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Tongues Needed For Salvation

Will anyone that believes tongues are nessesary for salvation please explain why?

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Andrea,
Actually there are plenty of scriptures. You just ignore them. Big difference.
---James on 10/12/07


Jody, this would mean the apostles were not saved between the time Jesus died and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Tongues are not needed for salvation. I agree, but tongues is the initial sign of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. The apostles were saved from even before Jesus died but they didn't receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit until Pentecost.
---Matthew_from_LA on 10/12/07


2)
Please read Acts 19:2-6. Take special note to verse 2.

"He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost."

Also note Paul layed hands on thenm to give them the Holy Spirit. We know salvation can't be iniated by Paul. These men were already believers.
---Matthew_from_LA on 10/12/07


I believe that tongues are a gift of the Spirit and are a prayer language that can be interpreted by some. The debate regarding the need to spead in tongues for the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is untrue since the Spirit indwells the Believer at the Moment of salvation or there would be no Salvation. The pentecost tongues were actually understood by the many from various languages and are not the same as we see today since we do not have those types of gatherings.I sing alone in tongues
---jody on 10/12/07


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---Andrea on 10/12/07




hi
I dont believe that speaking in tongues are necessary for salvation, the free gift of salvation was giving to us upon receiveng Jesus as Lord and saviour into our lives.The gift of tongues are available to all by the Holy Spirit for edification. We will not know what we (or others) are saying because the gift of tongues is actually the Holy Spirit interceding on our behalf to our Lord when we dont know what to pray or when He (Holy Spirit) feels the need to intercede to God on our behalf.
---Cherry on 10/12/07


I hold you to the standards of the Bible and you have yet to meet someone who speaks in tongues that who meets those standards.
---James on 10/11/07

James...I have yet to meet ANYONE who is perfect as the standards of the Bible require. If you have, then I guess you have died and gone on to meet Jesus because ONLY He is perfect.
---Holly4jc on 10/12/07


There is absolutely no scriptural evidence to support the doctrine of cessationalists. The Gift is the Holy Spirit the evidence is tongues. If you follow the Lord and desire Him you will desire His gifts. All you need to do is ask!
---Andrea on 10/11/07


2) 2 Cor 2:15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:19
For it is written: I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
---Holly4jc on 10/11/07


AMEN Duane! The Bible was written for all believers, those of days gone by, current believers and future believers and the gifts as well as speaking in tongues are for all who desire it and are open to receiving them from God. If you do not want them and refuse to receive them, well then, God won't force them on you. You have to believe and have faith that God wants to give them to you. Without faith, it is impossible to please God.
---Holly4jc on 10/11/07




Well James...I am not worried at all...the Bible is my plumb-line and standard for everything and as I read, the Holy Spirit teaches me and guides me into all truth. I have been baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit and He gives me revelation of the scriptures as I read them and seek God.

1 Corinthians 2:13
These things we also speak, not in words which mans wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
---Holly4jc on 10/11/07


1) 2 Cor 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which mans wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
---Holly4jc on 10/11/07


I would ask eveyone to read 1COR 12:10-11(spiritual gifts) & The Whole 14th ch. on Speaking in tongues...
The Word of God IS real clear on this matter!
---Duane_m on 10/11/07


Holly,
First of all I, as I have stated before, I am non-denominational. Denominations are from man and not from God. Second, it's not MY standards that you should be worried about. I hold you to the standards of the Bible and you have yet to meet someone who speaks in tongues that who meets those standards.
---James on 10/11/07


Those of you that keep referring to Christ as the "perfection" referenced in 1 Corinthians need to do a little more reading. The original Greek word used for "perfection" was gender neutre. In the Greek language NO person (especially Christ) was referred to in that way. The only things that are referred to in that gender are INANIMATE OBJECTS. So the "perfection" does not refer to Christ it refers to the Bible being complete.
---James on 10/11/07


If you read some of the post here you will see that those who do not speak in tongues offer the most fervent(dead sure right) knowledge concerning tongues. Perhaps we should all look at our own statements.
---Mima on 10/11/07


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James...you must be of the Baptist persuation.
---Holly4jc on 10/10/07


I GUARANTEE you that if you give me three people who speak in tongues I can debunk every single one of them. NO ONE who has claimed to me to be able to speak in tongues has confirmed their claim. NO ONE.
---James on 10/10/07

Well James...in the famous words of Mel Brooks..."it's good to be King"...huh? And what are YOUR PERSONAL standards you've created for determining if the tongues are man-made or from God? It's really a big responsibility to play God. I'd be very cautious.
---Holly4jc on 10/10/07


1Cr 13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease, where there are tongues, they will be stilled, where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

1Cr 13:9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part,

1Cr 13:10 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.

Sorry James but what you claim is false, just get over it and forgive them.
---Andrea on 10/10/07


Holly,
You keep saying that if I were to speak in tongues then I would receive God's revelation. That is borderline HERETICAL. ALL OF GOD'S revelation was revealed with the completion of the New Testament. To claim otherwise is a lie. There is NO NEED for tongues. The SCRIPTURES ARE COMPLETE. There is NO FURTHER REVELATION. You DOUBT GOD'S WORD when you claim that you are receiving special revelation.
---James on 10/10/07


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By the way, I never said people don't speak in tongues today. I said the GIFT ceased. People speak in tongues all the time but it is from man not from God. I GUARANTEE you that if you give me three people who speak in tongues I can debunk every single one of them. NO ONE who has claimed to me to be able to speak in tongues has confirmed their claim. NO ONE.
---James on 10/10/07


Caleb,
Denominations are man made, not from God. Second of all you're right, it doesn't say "HAVE CEASED" it says "WILL CEASE". If you read that whole verse you will see that it does not say ALL knowledge will cease. It says PARTIAL KNOWLEDGE and PARTIAL PROPHECY would disappear when the perfect comes. To claim we would have knowledge on earth but not in heaven is absurd.
---James on 10/10/07


I keep seeing people claim that "all knowledge" will disappear when "perfection comes". If that is so then why does Paul state in 1 Cor 13:12 ". Now I know in part, then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known." You can't claim on one hand that when Christ comes all knowledge will disappear and then claim on the other that when Christ comes I will have all knowledge. So which is it?
---James on 10/10/07


James - there are millions of people on there way to hell who claim to know the scriptures. You seem to have your own version of the bible, one that doesn't include the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

What denomination are you?

There is not one scripture that says the gifts of the Holy Spirit have ceased. It is a man-assumption.
Please don't tell me 1Cor 13 bc knowledge would have to have passed away too.
---caleb on 10/10/07


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Andrea,
You still have it wrong. "Tongues" was not given to us so that we could speak to Jesus. It was given as a miraculous sign to confirm God's word to the unbelievers. This idea that ALL people have the ability to speak in tongues if they so choose is UNBIBLICAL. Paul states that speaking in tongues only edifies the individual. It doesn't edify the Church. And why would I NEED to speak to God in another tongue when he can understand MY tongue just fine?
---James on 10/10/07


Holly,
I don't know about you, but "my religion" as you so called it, uses the Bible to back up it's claims. You have not yet ONCE used any scriptures to support your argument. All you have done is repeated the same thing over and over again while IGNORING scriptures I have presented. The disciples "heard" in their own language because the speakers were "speaking" in their language. Do you deny that scripture?
---James on 10/10/07


The scriptures do say that "tongues shall cease" 1 Cor 13:8.
Bless all of you,
---trey on 10/9/07

Yes tongues will cease along with knowledge and prophecy

when that which is perfect comes....When Jesus returns we will have no need of speaking in the Spirit - we will speak to Him face to face
go to layhands if you desire a sincere teaching
---Andrea on 10/10/07


1) Funny James because just about everyone I know is Baptized in the Holy Spirit and speaks in tongues...no ceasing of that (as you claim) in any of the churches I've been to from the East coast to the West coast of the US. I never said that tongues are required for salvation...the Bible does not teach that, but you can receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues if you desire to, you just need to ask God. You have not because you ask not.
---Holly4jc on 10/10/07


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2) However I do stand on what I have read and what God has shown me via the Holy Spirit about them "hearing" in their own language. I have read and I have prayed and I am convinced, not because of what man says, but because of what God says via His Holy Spirit. You seem not to have an open mind on this subject since you have the mind-set that tongues no longer exist and neither do the gifts, so you cannot see or accept anything past that. It is what your religion teaches,
---Holly4jc on 10/10/07


3) not what the Bible teaches. Satan loves nothing more than to convince the church that they have no power and that the gifts of the Spirit are no longer for today..it keeps the church aka believers powerless and unable to conduct proper spiritual warfare. May God open your heart to receive His revelation and all that He has and wants to give to you, far past what man's teachings have limited you to.
---Holly4jc on 10/10/07


Tongues are for a sign to those that don't believe so they would believe that this was of God. (1 Cor 14:22). It was for sign to the devout Jews on the day of Pentecost so that they would know that Christianity is the WAY.

Speaking in tongues was also a sign for the Jews again in Acts 10:46. The Gentiles spoke in tongues BEFORE they were baptized for a sign again to the unbelieving Jews.

The scriptures do say that "tongues shall cease" 1 Cor 13:8.

Bless all of you,
---trey on 10/9/07


The false teaching that goes with that belief is that one is not saved if the Holy Ghost does not indwell the person.That makes sense but then they say that the EVIDENCE of the Holy Ghost's indwelling is speaking in tongues. So if a person does not speak in tongues when they learn of Jesus and accept Him as Lord and Savior and repent of their sins, if they do not speak in tongues, they are not saved at that juncture. They have yet to be saved yet the congregation will encourage the person to keep trying.
---larry9688 on 10/9/07


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Tongues are not essential for salvation, they are for edification and exhortation.Some don't believe in them, mainly because their denomination teaches against them, and because they choose to not press into the spirit to receive them.
---Gayla on 10/9/07


Holly,
You are still wrong. Your pastors opinions are irrelevant. You don't have to be a pastor to know how to read. I know what the Bible says and what it DOESN'T say. You ignore the rest of that verse and the rest of the scriptures. Even if speaking in tongues WERE available today, which they are not, it has NOTHING to do with salvation. NOTHING. Just admit that you cherry pick scriptures ( just like it was foretold) to suit your "itching ears".
---James on 10/9/07


Another interesting redemptive nugget regarding Pentecost:

50 days after the Lamb was sacrificed in the OT and the children went out of Egypt, they came to Mount Sinai. The law was written on tablets of stones and 3,000 people died. Fifty days after Jesus rose from the dead, there were a people gathered in the upper room, the Spirit of God came like a mighty rushing wind, the gospel was preached, and 3,000 people were saved.

The letter kills but the Spirit gives life.
---Linda on 10/9/07


Gilbert there is no one "not one" person on these blogs has said you are not saved if you don't speak in tongues.

again not once

I keep hearing that and only one denomination that I know of teaches that, so I think that is an excuse to not bother doing the research and deciding if you want this particular gift from God
---Andrea on 10/9/07


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The tower of babal confused tongues

the day of Pentecost restored them
---caleb on 10/9/07


I read an interesting perspective on tongs last week. At the tower of Babel men's language was confused. At Pentacost language stopped being the point and God's message was clearly understood. It was an escatalogical event a simble of unifying God's people. It seems strang that tongs that were symbol of Spirit Unity now devide us. "You aren't save w/o having them" etc.
---Gilbert on 10/9/07


Gilbert IF you want to know what happens in a Pentecostal gathering - go. They're open - use discretion and stick with the ones that believe in the trinity. Assy God or non-denominational. You'll see they are very orderly and I've never seen it to be anything but edifying.
It is well worth the effort to at least do the research - instead of relying on men who say its in the bible but its not for you.....?????? then why is it in the bible?
truthortradition
layhands....both good teachings
---Andrea on 10/9/07


Holly, God used me in Gift of tongues and interepretation of tongues , a person doesn't hear the interpretation,it's dropped into the spirit ,I know sometimes its only a word or two comes to mind and I open my mouth and the Holy Ghost says all the rest. I could stop my ears up so I couldn't hear and still the Holy Ghost would give interpretation through me. If hearing,soon as tongues given the person would undestand what is said,doesn't work like that,must wait for HG to give interpretation. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 10/9/07


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Sorry James...Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. The gifts did not cease, salvation is still needed by many and the power of the Holy Spirit needed now more than ever. And the emphasis was on HEARING. Not only have I sought God on this, but I also spoke to my pastors about this last night and they agree with me on both points.
---Holly4jc on 10/9/07


And James....is not the "interpretation" of tongues one of the gifts of the Spirit? When God gives someone the interpretation of tongues, the person getting the interpretation HEARS the interpretation in HIS or HER own language in order to understand what has been said. That's biblical. If you speak English, God is not going to give you an interpretation in Chinese, it will be IN ENGLISH, so you can UNDERSTAND what was said,
---Holly4jc on 10/9/07


2) unless of course you were ministering to Chinese people and He wanted you to share the message with them in THEIR language. No, you will HEAR it in your own language. But of course, if you do not believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, then the whole point is mute.
---Holly4jc on 10/9/07


Holly,
Here is the problem. You take on scripture and base your whole position on it and you ignore the rest of the scripture. I focus on "speaking" because that is EXACTLY what the Bible says. On the Day of Pentecost they were absolutely NOT speaking in the tongues of Angels. The Bible SPECIFICALLY defines WHY the spiritual gifts were given. THOSE REASONS ARE NOW GONE. PERIOD.
---James on 10/9/07


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Paul states in 1 Corinthians 14:22 that speaking is a sign for UNBELIEVERS, not believers. He also states that where someone speaks in tongues there MUST be an interpreter. I have YET to find ONE person who claims they can speak in tongues and have more than one person verify the claim by offering the SAME interpretation. In 1 Corinthians 13 Paul was using HYPERBOLE to make a point about love, not about the language of the angels.
---James on 10/9/07


James...you are placing the emphasis on SPEAKING whereas God has shown me the emphasis is on HEARD.
---Holly4jc on 10/8/07


1) Darlene...I did pray and seek God about this many years ago. I had heard a sermon by a well known pastor who said that the tongues that were spoken were of a language already known on earth and not an unknown language and that's why everyone understood what was being said. I was wanting to know the truth on this and I went home and kneeled down and prayed and sought God...God told me to read 1 Corinthians 13...where it says there are tongues of angels..not just of other languages.
---Holly4jc on 10/8/07


2) This pastor was saying that all tongues are always of other languages already known on earth. I'm sorry, but God continuously shows me that they HEARD their languages spoken...not that the speakers were necessarily speaking their language. Now I do know and believe that God CAN and DOES enable people to speak in known languages from around the earth even if they have not studied them.
---Holly4jc on 10/8/07


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3) So then, why does everyone have such a hard time with this concept of God translatting what you are hearing into your own language? If God can make people speak in another language, surely He can have you hear things in your language.
---Holly4jc on 10/8/07


Most believers in the Baptism of the Holy Spirit know that praying in tongues is not necessary for salvation. That's UPC Oneness and other splinter, fringe groups follow that edict. That's not true.
The other extreme is to deny that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is biblical, that it ceased in the Book of Acts. That's a form of godliness but denying the power of the Holy Spirit.

MMR
---Michelle on 10/8/07


I've heard of relatively few testimonies of people receiving the Holy Spirit baptism without wanting or believing in it. But there are Damascus road cases and lives are completely transformed.
Generally, a stiffnecked nature does not have to worry about ever speaking in another tongue or holding an office of a prophet, or other gifts of the Holy Spirit.
Fruits are different from the gifts.

MMR
---Michelle on 10/8/07


Oneness believer's claim to hold the office of a prophet, believing Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit are the same Person of triune Godhead. Don't force me to attend one of those churches. The bible says let no one lay hands on you suddenly. I wouldn't want them laying their hands on me. A form of godliness but denying the power of the Holy Spirit and Who HE IS.
Those who prophesy in His Name, but deny God's Holy Spirit, would those be counterfeit prophecies?

MMR
---Michelle on 10/8/07


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Andrea,
Well, most of the accounts of tongs in the the Bible seem to be human tongs. Then there is 1Cor.13 mentioning men & angels. However, it is always a HS initiated event, that involves intrupritation. I've seen this happen once. All the other times I've seen it it's was man initiated giberish, that didn't honor God. Also, regarding PPL I know many Godly people who claim that I and I have no reason to dispute them.
---Gilbert on 10/8/07


Holly4jc,here's another verse which is concerning tongues. 1 Cor.13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels,and have not charity,I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. Possible to speak with mans language or angels languages. Holly I can tell you from experience it is languages,HG through me has spoken, that was reconizable, American Indian, Polynesian,and Hebrew. There's over 5000 living languages, and if we don't know them all we can't say tongues isn't a language.
---Darlene_1 on 10/8/07


Holly,
You are using a practice known commonly in Christianity known as TWISTING SCRIPTURES. Acts 2:6-8: "6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language. 7 Utterly amazed, they asked: "Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans? 8 Then how is it that each of us hears them in his own native language?" They heard them in their own languages because they were SPEAKING in their own languages.
---James on 10/8/07


james - I went back and looked at your statements and your very interested the Baptism of the Holy spirit but you need to go to another source. You said that the infilling came with water baptism???? no. Just the opposite were Paul found the gentiles had been 'speaking in tongues already (this is how he knew they were saved) so he said there is no reason that they shouldn't then be water baptized. I urge you to go to a few different resources bc some denominations have an agenda. I suspect yours does.
---caleb on 10/7/07


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Holly4jc,please really study this in depth and pray God will show you His truth. It doesn't matter what any of us say the bottom line is that what God meant for us to believe. You have so many really good responses on so many things Holly,I care, please be careful. Consider this,when a new idea on an old concept is so totally opposite, it usually doesn't hold up. The Bible says there is nothing new under the sun,that includes Bible interpretation too. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 10/7/07


Yes...they spoke with other tongues...I totally agree...but with a heavenly language and those who HEARD it understood it in their OWN language.
---Holly4jc on 10/7/07


Acts 2:4,look at all, not only says spoke with other tongues but as Spirit gave utterance. Utterance is verbal manisfestation, Strongs 669 to speak out or forth, and other tongues means other language, (tongues)Strongs 1100 the language or dialect used by a particular people distinct from that of other nations,confirms it. Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them,the Holy Ghost came on them and they spake with tongues and prophesied. Tongues and Prophesy both verbal gifts. Not hearing gift.
---Darlene_1 on 10/7/07


1) Mima: You are absolutely correct in your assessment. That's exactly what God's been showing me all along. In ACTS, the emphasis is on what was being HEARD, not that all were speaking in the hearing person's language. God gave the person HEARING the ability to understand in their own language, not that those speaking were speaking in the person who was hearing's language. Like if I was speaking Spanish and a French person came along and God enabled the French person to hear and understand everything...
---Holly4jc on 10/7/07


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2) ...I was saying AS IF it was being spoken in French, although it was still being spoken in Spanish. The miracle was in God giving the understanding to all that were there in their own languages. Yet I've heard so many teachings that say the opposite. But Mima...you hit the nail on the head. Not many dare to skate on thin ice, because it is dangerous and the multitude fear being out there and they think those who are out there are nuts! Just as Peter appeared nuts to even attempt to walk on water!
---Holly4jc on 10/7/07


Every man heard them in their own language, it actually does not say that the languages were spoken but that they were heard as their own. Maybe God anointed their ears????

Act 2:6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard them speaking in his own language.

Act 2:7 Utterly amazed, they asked: Are not all these men who are speaking Galileans?

Act 2:8 Then how is it that each of us hears them in his own native language?
---caleb on 10/7/07


#-1-first let me say that I know I'm on very thin ice here. And the reason I make an outlandish statement like this is because of personal experience I had in China. The story is very long but in essence it says, a person listening to someone talk had the experience of hearing a different language than was being spoken. Not only did this take place but salvations resulted from this exchange of hearing.
---Mima on 10/7/07


Mima - Acts 2:4 says "And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance". You cannot change this to say they did not speak in other languages. This verse is clear that "other tongues" is other languages.
---Helen_5378 on 10/6/07


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Mima,
You really need to check the vast number of resources available before you make such claims. If you look up the word "tongues" in the Greek lexicon you will find that the use of that word specifically means "languages" so the statement you made earlier about the Bible not stating that they spoke in different languages is false.
---James on 10/5/07


Darlene, you are correct.

I remember when I use to believe everything I heard people say which was indeed very dangerous.

I am now happy to say that I no longer take what is written in 2 Timothy 2:14-19 as being an option, I now take it as being a command.

I also know follow the example found is Acts 17:11.

In doing this, it has openned my eyes to many lies that are going around the world today, and they are being told in the name of Jesus.
---Rob on 10/4/07


Darlen You are quite right
Yet those same denominations accuse the Roman church of having man-made "traditions" snd doctrines.
But they are as bad themselves!
---alan_of_UK on 10/4/07


Alan,ha ha, I didn't mean the gender "men",although in most church denominations it fits,I was talking about the governing body of churches which could be Elders,Deacons,Priests,etc.. All denominations have bylaws,edicts,rules,whatever you want to call them but many were decided by a group of "old men" based more on their beliefs sometimes than on the Bible. People seem to accept whats handed down without question and that can be dangerous by drawing away from the facts of the Bible.
---Darlene_1 on 10/4/07


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Darlene ... You say "Think about it,there are errors in all denominations which happened when men set rules for members"
I know you did not mean it, but indeed, it would of course be very different if women helped in setting the rules!
Perhaps not VERY different, but I am sure the addition of their wisdom would help make things more sensible.
---alan_of_UK on 10/4/07


UPC believes in the Oneness doctrine. But not all Oneness churches are UPC, there are many offshoots and fringe groups that believe in Oneness theology. I do not.
The evidence of speaking in tongues is not God's plan of salvation.
Then you find the other extreme, those who reject all the gifts of the Holy Spirit and claim that they ceased after the Book of Acts.

Michelle. MMR
---Michelle on 10/4/07


Mima: Nor did the Bible say it is GIBBERISH NONSENSE: tongues or languages are the same thing to me..without a tongue, you have no speech and no language..different tongues means different languages..some at the upper room were understood by some standing by who accused them as drunk in the morning..gibberish is nonsensical and such idiosy to say its a language or tongue..God is a God of order, not of gibberish..
---jana on 10/4/07


Andrea,thank you, I wasn't offended, we can't be expected to know what we haven't been exposed to. I hesitate to label any denomination a cult we don't know peoples hearts and it isn't the denomination which saves a person but their personal relationship with God. Think about it,there are errors in all denominations which happened when men set rules for members. If a person believes,repents,lives for God and by his Word they will be saved. The world always labeled people its a shame the church does now.
---Darlene_1 on 10/3/07


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Sorry - I thought UP and Oneness were the same.
I'll have to go do some research, I really am starting to hate looking at all the cults - it is so depressing to think they are so close and choose denominations instead of Christ.
Its been good for me - I can see that it matters less about which denomination your in and more if it matters to you what your denomination is.
If a person can't be happy to be 'just' a christian they may not be at all.
---Andrea on 10/3/07


Andrea,just for information,It isn't all "Oneness" who believe you need the Baptism of the Holy Ghost,with tongues, to be saved. There are 1/2 billion Pentecostals,2nd largest denomination, in the world,and I've been Pentecost all my life, the only ones I have heard of that believe like that are the United Pentecostals. I noticed that it is common practice to lump all branches of a denomination together,but most oneness believe salvation comes with belief in Christ and repentence from sin.
---Darlene_1 on 10/3/07


Consider this observation. Acts 2:8 reads,"And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?" At no time or any place does the Bible say these people speaking in tongues were speaking different languages. What in fact it says is that the hearers heard the speakers in their own tongues. I do not believe they were speaking different languages, but I do believe the hearers were hearing different languages. This phenomenon happen in China.
---Mima on 10/3/07


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