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Roman Catholic Bishop in the Netherlands has proposed people of all faiths refer to God as Allah to foster understanding. What do you think, should Christians do this?

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Wayne,I was just trying to show you that all things that God created have merit of one kind or another and there is nothing dirty,evil,or bad in a horse. You see I am not encumbered with your definitions of a name,I am,I repeat English or American speaking and that says Jesus,which I learned at Mama's knee,it worked for her and it works for me. If you feel so strong about Jesus Name in Hebrew meaning horse being terrible,then why in the world would you degrade Jesus by telling it? I have no reason to change the way I call Christ and frankly I'm not sure why you are being so silly suggesting I would use other crazy names since I said that. Bottom line I don't care what other people use to say Jesus or God,thats between them and Him.
---Darlene_1 on 6/9/09

---Darlene_1 So its OK to call the One and Only Messiah a horse, you believe this is what the Father called His Son! His Name in Hebrew means Yah is my Salvation, jesus means horse and thats fine with you! Yeshua said He came in His Father's Name, so you also call His Father a horse and see nothing wrong with this! No wonder the world is the way it is, those who claim to believe and love Him the most pray to a horse! In Hebrew a Horse is the sign of war and disease, I feel sorry for you.
---wayne on 6/9/09

Darlene_1 By your reasoning, you should be able to call the Messiah lucifer because it means light bearer. When are you believers going to wake up and live your lives and walk the way Yeshua walked? If you love Him and His Father then you need to live and do what He told you. As Yeshua said, He came in His Fathers Name and you do not accept Him, but another shall come in his own name and him you shall accept. You say you use it because you speak english, then call Him Joshua, for this is His Name in english.
---wayne on 6/9/09

Wayne,to answer your question I must say I would use Jesus,God for I am an English speaking Christian. To me the whole thing is foolish. My God doesn't need me to fit Muslims or Jewish languages or any other,his power is such he will tell me what I need to do,and can equip me supernaturally with his anointng,wisdom,and whatever else I need to reach other people. As for Jesus meaning horse in Hebrew,thats fine, Horses are mighty fine "people". They are noble, loyal,loving,they'll carry a load,give trasportation,come when you call,go that extra mile when asked,they never leave you. All they want in return is your love,fellowship,and to be cared for. My,my sounds familar,horse isn't such a bad meaning for the name Jesus after all.
---Darlene_1 on 6/9/09

All of this over the term Allah wich Arab Christains use also, and yet western christains use the name jesus which isnt his name in english, its Joshua from the Hebrew Yehoshua/Yeshua. Lets get real, christains use pagan terms constantly, and yet hate this term.Allah in Hebrew is Eloha meaning God, jesus in Hebrew is Heysoos and means horse, which one would you use?
---wayne on 6/9/09

Valerie,I used the term "dear"to try to show I was being friendly and not confrontational. I gave a very candidly,honest report of all the information found and thought I was being fair about it. I made no judgement about whether the Vatican backed him or not. I have no theory,never tried to make everyone as belonging to the RCC. I don't know what the Vatican says about anything,other than what I look up,and thats not much so don't include me as if I do. Bishop Muskin is RC and there was no evidence at the Vatican site or any other that he was excommunicated. He planned to retire shortly after he broke with Vatican Leaders and I guess he did. I hope this clarifies it for you.
---Darlene_1 on 6/8/09

I understand your point Glenn.
All I was saying is that these words are just translations of the God of Abraham.
I can understand where some confusion might set in if your weren't testifying about the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ. In which case, as Paul referenced the Unknown God as One and the Same, I would as well to show them the True Way. Would I be wrong in that respect?
---MIchael on 6/8/09

Michael, 5/30/09:
The word baal (Lord) originally didn't have the negative connotation that it has today. Some Jews were named this, 1Chronicles 5:5, 9:36. But the term was soon so connected to the Caananite gods that it was no longer used, Hosea 2:16. When Paul visits Athens, he makes reference to the "Unknown God", not Jupiter, Acts 17:22-32. If you were to talk to someone who is an Idolater, a Druid, or a Hindu, do not call the Lord by any of those names. Yes, it does matter.
---Glenn on 6/6/09

My dear, your own theory has everyone belonging to the RCC.
So, Luther is still a Catholic? What does 'excommunication' mean to you?

If you acknowledged that he broke with the Vatican, then you know the Vatican does not endorse his thinking.

Many Bishops thinks abortion isn't a sin. But, everyone including you know that the Vatican states Abortion is a SIN!

That information of the Bishop breaking away from the Vatican should have been said. Andrea and you are making it seem that the Vatican backs up the Bishop.

Also, If I were you, I would stop reading 'Catholic World News daily'.
Not a good source.
If you want the truth, go to the Vatican website instead.
If you want to know the truth about the RCC?
---Valerie on 6/5/09

Valarie, sorry dear but I looked it up on Catholic World News Daily,and it was Bishop Martinus "Tiny" Muskins,a Roman Catholic from Breda Netherlands who did in fact suggest Christians should call God Allah to promote better relations with Muslims. In all fairness I must add he has a history of stirring up occasional controversy. He actually broke with the Vatican Leadership to endorse handing out Male protection to use when having an intimate experience with a woman to avoid catching Aids. He does belong to RCC but there's little doubt in my mind he is a rebel,black-sheep in the RC family.
---Darlene_1 on 6/4/09

Roman Catholic Bishop in the Netherlands has proposed people of all faiths refer to God as Allah to foster understanding. What do you think, should Christians do this?--Andrea on 8/15/07

You are mistaken. It wasn't a Roman Catholic Bishop who suggested that.
You have confused some other leader and assumed he was a Catholic Bishop.
Many church leaders dress similiar to Catholics.

Please state the Name of the person, so you can correctly associate his membership in another Church.

The Roman Catholic Church has enough lies blamed on them.

Please don't add to the confusion, it isn't nice.
---Valerie on 6/1/09

It's all language really.
If I'm in an english speaking country, I will use 'God' to denote the Father of my Lord Jesus Christ.
If I'm in an arabic speaking country, I will use 'Allah' to denote the same.
If I'm in an hebrew speaking country, I will use 'Jehovah' to denote the same as well.
Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
1 Corinthians 9:18 What is my reward then? [Verily] that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.
1 Corinthians 9:19 For though I be free from all [men], yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
---Michael on 5/30/09

Isaiah 44:6 says Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts, I [am] the first, and I [am] the last, and beside me [there is] no God. This doesnt leave very much room for Allah or any other so called god. In the Garden Jesus said to the soldiers IAM he, the all fell backward, Why? Because he is the great IAM. Isaiah 44:8 says Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared [it]? ye [are] even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, [there is] no God, I know not [any].
---Dale_Herr on 5/30/09

Why would Christians refer to the Lord as moon god. The god in the Quran and the God (YHVH) described in the Holy Bible are not the same. Jesus paid the price for the sins of those who receive him as their Lord and Savior. He paid the price for those sins at his death on that cross. Allah promises to give some white grapes to those who die in his cause.
---Glenn on 5/29/09

Well two quite different views of me. Andrea, you are locked in blinders which is common to fundamentalists. You worry about others salavation so much. I know much more than you I suspect (I once wrote a 100 page paper on "Rachel and the household Gods of Laban". and another on the Christology of John, as well as the treatment of "light" in John.)Some of us know the enemy is fundamentalism, whether Islamic, Christian, Jewish etc.
---alexia on 9/19/07

Alexia - your comments actually show a lack of substance and a real immaturity in the things of God. I'm not saying this to insult you. You seem to know 'about' the bible but are unable or unwilling to live it.
Please forgive my boldness, but you need to get under some sound teaching.

I've been behind you on a few dozen posts and you really need to rethink your commitment to Christ
---Andrea on 9/18/07

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1) Alexia, your comments show that your are a good and rightous Christian growing in knowledge,wisdom and understanding.You have not let others propaganda and religous indoctrinations blind you to the truth.The Holy Quran mentions good Christians like you.
---Lari_S on 9/18/07

2) Surah 3:113-115 states,

"They are not all alike, of the followers of the Book there is an upright party, they recite Allah's communications in the nighttime and they adore (Him)...They believe in Allah and the last day, and they enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and they strive with one another in hastening to good deeds, and those are among the good... And whatever good they do, they shall not be denied it, and Allah knows those who guard (against evil)."
---Lari_S on 9/18/07

andrea, You never quit bashing. I think its definitely worth thinking about. I refer to God as Allah occassionally. Ecumenism is important today, more important than ever before. It's the same God as most all would agree, since we know our historical connections.
---alexia on 9/18/07

lari S- forgive the RCC. You'll be able to think more about who Jesus is to you. Its not that we don't seek sound doctrine - its more that He is able to teach you His doctrine. Preconcieved ideas, bad feelings, are not good formats for coming to an understanding of Jesus Christ "IN" you. Your hope of glory.

be blessed dear and soak Him up - just go and sit in His presence and ask -

"Jesus minister Your life in me", all christians need to do this - its HIS promise to you
---Andrea on 9/18/07

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"Muslims and Christians do NOT worship the same GOD!"-Andrea

Andrea, I agree with your comments because Muslims believe in the same one God(Alah-Alaha) as Abraham and Jesus while Trinitarians believe in a syncretized Pagan Triune Greco-Roman Sun-God(Sol-Invictus,Mithras,Helios-Apollo) who was born on December 25th.
---Lari_S on 9/14/07

keep compromising - if they get a hold of you - they'll cut your tongue out. In Iran they do it one layer at a time.
So much for worshiping the same God.

They might call it the same but remember Mohammed developed the faith 500 years after Christ yet denies Christ as God.

Jesus Christ is God the Creator of the Universe. Islam does not agree - so you keep right on compromising
Soon the day may come when you'll be asked to bow to ALLAH - then you can choose
---Andrea on 9/13/07

1) It is a shame most Christians are totally unaware that Jesus called his God Alah(AaLaA) and Alaha when he preached the word of God Almighty on this earth. The following are common words and phrases of God spoken by Jesus in his Aramaic language when he walked this earth.

YA AlAAH = Oh God
ALAAHAA rekhmaanele = God is merciful
ALAAHAA minaakh(F)/minookh(M) = God be with you
---Lari_S on 9/13/07

2) ALAAHAA naadiraakh(F)/naadirookh(M) = God keep you in well being
ALAAHA maanikhle(M)/maanikhlaa(F) = God rest his(M)/her(F) soul(what you say to someone when someone they love dies)
ALAAHA baarikhlaakh(F)/baarikhlookh(M) = God bless you
shimaa d ALAAHAA = in the name of God
shqeere d ALAAHAA = thanks to God
maarryaa/ALAAHAA saahaadile = honest to God/God is the witness
mintaa min ALAH = with thanks to God
broochtaa d AALAAHAA = a blessing from God
---Lari_S on 9/13/07

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Lari S - compromise on Jesus?

Who ever is ashamed of me I will not confess before the Father.

good luck with that.
---Andrea on 8/31/07

note I always try to mention my sources - I copied (web) that about the dome of the rock - didn't I sound smart!
---Andrea on 8/31/07

Andrea, Muslims take Jesus' true teachings serious.It is a blasphemy to worship any one but Allah(Alaha).Jesus worshipped,submitted to and prayed to Allah(Alaha).He even told Satan that only Allah(Alaha)should be worshipped.

Matthew 4:10 Then said Yeshua to him, Away with thee, Satana ! for it is written that the Lord thy Alaha thou shalt worship, and him only thou shalt serve.
---Lari_S on 8/31/07

Muslims and Christians do NOT worship the same GOD!

Dome of the Rock has permanently inscribed on it the following

The Sonship of Jesus and the Trinity are false, and It is not fitting that God should beget or father a child.

Yet, John in the New Testament says the exact opposite in regards to the Father/Son relationship:

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar, except the one denying, saying that Jesus is not the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one denying the Father and the Son.
---Andrea on 8/30/07

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I confess there is no God but Father, Son, and Holy Spirit: and Jesus is God Incarnate.

As for Bp. Tiny, he's a good little dhimmi, isn't he?
---Jack on 8/31/07

lari s -
In Islam you can be killed for worshiping anyone but Allah - if you worship Jesus its considered blasphemy against allah - so just what are you supporting?

Fight as hard for Jesus Christ as you do for the RCC.
---Andrea on 8/28/07

Warwick, the Holy Quran and Aramaic Bible(N.T.)agree that(Allah-Alaha)is the same one God and not a Trinity(God is 3 persons).

1.Surah 2:163 And your God is one God,there is no God but He!He is the Beneficent,the Merciful.

2.Surah 112:1 Say:He, Allah, is One.

3.Mark 12:29 Yeshu saith to him,The first of all the commandments(is),Hear,Israel,The Lord our Alaha is one Lord:

4.Mark 10:18 Yeshua says to him: Why do you call me good? There is none good, but one, Alaha.
---Lari_S on 8/27/07

Warwick and djconklin,your comments show that you both don't know anything about Aramaic(Jesus'language).If you read the Aramaic lexicon-concordance then you word see and know the Aramaic word for God is Alah(AaLaH) and Alaha.If you read an Aramaic glossary and dictionary then you would see and know that Alaha( and not El or Eloi) is the word for God in the Aramaic language.You can't disputed this truth with your incorrect and bias opinions.
---Lari_S on 8/23/07

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LariS I dont agree with your translation.

However it's not the point the point being the God of the Bible is the one God because He alone is the Creator & Redeemer who died for us. He isn't the god as described in the Koran:

- The Biblical God became man(sent His Son)to die to solve our problem-He died for us!
-The Muslim god asks we send our sons (Martyrs) to die for him.

- Our God says forgive your enemies & love them.
- The Muslim god says kill your enemies.
---Warwick on 8/23/07

"Alahi, Alahi, lamah shebaqtani?"

Actually, He said "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani," the "El" being short for "elohim" or God.
---djconklin on 8/23/07

Foster understanding?
I don't believe that the Muslim/Islamic "god" is the same as mine.

The Bible says, MY God doesn't lie. IT says,love your brothers & enemies, tells us to SPREAD the Word.

The Quran says to kill infidels. Those who aren't Islamists, are infidels/enemies to them.
Not converting to Islam,means death at the hand of Islamists, not a spiritual death.

Either the Bible's God lies or the Quran's god lies. I say their Mohammedic god lies.
---Pat on 8/23/07

"Jesus actually cried out in his Aramaic language"

Who told you that He cried out in Aramaic?
---djconklin on 8/23/07

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Warwick, Jesus actually cried out in his Aramaic language,

"Alahi, Alahi, lamah shebaqtani?
My God,My God,why hast thou forsaken me?

This is the correct and literal Aramaic translation of Mark 15:34 , Matthew 27:46 and Psalms 22:1.In the Aramaic language, to turn Alaha(God) into a first person possession of "my" you have to drop the final "a" and substitute "i".The suffix "i" is "my" in the Aramaic languge.
---Lari_S on 8/22/07

Allah (means one God) is just one name that the Moslems use to describe God. There are 99 such as Compassionate One, merciful one, etc. but they all refer to the one God. They are monotheist or believe in only one God. They are the decendents of Abraham through Ismael so it is the same God Christians worship but they dont recognize Jesus as the Son of God, only a great prophet.
---janet on 8/22/07

Warwick, torra8574, Andrea:

This is true. But it's the same in English. Many religions and cults use the name "God", referring to the same "God" as Christians believe in, but teaching vastly different things about him. If people lie in God's name, is that his fault, or theirs?

There is the sardonic (yet somehow sadly appropriate) prayer:
"Lord, save me from your followers!".
---Mark on 8/21/07

Warwick, torra8574, Andrea:

The English word "god" has the same meaning as the Arabic word "'allah" and the Hebrew word "'eloah" (in fact if you look at how they are spelled, the consonants are identical ('LH)- in Semitic languages like Hebrew and Arabic, consonants define the root meaning, vowels just provide inflection (and vary slightly between the two languages).
---Mark on 8/21/07

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this is really called - appeasement - and it is fruitless.
It is actualy empowerment
My wish is not to insult muslims just don't try to push Jihad into our lives.
Believe in Jesus - believe in what He testified of Himself.
---Andrea on 8/20/07

greetings.Jesus was fluent in many languages.His native language is not aramaic.Matthew's gospel was in aramaic as he ordinarily would have wrote it yet Matthew's gospel was accredited to him by his student who wrote the gospel yet Matthew's student ordinarily wrote in greek.This aramaic influence at Jesus' cross is also found in Mark's gospel that Matthew's student had also.Jesus simply quoted Psalms from Jewish not muslim traditional scripture.
---earl on 8/20/07

LariS-Jesus cried out-'Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani?'-My God my God why have you forsaken me?-quoting Psalm 22:1 As far as I know this is Aramaic. Nonetheless The God of the Bible is not the same god as the Islamic Allah. Compare the Koran & the Bible to see the absolute difference.

Even if Allah was a name for the Biblical God(preexisting Islam)it means nothing. I could start a religion calling my God Baal while having nothing to do with the original god Baal. Names are easy.
---Warwick on 8/20/07

I would like to point out that if Arabic Christians are using "Allah" for God (if that is the correct Arabic word for God, then they are right to do so), it has not helped them with the Muslims, nor fostered any understanding between the two faiths.

According to Islam, if you do not accept Mohammed as God's prophet, then you are an infidel regardless of what else you believe. And that we cannot do.
---lorra8574 on 8/19/07

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Warwick, it is a fact that Jesus spoke Aramaic when he walked this earth.It is a undisputed fact that "Alaha" and not Eloi is the word for God Almighty in the Aramaic language.Please consult and read any Aramaic dictionary,glossary or lexicon for common words and terms.Also read an Aramaic translation of the New Testament.You don't have to guest anymore because you have been exposed to the truth.
---Lari_S on 8/19/07

LariS I thought Jesus referred to His Father as 'Eloi' (the singular of Eloihim) not 'Alaha' as you say.

None the less the God of creation has nothing to do with the tribal god Allah. Not any more than 'love your enemies' has to do with a religion where enemies are to be killed-Surah 47.4 for example.

When we Christians worship Christ we are indeed worshiping the one God, the creator. The God who existed from eternity.
---Warwick on 8/19/07

When Jesus walked this earth he called his God in his Aramaic language "Alaha" and "Ya Alah".It is a historical fact that Allah(Arabic) originated from Alaha(Aramaic) which is proven and confirmed by most scholars on this subject.Arab speaking Jews and Christians call God Almighty Allah.I find it very ironic and strange that Christians would reject,insult and despise the very God that Jesus believe in ,worshipped and submitted to.
---Lari_S on 8/18/07

When Jesus walked this earth he called his God in his Aramaic language "Alaha" and "Ya Alah".It is a historical fact that Allah(Arabic) originated from Alaha(Aramaic) which is proven and confirmed by most scholars on this subject.Arab speaking Jews and Christians call God Almighty Allah.I find it very ironic and strange that Christians would reject,insult and despise the very God that Jesus believe in ,worshipped and submitted to.
---Lari_S on 8/18/07

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Our God has many names , but to the exclusion of those and the inclusion of one being 'allah' would be to give God the characteristisc of what is known of allah.

When people call God allah as a name for their creator that is not sin but to identify God using the Islamic name is sin
---Andrea on 8/17/07

Christians should run a million miles away from this. There is only one God who sent His Son Jesus to die on the Cross. His name is NOT Allah. Allah is the name of the Muslim god. God wants people to KNOW Him and His Son Jesus. You can try to understand God all you want, but you won't have any knowledge of Him until you are born-again of His Spirit.
---Helen_5378 on 8/17/07

For the record, the name Allah, as used of God, does appeasr in the OT Hebrew.
We may not know how the Holy Name of God was pronounced, but it can be said with certainty it wasn't Jehovah.
---mike8384 on 8/17/07

Is't there 99 names for god?
---freeda on 8/16/07

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Bill, your info may be correct, I do not speak Arabic. But I cannot seem to find a basic reference for a "god" that is not the supreme being. And Arabic dictionaries that I have seen state the Allah is the same God that Jews and Christians worship, but do not indicate if "Allah" is his name or the Arabic word for "god".
---lorra8574 on 8/16/07

Marcia: "(Just my theory)"

With God there are no theories.
---Steveng on 8/16/07

Bishop Muskens has a history of creating occasional controversy within the Church. He has broken with Vatican leadership to endorse the use of condoms as a means of preventing the spread of AIDS, and in 2006 he traveled to Uganda to endorse the work of a group called Stop AIDS Now, which emphasized condom distribution.
---Steve on 8/16/07

I would say that this man does not himself know the God he professes to worship. That is why he cannot understand there being any difference. The god referred to as Allah by muslims is NOT the GOD of the bible.
---RitaH on 8/16/07

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In Hebrew, "Eloah" means "[a] god" and the plural "Elohim" means "gods" (or "God" when used in the singular).

Arabic is similar. "Allah" means "[a] god" (or "God"). This can be seen in both Christian and Muslim writings in Arabic.

In English, we take generic nouns and use them to refer to a specific person by capitalizing them (for example, God, Mom, Dad, President, the Queen, etc.). Captal-A Allah is the same.
---Mark on 8/16/07

Christians rarely use the name of God anyway.

His name is not "God" any more than my father's name is "Dad". Those are just terms of familiarity.

It is "Jehovah" (or similar - the actual correct pronunciation has been lost to us).

Of course, those like the Jehovah's Witnesses are obsessed with always using the correct name of God. This seems silly to me. How often do people call their father "Mr. Smith" rather than "Dad"?
---Mark on 8/16/07


Hagar would not have known God if it weren't for Abraham introducing him to her. Abraham is called our father because it was he who introduce God to us all through his faith. If Abram would of never step out in Faith Hagar would of never known God. (Just my theory)
---Marcia on 8/16/07

Was't it the God of Abraham that helped Hagar and Ishmael hearing her sorrow and promises her that her descendants will be too numerous to count which turned into the Arab nation? Unfortunately, Muhammad twisted the OT around to serve his purpose and became a self-serving false "prophet." So, in the beginning, God was Allah and Allah was God?
---Steveng on 8/15/07

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1) Guy...I don't think you are crazy at all. When I got saved (I had been raised in the Jewish faith, from my mom's side), I had no idea which church to go to...there are so many different kinds. Well...the one place God put upon my heart to NOT go to was the Catholic Church. This was definitely God, because I grew up in an Italian Catholic neighborhood, so anything I knew concerning Jesus was what I knew from Catholics.
---Holly4jc on 8/15/07

2) But God said no and led me elsewhere, when in reality, at the time, since I was already familiar with the Catholic church, I probably would have felt more comfortable entering into one...but God knew better! Instead He led me to another church, very spirit filled, which was way strange to me at first, but God used that church to bring alot of healing into my life and to learn the Word. His ways are definitely NOT our ways. Thank you Jesus!
---Holly4jc on 8/15/07

Good advice Guy!!
---Marcia on 8/15/07

AMSTERDAM - A Roman Catholic Bishop in the Netherlands has proposed people of all faiths refer to God as Allah to foster understanding, stoking an already heated debate on religious tolerance in a country with one million Muslims. (associated press)

We cannot change the Name of God for any reason. Shame on that man.
---Amy9384 on 8/15/07

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Nothing would surprise me concerning the Catholic Church. They make up their own rules. They have strayed from the truth and it's one reason why I am no longer Catholic. The main reason is (I know I'll be thought of as crazy by some Catholic's for this) GOD TOLD ME TO. If you do think I'm crazy or making this up, your mocking God. It's better to not even think evil. Just trust in God, follow His son Jesus, and read the King James version of the Bible. Seek God in Jesus name and remember, He is faithful.
---Guy on 8/15/07

Absolutely NOT. There is only one true and living God, The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and He is the Great I AM. Our Heavenly Father who sent His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to seek and to save all who believe and recieve Him. Jesus Christ sent us The Comforter, the Holy Spirit who leads us into all Truth and Righteousness. This is our God.
---Cynthia on 8/15/07

Rest assured everyone, this is from one misguided bishop. There is NO WAY the Vatican would refer to God as Allah and no lay Catholic ever will either.
---Chris on 8/15/07

I will not call God "Allah" for reasons stated elsewhere on this site. And I disagree with the proposition. I can understand why someone would think that is a good idea - Islam is slowly moving throughout the world and will not be easy to deal with. But the solution is prayer, not compromise.

Bishop Tiny Muskens (said Bishop) is a dissenter on other matters and not a proper rep for the Catholic Church.
---lorra8574 on 8/15/07

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I wish I could ignore it. After the Pope said that all other churches were false and then that he had no problem with evolution I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I think I am crying in the wind sometimes---
this man has enormous power to effect millions of BELIEVERS we need to pray for him and about this.

you have no idea what is going on-- its the EU - UN - the vatiacan is up for statehood in the UN - in the EU they bargain in the EU as representatives of all Christians
---Andrea on 8/15/07

This "Roman Catholic" man must be a delight to Pope Benedict (O:]

I think "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for "God". So, if you were speaking in Arabic in order to win souls to Jesus, you would say "Allah" whenever you meant "God"...IF my info is correct.
---Bill_bila5659 on 8/15/07

# 1 A good intention, but ill-conceived.
Jews and Christians have the same God, although different understandings of Him.
Muslims say their "God is the God of Abraham", therefore the same as the Judaeo/Christian one, but His character and laws are so vastly different as to make him a different god
---alan_of_UK on 8/15/07

# 2 Only Muslims call their god "Allah" ... why should Jews & Christians have to use that name, and why should all the others, Sikhs, Buddhists, Animists, Hindhus, have to call their assorted gods Allah?
The idea really is crackpot.
---alan_of_UK on 8/15/07

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Paul says, "I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some." > this in 1 Corinthians 9:22 > you might read this in context of verses 19-23.

I can see that Paul, in talking with Arabic Gentiles, might have made himself
"all things" to them, by using their name, "Allah", to mean God.

IF "Allah" is the Arabic name for God, then we should not let wrong people's use of this name stop us from using it for the right reason.
---Bill_bila5659 on 8/15/07

I would take note of it, it won't be long before others in authority will follow in the RCBs footsteps. It won't be long, until the anti-Christ is revealed and all those who are in Christ will know it. However by that time the World will be so blinded that no one will believe.

We are very close.
---Marcia on 8/15/07

I will continue to do the same thing I do when other Catholic leaders say something. I will ignore it as it is not from God.
---Susie on 8/15/07

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