One is saved by faith in Jesus alone. Baptism does not save. But it is a wonderful picture of death to the old sin nature and raising to a new life in Jesus. I believe people should be baptised by immersion whenever possible. |
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---Sandra on 9/9/09 |
Wow! That is so wrong.
We have been saved not by works but by grace, through faith, and this not of ourselves it is the gift of God -- that no man may boast!
Baptism is an act of obedience -- nothing more and nothing less. It is NOT for salvation and NOT for the remissions of sin. To say such a thing is heresy against the fully sufficient work of Jesus Christ who shed His Holy blood to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Baptism is important. It is obeying God's command and symbolizes so much. But we must not raise this beautiful act of faith and obedience to the level of an idol that we claim is equal to God Himself. |
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---Michael on 9/9/09 |
denna 9368
Praise God, Rightfully said. |
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---Lawrence on 9/9/09 |
To be saved, one needs to, first of all, hear the Gospel(Romans 10:17). Secondly, he must believe(Mark 16:15-16). Next he must repent of his sins(Acts 2:38). He must then confess that Jesus, is the Christ, the Son of God(Acts 8:36-37). Then he must be baptized(Acts 2:38). The Lord will then add him to His church(Acts 2:47,see King James Version). Finally he must continue to live a faithful life to Jesus. |
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---denna9368 on 11/13/07 |
James, baptism, not baptistism oops |
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---Kella3336 on 11/2/07 |
Yes James, I agree that baptistism is an act of obedience. I thought that I should have written that after I posted it.Obedience to to Jesus in baptism is a act of faith. I do love the Lord. A good verse to read is Colossians 2:11,12 . God bless |
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---Kella3336 on 10/31/07 |
I thought all Christian baptisms were for the remission of sins and so much more. Even the Jews baptise for this, although their version is not proper to the New Covenant and does not do the rest of what ours does. |
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---lorra8574 on 10/31/07 |
Christ always gives us the CHOICE to believe and to repent. It's never forced. However, on the Day of Pentecost, the new believers asked what they needed to do and Peter told them. If you claim to believe then it is no longer an "option". You MUST repent and be baptized and then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. When did Christ receive the Holy Spirit? AFTER he was baptized. (Mat 3:16, Mark 1:10). Why did Christ need to be baptized? "to fulfill all righteousness" (Mat 3:15) |
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---James on 10/31/07 |
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No one has ever said that "baptism alone" saves. You must hear the word. You must believe the word. You must repent and you must be baptized. Believing and repenting are acts of faith. Baptism is NOT an act of faith. It is an act of OBEDIENCE. |
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---James on 10/31/07 |
I do not believe that baptism on it's own saves but it is an important part in the salvation process, an act of faith after hearing the message, believing it, repenting,and confessing Jesus as Saviour. And I believe we are to continue to walk with the Lord to the end. with love kella |
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---Kella3336 on 10/31/07 |
Jesus saved us 2000 years ago when He was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried, He descended into hell, rose again on the third day, and ascended into heaven. Salvation from sin, death, and the devil was given to me personally on March 8, 1964 at my baptism. |
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---Tina5349 on 10/31/07 |
catherine wrote:
"No! Baptising cannot do anything about your sins. Baptising cannot forgive you of your sins. You need to plead the Blood of Christ for that, My friend!"
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catherine does not agree with St. Peter "Baptism now saves you" or St. Mark "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved" or St Paul's testimony "Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name". |
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---Tina5349 on 10/30/07 |
Trey,
Two things wrong with your statement. First, the Greek word "eis" does NOT contain the words "because or because of" anywhere in the definition. Second of all, read Matthew 26:28- "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." These are the EXACT same words as used in Acts 2:38. SURELY you are not implying that Christ told his disciples he was going to the cross because our sins were ALREADY forgiven. |
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---James on 10/29/07 |
Is anyone better than perfect Christ: and was Christ Jesus baptized. Baptism is God's Command, and it is up to each person whether they will obey or disobey. But know this person, no disobedience will enter into heaven. |
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---Eloy on 10/29/07 |
Kella quoted John 3:5. It shows both water and spiritual baptism are necessary. It is not an "either - or". I do agree that water baptism is merely a symbol of what we commit to do and what God is doing with us. But, God has often required symbolic acts for real benefits. The old testament was full of this. The Lord's sacrament (breaking bread and the cup of wine) were symbolic. Christ's washing of the disciple's feet was symbolic. Being symbolic doesn't automatically make it unnecessary. |
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---missy on 10/28/07 |
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Krause, yes Acts 2:38 is the verse. |
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---Kella3336 on 10/26/07 |
When you do it in your heart > when you truly repent > you have already done in your heart what you need to do to be forgiven. So, why would a tub of water be necessary, for what the Holy Ghost has already worked in your heart? In His name can mean in His authority IN His love making us pleasing and accepted with our Father (o: You need to already be in this before you go in the water, and this makes you ALREADY forgiven ((o: |
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---Bill_bila5659 on 10/23/07 |
No! Baptising cannot do anything about your sins. Baptising cannot forgive you of your sins. You need to plead the Blood of Christ for that, My friend! ++ |
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---catherine on 10/23/07 |
Kella, (2)
(continued):
Notice the word "for" in v38. Now read the following sentence.
"Jessy James is wanted for robbery." The word "for" (Greek: Eis) meaning "because, or because of".
We are baptized because our sins have been remitted by the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
In Christian Love, |
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---trey on 10/23/07 |
Kella,
Amen. When I was baptized, I was baptized "for the remission of sins".
Acts 2:38 "...Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,..."
Remember that Peter is speaking to "born again" Jews. |
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---trey on 10/23/07 |
are you refering to Acts 2:38 which also seems to imply that the blood is applied at baptism. getting forgiveness is one thing but washing the stain clean is another. the main reason i was baptised was to wash my sins away calling on the name of the Lord Jesus. so i was also baptized in Jesus name. |
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---Kraus on 10/23/07 |
When I was baptised, I already KNEW I was forgiven, and I still am forgiven. I was forgiven at calvary. |
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---duane on 10/22/07 |
I was baptized because that was my desire. Not everyone that gets saved, has a desire to get baptized. I think one should get baptized after getting saved, but that is between them and God. |
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---Rebecca_D on 10/22/07 |
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When I was baptized, I asked for remission of sins, but also acknowledged the Lord Jesus Christ and denounced Satan. By joining the body of Christ, we can turn to our Lord and ask for forgiveness of sins. |
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---Perniece on 10/22/07 |
1 Peter 3:15 says that baptism saves you, "not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ." |
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---InimicusStultitiae on 10/22/07 |
1 Peter 3:15 says that baptism saves you, "not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience through the resurrection of Jesus Christ." |
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---InimicusStultitiae on 10/22/07 |
Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Gost, and with Fire. *****On all occasions CONFESSION OF SINS was required and was made before Baptism. THIS IS NOT ESSENTIAL TO SALVATION: 1st Coritnthians 1:13-7. faith in the BLOOD OF CHRIST..... brings remission of sins Romans 3:24-25
4:1-25
5:1-11
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10:4-10
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---Whisper on 10/22/07 |
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