It will be the awful violence and terror of the fundamen- talist muslims that will cause the Christles church to compromise in the end. If God tells us in His word that the end will come this way, who are we to change that? His plan is to allow Satan to run his course and then to be proved wrong. We overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony. The divine court of God. We can't change that.
---tommy on 10/17/07|
The only thing religious extremism,---which is born out of religious fundatmentalism---has provided the world is hatred, killing, and war base not on national boundaries but religious orientation. What I don't understand is the apparent position of many that they should sit back as spectators while the world grinds to this end. Would not Christ expect us to do all we can to prevent this?
---matthew on 10/16/07|
Matthew, it is the religious extremism that we see today in the form of Islam which will bring the other religions together in the spirit of ecumenicalism. I believe that this international compromise between the great churches which are not founded in Christ will bring the end. Satan will occupy the body of the one world leader at that point.
---tommy on 10/8/07|
whether you believe God created man,or man created god the Spirit of humanity lives,and the peace we are all looking for is in the standards of Jesus Christ. With that said, The Bible tell in the beginning War broke out in Heaven.John.[8:44,Rev.12:7] Now the earth was formless and void.[Gen.1:2] Thy will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven.[Matt.6:10] Warfare has played a major role in the affairs of mankind[Gen.4:22]The Bible testifies to this fact by prophecy [Gen.3:15,Matt.24:6-8,Rev.6:2-4]
---gary on 10/7/07|
Tommy, help me out here. So the religious extremism of many faiths, based on the belief of eaches adherents that their Holy Scripture is the inerant word of God, will murder each other because the other believes in the wrong God. And the result of this will be a one world religion that will bring peace and safety---before the end. That seems like a pretty extreme view in itself.
---matthew on 10/6/07|
Religious extremism is the catalyst that will usher in the one world religion (bringing peace and safety) before the end.
The antichrist will be a religious not political leader. He will falsely claim Abraham as the foundation for his faith, not Christ. Judaism, Islam and Catholicism will combine.
---Tommy on 10/6/07|
Clang ,clang, clang went the trolley
Ding, ding, ding went the bell
Zing, zing, zing went my heartstrings as we started for Huntington Dell.
Chug, chug, chug went the motor
Bump, bump, bump went the brake
Thump, thump, thump went my heartstrings as we glided for Huntington Lake.
---Bob on 10/5/07|
it does ring a bell I look at the 300 years of english and cathloic murder rape and pillage of the english scottish and irish covenators. men women and children who wrote and signed a covenant that agreed with Scripture that Christ is head of the Church! no kings or Popes Jesus Christ yep Mankind in the name of religion has blood stained hands.
---willow on 10/4/07|
Jesus was an extremist in his time. Christians are extremists when we claim, "Jesus is the only way." This isn't what we are talking about, is it? Extremism takes things to the next level: radical theocracy, fascism, intolerance, legislated Sunday observance . . . Just look at Iran to get a sense of how religious extremism can pose a threat. Could it happen here?
---bartel on 10/4/07|
correct Matthew. Our christian fundies would do well to realize they have more in common with muslim fundies than they do with us. Fundies turn into radicals, and radicals kill in the name of God. Ring a bell anyone?
---alexia on 10/4/07|
You'll think religious extremism when the One World Church and the one world money arrives. You'll find that temporary peace that you're looking for. Talk about martyrdom and really losing your head. I believe every horrid method that's ever been used will make a comeback - including mock crucifixions.
---Michelle on 10/4/07|
I think --- that in the final years before Jesus returns we will see all the major religions meld and the only extremists will be those that refuse to compromise the word of God.
I also THINK - that most of what we squabble about is just distractions from the really important work of the kingdom and that fear of what others might think is the single worst battle in the church.
wishy washy wishy washy gospel
---Andrea on 10/4/07|
There have been many christian missionarys who have been martered etc. It is spiritual warfare. Eph. 6....There may be some good in many garbage cans, but it does not mean that you are suppose to eat dinner there, likewise any thought that exalts itself above the knowledge of God is to be held captive, God is a jealous God. God is a threat to Satans kingdom, of course there will always be an unending battle for the souls of men until Christ returns.
---Whisper on 10/4/07|
Matthew - I was praying about this and the false religions when the Lord showed me something. 'take it for what its worth - it helped me greatly....
all religions or cults have 'a' truth. Some sell it and some use it to manipulate for power and control. But they all have a genuine truth.
What the Muslims have is "a love worth dying for". That is something the christian church has kind of lost...but they experience that passion. We try to maintain decorum and get along.
---Andrea on 10/3/07|
I asked this question out of serious concern. We know the stories of Islamic suicide bombers, mothers sending their children to clear mine fields, and of course 9/11. This is religious extremism at its worse. But what drives it? Simply that the Koran and Hadith are believed by fundamentalist Moslems to be the inerant word of God. Slaying infidels, according to these Moslem holy scriptures, provides believers a guarenteed place in Heaven, 72 virgins and all.
---matthew on 10/3/07|
Deuteronomy 13.6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers, 7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth,
---matthew on 10/3/07|
Dueteronomy 13.8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him, neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
---matthew on 10/3/07|
Dueteronomy 13.10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die, because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God...
So if we take this fundamentally to be the inerrant word of God, it seems to be that Christains have a whole lot of rock throwing to do. That is the extremism I fear.
---matthew on 10/3/07|
MikeM: Just wondering, do you wear a helmet & ride the short bus? :) God bless & deliver you from evil.
---Leon on 10/3/07|
Leon is correct. A free and open dialectic is not possible with fundamentalist, its a flaw in logic they are afflicted with. The Bible verses he brings up concern anger. Irrelevant.
I say, The grain you sell is too high do to 1, 2, and 3.
You, instead of dealing with the ISSUE ITSELF, 1, 2, 3 say, "Youre angry, hurt at someone, unfortunately we have a conversation," then offer a Bible verse. So the issue of the grain is avoided.
Who has the flaw?
---MikeM on 10/3/07|
MikeM: We, unfortunately, don't have a conversation. Heal! :) (Prov. 22:24-25, Matt. 13:9-15 )
---Leon on 10/3/07|
Leon-You have not dealt with the ISSUE ITSELF, a typical tactic of fundamentalist, if you constantly bail from the issue, that means credibility is a non-issue, also a fundamentalist trait.
-Which out of balance camp are you in?- meaning anyone in a camp not yours? explain. Mark Twain wrote, "self -rightiousness is the only form of narcissum busy trying to render itself saintly."
---MikeM on 10/2/07|
MikeM - your the Rosie O'Donnell of CN
get over it they can't hurt you anymore
---Andrea on 10/2/07|
Mike_Mmmmmm!:) Why are you barking at me? Did I touch your particular "religious extremist" nerve? Which out of balance camp are you in?
You agressively ignore (dont' want to hear it) & rant about things of which you have no true understanding. (Matt. 13:9-15) Heal!!!
---Leon on 10/2/07|
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with ALL thy heart and ALL thy soul and ALL thy strength and ALL thy mind, and thy neighbor as thyself.
Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
If any man asks you to go a mile with him go with him twain.
Heretics cannot sway those who know the Lord and terrorists can only kill the body.
Religious extremeism only poses a threat to those who know not God.
And that is their problem.
---Frank on 10/1/07|
Whart is a fundmentalist?
From a Bible conference of Conservative Protestants meeting in Niagara in 1895, a statement was issued containing what came to be known as the five points of fundamentalism:
(1) The verbal inerrancy of Scripture
(2) The divinity of Jesus Christ
(3) The virgin birth
(4) A substitutionary theory of the atonement
(5) Physical resurrection and bodily return of Christ.
---denna7667 on 10/1/07|
Leon, It is ignorance to call those who disagree with you of being guilty of "religious extremism." "unbalanced out of touch with reality" Yout terms,
cultic-meaning all religions not fundamentalist
legalistic, a form of fundamentalism
heretical-recap of 'cult'
secular humanistic,-vague term
atheistic, etc, meaning all but us. Who is the fanatic eXtremist?
---MikeM on 10/1/07|
By 'extremism' Islamic or Christian fundamentalism. Both want control, are intolerant, narrow, bigoted, demagogic, with a rabid dislike of education and with notions of theocracy. They are more similar than dissimilar.
---MikeM on 10/1/07|
There will never be world peace until the Prince of Peace comes to rule and reign forever. As for extremism, Jesus, when He was on this earth was considered to be an extremist and He did change the world.
---betty8468 on 10/1/07|
I believe in the extreme of being nonviolent, and an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure...by not allowing any violent emotions or reactions or thoughts IN me ((o: And anger is to be caring for the person who is wrong. And the extreme that Jesus is how to be so I can love like this. No other love is as good as His. All the others make us weak enough to argue and hurt each other and suffer emotionally.
---Bill_bila5659 on 10/1/07|
always has always will
---Andrea on 10/1/07|
If you mean "religious extremism" in the sense of being completely unbalanced (out of touch with reality, i.e., cultic, legalistic, fascist, heretical, secular humanistic, atheistic, etc.), then the answer is unequivocably YES!
What do you mean/think Matthew?
---Leon on 10/1/07|
No such thing as world peace.
Peace, peace.....One World Church will cry for it, but it will be a false peace. Since the fall of man, no world peace. That is a facade, temporary in the best of times.
Since the fall, religious extremes have always been with us. There's nothing new under the sun.
The Son is holding this world together, without Him it would reel to and fro. He is in charge, He could swap the polarity of the earth's poles at any time.. He spoke this earth into existence.
---Michelle on 10/1/07|