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Jefferson Rewrote The NT

Why did Thomas Jefferson rewrite the New Testament?

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That's why all that are highly esteemed among men need scripturally ignorant voters to hide their accountability behind(PSALMS 49:11-13,14).
Here, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty...(Gen 49:8-10, Rom 3:17,18-20,21-22,22,22)
---rwdavis on 5/20/11

Jefferson was onto the wolfie preachers of his day....and they are worse today.

Meaty little post with "witnesses" which is rare.....rare steak. Rare to get steak.
---Trav on 5/21/11


Thomas Jefferson's Red Letter Edition of the King James 1611 was his own private study, never intended to be distributed among pagan Christians who listen to priests' wormwood (Jer 23:1-3,15,28-30, Matt 3:11-12).

They were his study notes used to very quickly shut the dark holes of priests who, still to this day, misquote scripture to justify their own finger pointing.
Of course, there is no sin except by a finger pointers version of law (Rom 3:19-21, 1stCor 15:51,55-56, Hos 13:14).

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That's why all that are highly esteemed among men need scripturally ignorant voters to hide their accountability behind(PSALMS 49:11-13,14).



Here, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty...(Gen 49:8-10, Rom 3:17,18-20,21-22,22,22)
---rwdavis on 5/20/11


athiest, Jefferson had a most interesting life. I will say, Jefferson never fathered any children with Sally while still married. If Sally had not beenn black, I believe he would have married her, but it was illegal for him to do so. I also understand he freed his 6 children, although he could not admit opemly fathering them.

And his ramaining daughter took care of Sally after Jefferson died, and Sally remained on the property until her death.

I find the whole story actually a sad one. She had the opportuniity to live in France with her brother a free woman yet she chose not to. I do believe they really loved one another.
---kathr4453 on 5/20/11


Not sure what "moral lessons" Jefferson learned from his own little book.
---atheist on 5/19/11

Now how could you judge a thing like that, O GOD-less one?
What book of morals does an Atheist have? Honoring none...it would be none.
Do you keep,honor the Laws given by our GOD??? Or whatever feels goooood at any particular moment??
The Atheist Moral Code Book?
Declare your commandments....who gave them too you? gods of logic? god of "U".
Even dogs can be trained. Who was your trainer in proper behaviour......have you been a bad,bad doggie atheist?
---Trav on 5/20/11


"The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth" was written by Thomas Jefferson.

Sarah "Sally" Hemings was a mixed-race slave owned by the Thomas Jefferson through inheritance by his wife. She was the half-sister of Jefferson's wife, Martha Wayles Skelton Jefferson by their father John Wayles. She was the concubine of Thomas Jefferson after his wife's death and he fathered six children with her.

Not sure what "moral lessons" Jefferson learned from his own little book.
---atheist on 5/19/11




---kathr4453 I was quoting someone else and have no idea now who it was. It seems to me that the reason for my quoting someone else in this matter was to point out the possibility and availability always availability of salvation to those who call.
---mima on 5/19/11

mima, the religious right has certainly messed with history.

Many even say John Adams was Born Again. John Adams was a deist and deists do not believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ, and believe anyone who does is a heretic.

We must receive the Jesus of Scripture..not the idea of Him.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11


---kathr4453 I was quoting someone else and have no idea now who it was. It seems to me that the reason for my quoting someone else in this matter was to point out the possibility and availability always availability of salvation to those who call.
---mima on 5/19/11


mima, I can find nowhere Thomas Jefferson received Jesus Christ as LORD and Savior.

The Jefferson Bible is one Thomas Jefferson wrote, taking out anything and everything concerning the BLOOD of Christ, and deity of Christ. He made a book based solely on moral living.

So, did Thomas have a change of heart concerning these two issues? If not, he is not a Christian.

mima, I would like to see those facts you stated. I've researched the life of Thomas Jefferson for many years.

That is a new one on me.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11


\\This acceptance was possible because the Lord Jesus Christ has before every man set out an open signed contract\\

More unbiblical language, mima?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/17/11


I'm glad that Jefferson "found the Lord as Savior". I did NOT say Diests ARE Christians, but that they may SEE THEMSELVES as "Christian" (not understanding what a Christian really is).

For years my father called himself a "Christian", since he lived in the US, believed in God and wasn't Jewish or any other religion.

Actually, his beliefs made him a "Deist" but he did not know what that was. Nor did he understand what made a person CHRISTIAN.
---Donna66 on 5/16/11




Cluny and Donna66- I once read the entire "Adams Chronicles". It is in them that this information can be found.

"Accepting Christ as his Savior" is simply the phrase I chose as my attemt at letting you know that Jefferson finally did place all of his faith in Christ alone.

Also, "Deists" were not Christians by common Biblical standards, at that time or now.
---Lutherist on 5/16/11


"A few days before Jefferson's death, he finally repented and accepted Christ as his Savior". Jefferson's acceptance of Christ is open recognition of what Christ has done. This acceptance was possible because the Lord Jesus Christ has before every man set out an open signed contract. And to avail yourself of the benefits of that contract (which is salvation) you have but to request your name be added as acceptance of such. John 6:37 says," any man that comes to me I will in no wise cast out? You can accept John 6:37 as being truthful or you can call God a liar!
---mima on 5/16/11


\\A few days before Jefferson's death, he finally repented and accepted Christ as his Savior.\\

Did he?

"Accepting Christ as one's Savior," aside from the fact it's nowhere in the Bible, was not part of late 18th-early 19th religious jargon.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/15/11


Most "deists" do not call themselves by that name. They may call themselves "Christians", though they do not believe in Christ's unique divinity.
Some claim they attempt to follow the "teachings" of Christ....which, to them, qualifies them as "Christians".
---Donna66 on 5/15/11


It's interesting to note that John Adams (2nd President), a very strong Christian, continued to witness to Jefferson (3rd President) his entire life. Jefferson, a Deist, had lengthily theological arguments with Adams.

As each former president grew closer to their final days, these discussions grew more heated and determined. A few days before Jefferson's death, he finally repented and accepted Christ as his Savior.

John Adams' last words were "Thomas Jefferson survives". Most people at the time thought Adams made a mistake, since Jefferson died a few hours earlier. I believe Adams meant exactly what said, "Thomas Jefferson survives... forever!"

Both men died on the exact same day, July 4, 1826.
---Lutherist on 5/15/11


\\How is Jefferson a Great Christian?
---Scott on 5/13/11\\

It's called "irony".

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/14/11


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Cluny, 2 possiblilities are happening in this saying. Jefferson does not agree with what God said or HS has not revealed the meaning of the passage, thus God was not ready to reveal something to Jefferson. Which is why you can read a passage 100's of times and get something new each time.
How is Jefferson a Great Christian?
---Scott on 5/13/11


What the Great Christian Thomas Jefferson said about the Gospels.

"The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man, and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills."
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/12/11


Most say deist without knowing what the word means.

but jefferson claimed to be a follower of jesus, but edited out the miralces of jesus and denied the virgin birth among other basic doctrines.

"Regardless of how one feels about Jeffersons ardent repudiation of Calvinism and the concept of the Trinity, it is nevertheless evident that Jefferson portrayed himself as one who praised Jesus and embraced the basic doctrines of Christianity." - the western experience

How you deny the miracles of Jesus yet praise him is beyond me.
---aka on 5/12/11


Can anyone point out for us where Jefferson ever claimed to be a Deist? As president Jefferson made it clear he claimed to be a Christian. This was in a letter to Benjamin Rush around 1803
---Gerry_Parker on 5/12/11


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I am so very thankful at learning this one.
---catherine on 7/7/08


How did he do it? I didn't realize anyone was that stupid. He did not succeed! Mabe I am pretending ignorance. Please explain.
---catherine on 7/7/08


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I am happy to have copies of the original Greek scriptures, and that they can also be obtained on the market, and I am equally glad not to have copies of any new testaments from jefferson.
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Regardless of Jefferson's stand on religion and Gods Word ...if he were not one of 56 men taking a stand against britain and forming the beginings of freedom those who live in this once great country called america would not possess the freedoms we had ...although the patriot act and the 14th amendment have eroded that and we are declining in Gods favor as predicted in His Word ...nevertheless...
---Rhonda on 7/4/08


As a historian, I find many of the descriptions of what "TJ" did very accurate and I thank you all for that.

However, what irks me is that some believe that "TJ" is a non-believer. This is not true, he did follow the teachings of Christ and that is why he wrote his book. To be honest he is not the first person to do so either! Check out the history of the King James Bible, edited by men many centuries after the last people who knew Christ died.

If we wish to push this even further, all of our protestant faiths come out of the Catholic Churchs ( there are several different ones). But the Catholic Church as a whole did not accept Christ's divinity until its meeting in Nicine, where they EDITED the bible.
---cthorn on 7/4/08


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Thomas Jefferson re-wrote the NT and it was called the Jefferson Bible.

It deleted everything to do with the Deity of Christ, the Virgin Birth, the Blood, redemption through the Cross, etc.

He came up with a MORAL book ONLY....just the MORAL teachings of Jesus.
---kathr4453 on 7/3/08


I love Thomas Jefferson, he was very wise and along with James Adams crucial for the development of the freedom we have today. However, Jefferson was more importantly a deist and could not accept that Jesus performed miracles. From what I remember the Jefferson bible is the the same as the NT minus anything that was impossible for an ordinary man.

I wouldn't read it. Seems pointless if you accept that point of view.
---Aaron on 7/2/08


In order to judge a person who adds or subtracts from the Holy Bible. We can look to Revelation 22:18-19
18"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"

19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Now we have the word of God to help us judge .
---Mima on 7/2/08


I am happy to have copies of the original Greek scriptures, and that they can also be obtained on the market, and I am equally glad not to have copies of any new testaments from jefferson.
---Eloy on 7/1/08


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Did he?
How did he change it?
---alan_of_UK on 7/1/08


Jefferson simply wrote a book about religion including some of his favorite scriptures, it was never intended it as a substitute for the Bible. Jefferson as President attended the largest Church service in Washington DC which was held the the in the chambers of the House of Representatives. He was dissatisfied with music there and had the Marine Corp Band provide music for the services. So Jefferson's sentiments in a letter to a single Baptist congregation have been greatly over execrated.
---notlaw99 on 9/3/07


This MM is not me. Jefferson is a hero, but so is C Darrow, and Sinclair Lewis, not C S Lewis.
---MikeM on 8/17/07


---Darlene_1: You've accuately discribed what Jefferson did to the NT. As for your other comments I respect your opinion. As others have pointed out Jefferson was a Diest believing that God was no longer involved in the operations of the world. He was spiritually dead wrong.
---Gilbert on 8/16/07


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So what is new?
Most individuals would rewrite it if they could.

TJ was a wonderful man who came out of a terrible time and struggled greatly with the Bible and what he saw as the practice of religion and the enormous damage done.
Remember the reformation and religious wars death to heretics was a fact of his life.

It seems to me he was trying to make sense of God and the church he knew.
---Andrea on 8/16/07


So what is new?
Most individuals would rewrite it if they could.

TJ was a wonderful man who came out of a terrible time and struggled greatly with the Bible and what he saw as the practice of religion and the enormous damage done.
Remember the reformation and religious wars death to heretics was a fact of his life.

It seems to me he was trying to make sense of God and the church he knew.
---Andrea on 8/16/07


Jefferson mutilated the New Testament not rewrote it. He took out all which shows the Supernatural, and watered Christ's ministry down until it makes him a mere man of good character without the truth of Christ's Divinity. Like many denominations do by not teaching the move of the Holy Ghost and his work,Jefferson removed Christ's miracles,resurection,even virgin birth and made him JUST a mortal who taught morality. I would say he was an antichrist who denied Christ's true message of NT salvation.
---Darlene_1 on 8/16/07


"Summary of Religious Views:
Jefferson considered himself a deist, he also considered himself a follower of Jesus. This is not a contradiction, in Jefferson's view, BECAUSE HE BELIEVED JESUS TO BE HUMAN MERELY, NOT DIVINE, and believed the precepts Jesus taught to be deistical."
---Gail on 8/15/07
---Mima on 8/16/07


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Before the age of the internet, churches preached that they wanted to return to the faith of the our founding fathers. They spoke of God, the creator, etc. found in the early US documents and letters. Now I find it strange that Washington, Paine, Franklin, Jefferson, and many others like Lincoln, did not share the Christian views like we were taught. In fact many, by your definitions are now in hell. Think about it, freedom of religion started with nonbelievers.
---yoshin on 8/16/07


Why does anyone rewrite scriptures? They are deceived by the enemy to play with God's Word.

I suggest you try researching it if you are seriously interested. Google it. Go to the library and read his writings. Study him.
---Trish9863 on 8/15/07


Because he leaned towards atheism. like you are.
---Gail on 8/15/07


Yes, MM,
Jefferson held many clearly Christian, Deist, and Unitarian beliefs, but was not a member of any congregation or denomination. Today, many Unitarians sincerely believe that Jefferson should be "counted as" a Unitarian, just as many Christians point to Jefferson as a Christian, and many of the small number of Americans who identify themselves as Deists believe Jefferson should be classified a Deist.
---Gail on 8/15/07


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MM, are you moving away from mormonism now and further towards atheism?

Adherents of other religious groups, including atheists and agnostics, also point to various writings of Jefferson which are in harmony with their positions. The difficulty in classifying Jefferson using a single word for religious affiliation does not stem from a lack of information, but rather a wealth of writing --
---Gail on 8/15/07


which can be interpreted differently depending on a person's perspective. Jefferson left a considerable amount of writing on political and philosophical issues, as well as writing about religion, including the "Jefferson Bible."
---MM on 8/15/07


But you knew all of that MM. Have you found some accountability partners help you make the transition over to atheism, yet? It is all the raging inferno.


Religious Affiliation: None
Summary of Religious Views:
Jefferson considered himself a deist, he also considered himself a follower of Jesus. This is not a contradiction, in Jefferson's view, because he believed Jesus to be merely human, not divine, and believed the precepts Jesus taught to be deistical.
---Gail on 8/15/07


Much of traditional Christianity, Jefferson claimed, was error and corruption added by later followers of Jesus.

Jefferson was a strong supporter of the separation of church and state, believing that both government and religion would be strengthened by keeping each free of the corrupting influence of the other.
---Gail on 8/15/07


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Much of traditional Christianity, Jefferson claimed, was error and corruption added by later followers of Jesus.

But who really cares about Thomas Jefferson's version of the bible. It's Apostate, are you?
---Gail on 8/15/07


YaOcean, who really gives a rip?
You'll have to go back the atheist sites you've told us you visit and defend it there.
Do you ever spend time with your family, or all of your time obsessed with religion, and being mad. Mad as a hatter and mad.
---Kelly on 8/15/07


So that MMills could follow it, worship it and make it his life's mission to make the rest of us believe in it.
---Kelly on 8/15/07


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