The mormans are No diff from All the other Man-made relig-org's churches, r-catholocism & her offsprings, J-witness, then the god's of hindu's, buddha, muslims, mohammed etc. |
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---Lawrence on 10/2/09 |
Samuel -
According to what I've researched you do not have correct information. (wow -that's a shocker!) My research has found that it is thought that Joseph Smith originally had five scrolls and that only eleven fragments of two of them have survived.
Do I believe that the Kolob thing is "ridiculous?" No, actually I agree with Doug on this one. Kolob is not said to be the planet where God lives and as much as people like to say it - it doesn't make it true. Kolob is a star and really doesn't have anything to do with doctrine. Just a tactical claim made to make Mormons seem crazy. |
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---HappyLDS on 4/25/09 |
Kolob comes form the Book of Abraham which was an egyption scroll. Fortunatly for us Smith thought no one would ever be actually able to read Egyption Hieroglphs and copied the Hieroglphys down. So we can actuall read was is really written down.
The words of Smith and the atual writing do not match. The original scroll was also found if memotry serves me correctly. With a simple Egyption dictionary I can translate some of it. |
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---Samuel on 4/20/09 |
Which one sounds more crazy. That a celestial being lives somewhere in the celestial realm near a planet called Kolob, or that God is everywhere and nowhere? |
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---Doug on 4/19/09 |
Funny but True:
Seriously according to LDS:
Planet/star Kolob is where there is a "real" mormon throne and god in space, (not just some pretend Vulcan dude you see on Star Trek.) |
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---spinoza on 4/19/09 |
Merry Miss,
Are you sure you don't have your cults mixed up? The Heaven's Gate spaceship already left.
All joking aside, when people leave the truth and look to other groups and holy books, they can end up believing the most unbelievable things. Do and his group mixed Christianity with New Age mysticism, aliens, etc. and believed it so strongly that they were willing to commit suicide to reach the "Next Level" with no proof of its existence.
It is interesting, and sad, that the Bible, which has such a wealth of archaeological, geographical and documentary evidence is set aside in favor of Mormon literature, which has none. The planet, or star, Kolob, is another Mormon teaching for which there is no evidence. |
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---Laurie on 2/4/09 |
I had a vision the other night from Joseph Smith, he told me that Kolob revolved around Uranus. He also made me a new Prophet,and said the space ship will come soon.
All hail Kolob!!! |
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---Merrie_Miss on 1/5/09 |
Yes - mikem - much like you did- threw out the baby with the bath water.
You know this stuff is bogus - it must give you great pleasure to think your hurting your CS/Pent family. Were they UP?
and the fundie thing is really getting to be a bore - can't you do better then that. |
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---Andrea on 10/3/07 |
Andrea- check out the 'walk away from fundamentalism' website, or "fundamentalist anonymous" site. It is a great help to those trying to escape the grasp of fundamentalism. Many recovering fundamentalist claim, "it like my mind coming out of a fog"
My only complaint it they throw out the baby with the bathwater. |
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---MikeM on 10/3/07 |
andrea, you keep referring people to the site josephlied when the whole site is a lie to deceive people like you and suck you into satans paradise of half truths, falsehoods and lies. I have seen everything on the site and I can see why people like you enjoy it so much. if I saw truth on the site however, it would probably knock me over in shock. I can show you scriptures that would teach you truths from the bible, but as long as you choose to listen to men over God, we are wasting our time. |
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---lori on 10/3/07 |
The book of Abraham was where Joseph told this fable or was that the fable about the lost tribe and that the garden of Eden is in Illinois.
Isn't that why the temple had to be built there.....did God change His mind or did Joseph tell a lie
see josephlied |
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---Andrea on 10/3/07 |
Kolob is not a planet - it is a star. It is closest to the residence of God. Andrea - it's in the Pearl of Great Price which as a supposed former LDS member was highly available to you. It isn't talked about much because there isn't much to talk about. God was telling Abraham the governing order of the sun,moon and stars. It isn't as sinister as you wish people to think! Members are told to study the scriptures - it was always there for you to read, it wasn't being kept secret. |
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---Tammy on 9/16/07 |
The planet Koiob story like the golden plates, especially apron, and marriages in heaven are lies told by you guessed it--- Joseph Smith. |
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---Mima on 9/15/07 |
1)People are not told all the story - when I was in the LDS - I was never told any of this. The Book of Abraham is LDS canon scripture
1835, M. Chandler brought a traveling exhibition of four Egyptian mummies and papyri to Kirtland, Ohio, then home of the Mormons. The papyri contained Egyptian hieroglyphics. Rosetta Stone had been discovered in 1799 and not completely deciphered, translations from the Egyptian language were not available until the 1850s. Jos Smith, Jr., the founder of LDS
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---andre5846 on 9/15/07 |
2) Due to Smith's notoriety and claims to translate ancient records - the golden plates of the Book of Mormon, he was asked if he could transcribe the texts. Smith declared that two of the scrolls contained the writings of Abraham and Joseph of Egypt, out of this Book of Abraham came Kolob.
later Egyptologists have found that the translation was a fraud. |
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---andre5846 on 9/15/07 |
Denna: You're obviously quoting a source. Is it from Mormon idealogy? |
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---Leon on 9/15/07 |
The reason they insist is because they are told/brainwashed into believing they are Christians. Too bad they do not know the truth. Most have never had a chance to study the Doctrine of Jesus Christ. |
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---jody_martin on 9/15/07 |
If you know your Bible, you can prove this. Jesus said "He called them gods, to whom the word of God came" (in John 10:34). Someone on Kolob got God's word, became a god..."as He is" (1 John 4:17) so he then could come here and do God's thing here (earth is where I'm writing this). But if the Mormon god from Kolob does not give you "rest for your souls" (Matthew 11:29) in sweet and sensitive sharing with our Father, now we have a problem. |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 9/15/07 |
Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the Moon?... When you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the most ignorant of their fellows. So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question about it, it was not made in vainJournal of Discourses, Vol 13, p. 271, p. 95 |
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---andre5846 on 9/15/07 |
How many earths are there? ...they are continually coming into existence, and undergoing changes and passing through the same experience that we are passing through... Sin is upon every earth that ever was created. ...consequently every earth has its redeemer, and every earth has its tempter...
LDS Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 1870, Vol. 14, p 71 |
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---andre5846 on 9/15/07 |
Kolob means "the first creation." It is the name of the planet "nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God." It is "first in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. One day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement of this earth." |
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---denna7667 on 9/15/07 |
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