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Holy Spirit In Unclean Temple

I have heard the following statement made many times."The Holy Spirit is Holy and will not dwell in an unclean temple."Do you believe St. Paul had the Holy Spirit in him?Remember Paul said, I know with no good thing dwelleth in my flesh.How does this all fit together?

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Catherine -- have you ever thought about the fact that you cannot possibly crucify your self (or your flesh)? You can drive nails in your feet and ONE hand. But you need help to complete the job. We can only accomplish this by letting Jesus finish the job. You have to open your hand and give it to Him. Then trust Him to do what is needed, without objection or struggle on your part.
---Donna66 on 5/24/10


Every human being has the holy spirit in them. good or bad, saint or sinner.

Genesis 7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, every man:
Genesis 7:22 All in whose nostrils [was] the breath of life, of all that [was] in the dry [land], died.

But the power of the Holy Ghost only works in the lives of those who obey God.

Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things, and [so is] also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.


It is the holy ghost in us that brings us to repentant when we make our temple filthy ( or sin).

If the holy ghost was not active in us leadng us to obedience, we in our own poower (flesh) could do no good.
---francis on 5/24/10


YOUR FLESH MUST DIE. Kill it, kill it....Paul was made right with God. We are made holy through God's Son's BLOOD. Yes, by Jesus' Blood, Paul was made holy. Jesus lived in Paul, Jesus lives, in His people. His holy temple is in me.....What do you have to say about this, Satan?
---catherine on 4/18/10


The flesh represents the carnal mind of man focused on the external adornments and passions of this current sensually based system of things represented biblically as the world. The carnal man dictated to, and motivated by the "Lust of the flesh, the lust of eyes, and the pride of life" is mentally opposed to the inspiration of the Father. As it is written "The mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, it does not submit to God's law, indeed it cannot." Rom 8:7 (RSV)
Therefore Paul's statement was completely accurate, no good thing dwells in the flesh, for there in none good but Father, and He has no place there. The Holy Spirit dwells within the mind, character and disposition that has been opened to receive Him.
---Josef on 4/17/10


When Christ died he died for the past, present and future sins. The blood atonement in biblical times could not have done it. The scriptures say that God has sealed us with the promise of the Holy Spirit. It has been sealed in us, not because of what we've done, but because of who he is. The Holy Spirit was always around, it did not dwell in anyone because Christ had to die first. So Paul did not have the Holy Spirit in him and he was right in saying that no good thing dwelleth in my flesh because the flesh and the spirit are always at odds with each other.2Cor:6-14 God said that I will dwell in them and walk with them and I will be their God.1Cor:3-17 God says that if anyone defiles HIS temple he will destroy them.
---Electra_Fernand on 4/15/10




YES Saul got the Holy Spirit only after his episode on the road to damascus,(God changed his name after this) Plus Paul wrote most of the new testament, And who wrote the bible? wholly men of God lead by the Spirit of God.
Hey, Paul was human also, You must understand how we are made, We are a spirit we have a soul and live in a body.
spirit= our spirit body looks just like our flesh bodies
soul=self= our thought process
body=flesh= remember our flesh always fights us because flesh is worldly, we need to rule ourselves with our spirit not flesh
---larry on 10/12/09


2 Peter 2:22: "But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again, and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."
"You got mud on your face
You big disgrace..."
It will take the Heavenly Fire Department to hose you down. Of course that is not talking about any of us..., right?

I like this particular lisa.
---Nana on 10/12/09


"The Holy Spirit is Holy and will not dwell in an unclean temple"...as far as I know, is in the same category as "cleanliness is next to godliness".

When Jesus washed the disciples feet at the last supper, He taught an important lesson.
As usual, Peter jumped to conclusions.
Jhn 13:9-10 Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.
Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all (he said this meaning Judas Iscariot was not clean)
Jhn 15:3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Our daily sins are like dirty feet, if Jesus has cleansed us within.
---Donna66 on 10/11/09


---lisa I wonder if you think the statement below describes "works" your works

"Since I received the Holy Ghost, I do not smoke, cus, drink, blaspheme, i keep myself as pure as possible. I fast as will to flush out the toxins from foods that aren't good for me."
---mima on 10/7/09


Is it in the bible that "The holy spirit will not dwell in an unclean temple!" I have not been able to find it!

Milton, the disciple
---Milton_A._Reid on 10/6/09




I am going to try and do this one without looking it up. I need your help, Jesus, is what I need! The flesh is no good thing. We war against the flesh all the days of our lives. God lives in our Spirit, that is those who belongs to Him. Yes, the Spirit of God lived in Paul. Paul is happy now, saith the Lord thy God. While Paul was here, he was kept in chains.
---catherine on 3/24/09


Repentance. I have the Holy Spirit within me, and You can't receive it without repentance first. Paul also said we have to die daily, which is to repent daily. crusify ourselves spiritually with Him. Our old nature, the flesh will sin again, there's no question about it, that's why. Repentance means to turn completely around and do the opposite. Since I received the Holy Ghost, I do not smoke, cus, drink, blaspheme, i keep myself as pure as possible. I fast as will to flush out the toxins from foods that aren't good for me.
know ye that you are a temple....keep it clean
---lisa on 3/24/09


Paul was a soldier for Christ, spreading the gospel throughout the Middle East and beyond. This was not for any purposes of personal ambition, since he knew he would die, and suffered all his Christian life. Surely it is beyond doubt that the Holy Spirit was in him. However, he should not be elevated to a position above Jesus and neither should people say 'Oh, but he was speaking to the church and Jesus was speaking to the Jews.' No!!! Jesus was speaking to everyone for much of his sayings, especially his parables and talk about judgement to come. Paul called himself the least of the apostles. He may have had reason to say that since he had a lot to make up for.
---frances008 on 10/27/08


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Sin (Rom.8:3) is the "no good thing dwelling in our fleshy body" and God shall destroy both sin & the flesh, but the body which is our soul is for the Lord because the Lord brought it with the price of His Blood (1 Cor. 6:13,20).

God looks upon the heart of man which is our soul and is also the body that is the temple where the Holy Spirit dwells. God only seals His Holy Spirit of Promise to those who have gained a heart to do the Will of the Father. This is what it means to gained a clean soul, a clean temple.

Only God knows the heart of men, so whether or not Paul was sealed with God's Holy Spirit is something that should only be of a concern to Paul & God!!
---Shawn_M.T. on 10/27/08


Leon, quite the opposite. The sin of Adam and Eve gave men the ability to know when they were sinning and from that the guilt, shame, and need to repent that will bring us back to good standing before God. This conscience is something that every human being possesses and is something that will take us towards or away from God - depending on whether we pay attention to it. The problem is that most people see the advantages of doing evil while on earth and believe that they will be let off on some kind of hidden clause in the Bible. Not so. Jesus makes it clear in Matthew 13 that the good will go to Heaven and the evil to Hell. Also Matthew 25. There are no hidden clauses.
---frances008 on 10/27/08


Correct "...to be born spiritually dead" to read "...to become spiritually dead". Thank you. :)
---Leon on 10/26/08


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The whole of the "Original Sin" theory undermines the value of nurturing, innocence and hope. Proverbs 22:6 comes to mind as well as Jeremiah 23:2: "Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people, Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD." Mark 10:14: "But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God." Born again is to become as them children. See also Jeremiah 10:20_21.
---Nana on 10/23/08


Nana: Again, 1 Cor. 6:19 means the Holy Spirit resides in Christians regenerated spirit body which resides in & should rule one's physical body. Technically, you can say the Holy Spirit resides in your flesh because that's where your spirit man is. But, the more accurate fact is God, The Holy Spirit, resides first & foremost in in one's spirit.

Remember, Adam's sin caused him & everyone since him to be born spiritually dead. That is the part of man that must be born again, not one's flesh.
---Leon on 10/22/08


Leon said, "Again, the Holy Spirit resides in the spirit man, not the flesh." Apparently you did not read 1 Cor 6:15_20? Verse 19: "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?" Your saying is like saying, "the water in the lake resides in the water of the lake." How and in what way Paul's "flesh" was corrupt? Jesus said, "Why callest thou me good?" Again, how and in what way Jesus's "flesh" was corrupt? After all, he did say, Matt 26:41: "Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."
---Nana on 10/21/08


Nana: Please read Romans 7 (specifically 7:18) as Mima referenced in his original question. Yes indeed, 1 Cor. 6:15-20 says, our regenerated (born again) spirit man is to rule over our carnal (flesh), corrupt flesh man. Again, the Holy Spirit resides in the spirit man, not the flesh.
---Leon on 10/21/08


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Leon said, "..., not our corrupt flesh."

John 14:15: "If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16: And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter..."

John 14:21: "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

Who keep his commandments and who hath his commandments also has Jesus and the Father. Corrupt flesh? 1 Cor 6:15_20 says that your "corrupt flesh" is of your own doing, when you make yourself the boss...
---Nana on 10/21/08


Mima: Yes! The Holy Spirit dwells in the "heart" (regenerated spirit) of Christians, not our corrupt flesh.
---Leon on 10/20/08


I don't believe that the flesh will ever be holy, only the spirit.
---Gayla on 10/8/07
I completely agree with this statement.
---Mima on 10/22/07


scenario
Spirit filled man gets mad at his boss for docking him and cusses him - gets fired
friends say come home with us we'll figure this out has a drink then two....
comes home drunk ....wife slaps him he pushes her - gets arrested
jobless, wifeless, homeless all his own fault

Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
---Andrea on 10/9/07


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Most of the New testament was Holy Spirit "inspired" through rhe Apostle Paul. Absolutely and Amen Paul walked in the Spirit, but as in us all the flesh and the spirit war against each other. Until Jesus Christ takes us home to Heaven, we have to fight the good fight of faith. We have to keep our eyes fixed on our Lord, Jesus Christ just as Paul did.
---Cynthia on 10/9/07


1)
Mark 10:18: "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good?
there is none good but one, that is, God."
Matthew 26:41: "Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation:
the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." Paul was just
rewording, as it were, this one last verse.
---Nana on 10/9/07


2)
Lets not misquote or misinterpret Paul's full teaching for the purpose
of justifying the gospel of Instant Salvation with Holy Ghost, PopCorn
and Cool-Aid included. For Paul also said in II Corinthians 7:1:
"Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse
ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in
the fear of God." See II Corinthians 6 for the aforementioned promises
plus more specific instructions.
---Nana on 10/9/07


3)
Matthew 5:8: "Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God."
---Nana on 10/9/07


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Thats a good question, but, yes, I believe Paul had the Holy Spirit living within him, for he could not have done the work that he did otherwise. I think our temples are sanctified when we get saved, and that we are always in a battle with the flesh, warring against the spirit. I don't believe that the flesh will ever be holy, only the spirit.
---Gayla on 10/8/07


Well, he certainly was not speaking of the Holy Spirit. Paul was talking about all his weaknesses and sins he has to deal with. Yes, the Person of the Holy Spirit lived in Paul. He also had a flesh to put up with. As we all do.
---catherine on 10/8/07


Paul is referring to the fact that we have an evil nature. The only good in us IS THE HOLY SPIRIT. Our sins were washed clean by the blood of Jesus, but our sin nature will never leave us as long as we live. If we follow the Spirit which dwells in us,we are righteous but if we ignore the Spirit and follow our sin nature, we sin. That is the meaning. Pastor Larry
---larry9688 on 10/8/07


Christians can have an unclean spirits in them, such as a lying spirit, jealously spirit, rage spirit, lustful spirit, etc. Paul was meaning there isn't anything good that dwells in the flesh. In Ro 7:14 he says that the law is spiritual but he is carnal sold under sin. It is like a tug of war with the spirit and the flesh. Your flesh wants to do things that pleases the flesh, while the spirit is wanting to do things that pleases the spirit/God.
---Rebecca_D on 10/8/07


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