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Are There 11 Commandments

I have heard that there are eleven commandments, not ten. Has anyone else heard this, and if so then what is the eleventh one?

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it means-John 13:34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8 love is patient, love is kind. not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease, where there are tongues, they will be stilled, where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
---Loo on 5/3/16


Samuel: The souls under the altar can be seen as readily as the voice of Abel's blood can be heard from the earth.


---jerry6593 on 4/19/16


Again Cluny you are not answering my question or speaking of my answer.

I don't believe a real dragon was waiting to eat Jesus when he was born. But that it is symbolic. If you believe the souls are real under the altar how do they fit? Why is there an altar there? What is it for?

Is a soul non corporeal? If so why would it need to rest or have a robe?

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 4/18/16


\\But that souls mean a combination of Body and Spirit. That they would not be kept under an altar since they serves no purpose.

If they are real how do all the Martyrs fit. Why are the told to go back to sleep? If they are Spirit why are they give robes.\\

So, when the Bible says St. John saw "souls under the altar," it means there were NO souls under the altar.

Is that what you think?

And they were not told to go back to sleep, but to REST. Big difference, even in English.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/18/16


That actually avoids my question.

I believe the Temple in heaven is real since Heaven is a real place where we will dwell.

But that souls mean a combination of Body and Spirit. That they would not be kept under an altar since they serves no purpose.

If they are real how do all the Martyrs fit. Why are the told to go back to sleep? If they are Spirit why are they give robes.

I answered your question your turn?
---Samuelbb7 on 4/17/16




cluny: Why are you always arguing with Jesus?

Glory to the REAL Jesus Christ, the Creator and Author of the Ten Commandments!



---jerry6593 on 4/17/16


Better you should ask jerry this, Samuel.

"If you think the throne is real, why are the souls of the martyrs under the altar also real?"

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/16/16


The throne is probably symbolic. But Cluny if you believe the throne is symbolic? Why do you not think the same thing about the altar under which lies the souls.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/15/16


cluny: "jerry, to say that God has a throne with things under it is to say He has to sit down, which is primitive and puerile anthropomorphism."

Jesus disagrees:

Mat 23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.



---jerry6593 on 4/14/16


jerry, to say that God has a throne with things under it is to say He has to sit down, which is primitive and puerile anthropomorphism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/13/16




/Reread the passage again. Read the verse from genesis.
Now tell me doesn't say Sabbath?\
Here we go again. I didn't say it didn't say Sabbath for I posted the 4th commandment.
But nowhere is posted the Sabbath in Genesis.
/Also the verse you quoted says the Sabbath was made for man.\
Yes here:
Exo 16:29-30 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days, abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. So the people rested on the seventh day.
I'll say it again:
The 4thC was not set up to remember creation, but to remember the command and the God that brought them out of Egypt.
---micha9344 on 4/13/16


Reread the passage again. Read the verse from genesis.

Now tell me doesn't say Sabbath?

Also the verse you quoted says the Sabbath was made for man.

You keep saying I am blinded. But it is you who are leaving out words. You are not following scripture.

False accusations aren't proof. Give me scripture.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/12/16


Oh, SDA's are so good at bait-and-switch.
I did not say creation wasn't mentioned, nor did you say that creation was mentioned.
You said the Sabbath "was set up to remember Creation."
The Bible clearly says, as you have posted, Remember the Sabbath.
Why remember it? because it had already been given to them before Mt Sinai as SDA's proudly proclaim.
Why 6 days of work and 1 of rest? That's how God created everything.
Go down and read it again.
The remembrance part is not about creation, its about the previous command.
The creation reason was about the 6-1 days, not the remembrance.
The false prophet(ess) is blinding many.
---micha9344 on 4/12/16


Micha Exodus 20. Here is the Sabbath Commandment.

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Now tell me again that creation is not mentioned.

Gen 2:2
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/11/16


/"keeping the Sabbath doesn't really fall under either category"...Of course it does. It is the one which defines who God is, His dominion, and why He deserves worship - His Creatorship.\-jerry6593 on 4/10/16
-And yet the Bible says:
Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
/read the fourth Commandment. It states it was set up to remember Creation.\
Really, it doesn't. Only the blinding of EGW makes you think it does.
Do not interpret based on doctrine, Set your doctrine based upon His Word.
---micha9344 on 4/11/16


cluny: Perhaps if you were more of a scholar, you would study the sanctuary in the Old Testament and learn that it was a copy after the pattern of the true sanctuary in heaven.


Glory to the REAL Jesus Christ - the Creator and Author of the Ten Commandments.



---jerry6593 on 4/11/16


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Strong Ax you are usually a good scholar. But to say Jesus didn't speak about the Sabbath. Is a mistake.

The Sabbath is mentioned 50 times in 45 verses in the Gospels. Jesus condemned the Pharisees for keeping the Sabbath wrong. He spoke on the proper use of the Sabbath to help others.

Go to Exodus 20 and read the fourth Commandment. It states it was set up to remember Creation. Hebrews 4 speaks on it pointing to our rest in heaven also.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 4/10/16


\\The originals are still under God's throne in heaven as the foundation of His government. \\

Where did you get that idea?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/10/16


james: "Where are the tablets now?"

The originals are still under God's throne in heaven as the foundation of His government. A copy is still in the Arc of the Covenant hidden in a sealed cave outside the old wall of Jerusalem.



axey: "keeping the Sabbath doesn't really fall under either category"

Of course it does. It is the one which defines who God is, His dominion, and why He deserves worship - His Creatorship.

Eze 20:20 And hallow my Sabbaths, and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.
---jerry6593 on 4/10/16


jerry6593:

When Jesus was asked which of the commandments were most important, he didn't quote the Ten Commandments - he mentioned only two - love God, and love your neighbor. It is quite easy to see loving God covers the first three, and loving your neighbor covers the last 5 (and probably only honoring your parents), but keeping the Sabbath doesn't really fall under either category - yet Jesus never felt a need to speak about that one in particular.

But these 10 you claim to not be binding while concluding that others are. Strange!

Jesus mentioned two laws that Moses gave, that were not written in stone, as being more important than all others (including those that WERE written in stone).
---StrongAxe on 4/9/16


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James you're incorrect.

Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

You teach there is no law. Romans in Romans 7 and 13 say the law has a point. Read I john the law defines sin.

Calvin taught that the law is divided into parts. So did Wesley and even the RCC as well as the Orthodox church. A Baptist church had a sign GOD gave Ten Commandments not suggestions.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/9/16


"...the Ten Commandments, at the very least, are God's Laws and are of sufficient importance to Him that He wrote them himself in the permanency of stone...."
---jerry6593

Permanency?
Where are the tablets now?


"...But these 10 you claim to not be binding while concluding that others are. Strange!"
---jerry6593

It is strange. Along the same lines, scripture never dices the law into categories like moral, cermonial, blah blah blah

The Law is the whole law. So....

when was the last time you put a booth on your rooftop?
---James_L on 4/9/16


Axey: "If you obey one general rule.... you'll ALREADY be obeying all of those"

Does that mean that you keep all ten of God's handwritten Commandments because you love God and your neighbor? Good!



Michael: You are straining at gnats. You will agree, I'm sure, that the Ten Commandments, at the very least, are God's Laws and are of sufficient importance to Him that He wrote them himself in the permanency of stone. But these 10 you claim to not be binding while concluding that others are. Strange!


---jerry6593 on 4/9/16


I do recognize that the two greatest were written by Moses. So does the SDA church. Sometimes we just forget to say it the right way. Paul and Jesus both refer to the Ten Commandments as Commandments. As well as the Two greatest which is the guiding principal they are on.

The handwriting of ordinances is an over simplification. In fact in my research the ordinances are refereed to by Rabbi's as the Commandments.

What we call the Ten Commandments they call Ten Sayings, the Ten Statements, the Ten Declarations, the Ten Words or even the Ten Things.

Also don't forget that Judaism like Christianity is not a monolith. There are different schools.

Life is more fun when we realize it is complicated.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/8/16


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Yes, Jerry, 2 commandments.
Where are they found?
Not written in stone.
So, according to you: "Everything else is handwriting of ordinances by Moses."
Samuel also points this out in Luke 10:25-28, These 2 are commandments and they are in the law.
Since they are commandments and they are in the law, your and Samuel's statements concerning the 10C are false.
Why cannot SDA's call them commandments, as Jesus did, rather than principals, summaries, or ordinances?
Why cannot SDA's recognize that it is from the law (handwritten ordinances) of Moses that Jesus quoted the 2 greatest commandments and they are not written in stone?
---micha9344 on 4/8/16


There are many more than ten, but ten were etched on stone. Yes, there are far more than ten commandments in the Bible. Only ten are etched in stone.
---mike4879 on 4/8/16


jerry6593:

You wrote: One could logically conclude that anyone who claims to be above the Law of God (i.e., he is not "under the Law") does not love God or his fellow man.

Quite to the contrary, one who is already under the two laws of love (i.e. who loves God and his fellow man) does not need to be told the others, because he would ALREADY be fulfilling them.
If you obey one general rule, e.g. "don't eat meat", you don't need to be told dozens of others, e.g. "don't eat pork", "don't eat beef", don't eat chicken", etc. - you'll ALREADY be obeying all of those, and more.
---StrongAxe on 4/8/16


Michael: "Now you call the 2 commandments 'summaries.'"

Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.




---jerry6593 on 4/8/16


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Jerry and I don't always use the same vocabulary. But his intent is correct. My grammar and spelling aren't always correct either. I make mistakes and sometimes say things wrong.

Just correct me and let me try again.

I am sure Jerry knows that the Two are the Great principals on which all the laws hang. After all a Jewish lawyer did too.

Luke 10:25-27

And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?

And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind, and thy neighbour as thyself.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/8/16


Jerry, you said: "God wrote only Ten Commandments in stone with His own finger. Everything else is handwriting of ordinances by Moses."
Now you say: "The two Love Laws you mentioned, as Christ explained, are summaries of the Ten Commandments and as such are not separate laws."
Samuel said: "There are only Ten Commandments but they are based on two principals found in the Sermon Deuteronomy from the Old Testament."
So if they are in the handwriting of ordinances than they are lesser than the 10.
Samuels agrees saying: "They recognize that the ten commandments written on stone are above all others."
Now you call the 2 commandments "summaries."
---micha9344 on 4/7/16


Michael: The two Love Laws you mentioned, as Christ explained, are summaries of the Ten Commandments and as such are not separate laws. The first four Commandments show love to God and the last six Commandments show love to our fellow man. One could logically conclude that anyone who claims to be above the Law of God (i.e., he is not "under the Law") does not love God or his fellow man.



---jerry6593 on 4/7/16


Cluny. You have been misinformed. True they're 613 laws.

But they place the Ten commandments or as they sometimes call ten daver or words. If I were on my computer I could give you a reference.

Please look it up.

They recognize that the ten commandments written on stone are above all others.

Some Rabbis have stated all the other laws are commentary on the ten commandments.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 4/6/16


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\\God wrote only Ten Commandments in stone with His own finger. Everything else is handwriting of ordinances by Moses.\\

jerry, as I asked you earlier, does this include the more lubricious passages about elegant variations in intimate behavior between two men?

Are these simply the commands of Moses, and therefore non-binding?

You never answered my question before Please do so now.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/6/16


/God wrote only Ten Commandments in stone with His own finger. Everything else is handwriting of ordinances by Moses.\-jerry6593 on 4/6/16
Mark 12:30-31 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Jesus calls them "commandments", yet Jerry calls them "ordinances."
Some call the Decalogue, the "Law of God", call the others the "Law of Moses", and place the 10 above the others.
Jesus says otherwise.
The 2 are from the "Law of Moses."
---micha9344 on 4/6/16


God wrote only Ten Commandments in stone with His own finger. Everything else is handwriting of ordinances by Moses.

Deu 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments, and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.



---jerry6593 on 4/6/16


Traditional Judaism believes there are 613 commandments in the Hebrew scriptures.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/5/16


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On the night Jesus was betrayed, at the last supper, he gave the 11th commandment saying,
"A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." (John13:34)
---Donna on 4/5/16


Samuel I can agree with you about the 10 commandments.

As Jesus agrees.

Matthew 22:36-40
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/22/15


/There are only Ten Commandments but they are based on two principals...\-Samuelbb7 on 10/20/15
Mark 12:30-31 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment. And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Jesus calls them "commandments", yet Samuel calls them "principals."
Some call the Decalogue, the "Law of God", call the others the "Law of Moses", and place the 10 above the others.
Yet Jesus says otherwise.
The 2 come from the "Law of Moses."
---micha9344 on 10/22/15


There are only Ten Commandments but they are based on two principals found in the Sermon Deuteronomy from the Old Testament. Many think these are from the New Testament which is false.

Deuternomy 6:5
And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Tools specific to Deu 10:12
Deuternomy 10:12
And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

Leviticus 19:18
Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/20/15


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The Tablets are in Axum, Ethiopia and there are eleven. Jesus Commandment to Love one Another is the eleventh one. I know because I asked this question. No one had asked this question before me of the Priest who can view and always guards the Tablets.
---Jerry_Haymaker on 10/20/15


In the new testiment there is one commandment and that is love one another...this is the greatest commandment of all. if we did that we wouldn't need the 10 commandments. we will know christians if we love the brethren.
---shira4368 on 7/23/12


Deuteronomy 5:22 These words the LORD spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: AND HE ADDED NO MORE. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.
---francis on 7/22/12


check 1 john 2:8
---Jesses on 7/22/12


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See John 13:34 and John 15:12.
---karen on 3/11/11


He was quoting from the OT: Deut. 6:5, 10:12, 30:6, Lev. 19:18. This is the moral basis of God's moral law as expressed in the 10C's.
---djconklin on 1/26/09


Some folks get confused but Jesus made it simple. Matthew 22:38-40 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
---denna7667 on 11/28/08


"There actually, according to Judaism, are 613 commandments."

If you look closely at the 613 you'll find that some are simply expansions (explanations) of what the 10C mean.
---djconklin on 9/18/07


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There actually, according to Judaism, are 613 commandments.
---Jack on 9/17/07


"Some folks get confused but Jesus made it simple. Matthew 22:38-40 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

He was quoting from the OT: Deut. 6:5, 10:12, 30:6, Lev. 19:18. This is the moral basis of God's moral law as expressed in the 10C's.
---djconklin on 9/16/07


if you love god with all your heart,mind & soul and if you love your neighbor as you do yourself, you have already fulfilled the 10 commandments...
if you love god you won't kill, you won't steal ect. ect. ect. and you won't do things that are shameful in the sight of god...
---Duane on 9/16/07


The Bible says that there are ten.

Deu 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even TEN COMMANDMENTS, and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

Jesus merely pointed out that these commandments are summarized by LOVE - love to God and love to man.
---jerry6593 on 9/16/07


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Yes, Denna, we have the commandments to love God and love our neighbor. Why do we usually hear about the "ten" commandments, and see them displayed, but not our Two Love Commandments? Maybe because the "Ten" appeal more to the free will, being what our egos can boast we do, while loving God and loving all people requires what only God can do.
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/16/07


To love one another as the lord loved us!
This was the new commandment that the lord gave us just before he ascended into heaven,
Before this their was 2 great commandments,
The 1st, to love God with all your heart,mind & soul... The 2nd is like it, to love your neighbor as you love yourself.
If man could have been saved by the 10 commandments the lord would'nt have to come hear and die!
---duane on 9/15/07


"what is the eleventh one?"

"A new commandment I give unto you, That you love one another, as I have loved you, that also you love one another. By this shall all men know that you are My disciples, if you have love one to another" John 13:34.35 "This is my commandment. That you love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friend. You are My friend, if you do whatsoever I command you" John 1512-14
---joseph on 9/15/07


Go to Exodus 20 and count them - how many you get depends on how you lump them together and on where you start. The Decalogue makes for a nice round number and the Bible is big on nice sets of numbers.
---lorra8574 on 9/15/07


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We are commanded to love one another.
---Whisper on 9/15/07


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