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Where Is The Grace

Grace. Vs Truth.

Where is the balance?
It does seem that Christians aren't lacking on the Truth aspect though but we are lacking on grace.

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 ---Marty on 10/9/07
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Hebrews 10:26_31 is the same warning as Romans 11:19:20_22, 21: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22: Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity, but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 1 Corinthians 10 begins with: 1: Moreover, brethren,..." , 12: "Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. 13: There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful,who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able, but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
---Nana on 7/25/08


More excellent, I apologize for offending you and ask your forgiveness. God be with you.
---old_guy on 7/14/08


If you have a statement to make old guy, make the statement and give the reason you believe your statement to be true.

Let's not play games about kindred spirits or anything else.

Your question is completely irrelevant to the topic. By experience, I know that irrelevant questions are meant for controversy and to fabricate a scenario of your own (scheme). This is not fitting of a Godly person.
---more_excellent_way on 7/14/08


George, sounds like salvation involves a lot of works on our part.
---old_guy on 7/14/08


More Excellent, are we kindred spirits?
---old_guy on 7/14/08




The age of grace is still around and will continue until the times of the Gentile be fulfilled. The balance resides in the individual. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, howbeit past, present or future. Where the problem resides is in accepting that salvation or rejecting it.

An individual can say he accepts Jesus, but does not make Jesus his or her complete Lord. They hang onto authority for their lives and believe they have given it all over to Christ. Jesus said: unless you leave your mother, brother, sister, and everyone else including your very own self, you cannot be His disciple.
---George on 7/14/08


What the son of God did on the cross was COMPLETELY sufficient that EVERYONE on earth should have salvation available to them...

Luke 3:6...
"and all flesh shall see the salvation of God."

But that's not all Jesus did. Before He ascended to the Father, He left the Holy Spirit for us so that, if we choose to be a good student, we would be able to learn GODLINESS and have the GUARANTEE of salvation...


Ephesians 1:14...
"which is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it,..."

There is alot more to learn about the "depths of God" (1 Corinthians 2:10) than what the institutional church knows or teaches. True Christianity is not a faith, it is a LOVE.
---more_excellent_way on 7/14/08


Bobby, that would be nice. I hope so.
---old_guy on 7/14/08


I am confused about the last couple of posts...Do you mean to say that every single person will be saved?
---Bobby3 on 7/13/08


Debbie, I liked what you said. If God wills that all men be saved then I reckon that will happen since no one can thwart God's will. Amen!
---old_guy on 7/12/08




I Tim. 2:4 - GOD "WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED." It is not His will "that any should perish" - II Pet.3:9. The Holy Spirit convicts all men of sin, because all may be saved by believing on Jesus the Saviour of men. John 3:16, the plain words of Jesus, should always be remembered - "Whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Therefore, we should pray for all men.

I Tim. 4:7-10 - For understanding, we need to go back to V.7, "But refuse profane and old wives' fables." Tit. 1:14 speaks of "Jewish fables," and II Pet. 1:16 speaks of "cunningly devised fables." They are stories not founded upon truth, but in the mind of man's own corrupt wisdom.
---Debbie_Jo on 7/12/08


Debbie, I hope you are right. What do you make of 1 Timothy 2:4 and 4:10?
---old_guy on 7/11/08


10: 26-31 This is not a warning to saved people, but to those who have been enlightened but still reject God's salvation thru the death and resurrection of Christ. Saved people will never call the blood of Christ an unholy thing. 10:10 tells us that all men have been provisionally sanctified by Christ's death, but some wont accept that provision, as did the Jews, they slapped the Spirit of grace in the face. They turned away from the light and Holy Ghost conviction, they sinned wilfully. They knew that Jesus Christ was God's Son and that He was sent to redeem and save them, but they deliberately, wilfully walked away from "the Light of the world."
---Debbie_Jo on 7/11/08


Debbie, what do you make of verses 26-31 of Hebrews 10?
---old_guy on 7/10/08


There are however, a small number in comparison to the rest of Christaindom, that do preach and teach the full counsel of God as taught by the Apostle Paul. Those that understand Grace understand that Jesus finished the work on the Cross. All that is left for us to do is rest in that finished work. Read and study Hebrews 10:9-17, the first thing you must understand to trutly see grace is the fact that Jesus forgave all our sins past, present and future on the Cross where God remembered them, but in V. 17, it says that He remembers them no more. He has forgiven you and you are forever covered in Christ's righteousness. All believers are "made the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus." - II Cor, 5:21.
---Debbie_Jo on 7/10/08


We may need a lot of grace to know what the truth is.
---old_guy on 7/10/08


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John 1:17 - For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Grace and Truth are all wrapped up in Jesus, He is Grace and He is Truth. There is not one believer that should be lacking in either Grace or Truth. Grace and Truth are tied to each other, with the understanding of grace comes Truth and the more Truth you understand, the more grace will abound in your life. The problem that I see is that very few teachers and preachers know and understand the Gospel of Grace as taught by the Apostle Paul. The church today has strayed so far from the original teaching of the Apostle Paul, that it is hardly recognizable.
---Debbie_Jo on 7/10/08


I do not exactly understand what you are asking.
---catherine on 7/10/08


marty,balance?first comes love,then truth,if you are speaking of personal relationships with fellow believers.and our relationship with the world. we should think of all the lost as prodigal sons.always remembering Gods grace is reflected through us.
---tom2 on 7/9/08


Where is the balance?
Jesus Christ is the plumbline.

Jesus Christ tells us that being good, intelligent, wealthy, loving everyone is not the same as being forgiven of your sin.

Those who fail to recognize that Jesus Christ is God, are sinful, and will not experience Gods grace and mercy.

MMR
---Michelle on 10/14/07


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God's grace is getting something you don't deserve.
God's grace is forgiveness and reconciliation.

Mercy is not getting what you deserve.
Mercy is compassion.

MMR
---Michelle on 10/14/07


The blogs ask for Christ-like and biblical replies.
Luke 7:36-48.
Jesus, invited to the home of Simon the Pharisee for dinner. Pharisee and the girl.
Pharisee, did not acknowledge Christ as being God, "a teacher." The woman brought an alabaster vial of perfume, washed His feet with her tears and hair, anointed His feet with perfume. Her actions acknowledged, loved, and revered God.

MMR
---Michelle on 10/14/07


The woman had a bigger sin than the Pharisee, but the penalty is the same. Pharisee never saw himself as a sinner, debtor.
The woman came to Jesus to ask for forgiveness, she was profoundly grateful. His grace of forgiveness and redemption was her salvation.

MMR
---Michelle on 10/14/07


Pharisee did not know his sin, the woman understood hers and she received Gods grace and mercy.
Pharisee was held in high regard socially, politically, the woman was not. He was "good" and she was "bad." In Gods eyes, sin is sin. In mans eyes, less likely we sin a particular sin, greater the public rejection and recognition of it.

MMR
---Michelle on 10/14/07


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The Body of Christ has practical gifts, the edifying gifts, serving gifts - gift of mercy and many others.
Not everyone has the gift of mercy. The Body works together to serve one another,
The gift of mercy is the special ability that God gives to certain members of the body of Christ to feel genuine empathy and compassion for individuals, ...
I see people here with that gift. Trish, john and others have that compassion towards others.

MMR
---Michelle on 10/13/07


Real Christians are not lacking in any thing, grace nor truth. And the Christian does not choose between grace vesus truth, for both are active in a true Christians life from Christ.
---Eloy on 10/13/07


Marty)I am not sure what your question is. Are you saying that christian people are not gracious but do know the truth? If so, then I believe that it is just another sign of the approach of the end times. They lack love. The love of many will wax cold. Christians need to take that message very seriously. It is a good blog question.:)
---jody on 10/12/07


People don't have much truth or grace. [Unbelievers] >>>Truth lets define it. Propositional, personal, moral, and historical truth. Satan and men lie and enslave. Jesus is Savior because He is truth incarnate. The Bible teaches that believing truth is not a mechanical psychological function but is related to the human will. People believe what they want to believe, plain and simple. People chooses the lie rather than God's truth. Why do we do that?
---catherine on 10/12/07


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Let's settle this once and for all. Christians are imperfect people living in an imperfect world. Perfection will not be reached until we make it to Heaven.Ok.To keep expecting Christians to be so perfect and having it all together is a lie. We are under construction and will remain that way until Jesus come. So we should not be surprised when we hear someone(Christian) has made an error or humanly mistake. God does and will forgive us of our errors but we must ask to be forgiven.
---Robyn on 10/12/07


Grace is the love of God which we did not deserve. Truth is conformity to facts or reality, which would be us recieving the truth, believing and recieving what Jesus Christ has done for us. I agree there has to be a balance, because if there is not , the world will not see any difference in us and an unbeliever. We are to reflect the love of God as to how our lives have been changed since recieving Christ. The unsaved should see something different about us as God's people.
---Cynthia on 10/12/07


Gods motives for us is our salvation,and eternal life with him in heaven.thats his sole purpose for us.we are out of balance because of our flesh,are motives aren,t love based as his.God is grace,love truth,we are poor images of him in that respect.
---tom2 on 10/12/07


We are called to act according to how God has called us to live. Lets call living according to God's standard the truth. However a question I would like to place is this, if when speaking the truth we are being harsh and inconsiderate are we speaking the truth to begin with.

I don't know the answer but I do believe we are called to give freely that which we have received, Grace. And I wish to encourage my brothers and sisters in Christ to develop this. That is the purpose of this question.
---Marty on 10/10/07


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Actually, I would venture to say because Christians are not rooted in complete truth, they are lacking in grace. That is, the Word should not just reside in your head, but in your heart. If God's Word is hidden in your heart, then you have been given the tools to extend grace.
---kady on 10/10/07


Further thought...how can someone extend grace apart from the Love of God?
---kady on 10/10/07


I don't have a problem with the truth and grace they are the same thing.

If you were refering to the law and or works and grace the bible doesn't contradict itself - people do.
---Andrea on 10/10/07


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