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What Is Baptist Bride Theology

What is "Baptist Bride" theology and Landmarkism?

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 ---Cynthia on 9/21/07
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i go by rem7000 I guess when replied to blog question came up it asked me for my name and i jsut put my name. It has been awhile sense i have been on CN and wanted to clear this little mishapp up thanks sorry, Steve (rem7000)
---rem7000 on 8/1/10


Hi Cynthia, i was attending a soveriegn grace landmark missionary baptist church, when i started coming across these "different" doctrines like the blood trail where landmark claims it has it roots and the baptizism of John, but could not prove it, Bridal Theleogy etc. the best info. i got was from those whom left those heresies. One book i found helpful was "Old Landmarkism and the Baptists" Bob L. Ross which was very helpful. I left this organization but if i stayed and got baptized in their chruch i could have become a bride with them...I didn't believe thier doctrine. FYI
---steve on 8/1/10


Landmarkism is basically a historical revisionism that claims that the Baptist Church existed since Pentecost, which it didn't.

It looks at anything that was not Mediaeval western Roman Catholic and says, "Oh, that's Baptist under another name"--even contradictory yet contemporaneous movements such as Albgensians and Waldensians.

Question: If Waldensians are the original Baptists, why did they become Presbyterian (for the most part) in the USA--and merge with the Methodists in Italy?
---Cluny on 7/22/10


trav
Freedom of relig or even salvations is not scriptural.
God gives you the choice to receive The Only salvation plan of God Mark 16 v 16, Acts 2 v 37- 41 which Fulfills Matt.28 v's 19 - 20 to be saved, or, take hold of the devils Man - made relig, org's salvation plans from here 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15 , easy believism, no works salvation, the sinners prayer, repeat aft me etc & be lost. It's Your choice.
---Lawrence on 7/22/10


Again freedom of religion isn't scriptural, But, God does give people a choice.
---Lawrence on 10/30/09

There is only one truth. We are free to seek,knock, search, look, ask, pray read....when we, if we see it.....there is only one choice.
Anything else is a generic.....watered down, luke warm and false.
---Trav on 10/31/09




God's Church was born on the day of Pentecost according to Mark 16 v 16, Acts 2 v's 37-41 which Fulfills Matt 28 v's 19-20. Gal 1 v's 8-9. Freedom of religion isn't scriptural.
Down below, these Man-made relig-org's came into existance about 300 or so years later aft the day of Pentecost, r-catholocism being the first trin-church & years later Not in correct order, her offspring churches, bapt, presby, luth, episco, method, naz etc churches. Such good people but so spiritually blind. The light that came to man to start these is 2nd. Cor 11 v's 14-15. Again freedom of religion isn't scriptural, But, God does give people a choice.
---Lawrence on 10/30/09


"Baptist Bride" Theology and Landmarkism is not heresy. Let us establish some facts from the Word of God. First God delivered a set of beliefs (the faith)to the saints. Jude 3. Second Jesus said that His institution the church would never cease to exist. Matthew 16:18.

The Roman Catholic Church has nothing in common with the churches we see in the New Testament. The churches we see in the New Testament were Baptist in what the believed and preached. Baptist Churches have always existed since the time of Jesus Christ to the present day. Baptists are not protestants.
---Billy on 1/6/09


"Baptist Brider" is an extreme Baptist who believes that"The Baptist Church"is the Bride of Christ.All other Christians supposedly make up the FAMILY of God, but are not part of THE BRIDE.The details of this heresy differ from one group to the next,

Another cult with a special ticket to
heaven.
I've known Baptists,never heard of this. Can only figure its a fringe group.

Please someone slap me if I ever say you have to belong to my church to go to a special heaven.
---Andrea on 11/18/08


Amen, I wanted to say thank you and God bless you all for your Godly insights. And Pastor Herb, as a member of the independent Baptist Church denomination, I get the joke and God bless you for your loving sense of humor!
---Cynthia on 9/23/07


If you are in an independent church, stay there, I find they stick closer to bible doctrine than others, don't let the devil deceive you. All born again christians, the church, will be the bride of Christ, not just the baptist.

How ever, the bible teaches that baptist will be the first in heaver. It says the dead in Christ will rise first. Baptist joke for those who don't get it.
---Pastor_Herb on 9/23/07




MikeM: "Andrea even calls Baptist a cult, LOL!"

I don't agree with Andrea in many things, but in this case I do. All denominations are cult-like - they have their own interpretatin of the Bible, they have their own traditions, they have their own set of rules. When was the last time you saw a Lutheran leading a Baptist congregation?

The true church is NOT a building of sermons, entertainment, clubs and other services for the self-centered Christian. It's the people only.
---Steveng on 9/23/07


MikeM: There is a vast difference between the church of today and the church of Jesus' time.
---Steveng on 9/23/07


Cynthia,

I would like to suggest that you visit with your Pastor. Ask him if he believes Eph. 4:5 is water baptism or spiritual baptism. If he answers water baptism, I would be concerned.
You might want to print the article off of "Got Questions", and review it with him.

Hope this is helpful.

Lord bless you.
---trey on 9/23/07


Some churches believe that the "Bride Doctrine" is error.
They proclaim the Church as the body of Christ only and not the Bride - and the Bride being New Jerusalem.
---Rebekah_Martin on 9/23/07


The reason that I posted this blog is because I wanted to have a clear understanding of this. I would like to know if anyone can offer spiritual insight on the signs of such false doctrine. Denna I saw the article on got questions dot org, but I want to be sure that I am not attending such a Church. I am a member of an independent Baptist Church, and I have heard that our Church has been accused of being a cult several times. Can someone offer insights on some of the signs of Baptist Bride theology?
---Cynthia on 9/22/07


the theology of baptists originated in the 1600's when the reformers adopted the writings of calvin into their doctrines and teachings. the only church at the time was the catholic church. pentacostles weren't invented until 1906. its funny how many deny history. I guess that is why history always repeats itself over and over. NO ONE learns from it the first time. Just like the 1600's, people fight today over doctrines and invent new churches when in fact they still follow lies of man.
---ashley on 9/22/07


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Jesus' Bride is His Church. His Church has members from most all denominations.
---jerry6593 on 9/22/07


Hi, Cynthia...nice to see you, again...it seems there are people who claim their baptist churches trace all the way back to John the Baptist, that THEY are the only really right churches, that therefore they will be the Bride of Christ, while other Christians will be serving them in Heaven...us NOT being the Bride...since we have not been baptized in one of their churches.
But serving is such a blessing for us,

and, I understand, God's word says ***Jesus*** will serve > Luke 12:37.
---Bill_bila5659 on 9/22/07


Fom gotquestions dot org

Question: "What is Landmarkism? What is Baptist Bride theology?"

Answer: Landmark theology, or heritage theology, is the belief among some independent Baptist churches that only local, independent Baptist congregations can truly be called churches in the New Testament sense. They believe that all other groups, and even most Baptists, are not true churches because they deviate from the essentials of landmarkism.
---denna7667 on 9/22/07


Its said "put two Baptist in one room with one Bible and you will end up with three opinions."



Andrea even calls Baptist a cult, LOL!
---MikeM on 9/22/07


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It is the belief of some baptists (Some! One of the hallmarks of the baptists is that its really hard to find two of them that agree on everything! Baptist trained, here.) in a sort of "apostolic succession" of their churches. They believe that they, only they as the direct line of churches established by Christ, are the Bride of Christ. Others may come to the marriage supper of the Lamb as guests.
---ed_the_other_one on 9/22/07


It is the belief of some baptists (Some! One of the hallmarks of the baptists is that its really hard to find two of them that agree on everything! Baptist trained, here.) in a sort of "apostolic succession" of their churches. They believe that they, only they as the direct line of churches established by Christ, are the Bride of Christ. Others may come to the marriage supper of the Lamb as guests.
---ed_the_other_one on 9/22/07




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