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Jesus After He Was Crucified

Where was Jesus the three days after He was crucified? Does the Bible say that He took the keys of death, hell, and the grave?

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What in Ephesians 3 even hints at Jesus going to hell?

Again, the 'spirits' mentioned in 1 Peter were specifically those who disobeyed during Noah's time. Is the contention that ALL those prior to Christ's coming were sent to some sort of spiritual prison upon death? And then Christ went after His death to this prison to retrieve them and lead them to heaven?

Also, consider Luke 16:19-31, the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Did Lazarus, having died before Christ, go to a spirit prison? No, Lazarus was taken by angels to paradise.
---Bobby3 on 9/16/08



Bobby3--

I don't mean to say anything. I have as many questions as you do. I only mentioned how some people interpret this.

I'm not a scholar, but a little research shows that the word "prison" here has no relationship to
hades or geenna (hell). The Greek word simply means a place where prisoners are held.
I have no idea the kind or location of this place these spirits are held or why. However, I can see the logic of the interpretation I mentioned.
I'd be happy to hear an alternative interpretation if anyone has one.
---Donna66 on 9/15/08


Donna, well done for finding those for us. I also believe Jesus went down to hell while he was dead, and released prisoners. (Eph.3) Maybe that was what was meant by the earthquake mentioned in one of the gospels, when Christ died. All this could have happened in an instant.
---frances008 on 9/15/08


"I'm suprised no one mentioned this scripture"

I was waiting for someone to. How does one interpret this, however, in light of Luke 23:43-46?

"He went to the place of the dead and preached the Gospel to those who, having lived in Old Testament times, had had no chance to accept Him as Lord."

Do you mean to say all those who lived before Christ went to hell? Notice the verses speak specifically of 'spirits' in prison who disobeyed during Noah's time. What is this 'prison'? And why are only these specific 'spirits' mentioned in the verses you cite?
---Bobby3 on 9/15/08


I'm suprised no one mentioned this scripture:

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, BEING PUT TO DEATH IN THE FLESH, BUT QUICKENED BY THE SPIRIT:

1Pe 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison,
1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Verses 19 and 20 are sometimes taken to mean that He went to the place of the dead and preached the Gospel to those who, having lived in Old Testament times, had had no chance to accept Him as Lord.
---Donna66 on 9/14/08




It should be clear that Jesus was NOT in hell:

Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."

Luke 23:43

AND

Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit."

Luke 23:46

He was in paradise with the Father.
---Bobby3 on 9/12/08


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Jesus went down to Hell to set prisoners free.
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hell is grave ...Christ will resurrect all who are in the grave when he returns ...

If Christ were really "alive and well living in Dante's hell" during 3 days then you must fully understand he was not resurrected to anything

...you mock God by claiming Christ was really alive during 3 days calling him a liar

you cannot believe Christ was resurrected from the DEAD if he were really alive "somewhere else"

Christ was resurrected from the dead otherwise your faith is empty

which do you believe the fables of men or Gods Holy Word
---Rhonda on 9/10/08


I believe Jesus went down to Hell to set prisoners free. Matthew 27(v52-53) reports that the dead were raised and went about Jerusalem. The verses that also support this on are in Ephesians 4(v8,9,10).
---frances008 on 9/9/08


here is your answer rev.1:17-18
17When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18I am the Living One, I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. "so yes he does say it again who can argue with the word of GOD
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---ginger on 9/9/08


keys are symbolic ...hell and grave are one in same not separate "places"

Christ was a flesh and blood man ...all flesh and blood humans die ...their thoughts perish ...they know nothing ...Christ was dead his thoughts perished HE knew nothing ...to believe anything else is adding to Gods Word ...believing otherwise would have one making God The Father a liar when He resurrected Christ from dead

Christ by living a sinless life overcame world ...He qualified to replace Satan at a future date ...when Christ returns to bind Satan he will rule earth with first fruits (those who live and died in Christ and those that are alive and remain)

and when Christ returns at that time he will abolish death (1Corin 15)
---Rhonda on 8/22/08




I have head preachers say that for years. There is no where in scripture where it says Jesus, "took the keys of hell death and the grave." The only reference to keys of hell death and the grave are in Revelation 1:18 and the living One, and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.
---denna7667 on 8/18/08


Joy, I believe you are correct.

When Christ said "Today" he meant "Today", not some future day.(Luke 23:43).

Concerning the word "Paradise".
In 2 Cor 12:4 Paul states that he knew a man that was called up to Paradise. Now start at the first of the chapter, Paul is speaking of the third Heaven (the home of God and his Saints who have died in Christ).

Hope this helps.
---trey on 9/29/07


Trey,Taking John's "vision" in Revelation as "literal" is like a Fantasy.(same chapter)sun turning black.moon red,Stars falling to earth (1 star would end it!)sky rolling up,mountains and islands dissapearing,calling on rocks to fall on them?? There's nothing "literal" in the whole chapter (or book for that matter) Interpretation is necessary to get the gist of "Revelation"!
---1st_cliff on 9/29/07


Joy Pt.2 Remember Jesus did say that His kingdom was not of this world, as in this current age. John 18:36 The thief's request to Jesus was "remember me when you come into your kingdom." Jesus' response "Truly I say unto you, Today you 'shall' be with Me in paradise." I submit to you for your consideration and study, the 'Today' as referred to here represents the day of the promise and the salvation of the thief, as well as 'The day' of His return and the resurrection and redemption.
---joseph on 9/29/07


Joy, In response to your question "..Isn't that kind of saying that Jesus went to Heaven..?" No. Paradise is only spoken of three times in scripture, all of which references a future place of happiness on earth. It is a park or garden that will be guarded and protected in Zion. A mountain in Jerusalem, as a monument and guiding pillar to the resurrected. Also referred to as the garden of God, from which Jesus will reign in His millennial kingdom. Cont...
---joseph on 9/29/07


1st Cliff,

I have to disagree brother. I believe what Paul is saying is that if the Spirit (Holy Ghost) dwells in you (for the Holy Ghost to be dwelling in you, you have to have been born again), God that raised Jesus from the dead, will also raise your mortal body from the dead by the same Holy Ghost.

In other words, if you have been born again, even though your flesh shall die, the Holy Ghost will raise your body from the grave.
---trey on 9/28/07


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Soul sleepers, the Apostle John was shown a vision of heaven.

Re 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

These souls were not in hell/hades, but in heaven???

Re 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

These souls cried with a loud voice???
---trey on 9/28/07


Trey, I suggest you make a comprehensive study of "spirit" . Strong's concordance says "breath,air,etc.."(GR.pneuma from which we get pneumatic -air driven)(Pneumonia,lung-air malady) There are "spirit beings" (Angels, God, heavenly beings etc.) Christmas spirit, spirit of '76 etc.. "in good spirits-attitude" Who knows which way your breath goes when it leaves your body?(Eccl.3.21) Rom.8.11. refers to the "spiritually dead".
---1st_cliff on 9/28/07


1st Cliff

After reading your comments, not only to me, but also to the others that believe in "life after death", and the ressurection of the body, the only thing I have to say to you is this:

Mt 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
---trey on 9/27/07


1st Cliff

Please explain this verse:
Ec 3:21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Did not God make man and beast?
---trey on 9/27/07


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To all of you who do not believe in the resurrection of the body, please give your interpretation of:

Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
---trey on 9/27/07


Hi. I thought that when Jesus said to the criminal beside him on the cross, that later that day, he would be with him in Heaven... Isn't that kind of saying that Jesus went to Heaven after he was crucified?... sorry, I don't know if you answered this question in the blog... I didn't really read it... but please respond!
---Joy on 9/27/07


Trey, You have 5 paragraphs of confusion. IE psl.16.10 & acts2.27 (sheol & hades)translated "hell" is where Jesus' soul(person) would not see corruption. Also you intimate that Eccl.12.7 (spirit) is the "person" going to heaven? When the spirit leaves the body ,it's your last breath (pneuma-GR.ruach-Heb)look it up!
---1st_cliff on 9/27/07


Let us keep scripture in context:

Ps 16:9 Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my FLESH also shall rest in hope.

Ps 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, NEITHER wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Why is Christ's flesh (body) resting in hope, because the Lord promised him the sure mercies of David (his body will not see corruption).
For further clarification please read Acts
2:27-29 & 30.
---trey on 9/26/07


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2.

Also, please note the word "neither" meaning not either, not the one nor the other, not the body or the soul.

When did Christ's soul feal the pangs of "hell"? (Psms 22:1 tells us - on the cross. Also see Matt. 27:46)
---trey on 9/26/07


3.

Please note: Christ doesn't call God "Father", he calls him my God. He was suffering as the Son of Man. He was taking the punishment of our sins. Please observe that later Christ states "It is finished!" (The sin debt has been paid.(John 19:30) Once this was accomplished He called him "Father".

Lu 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, INTO THY HANDS I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
---trey on 9/26/07


4.

Christ tells us in Luke 23:43 and 23:46 where he went. For those of you who have ears to hear let them hear.

Our redemption was accomplished upon the cross when Christ shed his blood for the remission of sin, and laid down his life. (Col. 1:14, Heb. 9:15)
---trey on 9/26/07


5.

Christ had no reason to go to "Hades" because all those that died before Christ was crucified went to heaven because of the everlasting covenant made between God the Father, Christ, and the Holy Ghost.

Eccl. 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. (Old Testament - before the death of Christ.)
---trey on 9/26/07


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Psalm 16:10 does not refer to the corruption of the body, it refers to the corruption of the soul. Christs soul never saw corruption. Even if His body saw corruption that didn't matter, God can restore the body and the body He was resurrected in changed into His pre-incarnate spiritual body when He ascended. Our bodies are not resurrected, scritpure is clear our new bodies are from heaven we have dwelling places in heaven, not from earth.
---Ryan_Z on 9/23/07


Andrea, You just explained that hell is the grave /tomb "you will not leave my soul in hell" When you're dead you can't preach to anyone. The preaching was done "in Noah's day"1st Peter 3. 19,20. (especially footnotes NIV)
---1st_cliff on 9/23/07


sometime during that time He visited hades and preached and He had a few things to tell satan too.
His body did not see corruption and that happens within hours of death - so how I don't know.

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
---Andrea on 9/22/07


No 1st_cliff I think we are in agreement. Man exist in this life as a "living soul" an animated, tangible, consciously aware being capable of thought, reason and communion with his creator. It is that communion and the ability to make choices based on logic and deduction, rather than instincts alone, that separates man from the beast. When the Father withdraws His Spirit, as the essence that sustains us, life as we no it ends, as both the body and soul ceases to function.
---joseph on 9/22/07


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Jesus was in the tomb - asleep - dead!
---jerry6593 on 9/22/07


Joseph, I thought you were in line with the rest of them that believed in the "division" of Christ (body going to the tomb and soul/spirit going somewhere else) They can't differentiate between soul and spirit so they lump them together! His breath (pneuma) left him and he was totally dead until His Father resurrected Him!
---1st_cliff on 9/21/07


Andrea: Divinators most definitely use it (cold reading technique) today as they've done down thru the ages. But like Oda Mae (in the movie Ghost), to her absolute horror, the witch of Endor got more than she bargained for...

God bless. :)
---Leon on 9/21/07


1st_cliff, were in my post do you read a division? The man Jesus died, body and soul. The essence of life that sustained Him returned to the Father. When He was resurrected that essence returned to transform and raise His body and restore His soul. This is my understanding, please share yours. Thanks
---joseph on 9/20/07


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I should straighten this up. When I said His soul died, that was a bad choice of words. What I meant, is what I said in the first post. His soul entered a "state of being void of consciousness, awareness or thought." His soul of course lived on the mind of God for its restoration and continuance.
---joseph on 9/20/07


Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Here is a companion verse:

Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
---trey on 9/20/07


Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Here is another companion verse:

Ps 139:15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

The lower parts of the earth is a mother's womb.
---trey on 9/20/07


What is really at stake here is the belief that Christ descended into hell to retrieve all of God's people that had died prior to Christ being crucified.

This belief is in error.

At death:
Ec 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Christ also states:
23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
---trey on 9/20/07


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Re 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

In the mind and purpose of God, Christ stood as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
By covenant agreement, Christ would descend to earth, and bleed and die on the cross.

Because of the eternal covenant God's people that died before Christ's crucifiction went straight to heaven, just as they do today!
---trey on 9/20/07


Cathrine,

Amen! I agree with you 100% on this issue.

Matt 12:40 and John 20:17 are speaking of Christ's physical body being in the grave for 3 days.
---trey on 9/20/07


Ps 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

I hope we can agree that the corruption being spoken of here is Christ's body in the grave.
---trey on 9/20/07


Ps 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell,

companion verse:

Mr 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Christ refering to:

Psalm 22:1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

Christ was suffering "hell" on the cross.

---trey on 9/20/07


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ok - I'll go with that

but gypsy's use it today
---Andrea on 9/20/07


Hi Leon,..Joseph, Altho you're on the right track,you fall into the same trap (pagan) that Jesus divided into two factions at death! Nowhere in the scriptures does it say "resurrection of the body" always resurrection "of the dead". The sea gave up the DEAD (not dead bodies) etc.. always "the dead" not dead bodies! Reading into it what isn't there gives credence to life after death!
---1st_cliff on 9/20/07


Where was Jesus? Ephesians 4:8-10 links to Luke 16:22...

I believe the saying, "He [Jesus] took the keys of death, hell, & the grave," is a eisegesical paraphrase of 1 Cor. 15:54-58 that was coined by overly zealous (perhaps well intention) WOF preachers.

Andrea: It wasn't a gypsy trick. Rather, it was Devine intervention -- the power of God.

Hi Cliff! :)
---Leon on 9/20/07


Duane M, The witch was the only one who "saw" Samuel,Saul recognized him from her description of the clothes he wore (dead souls wear clothes??? really?) The Rich man and Lazerus is a parable, so no real indication of life after death!
---1st_cliff on 9/20/07


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"We inhale the moment we're born and exhale at death. This breath(spirit ruach,pneuma) returns to the one who gave it (God) and contains no form,inteligence, personality etc." I agree. Our form is an aspect of the body. Intelligence, personality, consciousness and thought are aspects of the soul. Jesus' body was in the grave, His soul was in hell, a metaphor as used here, for a state of being void of consciousness, awareness or thought. Acts 2:27 is applicable only in this manner.
---joseph on 9/20/07


the witch of engor only 'said it was samuel' when you read the book closely you'll see she didn't say anything until she knew it was Saul - it was a gypsy trick - they still do it today at carnivals.
---Andrea on 9/19/07


In the book of samuel,
you can read about when the witch of endor brought samuel out of his resting and samuel talked with saul and told him today
his kingdom is given to another and that he is going to die in the battle.
the begger lazarus{not the friend of our lord}that was comforted by abraham when he died and the other man that had to live in torment, and does thirst to this day. waiting to be judged for his works or the lack of them!
---Duane_Martin on 9/19/07


Cynthia, We inhale the moment we're born and exhale at death. This breath(spirit ruach,pneuma) returns to the one who gave it (God) and contains no form,inteligence, personality etc. The scriptures say nothing about "just the body" dieing,this is concocted to support the pagan idea that one is still alive at death!
---1st_cliff on 9/19/07


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Catherine was that a misspeak (in the ground)?

His body stayed in the ground and was resurrected. Don't you get it the same will happen to every born-again believer.
---catherine on 9/18/07

Psa 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
---Andrea on 9/19/07


#1 Three days after the crucifixion was the resurrection. During those three days the bible is very clear:

Mat 12:40 for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
---Ryan_Z on 9/19/07


#2 Jhn 20:17 Jesus *said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father, but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.' "

Eph 4:9 (Now this {expression,} "He ascended," what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth?
---Ryan_Z on 9/19/07


#3 In the day of Christ's death He did not ascend into heaven, this is clear by John 20:17. In the day of the death of the Son of Man He descended into the bowels of the earth. This is not speaking of His body the scriptures in Matthew and Ephesians speak of Christ's soul descending into the heart of the earth.
---Ryan_Z on 9/19/07


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Well, I won't tonight get into the death, hell, and grave. But what revelation I did get.>>>"Father, into thy hands I commend my Spirit. So the spirit of Christ went back to the Father. His body stayed in the ground and was resurrected. Don't you get it the same will happen to every born-again believer.
---catherine on 9/18/07


Although the graves were opened at the time of Christ's death- the bodies did not arise until after His resurrection. Saints went with the risen Christ into heaven." Praise God.
---catherine on 9/18/07


Christ tells us exactly where he went:

Lu 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

Lu 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

The Jews had three terms for heaven: Abraham's bosom, paradise, and heaven.

---trey on 9/18/07


Here is a wonderful true teaching."greetings.Moments before Jesus physically died he said to his Father I give you my spirit.Technically there was no loss of time in Jesus' mind as we would have if we were to die.Only his body was carried to the grave without his presence of spirit inhabitating it.Jesus' spirit form did not inhabit a grave
---Mima on 9/18/07


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greetings.Moments before Jesus physically died he said to his Father I give you my spirit.Technically there was no loss of time in Jesus' mind as we would have if we were to die.Only his body was carried to the grave without his presence of spirit inhabitating it.Jesus' spirit form did not inhabit a grave.He was in the spiritual domain(his kingdom).His resurection was the key to resurections.Paul said,he led a multitude of captives,a dispensational roll call.
---earl on 9/18/07


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