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Will The Dead Be Raised

To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord so why is it said that at the coming of the Lord the dead in Christ shall rise to be with Him? What is left to raise? Are our glorified bodies make from our old ones? If not, why would dead people be raised up?

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 ---carol on 10/25/07
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In John 12:24 we read, that like a grain of wheat, the body must first fall into the ground and die before it will bring forward fruit. The resurrection is prophesied in the o.t. Ezekiel 37:1-14+ Daniel 12:2. Lit. Gk: "And blessed them Simeon, and said to Mariam that mother of him, Here, this laid onto fall and eternal resurrection of many in whom Israel, and onto a sign spoken against." Luke 2:8. Please Read- II Corinthians 5:10.
---Eloy on 12/14/07


Matthew 27:52-53 (KJV)
And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, [53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

If this happened after Christ resurrection with the Old Test, saints,and it did,then it will happen again at the rapture. One might also read i Cor. 15 for further proof.
---Tommy on 12/13/07


"We are confident, [I say] willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord " The only word in 2Cor.5:1-9 that references the corporeal physical body is the word "tabernacle". The word body as it is utilized in this chapter is "our house" of this tabernacle and refers to man's mental disposition. Used in the same way that the term "body of sin" in Rom.6:6 >Col.2:11 and "Body of this death" in Rom.7:24 are used. Cont..
---Josef on 11/2/07


Pt.4 (For we [are to] walk by faith, not by sight.) Therefore whether we are resting contently in the flow of His set apart course for our lives, or whether we find ourselves laboring through our own efforts, we make it our goal to please Him, that we may be accepted of Him. However we must always remember, it is He that works in us both to will and to do His good pleasure.
---Josef on 11/2/07


Pt.4 For we walk by faith, not by sight. Therefore whether we are resting contently in the flow of His set apart course for our lives, or whether we find ourselves laboring through our own efforts, we make it our goal to please Him, that we may be accepted of Him. Remember, It is He that works in us to will and do His pleasure. The carnal Corinthians failed understand Paul's words from the depths of his spirit, so it became necessary for them that he spoke to them in a way that they could understand.
---Josef on 11/2/07




Pt.3 ,,, that we have available to us a place of rest in Him. One that is not and can not be created in our own power or force of will, for it is available only in a submitted state of mind that has been lifted above the sensual. The LORD abides within His chosen, His promise to us is that He will not leave nor forsake us. As our mind is opened to Him, we abide in Him, thus present with Him. However if we choose to be led by the carnal dictates of our senses we neglect our rest in His presence. Cont..
---Josef on 11/2/07


Pt.2 The earthly house of this tabernacle is the natural mentality man abides in from birth. What is being discussed is the carnality of man verses the mindset of Christ, or a mind opened to abiding in the Word of God by faith. To abide in the LORD is to abide in His principles and promises with complete confidence regardless of the sensual dictates of our human experience. A building from God refers to His confirmation through the indwelling presence of His Spirit.. Cont...
---Josef on 11/2/07


While those that have died in Christ are present with him, they have yet to complete the resurrection of their bodies. Paul states that when Christ comes back at the Rapture, those that have died before then will he bring with him. Paul states that we shall be changed, not from here to there, but our bodies, in the twinlking or an eye. Christ was the first fruits of the resurrection, and raised the Old Test. saints after his resurrection and took them with him into Heaven, as we will as well.
---Tommy on 10/26/07


Except a seed die and then fall into the ground and live, so it is with us.

The scriptures throughout teach even present immortality of the soul and spirit Bible writers made many references to a future resurrection judgment, and life beyond the grave for both the righteous and the wicked in body, soul and spirit .

Job 19
Ps. 16
Isa 26
Dan 12
Matt. 6
Matt 10
Mark 9
Luke 16
Are just a few references that speak of this.
---Whisper on 10/26/07


Carol...a new name I haven't seen here...hi > it says "absent" from the body, so I can see the body's remains stay, but our spirits go absenteaing(o: Also, consider how Paul could be "absent in the flesh" from the Colossians, yet "in spirit" (Colossians 2:5), he says, "For though I am absent in the flesh, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the steadfastness of your faith in Christ."
---Bill_bila5659 on 10/25/07




I always thought we go to be with Christ at death but we get our incorruptible bodies at judgment, this would be when we are raised in incorruption

Hbr 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses,...

1Cr 15:42 So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption:
2Cr 5:8 We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
---Andrea on 10/25/07


A very insightful question. At death our bodies go into graves. At the coming of the Lord(in the clouds his feet do not touch the earth this first time). Our spirits which were with the Lord go into our bodies which will be raised from the graves, then we'll be changed in the twinkling of an eye. And then we are to ever be with the Lord. 85 words is very short to tell what is going to happen at the glorious resurrection of the righteous. Often called the rapture.
---Mima on 10/25/07


The initial premise of the question is not scriptural:

**To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord...**

Our glorified bodies are from Heaven, "In my Father's house are many houses."

Christ came to redeem souls and souls are what will be raised from their sleep on the great and gloriuos day of the coming of the Lord Christ Jesus.
---Ryan_Z on 10/25/07


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