Christians Saved By Grace
Ephesians 2:8 & 9 says we are saved by grace through faith, and that it's not of us, it's a gift of God.
Titus 3:5 says our salvation is not by works which we have done.
But Phillipians 2:12 tells us to work out our own salvation.
Would someone please explain how all this fits together?
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---trey on 10/12/07
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The dispensation of grace (Ephesians 3:1-6) is that the nonJew can become a partaker of Salvation. Before the Jews alone could be saved, but after Jesus all mankind was included. Grace gives us the power to overcome evil and to follow good. Grace was given specifically to those who repented (sinners) and who believed in Jesus. So the believing sinner became forgiven. Those who do not sin did not need to have anyone save them from their sins. Those who are good do not need to be shown the Way, they already know it through the Holy Spirit.
---frances008 on 10/20/08|
Our INITIAL salvation is by the grace of God, when we are saved from death and the grave marked for heaven, however, we do not remain in that state it then becomes up to us to no longer remain in the old ways of sinning, sin is sin, if we got saved and continue to sin after Christ has already forgiven us there remains no more sacrifice for us by Him. His Spirit will not always strive with a man, and that is what is meant by "BACKSLIDE" then hellbound.
---Whisper on 10/20/08|
Let me give a practical illustration. If we believe the ceiling is going to fall in don't we DO something? Namely get out of the room?
The same goes for faith. True faith compells us to act!
If we sit in the room and claim to believe the ceiling is going to fall in and do nothing we will go to our death. Same with faith that does not act because it is not true faith but just lip service.
---robin8683 on 10/14/07|
Thanks for all the good posts.
May the Lord bless each of you.
---trey on 10/13/07|
Perhaps the following Scripture will help:
Isaiah 8:13: "Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself, and let him be your fear,
and let him be your dread. 14: And he shall be for a sanctuary, but for a
stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel,
for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem."
---Nana on 10/13/07|
Yes, salvation is a free gift from God, but following God will cost you everything. Some people think once they are saved that they can go on living a sinful life, and God will forgive them. This is FALSE. Yes, God is forgiving, but also just. You have to live according to the Bible, not anyway you want. God's grace will soon run out, and judgement will come.
---Leslie on 10/12/07|
God's action of grace has changed us so we are saved. So, it's His gift.
Now this action of God's grace has us working out our own salvation >
"for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Philippians 2:13)
---Bill_bila5659 on 10/12/07|
Phil2:12 is to believers suffering persecution,it's not dealing with "eternal" salvation. It is dealing with temporal salvation from the daily problems or with temporal salvation through the trials which faithful believers face. Paul used the same term in regards his salvation from prison so the word could mean eternal salvation but may not, in light of the rest of the bible, it could mean we need to fearfully remember we must work through this life and its trials till we come to the next life.
---Andrea on 10/12/07|
The book of James explains it well. Faith alone cannot save you and neither can works. Faith is the first requirement. If your faith has no works, it is not faith that has any value and therefore is dead.
Yes, we are saved by grace, but only through believeing enough to have it change us.
---john on 10/12/07|
After the Salvation experience, one is called to obedience of Jesus through following the Holy Spirit. It is possible to be enticed into the world and denie the Holy Spirit and eventually fall away completely. To prevent falling away, Paul says to work out your salvation with fear and trembling because anyone could be enticed back into the world and decieved through lusts,false religions,love of money. In anycase Bible says to be careful if ye think ye stand lest ye fall. Always fear God & be humble.
---jody on 10/12/07|
Grace is God's infinite treasure chest that He has bestowed on the unworthy and undeserving sinner. Faith is the instrumental cause of salvation through Christ, which is also a gift from God which comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. We are not saved by our good deeds but by mercy through God alone.Christ died for us and He paid the penalty for our sins. True faith will work itself out so that people around us can see that we are different. Only God knows if we have saving faith.
---Cynthia on 10/12/07|