actual Words of God. Well...my Bible says differently. I guess we don't worship the same Jesus, you know, Jesus Christ of Nazareth,
---Holly4jc on 9/12/07


2) the One of the Bible, for that's the ONE I worship. Where do you get your Jesus from?

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...

2 Timothy 3:16
ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

John 17:17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your Word is truth.
---Holly4jc on 9/12/07


Whisper::If God is no respecter of Mortals Then why did He create us to His image & likeness.Genesis1:26. There IS a Queen in Heaven.Her Name is "MARY of the Immaculate Conception".You are recieveing the whispers of the unfamous & unholy .His name starts with S & it ain't Santa, but if you reposition the "N" you will get the identity.
---Emcee on 9/12/07


Holly4???:Read my post to Jim on 9/11all 3 words are there WOMAN MOTHER SON.God commanded "Honour your father and mother"If God Jesus is Father then who is Mother?"ans.The Immaculate Conception Mary" Notice the word HONOUR not worship as you have forcefully introduced, besides you wilfully insist that this is so.But that makes it an UNTRUTH.
---Emcee on 9/12/07


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It seems useless to continue. Catholic haters are intent on making this mary worship after being told countless times to the contrary. They wish to believe this. As one said, Mary deserves no honor. So sad.
---alexia on 9/12/07


Holly, you admit YOU have made the book the subject of idolotry by claiming the book to be the actual words of God. I follow Jesus. I use the bible as a tool to understand his teachings, and the collective understanding that people had of God.
---alexia on 9/12/07


Jeremiah 44:17 is refering to the moon goddess....

Holly and Andrea, AMEN, AND AMEN.

Mary is no Queen of Heaven. I want to tell you..put on the mind of Christ, not Mary. We have THE KING OF KINGS AND THE LORD OF LORDS. This is idolitry pure and simple, There is no Queen in Heaven for God is not a respector of persons, mere mortals. Mary deserves no honor whatsoever, what a mockery. This is ......continued.
---Whisper on 9/12/07


GOD WILL NOT GIVE HIS GLORY TO ANOTHER

2... hurting the very heart of God, HE IS A JEALOUS GOD, and I beleive Mary is in Heaven crying because of how people have taken Gods GLORY AND HONOR, and misplaced it onto Mary . How ridiculously irreverant can you get????? There is that {FALSE RELIGIOUS SPIRIT} raising its ugly demonic head again.
---Whisper on 9/12/07


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Andrea and Emcee,

Please read John 19:26 again (KJV). Christ doesn't call her Mother. He calls her Woman. Not out of disrespect, but so that we would not worship her. Our God is a jealous God.
---trey on 9/12/07


Holly, Catholics do not worship Mary and do not believe that Jesus would want that. It is Protestants who demand that we do. And the point of that passage was not to denigrate Mary in any way, but to show us that we are all part of His family - those that DO the will of the Father.
---lorra8574 on 9/11/07


Holly4??::read it again I have quoted from my NSRVJn19:26---son is writtenBut you may stagger along with your KJV The Douay Rheims reiterates this saying.I cannot force you to believe cause you have already been indoctrinated to deny.But the truth is there as I have quoted.
---Emcee on 9/11/07


Emcee: You stated the Jesus used the word "woman" when speaking to His mother, Mary so this automatically means that Mary is the woman spoken of in Gen 3:15 because God used that word there too. Well...Jesus called many women in the bible "woman". Look it up and you will see...are they all the woman spoken of in Gen 3:15 because He called them "woman"?
---Holly4jc on 9/11/07


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2) Do you realize that Sarah called Abraham "my lord"...does that mean that Abraham is the Lord? No way!

Genesis 18:12
Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I have grown old, shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?
---Holly4jc on 9/11/07


To mingle idolatry with Divine worship, and to reject the mediation of Christ, are provoking to God, and ruinous to men. All who worship images, or honour saints, and angels, and the queen of heaven, should recollect what came from the idolatrous practices of the Jews.
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It is a terrible thing to say I will pray to a dead man bc then maybe God will answer me. Jesus taught us how to pray the OT teaches it is a sin to pray to anyone other than God. It is idolatry.
---Andrea on 9/11/07


2) And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.

Here was the perfect opportunity for Jesus to lift up Mary and instruct all to pray to her, worship or revere her, but He didn't, He wanted everyone to know that doing the will of the Father was more important than any title or family ties and that by obeying God, we are all of the same family, equally important.
---Holly4jc on 9/11/07


1) Emcee...and even in this scripture, Jesus did not say to worship Mary or treat her any different than anyone else who was obedient to Gods' will.

Mark 12:46-50 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. Then one said to Him, Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.
But He answered and said to the one who told Him, Who is My mother and who are My brothers?
---Holly4jc on 9/11/07


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1) Alexia: According to the Bible..the written Word of God, Jesus is the Word and the Word became flesh...so yes...I do worship Jesus and Jesus is the Word and the Word became flesh and the Bible is the Word of God, so I worship Jesus, the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Word made flesh as written of in the Bible...the Word of God.

Who do you worship? If it's Jesus of Nazareth...do you use the Bible...the written Word of God? I sure hope so.
---Holly4jc on 9/11/07


2)
John:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

John 1:14
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
---Holly4jc on 9/11/07


Yep Emcee...the scripture does not have the word "son" in it...

John 19:27 Then He said to the disciple, Behold your mother! And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home.
---Holly4jc on 9/11/07


Jim:Consider Jesus in His final moments of His Incarnation, Endorses,the truth what John says 19:26 "Woman"here is your son" "Here is Your Mother"did not the diciple have a mother?, why did He use the term WOMAN-was it for want of an adequate word OR a reminder that she was that woman in Gen3:15.Mary understood His words Millions of others do why do you not accept this truth.It is the only time Jesus refers to HIS Mother in this personal way.We are Her children in TRUTH.
---Emcee on 9/11/07


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Andrea::"There are no 4 member of the trinity" Did I say that? or is it your assumption or a deep seated thought stamped in your understanding.Christians call Jesus Their brother, if so, Then Mary is their Mother.which ever way you turn the equation the truthful answer is the same "Behold your Mother"
---Emcee on 9/11/07


Comeon Emcee.......Christ is talking to the disciple. Please re-read John 19:26-27 over again.

**You wrote:Son behold your Mother"**
**Emcee...why did you add (son) to this?**
John 19:27 says:Then saith he(CHRIST) to the disciple, Behold thy mother!
---JIM on 9/11/07


Emcee - that would make Mary a pagan goddess.

Its closer to blasphemy then to giving her honor.

Jesus taught us how to pray - the Apostles taught you who to pray to

the Lord my God is one God

there is no fourth member of the trinity
---Andrea on 9/11/07


I do not know that angels have gender, but we do have God, The Father. Jesus is The Son. And the Queen/Giberah does not rule at all. She is not that kind of Queen. Her queenship exists solely because of the Kingship of her Son.
---lorra8574 on 9/11/07


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According to what I have read in the Bible, there is no gender in heaven so how can we concieve of a queen? There wouldn't need to be a queen when God himself is in control. We all rule and reign with Him(Jesus). No matter what is said in Jer.
---litla on 9/11/07


Andrea:: The children of Your Heavenly Mother"Mother behold your son,Son behold your Mother"Denial does not obviate the word of God.Which is TRUTH.
---Emcee on 9/11/07


holly, you rely on a book, and worse yet you rely on your interpretation of it. You worship a book and you worship it selectively. Tens of thousands spend their life becoming experts in something you think you can just read and start preaching.
---alexia on 9/11/07


Andrea:: The children of Your Heavenly Mother"Mother behold your son,Son behold your Mother"Denial does not obviate the word of God.Which is TRUTH.
---Emcee on 9/11/07


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Requests because in spite of Her busy schedule she still appears to her children & those who want to be her children.
Emcee

whose children?

Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
---Andrea on 9/11/07


Emcee: Per my previous request:

Repeated once again...You still have not shown me the scripture that says Mary is the 2nd Eve...so until I see that...I am not convinced. You can't show it to me because it's just not in the bible, in plain English as I requested.
---Holly4jc on 9/10/07


For those of you who believe that the queen of heaven is the Bride of Christ, I would ask you to start at verse 1 of Jer 44.
Please keep in mind that Jeremiah was a true prophet of God.
The people are rejecting what he has spoken to them from the Lord.
The people were turning back to idol worship.
---trey on 9/10/07


Emcee posted about Mary: You reallly do n't know much about Mary & no she willl never be overwhelmed by Requests because in spite of Her busy schedule she still appears to her children & those who want to be her children.

Emcee...you really crack me up...Mary has a busy schedule? Maybe she needs a Palm Pilot or Blackberry so she can keep better track of her schedule. Maybe I need to put in a request for an appointment, she has never appeared to me! LOL
---Holly4jc on 9/10/07


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Emcee...the reason I do not agree with the concept of what you call A2 & E2 is for one thing...it's not in the bible and the second reason is because I do not sit under false, man-made teachings. I only see it as the Bible calls it, the way it truly is according to the written Word of God. :-)
---Holly4jc on 9/10/07


Andrea::-)Smiles! I know you never.You reallly do n't know much about Mary & no she willl never be overwhelmed by Requests because in spite of Her busy schedule she still appears to her children & those who want to be her children.
Holly the reason why you do not understand the concept of A2 & E2 is because you are limited by the fact of man & woman as against Mother & son.But that is Gods way.Its those who do not want to accept the truth cannot believe .
---Emcee on 9/10/07


JodyMartin...I like your answer...have never really pondered that before, but I sure will pray and seek the Lord on it. Thanks for your input! :-)
---Holly4jc on 9/10/07


Emcee - I did not call you satan.
I was quoting scripture to explain why I think it is wrong to pray to anyone but Father/Son/Holy Spirt. Actually Jesus is the only reason we have any right to pray.

If you pray to Mary - she may not be able to handle a billion prayers - you'll make her nervous and over work the poor woman.

Jesus taught us how to pray and even if your sincere - Satan will take advantage of people with less faith then you. They may not know that only Jesus saves.
---Andrea on 9/9/07


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The Bride of Christ.
---jody_martin on 9/9/07


Emcee: You still have not shown me the scripture that says Mary is the 2nd Eve...so until I see that...I am not convinced. You can't show it to me because it's just not in the bible, in plain English as I requested. So...I reject that theory. Sorry.
---Holly4jc on 9/9/07


Alexia: I do not just blindly believe any dogma that man makes up. If I did then it would be extremely easy to be deceived and fall into the trappings of a cult. I measure everything against the Word of God and if it does not measure up and line up with the bible in the whole, then I do not just follow what any man makes up. Blindly following is how people end up in cults, it's how the people that followed David Koresh and Jim Jones ended up dead.
---Holly4jc on 9/9/07


John 17:17
Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.

Galatians 1:9
As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
---Holly4jc on 9/9/07


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Andrea:::I am not Satan.I call you Friend .call me what you so desire.But the TRUTH cries out for justice & Mercy This truth is found in His Church His teachings which does not pass away but like a rock is immovable.Matt16:17-19 "Heaven & earth will pass away but MY WORD will stand" Matt24:35.
---Emcee on 9/9/07


Andrea is correct.
Some of the Jews had taken Egyptian wives. The Egyptians worshipped the sun (Ra) and the moon (the queen of heaven).
Rom 1:23-25 speaks of how man left worshipping God and worshipped the creature rather than the Creator.
I Cor 8:19-20 says that worshipping anything other than God is worship of Satan.
---trey on 9/9/07


Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him ONLY'

I will ascend to heaven, I will raise my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of assembly in the recesses of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High (Isaiah 14:13-14)
---Andrea on 9/9/07


Well said Christina!!!
---Holly4jc on 9/9/07


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Christina & Holly::I am sorry you disagree.God started His Plan with A & E did it stop there? did God give up?His reply to satan in Genesis 3:15, shows He did not.Mary was the only one who was able to Find the entire & utimate Grace, of Her God & Saviour .It's there for you too, seek & you will find,as I know.
---Emcee on 9/9/07


Holly::"Just as it says Jesus is the last Adam"show me you read it & you do not believe.How many Adams were ther?The Adam who disobeyed & the Adam who was incarnate.what follows 1?read1Cor15:45.If there is a second Adam where is the second Eve Go FigureFind Mary & you will find Gods Grace if you find his grace you Find HIM.
---Emcee on 9/9/07


Holly::"Just as it says Jesus is the last Adam"show me you read it & you do not believe.How many Adams were ther?The Adam who disobeyed & the Adam who was incarnate.what follows 1?read1Cor15:45.If there is a second Adam where is the second Eve Go FigureFind Mary & you will find Gods Grace if you find his grace you Find HIM.
---Emcee on 9/9/07


Holly::"Just as it says Jesus is the last Adam"show me? You read it & you do not believe.How many Adams were there? The Adam who disobeyed & the Adam who was incarnate.what follows 1,my intellect tells me 2.Read 1Cor15:45.If there is a second Adam, where is the second Eve? Go Figure? Find Mary & you will find Gods Grace if you find His grace you Find HIM.So find Mary FIRST she points the way.
---Emcee on 9/9/07


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kind of unfair holly that you wont take on blind faith our claim that mary is queen of heaven, but you ask us to take on blind faith your unsupported claim that the bible is the repository of all truth to the exclusion of tradition or sacred dogma. Check!
---Alexia on 9/9/07


Emcee: "The reason I cite Gen3:15 is because this is the start of it all"

I must disagree since it is written "in the begining...in both Genesis 1 and John 1.
God's plan/purpose was in place from the time of creation, not the fall. Rev 13:8...to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world. It is Jesus, the Lamb of God who alone is our salvation...we don't need Mary to find Jesus since the word says the Father draws us to Him
---christina on 9/8/07


1) Emcee: Nowhere in the Bible does God refer to Mary as "Eve2" whereas the Bible does refer to Jesus as the last Adam. Please show me in PLAIN ENGLISH, not what you call deeper revelation that is really supposition, where it says in the Bible that Mary is the 2nd Eve. I want to see the scripture in black and white and as plain as the nose on your face, just as it is plain that it says Jesus is the last Adam. Then I will believe.
---Holly4jc on 9/8/07


2) And don't tell me I just have to believe by faith...because then I can also believe any old thing I want, for instance, the bible does not say Jesus was in love with Mary Magdeline, as some claim, yet can I just choose to believe that too just because I like romance and it works for my theology? Thanks, I'll be waiting for that scripture!

1 Corinthians 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam became a living being. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
---Holly4jc on 9/8/07


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3) 1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.

Romans 5:18-19
Therefore, as through one mans offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Mans righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. For as by one mans disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Mans obedience many will be made righteous.
---Holly4jc on 9/8/07


1) Satan was the problem,using EVE-"The woman" was the solution. Her creation at that instant was his trump card the rest is history.---Emcee on 9/7/07

I agree with Andrea on this one...Jesus was NOT Mary's creation, but God's. Mary just bore Him as God's chosen vessel. God did not need Mary, if Mary said no to God's plan, God could easily have chosen someone else....but God could NOT choose another Jesus. Jesus is God and was going to come to earth in the flesh no matter what.
---Holly4jc on 9/8/07


2) This was God's plan, not Mary's.The SOLUTION as you call it, was God's plan to have Jesus come in the flesh, born of a virgin to "undo" the curse that was brought upon humanity by the first "Adam" and his disobedience by having Jesus become the 2nd "Adam". God did not NEED a woman to create Adam and He did not NEED a woman to create Jesus, rather He CHOSE to use a woman to bring Jesus forth. If not Mary it could have been someone else, for it was GOD's plan, not Mary's.
---Holly4jc on 9/8/07


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