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Lady Of Fatima Blasphemy

In the Lady of Fatima story the apparition made 15 promises to the children. Here is that the 5th promise."The soul which recommends itself to Me by the recitation of the Rosary, shall not perish." Is this not blasphemy?

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GODS WORD,
through the prophets or His Son(Imanuel-God with us),HIS Word made flesh,
NEVER gave us this instruction.

1Jn5:6
...The Spirit is the one who testifies,and the Spirit is truth...

If we accept human testimony, the testimony of God is surely GREATER.
NOW...the testimony of God is this,
...he has testified on BEHALF OF HIS SON.


HIS WORD.

God peace.
---char on 10/1/08


Mary through Jesus gave a tool to use for Redemption by Meditating on the Mysteries of Jesus' life and awake in us an awareness which is dead b/c we are taken up with the things of this world which are Just glittering Baubles ."Store up treasures for YOURSELF in Heaven" is what Our Blessed Mother is saying.Give 20 minutes a day to recite with her, your intercession to God.The name "OUR MOTHER" should Conjure up Obedience, if you desire to be His Brother, Your God and Saviour His WAY.
---MIC on 9/29/08


the angel said to the children of fatima.
MOST Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I adore Thee profoundly.
I offer Thee the Most Precious Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ etc...
And yes the RRC does test the spirit as the Bible says to do.
Did you know Jacinta and her brothers bodies are considered one of the incorruptibles.
Now Russias errors have spread throughout the world.
Let is pray for the conversion of sinners...that people repent and come to the Lord Jesus!
---paul on 9/28/08


Miss Holly:I have no comment neither do I wish to make one.But Jesus uses us as instruments of Peace."Many are calle4d But few are chosen"
---MIC on 9/11/08


Mic, about my earlier explanation. One of my posts was not published for some reason. It explained better why God allowed firstly the Holy Spirit to visit me, in fact transform me, and secondly, how God allowed the devil to keep me physically controlled, handicapped and housebound - due to what happened I could not pray (I cannot give all the details away). However, when I recovered I found out why everything happened as it did. God wanted to force me to do some research. When I researched I discovered that the RCC are responsible for most of the evils that happen in the world.
---frances008 on 9/11/08




MarkV,FATHER LOVES YOU!
KEEP STANDING ON THE WORD...YOU HEAR THE VOICE...
Keep reading the Word.
Rom10:17 Faith comes by HEARING,HEARING by THE WORD OF GOD

Study ALL John 9 THEN 10.

Pharisees(blind to truth)
CLOSE THE DOORS to the Man HEALED and given SIGHT by JESUS [OPENS].Jesus asks "Do you believe in Son of Man/God...etc...then continues to -True/False sheperd parable told to Pharisees..."But he that enter in by the door IS the sheperd of the sheep".(Son of Man hearing the Voice of the Father)HOW?
he is the WORDS [in Flesh] to the Voice...Jn1:1-14
False Sheperds will try and enter by climbing up some other way to still...True shepherds know The NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES gives GLORY TO OUR Father.
---char on 9/11/08


Rhonda- I read the Bible . It is the word of God. I know many Catholics that do the same.
No Jesus = no Catholic church.
The blessed Mother does not give us salvation. It is clear.
Without Jesus we are nothing- dead!
That is clear.
Statues are not gods nor due they sub for Him the Eternal Father and our Lord Jesus Christ the King.
That is clear.
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

I do. so I am saved as many other Catholics I know.
---paul on 9/11/08


frances008: "As for me, I know the shepherd's voice, and I know the devil's voice. If in doubt I check up to see which one corresponds to the Word."

You do? The Word of God says not to get caught up in conspiracies, but you spread discontent among Christians by spreading such tales. Out of one side of your mouth you say things that are Biblical, but out of the other side you speak heresy. Read carefully Ephesians 4:11-16. For your eternal life's sake, repent of your error to God and walk the right path towards the Kingdom of God.
---Steveng on 9/10/08


MIC/MC...There were 2 people that I worked with in my office (who are now former employees) and one other person who is the wife of one of those employees (and raised in Buddhism), whom I witnessed to (not only did I talk the talk, but I also walked the walk daily) and then I also invited them to church. All three of those people have received Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior and have been water baptized and now are born-again Christians. You stated in a post to me that I was the "blind leading the blind". Well all three of these people WERE BLIND but now they SEE! I am not telling you all this to toot my own horn, but for you to see what true Christianity is all about.
---Holly4jc on 9/10/08


It is not an article of faith for RCC to believe in Lourdes, Fatima, and Guadalupe. However the comments made by Pope Paul II who attributed his escape from an assassin's bullet on May 13, 1981 to Our Lady of Patima. In 1981, appraritions of "Our Lady" were reported in the town of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, here she indentified herself as "Queen of Peace." As required a bishop was notified. Bishop Zanic and he concluded that he caught the Fransiscans making clear fabrications and that the healings and miracles were falsely exaggerated. According to Zanic, all apparitions must be denounced as invalid, or they will ultimately bring scandal and disgrace upon the Church. Here is one honest guy.
---Mark_V. on 9/10/08




I like your phrase Mic, the blind leading the blind. It reminds me of the RCC. Those who are in leadership are blind to the real truth of Scripture. And they are leading the rest of the blind. Very true Mic. Thanks for the insight. I knew you would change sooner or later. Welcome to the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 9/10/08


**
If I am giving up anything.
It would be the Bible, not Jesus.
**

How sad the depths of programming the brainwashing where rcc believes the bible is apart from Christ

rcc worships another spirit

give up Gods Holy Word contained in his bible you have NOTHING

Christ IS THE WORD of Gods Holy Bible and it is by HIS Word and truth TRUE Christians live ...true Christians are free to serve Christ

rcc is in bondage to "her" submitting their minds and wills to another flesh and blood man they are brainwashed into believing their traditions are greater than God Almighty
---Rhonda on 9/10/08


TRUTH 'I work with a bunch of them Pagans"retort in truth "By their fruit you shall know them "Blind leading the blind shall both fall in the PIT"
---MIC on 9/8/08


MY GOD, I believe, I adore, I trust, and I love Thee! I ask pardon for for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not trust and do not love Thee.--Paul on 9/5/08

Sorry Nicole...but someone saying "my god" still does not mean it's the one and only true God. Even pagans refer to "god", I work with a bunch of them. The Bible says that satan comes as an angel of light...there's your answer.
---Holly4jc on 9/8/08


Nicole, you cannot have two shepherds. Who is your shepherd, Jesus or his replacement on earth? Only once answer is acceptable to God. As for me, I know the shepherd's voice, and I know the devil's voice. If in doubt I check up to see which one corresponds to the Word.
---frances008 on 9/8/08


Frances:I read your open heart with great sorrow.because of your words,"I was able to differentiate between going to church for God or others?.Who are these others?How about going to church to strenghten the bond of Love in thanksgiving to know You had a friend in Jesus.To leave Him is to break that friendship.Then after "swearing" for several Months,I knew I was being punished by The devil"B/C I was "PRAYING"!Where does it say in scripture that the devil Punishes.Then the final stroke of devils trickery "This was iniated by the Holy spirit and I discovered it was the RCC driving it on.The final signature The UNholy spirit,MASQUERADING leads you away, like a lost sheep to the fires of destruction."
---MIC on 9/8/08


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This chaplet of divine mercy is very efficacious and used to great advantage,to bring sinners to His divine Heart.It is sad but true that there are many Ravenous wolves in sheeps clothing. "My God I believe, I trust , I Adore ,and love thee,I ask pardon for those who do not Believe who do not adore,do not trust,and do not love thee"
---MIC on 9/8/08


Nicole, I know who I am, and haven't forgotten who I was. I was a goat, following the teachings of the RCC. I believed in them, trusted in them. I thought if I got baptized and ate the flesh of Christ every Sunday, it would take care of my salvation. I believed that if I picked a saint that I could show my devotion to, that would also help me. If I read the rosary and had faith in the virgin Mary what else would I ever need. I had what you might call, a false sense of security. One day I found myself in great need of Christ. All the teachings and rituals could not help me. Only Christ could fill that void in my heart. I begged Him for His help, and He came into my life. Only Christ could achieve all of my needs. Everything else was a lie.
---Mark_V. on 9/8/08


Holly- it is clear it's Jesus. Cause the other 2 prayers the angel said was.
O MY JESUS, forgive us our sins, save us from the fire of Hell,lead all souls to Heaven, especially those who are most in need of Thy mercy.
and
MOST Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I adore Thee profoundly.
I offer Thee the Most Precious Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ etc...
And yes the RRC does test the spirit as the Bible says to do.
---paul on 9/8/08


"god" was this angel referring to?..keeping the people who believe those messages on a path that doesn't lead to the one and only true God, but leads them into false worship...as this Fatima thing has done.--Holly4jc on 9/6/08

MY GOD, I believe, I adore, I trust, and I love Thee! I ask pardon for for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not trust and do not love Thee.--Paul on 9/5/08


Paul, I guess you got your answer, before Holly4jc even responsed to you.

She is the one who is part of 'those':
who do not BELIEVE, do not ADORE, do not TRUST and do not LOVE.

The Angel knew why he had to teach the 3 children this simple, but strong Prayer. For Holly.
---Nicole on 9/8/08


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Mic, I left the Catholic church due to many reasons. I was able to differentiate between going to church for God and for others - thus I hung on to my Catholic beliefs. In 2004 I had a profound spiritual experience, which was initiated by the Holy Spirit and had me housebound for several months. I spent the time swearing to discover the truth as soon as I recovered. I knew that I was being punished by the devil because I was 'prying'. Like Jerry warned me on the Prove God exists blog. I had had many warnings to not interfere with the NWO plans. However, I ignored all warnings because I believe the NWO is too evil to condone. I discovered that the RCC were the main engine driving it on.
---frances008 on 9/7/08


A BIG AMEN Mark V!
---Holly4jc on 9/7/08


MarkV, I think you have forgotten what you are. You are a sheep, not a lion. You are NOT suppose to leave the FOLD. You and many others have wondered off and you are trying to get me to the same. No thanks.

Give it up. It isn't working. I am obedient to Jesus.
Study John 10
His Voice I follow.
I won't leave Jesus and follow your voice.
Go and fight the beasts on your own.
This is what you want. INDEPENDENCE!

I will stay with the Shepherd. I know I am only a sheep and helpless.
All I can do is to remain in the sheepfold The RCC.
My Jesus is my Shepherd. I will obey and follow Him as He wishes not as I wish.
---Nicole on 9/7/08


Steveng, as I told MarkV, Study John 10.
He tells of another parable of a lost sheep in Luke. What does the man do when he finds the lost sheep? He REUNITES the sheep to the sheepfold. Luke 15:4-7

I will say it again.
You do not know what you are asking of me.
I don't need a choice. But, if I did. I would indeed pick the Church.

Which came first the Chicken or the Egg? The Chicken did.
Adam and Eve first
The Jewish people before the Torah.
Jesus started the Church before the Bible.

Study Matthew 23:16-22
..which is greater, the gold or the temple that made the gold sacred?...which is greater, the gift, or the alter that makes the gift sacred?...

You do not know what you are asking!
---Nicole on 9/7/08


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Nicole, my brother read the bible five times, I don't know if it had the footnotes or not. But he is an agnostic. Reading the Bible many times does not make someone save. It is the Holy Spirit who brings light to the Word of God, which testifies to the infallible word of God that Jesus is the Christ. And that believing in Him can only come through the power of the Holy Spirit. Without the Holy Spirit there is no spiritual discernment. What you lack is understanding the Word of God. Head knowledge means nothing without the Spirit. The RCC does not distribute the Holy Spirit, God does. God gets all the glory.
---Mark_V. on 9/7/08


All religious cults claim to speak on behalf of God, and many claim authentication based on visions or the presence of signs and wonders performed among them. But miracles alone are not sufficient. The message from the one who is performing the miracles must be in accord with God's revealed will. God warned the people always about deception. The messages that tell us to pray the rosary to the blessed virgin Mary, do penance, and have devotion to her are not biblical for they cannot be found in Scripture. Paul warned us in Gal. 1:18,19, "Even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned. .."
---Mark_V. on 9/6/08


But Paul...which "god" was this angel referring to? People who worship satan call him their god. Many people worship false gods and just because they use the term "god" it doesn't mean Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The Bible says that satan comes as an angel of light. That's how the Mormon religion got started...with an angel visitation giving false doctrine/messages. Did Fatima test the spirit as the Bible says to do or did she just assume that it was a spirit from God? Satan will send deceivers to give false messages that sound really holy with the purpose of keeping the people who believe those messages on a path that doesn't lead to the one and only true God, but leads them into false worship...as this Fatima thing has done.
---Holly4jc on 9/6/08


"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars." (Luke 21:25)

The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders... (2 Thess. 2:9-10)

So which prophecy did the "Miracle of the Sun" fulfill? The answer is easy not just because Christ specifically foretold it, and not just because we have no evidence that Satan can move the sun, but also because Mary gave us true prophecies, like: "Russia will spread her errors throughout the world." And also because Christ gave us His Church, which has full authority to bind and loose the faithful, and the Church has declared the Fatima apparitions "worthy of belief".
---Luke65 on 9/6/08


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Frances:-I to, do not understand you as a former Catholic.Maybe you can really tell us the truth why "you left The same Jesus" to worship him on other terms, in a different denomination and not the way He says in Catholocism.The action is called Apostating.I do not desire to be offensive just enquiring?
---MIC on 9/5/08


MIC, no idea what your post meant. Could you put it into simple language for me? The (true or untrue) was accreditted to me, but I never included those words.
---frances008 on 9/5/08


the angel appeared at Fatima too...and said
MY GOD, I believe, I adore, I trust, and I love Thee! I ask pardon for for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not trust and do not love Thee.

Would the devil Love God? and say it?
Or do you think this is the devil's angel worshiping him as god?
---paul on 9/5/08


Just look!
Who is talking here?
That the mother of my Lord
HeOrShe

Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb, and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
Luk 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
Luk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Luk 10:42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

Luk 12:12 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
---Frank on 9/5/08


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MIC/MC...no God fearing, born again of the Spirit of God would recite the rosary...not even once. Not even 1/2 of once...
---Holly4jc on 9/4/08


MIC ... I remember Lupe ... he just disappeared from here.
I was rather fond of him, although we disagreed on one particular issue
---alan_of_UK on 9/4/08


'When I was a catholic I saw Catholicism as a department of Christianity"(true or untrue) Frances.3/9/08.Very commendable But different departments have different Rules and are always at variance to the Head Office Gods word Matt16:13-19, which has its method of correcting but they still quibble.Does that make it Right? A house divided against itself cannot stand.In any walk of life this is a rule of thumb.which came First Christ or the reformation.who therefore is the child?when children do not act according to the rule it is called Rebellion orDisobedience.what did God do with His disobedient children Adam and Eve.Are you ready Frances?
---MIC on 9/4/08


Mima:- Do yourself a favour just for fun of it to prove to yourself, its fake or Blasphemy recite the rosary daily for a month in your spare time.in between your attempts at evangelising.see the result.You will be surprised,Remember Lupe?
---MIC on 9/3/08


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Nicole, there is 'one Lord, one faith, one baptism'. This is from the apostle Paul's letter to the Ephesians. You would divide the body of Christ and call it 'your church not my church' etc. The Church belongs to Jesus Christ. Nobody is attacking 'your' church but the things that they collectively think. You yourself , however, seem to think (admit) that Catholicism is separate and distinct from Christianity. When I was a Catholic I never thought of it like that. I saw Catholicism as a department of Christianity. Now I see how wrong I was. The people can still be saved by God even without them leaving. They would be better off leaving, but you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. (It seems).
---frances008 on 9/3/08


2Co 10:16 To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man's line of things made ready to our hand.
2Co 10:17 But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
2Co 10:18 For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth.

Heb 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

Why do people think they can correct believe in the lord?
I think this is clear!

Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
---Frank on 9/4/08


Nicole: "...I defend my Church."

When one defends one's church, you exclude all others.

"As for your one year Sabbatical, NO!
You don't know what you are asking me to do.
You are asking me to take one year away from Jesus."

I know exactly what I'm asking you to do - develop a stronger relationship with God without infecting your thoughts with religion.

"If I am giving up anything.
It would be the Bible, not Jesus."

Even the godly people and prophets of the OT meditated on the word of God.
---Steveng on 9/3/08


Steveng, when have I started the attack against someone's Church?
As you said, I defend my Church.
I have many times already read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, all 73 books, without footnotes or additional information.

As for your one year Sabbatical, NO!

You don't know what you are asking me to do.
You are asking me to take one year away from Jesus.
From receiving HOLY COMMUNION, the Euchrist. Being obedient to Jesus by eating His Body and Drinking His Blood for Eternal Life.

That like if I told you not to read your Bible for a year. Would you do this?

If I am giving up anything.
It would be the Bible, not Jesus.

Anyway I will hear the Bible fully every 3 years during the Holy Mass.
---Nicole on 9/2/08


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Nicole:
You're trying to strongly defent a man-made religion (almost to the point of hating all others), as are all man-made religions whether they are Catholics, Methodist, Lutherans, Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses (etc.) each having their own traditions, ways of living, and Bible interpretations.

If you are not afraid to do so, take a one year sabbatical from all religions for one year. Read the Bible from beginning to end without using commentaries, Christian dictionaries, author's opinions, novels (like the Left Behind series), or any other resource - just you, the Bible, and the Holy Spirit. Oh, and read the Bible through the eyes of a child. And don't pay attention to the verse numbers. The light of truth will shine.
---Steveng on 9/2/08


Oh! I get it! Not only Thought Police, but Emotion Police. We are not allowed to hate anything, even evil. Thanks for clearing it up, Steveng. I will go around loving evil and see how for that gets me. Didn't someone who wrote books of the N. T. say he hated the Nicolaitans. (I wonder if they connect with the Catholics and the separation of laity from priests.) Did not Jesus get angry with good reason and throw out the money exchangers from the Temple whilst holding a big whip? I am no longer allowed anger at the works of the devil.
---frances008 on 9/2/08


frances008: "I hate the RCC, but I love most Catholics,..."

Hate is hate whether you hate the religion and love the people, or love the religion and hate the people, or hate the religion and hate the people. If you have hate in your heart, God is not there.
---Steveng on 9/2/08


I hate the RCC, but I love most Catholics, even those who know they are working for the devil. I hate what the RCC has done over history, its control of information, its wars, the way it divides families, the plans of the RCC, the current suffering in a million ways that mankind is suffering from the power of the RCC, as known by the power of the Black Pope. How can anyone have anything but hate for this monstrous creation of men? As for Catholics, I would do anything to convert them to Christ because they would realize that works are unnecessary, and will be destroyed by the fire instead of which they think works are the way to Heaven.
---frances008 on 9/2/08


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**
The hate is eating you up inside.
You are depressed. Find out your source of hate for the RCC.
**

Nicole you poor dear sweet lost soul you are so brainwashed it is beyond words I personally do not hate a "building" it has no bearing on my life

I live for Christ and DEFEND his Truth which rcc does not have ...if you perceive "hate" then your source for this HATE you are feeling is from God The Father ...remember God HATES all things heathen condeming it ALL throughout scripture ...but you and those within your "her" cannot see you have submitted your minds and wills to a flesh and blood man

I pray someday you are released from the bondage of "her"
---Rhonda on 9/2/08


What does a lady of fat time have to do with Christ and Christianity?
---Eloy on 9/1/08


Luk 2:19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.

Luk 2:51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.

Luk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Joh 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

Joh 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
Joh 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

All she did was ask!
---Frank on 9/1/08


Rhonda, stop with your poems.
It just shows you are clueless.

Name the Mysteries of the Rosary.
Oh yes, I forgot you do not know them.
But, you still want to put in your blank opinions on the matter.

Can you not debate with substance?
Can you not reason and come back with data to support your words?

Life is too short for all the hate you have in your heart.
The hate is eating you up inside.
You are depressed. Find out your source of hate for the RCC. Deal with it's root so you can move on.

You do know that the Holy See isn't even aware of your hate to them?
What's the point?
Who is hurting?

You or the RCC?
---Nicole on 8/31/08


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**
Calm down. You are getting upset over lies.
You don't even know about the Rosary.
Vain repetitions? This proves you are clueless.

You are mediating on the 20 mysteries of JESUS!!!
So, mediation on Jesus is vain?
**

And so it goes ...clueless minds are ones submitting minds and wills to flesh and blood human ...to worship Christ in Truth ones mind must be free from bondage ...not drowning in heathen repetitive babblings

VAIN repetitions whether one calls it mediation or creates another "term" it's still repeating in VAIN ...Gods Holy Word calls it HEATHEN and HE tells us he doesnt hear Matt 6:7

led away by the god of this world believing lies about Fatima WILL PERISH in their idolatry
---Rhonda on 8/31/08


Have you ever located the WORD ROSARY in the Holy Bible? Or pray to the beads in HAIL MARY? Vain repetitions. To the wrong person?
---Whisper on 8/29/08
Luke chapter 1-3.

Calm down. You are getting upset over lies.
You don't even know about the Rosary.
Vain repetitions? This proves you are clueless.

You are mediating on the 20 mysteries of JESUS!!!
So, mediation on Jesus is vain?

The problem with the Rosary are people like you who speak about it with no knowledge about the subject.

Check your data before you start talking about something.
Don't Judge as Jesus said.
Are you a Christian?
---Nicole on 8/30/08


Have you ever located the WORD ROSARY in the Holy Bible? Or pray to the beads in HAIL MARY? Vain repetitions. To the wrong person? Oh my goodness, as I continue learning about these things I get mad at the ATROCITIES and LIES leading the MASSES TO HELL, as the Devil is laughing his head off, as wide is the road that leads to destruction and narrow is the road that leads to eternal life and few there be that find it.
---Whisper on 8/29/08


The RCC today preaches the same teachings as were taught in the first 2 centuries. If anyone is preaching "another gospel" it is the modern-day Pharisees who attack the RCC. Try reading the writings of Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp, Irenaeus and other early Church Fathers (not commentaries on them - they lie and bluff - hoping you won't read the actual writings). BTW, the Rosary is about Mary the eternal evangelist leading people to Jesus.
---Greyrider on 11/7/07


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Lisa - (" The RRC preaches the Gospel at every service.") -- You obviously have never heard the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and Him crucified being preached. If you had, then you would not claim that the RCC does preach it. The RCC has "another Jesus, another gospel" (Galatians 1:7-9). The RC's ministers are also "angels of light" (2Corinthians 11:13-15). If you really did KNOW Jesus, then you would also know this.
---Helen_5378 on 11/1/07


Luk 17:22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see [it].


Luk 17:23 And they shall say to you, See here, or, see there: go not after [them], nor follow [them].

following apparitions is setting you up for the anti-christ
---Andrea on 10/31/07


Those are the 15 Promises to Those who faithfuly recite the Rosary. She gave the children three secrets and taught them how to say the Rosary. She warned them if people did not repent and cease offending God who was already much offended of chastisements that would occur. She predicted a sign that would occur before the 2nd world war, persecutions of The Church and the Holy Father and they have come to pass as she said. Jesus did not appear to thousands after his resurrection
---janet on 10/31/07


Emcee...you sure do like to read into scriptures and add things that are not there and spin a tale around a few little words. I must admit...you do it very well...you must be a great story teller! Of course I do not believe any of it...but it is rather amusing and very creative on your part.
---Holly4jc on 10/31/07


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Do we listen, to all, jesus said or do we pick choose & interpret his word our WAY. JN.19:26-27 "Woman here is your son, Here is your Mother"The disciples already had mothers yet Mary understood & to this day obeys her God, Her saviour, Her son Jesus christ.Would that we did the same.
---Emcee on 10/30/07


Do we listen, to all, jesus said or do we pick choose & interpret his word our WAY. JN.19:26-27 "Woman here is your son, Here is your Mother"The disciples already had mothers yet Mary understood & to this day obeys her God, Her saviour, Her son Jesus christ.Would that we did the same.Mima heed the words of Mary you may some day make a retraction.
---Emcee on 10/30/07


Mary did not appear to anyone. However, Jesus did appear to thousands after HIS death.
---Susie on 10/30/07


Mary has NOT appeared. We are to believe by faith and obey because Jesus tells us to. Our Pastors and teachers of the Word also tell us to obey. God does not send Mary to tell anyone anything. She is dead.
---Holly4jc on 10/30/07


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Susie, amen. If everyone followed that advice, Mary would not need to appear.
---lorra8574 on 10/30/07


AMEN Susie!!!!
---Holly4jc on 10/30/07


Stop listening to what Mary was supposed to have said in a vision and start listening to what JESUS said. He is the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through HIM.
---Susie on 10/29/07


helen? said- The RCC is FULL of heresy and lies from the pits of hell. There is not one single thing that the RCC teaches that is of God.

You have so much hate for people who Love the Lord!! You can not possibly be a true Christian! Especially the lies you post on this website! Stop being one of those self righteous Christians. The RRC preaches the Gospel at every service.
Helen! Get behind me satan!!!
---Lisa on 10/27/07


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She said this prayer " Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins and save us from the fires of hell and lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of they Mercy!"

not blasphemy!
She says " Read your Bible...keep it out where you can see it..Love God...and Pray pray pray!
---Lisa on 10/27/07


RitaH, here is something else to ponder. You have acknowledged that the angels do travel betwix Heaven and Earth (as is mentioned in the Bible) and they give messages. Do you accept that they still do? Mary was heralded by an angel at Fatima, and angels have also been appearing on their own. The warning is to repent because the world has been sinning greatly. These events have occurred in the epicentres of horrific levels of evil and sin - providing the remedy which is Christ.
---lorra8574 on 10/26/07


RitaH, I said little, you would not for what we give to Mary is possibly more than many Protestants give to God. Many have a more "casual" approach. But the "little" honour we give to Mary is only a tiny fraction of the Glory we give to God. We worship God globally and constantly - with acts of prayer and worship being offered up both formally and informally throughout the day, every day, from across the whole earth - to God alone.
---lorra8574 on 10/26/07


RitaH, in Matthew, Jesus showed us proof positive that dead people can come too, if He wills it. Moses died before he was brought up, and Elijah may not have died first but he was taken up and therefore came back from the abode of the dead reserved for the saved. The Father spoke concerning the Son and the Son spoke with Moses and Elijah - this was no phantasm, but real.
---lorra8574 on 10/26/07


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Susie::A litle knowledge is a dangerous thing. By reciting the rosary we do not honour Mary, but we honour Marys request as by reciting her Psalter we actually focus on the mysteries on the life of our Divine creator as contained in the 4 gospels of Matt mark luke & John.Dont believe me but explore the truthin the recitation of the 4 consisting of a group of five in each mystery named Joyful sorrowful, luminous & glorious.
---Emcee on 10/26/07


Even though we all have our own beliefs none of us are to judge, but the Bible says"Ye shalt not judge lest thee be judged". The Bible makes it clear how we are to become saved, and that is by acceptance of God's Son Jesus. But we can tell by action who is a Christian and who is not. Jesus said "Love thy neighbor as you love yourself", and I pray everyone starts doing just that.
---Victoria on 10/26/07


Mima::You delight im washing Laundry, Try useing the Soap of love and understanding to make your whites whiter & your Brights brighter.what you do not know you will never understand.But will be the detriment to your voracious appetite for Ridicule.If you learn to say the Rosary with Fervour you may have a change of Heart inspite of your shortcomings.Go for it like Lupe you may change.
---Emcee on 10/26/07


The unity of Christ and the church is recognizes in the fact that persecutions against Christians are labeled as blasphemous acts. 1 Tim. 1:13. 1 Pet. 4-4 and Rev. 2-9. Note not same as the unforgiven sin which blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. >>>It is also an attitude of disrespect that finds expression in an act directed against the character of God. It also includes actions against Christ, as you will see in the NT. I would have to say that up above you mentioned could be considered as such. Yes.
---catherine on 10/26/07


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Lorra "Instead of complaining about what little honour we give to the mother of Our Lord, When did I say that?? I actually said the opposite - that she is given too much honour, not too little. And, yes, angels can 'travel' between Heaven and earth but angels are not dead people, they are a totally different creation of God.
---RitaH on 10/26/07


RitaH, Mary did ask all of these things at Fatima. The Church, in keeping with the scriptures did test Fatima and found it to be worthy of belief. We Catholics are not required to believe it, but it does not teach anything contrary to the scriptures. Mary often asks us to do something that the Bible alreadly requires of us. She only broke it down into bite size tasks. We are not required to do any of this to be saved. We are even required to believe that she appeared.
---lorra8574 on 10/25/07


RitaH, P2: But her message is a reminder that we should be doing as her Son asked a long time ago. She is not setting herself up as "god", she promises to assist with graces, but we need to be in a position to accept them as well. But the neat thing is, if we do what we should be doing according to the Bible, which is what she asks, then we will be Saved, not through her, but through her Son, Christ Jesus.
---lorra8574 on 10/25/07


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