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Are There Prophets Today

There are some people that call themselves a Prophet and a Prophetess and are they?

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The double -edged sword of the Word includes both logos and rhema- what is written on the page for us and that which operates through us by the Holy Spirit. The sword discerns the heart. It can either cut you to shreds, or be used to determine good from evil for our benefit. If your heart isn't right with God, He determines the oucome for you.
---Aggie on 10/30/07

Yes. See Acts 13:1 and Acts 15:32 for 4 in the NT which confirms that on this side of the Cross there are prophets. I am one. Primarily, we are jealous guardians of the Word.
---Kirk on 10/30/07 did my name get dragged into your comment?
---Holly4jc on 10/30/07

And also Amanda...God has used me many, many times to not only give a prophetic word to individuals, but also to the church, ministries and the region. I totally believe in the prophetic and ALL the gifts.
---Holly4jc on 10/30/07

To Holly, and those who are of the persuasion: " the New Testament is closed" UH... IF you have confessed Christ,YOU ARE the new testament!!! Ephesians 4:11-13 tells us the answer to this entire debate. Our opinions have nothing to do with the truth. It is in black and white, unless, I guess you serve a dead and lifeless form of Godliness. God and Saviour is "alive and His word is active as a two edged sword"...
---Amanda on 10/30/07

Also, no, prophets do not only fortell. The forth-tell. That is, if you were given a scripture to share with someone,they needed it. The Word is living and active, on the page and in your mouth. God has not changed, He is still speaking. His words never contradict what is the scripture. They confirm. He is personal, near, not distant. Why not ask Him this question, wait upon Him for the answer? If you have ears to hear, you will, He promises that.
---Amanda on 10/30/07

I used to think I was a prophet because God told me to tell somebody something, but it was not anything prophetic, rather it was a repeat of God's word. For example, if God told you "Tell that person "man's wisdom is foolishness to God, says the Lord." This is not prophecy. Is God speaking? Yes, but it is still not prophecy. The gift of prophecy involves God telling you about a future event.
---Matthew_from_LA on 10/12/07

This is important, because many think they are a prophet when they are told by God to tell someone what God told them. We must understand the difference.
---Matthew_from_LA on 10/12/07

God does not give gifts to manipulate and control the Church. Gifts are for leading and serving the Church.

Remember the last thing that Jesus Christ ever did before He went to the cross was wash the feet of the disciples.
If you're using your title to bring attention to yourself or to your name, Jesus showed us how to be a servant to all and a slave to none.

---Michelle on 10/12/07

Any individual that is lording their title over the Body of Christ will be operating in an almost cult-like manner - demanding respect and taking authority where it is not due them. Authority comes from God, respect only comes by God.
Through intimidation and fear, "titles" are saying, "Don't even question my authority."
This is manipulation and control.

---Michelle on 10/12/07

Today, it is very important to have a title.
I am an apostle.
I am a prophet.
As if it is so important to be labeled.

I believe God wants to raise up people who will not only have titles, but have the power of that office.
There are those that function only in title, but not in power.
An individual doesn't need to constantly tell others of his title or ministry gift.

As with all ministry gifts, you will know them by their fruits and not by their gifts, or titles.

---Michelle on 10/12/07

unbelievably choosey....hmmmm
Peter, Judas, think He uses the weaker vessels to prove Himself. We get in the way if we're to strong.
---caleb on 10/8/07


lol.first my poor sentence quality it to throw off those who think way to highly of them selves(of course you would be confused) lololol secondly what have you studied on luther? personally I have read 90% of his writings (english of course german is a rough language to learn). thirdly why can you personally bash us "fundies" and be insulted when the tables are turned? lol I await your reply with bated breath lol
---willow on 10/8/07

I have news for you. God is so choosey, unbelievably choosey whom He puts in the ministry. Prophets are a different breed and very few in numbers. Be careful. We are not educated, we love God, We aim to please God, We depend on God 100%. +++
---catherine on 10/8/07

Willow I like the way you write and clear easy to follow
---caleb on 10/8/07

willow, quite simple. Your questions are hard to discern due to poor sentence structure and secondly you are unfailingly insulting. You KNOW nothing of what I know about Luther yet you preach your opinion based on zero anyway.
---alexia on 10/8/07

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alexia what is a fundie? since you hate luther and I dare say you have never really read anything about him not tainted you with RCC hatred so you really have no say in the matter!
Also not suiprizing
you have failed to answer 2 questions in other blogs why?
are you afraid?
---willow on 10/7/07

correct. I never heard of the word sola scriptura until I came here. Its a fundie invention from Luther. Sola scripture does mean everything in God's revelation is contained in teh bible. therefore nothing outside the bible can EVER command any authority or it violates sola scriptura. Their idea not mine.
---alexia on 10/6/07

Luther preferred his interpretation of the bible to the Church's, so he invented sola scriptura, not ever a catholic belief, and removed the books from the bible which didn't conform to his new definition of predestination. He hated James because he didnt want works in his theology.
---alexia on 10/6/07

most of the fundies here believe in sola scripture, although they separate it from Luther, who started it, because they can't follow the works of man and Luther would be outside scripture obviously. Now they all claim they figured it out still arent sure what Romans mean, but these unchurched know everything
---alexia on 10/6/07

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to Alexia, I must confess my ignorance. I'm still trying to figure out what Sola Sciptura means. Sound kinda like Latin to me. I'm thinking by the context of your statements it might mean 'the written Word is God's final authority on all matters'. It that's what it means then I agree whole-heartedly. It that is what those two words mean, why not just say it in plain words.You know. Like Paul said. Plain words easy to be understood.Help my understanding please.
---jack8937 on 10/5/07

Hi Trey, You are a man of your word. You said you'd check it out and you did. Not everyone is as interested in Prophecy as we are. Don't want to tie up this blog with things that are seemingly not important. 1st.let me say that it doesn't matter one iota what you or I believe. All things will come to pass exactly as God said it would.We are both human and subject to being mistaken.cont'd
---jack8937 on 10/5/07

for Trey cont'd, You are also right about one other thing.I don't agree with 'YOUR INTERPRETATION'. But that's okay. As far as your saying it was 'your interpretation' I will say that I heard this same teaching over 40 years ago by WWchurch of God,SDA or both. Verse 9 says they would't allow 'their' dead 'bodies'(both plural) be put in graves. I think Jesus was buried but I could be wrong about that also.I have been wrong before.Love brother.God bless.
---jack8937 on 10/5/07

Mark V,

"First of all I said the offices of Apostles and prophets ceased at the completion of the New Testament."

Where is this biblical that this has occurred? Or where do you ascertain this?
---denna7667 on 10/5/07

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Mark V. The Office of the Prophet is just as alive and well today as it was during the days of New Testament. This is like telling every one reading this blog that the Holy Spirit is dead and without any power to speak to His Church.
---Whisper on 10/5/07

Jack, you asked me the question and I will answer as I know how from Scripture in context for which the two witnesses are mentioned. First of all I said the offices of Apostles and prophets ceased at the completion of the New Testament. We are now in the age of the Covenant of Grace. Next comes what is to come. This passages are futuristic. See v. 7:9, "a great multitude" While the tribulation period will be a time of judgment
---Mark_V. on 10/5/07

#2. It will also be a time of unprecedented redemption (v.14, 6:9-11, 20:4, Matt. 24:4). As John continues what will happen during that time comes verse 11:3. "Two witnesses) The Old Testament required two or more witnesses to confirm testimony, (Deut. 17:6, 19:15, Matt. 18:16, John 8:17, Heb. 20:28). This two individuals will be granted special powers with the authority of God to preach a message of judgment and salvation during that time period, the second half of the tribulation.
---Mark_V. on 10/5/07

Im not trying to hold on to two opposing views. You guys are. I'm just waiting for an explanation. Both can't be true. Either sola scriptura is or it isn't. You can't have both.
---alexia on 10/5/07

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#3. While we cannot be dogmatic about the idenity of the two witnesses, several theologians have suggested that they are Moses and Elijah. Like Moses they strike the earth with plagues, and like Elijah, they have the power to keep it from raining. Jewish tradition expected both Moses and Elijah to return in the future. The length of the drought the two witnesses bring (3.5 years v. 6) is the same as that brought by Elijah in James 5:17.
---Mark_V. on 10/5/07

#4. "The olive trees and the two lampstands" Here olive oil was commonly used in lamps, together the olive tress and lampstands symbolize the light of spiritual revival. The two witnesses preaching will spark a revival, just as Joshua's and Zerubbabel's did in Israel after the Babylonian captivity. This two witnesses will focus their work on preaching to the Jewish population and leading to conversion verse 13. When their witnessing is complete,
---Mark_V. on 10/5/07

#5. God will withdraw His supernatural protection. The beast will then be able to accomplish what many had died trying to do. The world will watch, the unbelievers will rejoice and celebrate the witnesses death, the festivities will be short lived because God will vindicate His faithful witnesses by resurrecting them. "They ascend to heaven in a cloud" Those who hated and dishonored the two witnesses will watch their vindication. There will be earthquakes and many will die on that day.
---Mark_V. on 10/5/07


My point is if you say there are no longer prophets then must also say there are no longer as in Ephesians 4:11. Then you must also say there are no longer teachers, evangelist, or pastors.

If you have one office then you have all of them.
---denna7667 on 10/5/07

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I would like to say that in all of history, The office of Prophet or Prophetess has never ceased. If you are a person who is prone to legalism or any doctrinal orientation of a denomination which has often had it's roots planted in error, you are off the path, because your confidence is not in God but man. Acts 2:17-18 says, And it shall come to pass in the LAST DAYS, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy......PART 1
---Whisper on 10/5/07

PART 2.....and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18, And on my servants and on my (woman) handmaidens I will pur out in those days of my Spirit: and they shall PROPHESY:
19, And I will show WONDERS in heaven above, and SIGNS in the earth beneath:blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke. (Today we are beginning to see unprecedented signs)
---Whisper on 10/5/07

Hi Jack,

I told you I would do some study and prayer concerning the two witnesses - Rev. 11:3.

Let us examine some things in the 11th chapter:

Rev.11:3 a thousand two hundred and threescore days = 42 months in vs. 2., and Ch. 12:6 - interesting. All this equals about 3 1/2 years = time of Christ's ministry.
---trey on 10/4/07

Hi Jack,

Rev. 11:4 The two witnesses are two olive trees - olive trees represent the visible/militant church and especially it's ministers(not to be confused with God's universal church consisting of all the elect).Rom. 11:24 & Zech. 4:14.

Rev. 11:4 "two candlesticks" - Rev. 1:20 tells us plainly that the candlestics represent God's true church. Concerning the number "two" - 2nd Cor.13:1 "in the mouth of two or three witnesses".
---trey on 10/4/07

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Hi Jack,

Rev. 11:9 Christ was crucified. The Jewish leaders rejoice.

Rev. 11:9 The dead bodies lie in the streets for three days - simply saying that God's "Law" was trampled under foot.

Rev. 11:11 Christ is raised, we then see the church "come back to life". Once again the Jewish leaders and the Roman leaders are in fear.
---trey on 10/4/07

Hi Jack,

Jack, I'm guessing you won't believe a word of my interpretation. Do you believe that the man child in Rev. 12:5 is Christ, and that the woman in Rev. 12:1 is the church?

Thanks for prompting the study and may the Lord bless you.
---trey on 10/4/07

Michelle .... Who else do you think MikeM is?
I thuink many many months ago, he may have been SLCguy, but I don't think he masquerades umder any other name.
If you have read his posts he is quite honest that he is LDS, or Mormon.
Incidently, you stand to be confused with other Michelles. Why don't you give yourself a distinctive name, to identify yourself fully?
I have done that to distinguish me from other Alans
---alan_of_UK on 10/4/07

whisper, apparently you could not answer the question.

denna, How does that square with sola scriptura? I'm continually told that anything church fathers say, or theologians is by definition mere "words of men" and not scripture. So how can a prophet be today?
---alexia on 10/4/07

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MikeM., why do you need to use so many names to get your point across? I can see you.
I feel sorry for you, Mike.
You can't stand the likes of someone like me. I represent your hatred for all fundamentals. We are your punching bag, your sounding board and your shock absorbers for all of the rough roads you've been down.
But you know what, you're not the only one who's been down a stretch of bad highway. Oh no.

---Michelle on 10/4/07

MikeM., do you belong to the Orthodox church or the Mormon church, which one is it, really?

---Michelle on 10/4/07


If you look inside the Bible then you will have to admit the office of prophet as well as teacher and pastors are still active.

Ephesians 4:11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers,

If you eliminate one then you must eliminate all and we all know that that is not the case.
---denna7667 on 10/4/07

Alexia, No body here is backing themself into any corner. God is the same yesterday today and forever, He has never, ever stopped speaking. Listen to what Gods Spirit is saying today, Not to the Catholic Council, Which has no power to save you, And no athority to even be able to save themself, Your allegiance needs not be to a denomination, but unto a Holy God, and Saviour who still talks to His children.
---Whisper on 10/4/07

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Alexia, When you say, Does any body have the guts to......what exactly are you trying to imply? That we are stupid? Or that you are some kind of Catholic intelligence, we are here to learn and to have decent conversation, this is not the WWE wrestling championship, it is merely a blog to learn. simmer down.
---Whisper on 10/4/07

you guys have argued yourself into a corner. Does anybody have the guts to explain why: a prophet today would be "words of men" outside the bible. Sola scriptura means we can't look outside the bible. So therefore common LOGIC means there cannot be any new prophets since the canon was delivered by God to the catholic council.
---alexia on 10/4/07


If you are a strict adherent to the principle of sola scriptura, perhaps you can show me where the Bible mentions sola scriptura?

It is problematic, because before the Bible was written, there MUST have been spiritual authority granted to the Apostles, saints, etc. that was outside of the written scriptures. And there is no scripture that says that such authority expired "when the canon is complete" (In fact, there is no mention of "canon" at all).
---StrongAxe on 10/4/07

I think we need to be very careful of those who make a point of letting everybody know that they are a prophet/ess. We will know them by their fruit. What comes out of the mouth will tell if they are or not.
---Helen_5378 on 10/4/07

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Jack8937, (#2)

Concerning the fulfillment of the book of the Revelation. I believe it is a prophesy of events leading up to the return of Christ.
Rev. 22:20.

Jack, I am researching the two prophets in Rev. 11:3-6. I will respond to you after I study and pray about it.
---trey on 10/3/07


Concerning John the Baptist, after further study, I believe he was the last prophet in the Law Age.

The Apostle Paul speaks of prophesying in the new testament. In looking at it in context I believe he is speaking of preaching in demonstration of the Spirit and of power. I've seen this with my own eyes, and it is an awesome thing.

Speaking of Christ, he must be considered the Greatest Prophet, Priest, and King. He is God. He is the first (John 8:58).
---trey on 10/3/07

There is a huge difference in a Prophet of God speaking the oracles of God and of having the 'gift of prophecy' for the edification of the church.
---Andrea on 10/3/07

I know of Prophets now who are speaking great things, and are actually happening right infront of our eyes. Not a little bit, but alot, many of you have your eyes closed to what is happening around you forgive me for being firm with you, but all of you need a HUGE WAKE UP CALL.
---Whisper on 10/3/07

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Please accept my most humble apologies...

for only reading half the posts. It appears that no one knows the definition of prophet using the Bible as it's own reference. If Moses was as god to the Pharaoh, what was Aaron to Moses? Exodus4.16, Exodus7.1.

Zechariah 1.6 says that a prophet is a servant of God and speaks forth the words and commands ("statutes") that he or she receives from God.

Aren't many of us servants of God? Spokesmen of God?
---Steveng on 10/3/07

A prophet is not telling the future.

Jonah, a messenger/prophet of God, sent a message to the city of Nineveh - to repent or be destroyed.

John, the Revelator, also sends a message from God to the people of the end times.

A prophet has an unusaully close relationship with God Himself where God directly speaks to the prophet and have him boldly go into the world to send His message.
---Steveng on 10/3/07

for Trey, You made the statement that John the Baptist was the last true PROPHET. I always thought Jesus was the Prophet of all Prophets. Was Jesus NOT sent by God, speaking God's Words? What is your definition of a true 'sent by God' Prophet? Rev 11:10 calls the 2witnesses 'prophets'.Or perhaps you believe the TRIBULATION is already over??If you believe the old & new test.are the two witnesses, I can't wait to see them stand up on their feet.
---jack8937 on 10/3/07

NOPE. I know some who are saying thus saith the Lord and what they are saying isn't lining up with the word of God and isn't coming to pass yet they swear it's from God. I don't believe them. I believe God's word over what they are saying.
---Donna on 10/3/07

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but if there are prophets today that would violate the sola scriptura and would be valuing the "opinions of men". Least everytime I cite ANYONE no matter how revered, I'm told that. Explain?
---alexia on 10/3/07

Here's an example of a prophet that is not speaking for God.
" Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free" (Eph .6 : 8 KJ V ) .

Ellen White:
"God cannot take the slave to heaven. He lets him be as though he had not been"(GC 193 , l958 ed., EW 276)
---Andrea on 10/3/07

Alexia I disagree with you. NOt agree with you. Paul talked about the gift of prophecy and told us to desire it. He mentioned there were prophets around Him and urged them to make sure they take turns when they prophecy he didn't call them false prophets. Their prophecies can't be found in the Bible. DOesn't mean they weren't prophets. Prophecy isn't adding to the word. Prophecy is the "fortelling of a future event."
---Matthew_from_LA on 10/2/07

2) Read Corinthians, were Paul talks about those with the gift of prophecy around Him. He encourages them and even tells others who don't have the gift of prophecy to desire it. Those that have the gift or prophecy around Paul, where are there prophecies? You can't find them.
---Matthew_from_LA on 10/2/07

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If they were false prophets Paul would of condemend and removed them from the Churches. Instead we find Him telling them to speak prophecies in turn in Church. Again, their prophecies are not found in scripture, and if they were false prophets then Paul was wrong and possibly a false teacher. Jesus said "beweare of false prophets", not "beware of all prophets."
---Matthew_from_LA on 10/2/07

cont'd -If you will permit me to paraphrase what I call this KJbackwards English,The prophets up and until John prophesied of the Law.John came not preaching the Law but the Kingdom of God. Jesus seperates prophets of the Law from Prophets of God's Kingdom. Unless the Kingdom of God has passed away then neither has God's need of Prophets.The 2 Witnesses of Rev. 11 will be the last two.The KJV is still the best trans.
---Jack on 10/2/07

thanks Matthew for agreeing with me...any "prophet" today would be heretical as being something man-made because sola scriptura doesnt allow any other source for information but the bible.
---alexia on 10/2/07

By their fruits you know them, you need to be a good fruit tester, I often get a word of knowledge about some people however that does not make me a prophet, I may have some dreams at night that are prophetic, this is a "seer" but I would not say I am a seer, we can all inquire of this "gift" of the Spirit.
---Whisper on 10/2/07

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For Trey, I appreciate the honesty in saying so 'which is it?' KJV can be kinda confusing because their way of speaking then is quite different from now. This original blog question is, are there still prophets today? It does kinda sound like prophets
ceased with the coming of John the Baptist.
Answering this is not that difficult unless attempting to do so in 85 words or less, well, KINDA! Jesus also said elswhere that there was never a prophet greater than John.
---Jack on 10/2/07

Isnt following a prophet today simply following something man-made? What today's prophets say is not in the bible, and since the bible is the complete word of God, needing nothing further, how can there be a prophet today that you are allowed to listen to?
---alexia on 9/25/07

Alexia - its funny you should post this bc the Pope holds the power over the Church to even change the commandments - just thought you might want to think about that
---Andrea on 10/2/07

Alexia in the epistles Paul talked about people with the gift of prophecy. He told them to take turns when they prophecy. He told us to desire the gift of prophecy. Where are the prophecies these people in the epistles gave Alexia? You won' find them. If you look up the definition of prophecy it means, "the fortelling of a future event." The prophecies that were for the entire Church were written in the BIble. Prophecies for individuals are a different story.
---Matthew_from_LA on 10/2/07

Another interesting question. Are the 2 Witnesses in Rev.11 Jews who have not yet accepted Jesus as Messiah? How could they be witnesses of something they did NOT believe in? If they are Jews who by that time have believed, then they are no longer Jews but new creations in Christ Jesus.Gal.3:28 - If there are no longer any 'real' prophets of God, then these two must be false prophets.The entire world will rejoice at their deaths.Will you?
---Jack on 10/2/07

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Amen Denna...well said!
---Holly4jc on 10/2/07

for MarkV - Your blogs are interesting but bring up an interesting question. If the office of PROPHET has been done away with, can you shed any light on the 2 Witnesses of Rev 11? My understanding is this takes place during the Tribulation. Are the 2 Witnesses NOT prophets? Perhaps God neglected to tell them their office has been done away with.
---Jack on 10/2/07

Mark V,

Although I respect your interpretation I do disagree. If as you are referencing that the offices of apostle and prophet in Ephesians were done away with then you must also include evangelists, pastors and teachers.

Goodness knows the churches need all the help they can get, if used properly.
---denna7667 on 10/1/07

#2. the body of Christ. I know it does many times when someone makes the gift's essential, and condemn others for not having it. Thank you also for your insight and many of your answers and for helping us all. All the glory to the Lord, for without Him we would all face hell.
---Mark_V. on 9/25/07

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Isnt following a prophet today simply following something man-made? What today's prophets say is not in the bible, and since the bible is the complete word of God, needing nothing further, how can there be a prophet today that you are allowed to listen to?
---alexia on 9/25/07

Mark V.

You did an excellent job explaining His word.
Thank the Good Lord for your insight.

May God bless each everyone on both sides of this discussion.
---trey on 9/25/07

This subject is not an essential of the Christian faith, so I will side with Trey on his answers. Here is why, Ephesians if read in it's context and supported by other passages, speak of two offices that ceased with the completion of the New Testament. The offices of Apostles and the office of prophets. In full context the passages in Ephesians are written by Paul to the believers at that time when he was talking in verse 1:1.
---Mark_V. on 9/24/07

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