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Judgement On California

Concerning California Wild Fires Today! Do you think God is sending warning and judgement, do to this being the "national headquarters of sin". Do you beleive if they return again, the state will have a final earthquake and fall into the sea?

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What??? That is hilarious!!! The fires happen every year due to the Santa Anna winds. And where do you get the idea Cali is the "national headquarters of sin"? Especially when you consider cities like Washington D.C., Las Vegas, New Orleans and other bastions of sinful behaviour. I am a Californian, born and bred, and there are wonderful people here. Every state has sinful and God fearing people.
---Ryan_Z on 11/17/08


Mary, cont.....Maybe Achan's wife and kids somehow knew and went along with the sin, but the Bible does not say for certain. But, a better analogy is when the Wise Men told King Herod of the Birth of the future King of Israel, the Messiah YAHUSHUA, king Herod became threatened and jealous and had every INNOCENT hebrew male child MURDERED who were two years old and under. All because of one man's insecurity and pride (king Herod).
---Gordon on 11/16/07


Mary, cont.......The opposite is true, too. Jesus Christ (YAHUSHUA), Who was Perfectly sinless and did NO WRONG to anyone. Who did only GOOD to everyone He met, was MURDERED by the very people He came to Save. Was that right? GOD, through His modern-day Judgements, as in California, is showing us that sin is REPUGNANT to Him and that the sin ALWAYS births forth negative consequences as a natural result. If Gov. Arnold wants to make immoral laws and if people in general will not speak up AGAINST it...
---Gordon on 11/16/07


Mary, cont............If people will not speak out against such "politically correct" but damaging laws, then GOD sees that as CARELESS INDIFFERENCE on the part of the masses. And, therefore, He will bring Judgement as HE sees fit. This Country of the United States should not be so arrogant as to believe that they are "above" GOD's Judgements. He allowed Israel to be destroyed in 70 A.D. for her sins. He'll do the same to this Country. He set this Country up and He can bring it down.
---Gordon on 11/16/07


Mary, My apologies for not answering you sooner. I don't have much time on the computer each day. But, to address your question from 29 Oct. 2007, as to why the innocent suffer for one man's guilt, here are some relative situations: Read Joshua 7. The hebrew man Achan stole some booty from a defeated enemy after the Lord GOD previously FORBADE anyone to collect any booty after this particular battle. As sometimes He would have His people do so after giving His people the victory in a battle.
---Gordon on 11/16/07




Mary, cont...Before Achan stole the "goods" Israel had been defeating her enemies by the LORD's Hand. AFTER he stole they began to lose their battles. Many men died as a result. Joshua asked the LORD why they were suddenly losing. The LORD replied that someone in the camp had sinned. Joshua found out who it was and Achan, his wife and children ALL had to be stoned to death by the LORD's Command. All because of ONE MAN'S sin. His wife and children had to also die as a result.
---Gordon on 11/16/07


"He maketh the rain to fall on the just and the unjust". Apparently southern Cal. doesn't fall into either category, because it can't get a drop of rain this year.
---steve on 11/2/07


Jack: Was that audibly?
---Whisper on 11/2/07


**Now, I want to tell you, from your fellow Californian, and high level prophet living in your neck of the woods what God is speaking today.**

Dr. Whisper, God told me to tell you He didn't say any such thing!
---Jack on 11/2/07


if He were going to start judgment He'd have burnt down the churches first.
---Andrea on 10/26/07

I agree
---Tom on 11/1/07




God chastens ALL whom He loves. Sometimes men will not look up for God until they have nothing and noone else to turn. Yet, this should not mean that those in Christ will avoid all woe. He said "In this world you will have trouble" Not all woe is for the guilty sometimes it is on the Saint to test his mettle and to bear witness to others. Job is a great example. We should not be quick to judge crisis that come on anyone. Do these fires get peoples attention toward God? Some yes and some no.
---TS on 11/1/07


** Whisper, you say "....Another prophet says that before the year 2008 California will have a major earthquake and then fall into the sea".**

If this doesn't happen, is this proof that Whisper listens to false prophets?

We have another 61 days.
---Jack on 11/1/07


CORRECTION: A little boy started one of the fires---not all of them.

And can someone explain to me the "irony" in that. Little boys with matches have started a lot of fires every since matches were invented.

What so unusual about that?

And are some of you here implying that the actions of the Govenor or the people in this state invited a visitation of the wrath of God on this state and the fires were the result?

Oh, please...
---matthew on 11/1/07


Well,for 1 thing, I don't think Ca is the natl headquarters of sin. Look at New York,Nevada and many other places. However,God does control fires,hurricanes etal. These fires have not killed the nunbers of people that the hurricanes did or other earthquakes for that matter. I think judgement and warning is all around us.It is not about "THEM". It is about US. Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't apply.
---jody on 11/1/07


There is evil all over the world.
When God decides to do his judgeing we will have no doubt it is from Him.
---sue on 11/1/07


Gordon: Wow you bless me brother with the insights you have. When you said isn't it ironic that a young boy started the fire, That comment just BLEW ME AWAY...GOD IS AWESOME!!Holly, YOU ARE SOOOOOOO BLESSED!!!! God is dispatching angels of protection over you BIG TIME! I am sooo happy you are safe. And Irene, I am always hesitant to reveal a prophets name, because of the mockerys and backlashes they go through, They speak oracles of GOD, and endure much pain and ridicule.
---Whisper on 11/1/07


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Gordon,

If you reason is so weak as to believe this video, then you will believe anything.

This is nothing more than a publicity stunt, Hollywood style. It is a hoax being perpetuated on the non-discerning.

Either that or the man just can't separate reality from a bad dream.

Or maybe it was drugs?
---matthew on 11/1/07


Whisper, Amen, Amen! He IS Tremendous! He sent His Son Jesus (YAHUSHUA) to die and shed His Holy Blood on the Cross for us! What a GREAT Day it will be when we see Him Face to face in our Mansions in the New Jerusalem in Heaven! It's ironic that since children were the "targets" of Gov. Arnold's new "regulations" that a little child playing with matches had started the whole wild fire. Speaking of fire, have you seen Bill Wiese's Video? Check it out! YAHUVEH Bless you!!! :-D
---Gordon on 11/1/07


Many Christain brethren lost their homes in California. Many more Christains, and people of all faiths reached out to help those in need. Please don't insult them with this.

As far as more sinning going on in California, Yes---because more people live there. In fact most of the sins in this country are committed within 50 miles of an ocean. That's because 75% of the US population lives within 50 miles of the coast.


So what?
---matthew on 10/31/07


Yes, I believe NYC was singled out because the world was so radically changed. Our economy has had a dagger in its heart ever since. The towers were symbols of world posterity. The tsunami was judgment also as was Katrina. Maybe we should read Matt 24 and Luke 21 and compare these things.
---Larry on 10/30/07


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Well...I am very blessed...I lived in SW Miami Florida during Hurricane Andrew in 1992 and had NO damage to my apartment or car although everything around me was pretty destroyed. And now I live in eastern San Diego County in CA and the fires stopped short of the town I live in, they were to the north, east and south of me. Many towns around us had to evacuate, even the one right next to mine, but we did not have to. Thank you Jesus for protecting me!!! Both times!!!
---Holly4jc on 10/30/07


as I said there are many other states NEVADA and countries that have need of Gods judgement.too pick on any one certain state or country is opinions which fall near the realm of judgement,which should be left to God.sooooo many things are wrong in this world too imply that one is worse than the other is not a good christian attitude.PRAY FOR ALL OF THEM.
---tom2 on 10/30/07


Whisper, you say "....Another prophet says that before the year 2008 California will have a major earthquake and then fall into the sea".
Could you please tell us who this prophet is, and what kind of a record for prophecies that have come true has he? Thank you.
---Irene on 10/30/07


Gordon: For the past months I have been observing this Governor, I prayed daily about him, I was sickened in spirit at the atrositys, that he has been signing and favoring and calling NORMAL, infecting children etc. I could go on, I was wondering how God was going to deal with this enormous problem as I saw an infestation of evil, Man oh Man, Is God AMAZING! God knows how to obliterate evil, I think HIS show is just beginning.
---Whisper on 10/30/07


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I do not believe that God is singling out California because of sinful behaviors. Did he single out NYC and the twin towers on 9/11 or Oklahoma City or New Orleans or Pearl Harbor for all of those resident's sinful behaviors? NO--California has no more "sin" than any other place. There is just more focus on it because of the entertainment industry and the way it is presented by the media. And if that "sin" sells magazines or makes you watch a certain TV show the media will print it.
---TT on 10/30/07


If we in California are to fall into the sea, do you think Nevada with its Las Vegas should fall in with us?
---John1944 on 10/30/07


Mary, GOrdon doesn't answer questions. Instead he quotes Ephesians 4 and says to believe him on blind faith. He doesn't provide scripture to support his claims other than Ephesians 4, then he'll tell you to believe him because he is an annointed teacher. Wolf in sheeps clothing!!
---Ryan_Z on 10/30/07


Gordon, I indeed love the Lord and wish to listen to Him. However, you didn't answer my question--you still leave me wondering how all the people that suffered in the fires is punishment to the Governer?
---Mary on 10/30/07


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If you consider regular weather patterns to be "judgements." This line of thinking is absurd. I guess hurricanes must be "judgements" & the Santa Ana winds must be "judgements" & earthquakes must be "judgements." Trust me people the judgements that GOd lays day in the end days will be beyond the scope of regular weather patterns and tectonic plate movement. The judgements will be supernatural.
---Ryan_Z on 10/30/07


Gordon, you abuse Ephesians 4. You use it to say that you have no need to provide scripture for your claims because are a self-appointed, self-annointed teacher of God's word. Yor doctrines and theology are apostate and not founded in scripture. You abuse scripture, twisting it to fit your doctrines, I pity you.
---Ryan_Z on 10/30/07


Sue: You may not like religion. Neither do I.

You may not like having the knowledge of HELL either, but irregardless of your feelings.

It does not nullify the reality of it.
---Whisper on 10/30/07


Gordon, Amen. You are 100% correct. And I beleive for the reason you mentioned this thing has happened among others. I am NO prophet, though from time to time I am revealed something and it will match up quite often with what a prophet is speaking. One of my favorite prophets of this day is Kim Clement, but I know of many more like him, and they have not been wrong once.
---Whisper on 10/30/07


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Luke 13:2-2 (Modern application)

And Jesus answering said unto them, "Suppose ye that these Californians were sinners above all the Americans because they suffered such things? I tell you, Nay: but except ye repent, Kim Clement and ye people on these blogs, ye shall all likewise perish."
---Jack on 10/30/07


Rachel: I did not want to use his name on this websight, because I am very aware of all of the mockery and abuse hurling, that goes on with a prophetic Word, but I happen to very much respect Kim Clement, and this is HIS prophecy as I told every one here that he is a high level prophet, THIS IS NOT ''MY'' prophecy, I do not call myself PROPHETESS, I am relating what Kim Clement has spoken, you got it?
---Dr._Whisper on 10/30/07


Mary, Your response to Whisper is the EXACT reason I quote Ephesians 4:11-12 on this Website so much.So MUCH of the Church has NOT been taught to heed the Holy Prophets. And, YES! we are to seek guidance by the Holy Spirit in DISCERNING THE SPIRITS, etc. And there are MANY false prophets planted in the Church. But, WHERE does the skepticism END? GOD placed His Prophets within the Body of Christ (YAHUSHUA) for this purpose, to RELAY HIS CURRENT MESSAGES of Judgements or Whatever.
---Gordon on 10/30/07


Hi Gordon, assuming you're correct and it is because of their Governer, what about all the people that have lost their homes and even their lives or loved ones? How exactly does that punish the Governer?
---Mary on 10/29/07


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Dr. Whisper, I know Kim Clement.
If you are a prophetess, God can give you a word without copying someone elses.
---Rachel on 10/29/07


"There is an evacuation says the Spirit of God. There will be an evacuation of every lie, every past memory, and every traditional force that has tried to hold back the Spirit of God. Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.

I have expectancy that Jesus is not finished with California. God is not finished with California as many would say."
Kim Clement
---Rachel on 10/29/07


"God says to you California I've listened to your cry, I've listened to your words of fear. I love you, as I always have. In my hands, in my feet you will see the marks of love...God says I'm shaking the powers of hell so that you can understand freedom has come to California."

Kim Clement
---Rachel on 10/29/07


"Below is the synopsis of prophetic words regarding the present winds and fires in California." By Kim Clement
August 5th, 2007 - Beverly Hills, CA:

"Awaken, rise up for this Beverly Hills is but nothing. Who would take occupation of this territory? This is time for an evacuation. "
---Rachel on 10/29/07


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This is exactly why I dont like religion.
---sue on 10/29/07


Mary: I am not a prophet. This is a prophecy that was given to a high level prophet living in the state of California, The words that I have written below are the words directly given by GOD, not myself, so this is Gods Holy judgement, not mine. Another prophet, says that before the year 2008, California will will have a major earthquaqe and then fall into the sea. I am not speaking of Nostradamos, but a man who was given a prophecy on November 24th, 2005, which has yet to happen of course.
---Whisper on 10/29/07


Yes, I TOTALLY believe that these wild-fires were ALLOWED by GOD to happen as His Judgement. Tripped off by Governor Arnold's immoral decisions for the school kids. This guy is reaping a whirlwind. A short while ago, I thought he was being "conservative" but, that all went out the window with THIS. And, GOD ain't happy. This country ought not be so arrogant as to think GOD would "never Judge us".
---Gordon on 10/29/07


Only God knows if it is a judgment. Jesus, however, told us to be aware of the end-time signs.

60 minutes and PBS respectively ran news-pieces on honey bees last night. The bees are disappearing at an alarming rate. No honey bees = no vegetation. Is that a Judgment? Only God knows

It's getting harder and harder for man to live the easy life.
---Mr._Graham on 10/29/07


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Not to pick on you, Whisper--honest--but why do you call yourself a "high level prophet"? That seems rather prideful and causes me, personally, to be skeptical. Not just you, but I'm skeptical of anyone who claims to be a special prophet in some way.
---Mary on 10/29/07


NOVEMBER 10 IS THE THING OF REVELATIONS and THE NAAP IS HELPING NOVEMBER 10 COME TO LIFE. HELP THE NAAP! Help The National Association of the American People bring to Life Revelations and absolving this nation of its sins. it is based in california
---ellen on 10/28/07


well,then why hasn,t God burnt nevada too the ground? gambling,leagal prostitution,mofia central.we are in the wend days many things will happen before jesus returns.
---tom2 on 10/28/07


Whisper, if what you were saying is true, please explain how churches burned in the California fires, but the predominatly gay section of San Diego was left untouched.

Are you implying that God's aim is THAT bad?
---Jack on 10/28/07


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Something similar happened in Jesus's day:
(thanks Jack):

Luke 13:1-5
"1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices."
"2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?"
"3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."
---StrongAxe on 10/27/07


Luke 13:1-5 (part 2)
"4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?"
"5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."
---StrongAxe on 10/27/07


I can't help myself, but...lol...if Brittany Spears returns then yes, that is very likely. I'm sorry folks, that was the first thing that popped into my head. Just trying to lighten the mood here. Seriously though, We can't determine that because our thoughts are not God's thoughts. Hopefully one day we will have all our questions answered when we get to meet Jesus face to face. Won't that be a glorious day!!
---Angela on 10/27/07


Okay, first of all, there is no national headquarters of sin. Sin abounds all over the world, and it's all the same in God's eyes. Secondly, it's impossible for CA to drop into the ocean. It doesn't work that way. CA could break away from the continent yes, but it wouldn't be all in one foul swoop. It will take years to do this.
---kady on 10/27/07


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Satan is enjoying this ... to have people believe that God has sent a p,unishment upon such..dont believe it..God do not mess about as satan does..when He fights, its to the end no mess around..consider how He fought for the Israelites in the wilderness..He wiped all enemies outright no mess around..and we will know it..satan deceives
---jana on 10/27/07


Blessings Whisper, if you think about it there is sin everywhere in the world, which would include every state in the USA as well. As far as pointing fingers at California as being the national headquarters of sin, I believe from what I have learned in the word of God that we are all born sinners no matter where you live in this world. I agree with Robyn about studying Matt. chap 24. I also agree with Catherine about the devil working through these people who set some of these fires. God Bless!
---Cynthia on 10/26/07


You've said the right thing Michelle.

Whisper, if you were to ask Jesus this question, He'd probably say the same thing He said to people who asked him about the sinfulness of victims of industrial accidents in Luke 13.

"Do you think the people who perished and suffered loss in the California fires are the worst sinners in all the world? I tell you, they were not. But unless YOU repent, Whisper, YOU will likewise perish."
---Jack on 10/26/07


PART FOUR

a purging is taking place. The earth also has a voice and is reacting to violent abuse. He goes on to say that when God gives him a word it is like pieces of a puzzle coming together, later he was prophesying in Pasadena and again God spoke in a little more detail on August 19th, 2007,
Their is an evacuation, says the Spirit of God, There will be an evacuation of every lie, every past memory, and every traditional force, that has tried to HOLD BACK THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
---Dr._Whisper on 10/26/07


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PART FIVE

Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is Liberty, God is not finished with California. As many would say. God says to you California, I've listened to your cry, I've listened to your words of fear, I love you as I always have, In my hands, in my feet, you will see the marks of love, God says, I am shaking the powers of HELL, so that you can understand freedom has come to California. end of word.
---Dr._Whisper on 10/26/07


Dr. Rich: This is an HONEST question. Excuse my honesty frankly.

I wanted seriously to know what my fellow bloggers were thinking about this question as it is a current event that deserves our utmost attention at this time.

Now, I want to tell you, from your fellow Californian, and high level prophet living in your neck of the woods what God is speaking today.

PART ONE
---Dr._Whisper on 10/26/07


PART TWO: prophesy of August 5th, 2007

AWAKEN RISE UP. For this Beverly Hills is but nothing who would take occupation of this territory? This is a time for EVACUATION of every controlling force that would dare to utter that YESHUA has been expelled from the streets of Beverly Hills. NO! YESHUA is about to take to the streets of
Beverly Hills, "Says the LORD. Is this necessary in some of your minds for us to shout the NAME of the one that will raise the dead......
---Dr._Whisper on 10/26/07


Dr. Rich: This is an HONEST question. Excuse my honesty frankly.

I wanted seriously to know what my fellow bloggers were thinking about this question as it is a current event that deserves our utmost attention at this time.

Now, I want to tell you, from your fellow Californian, and high level prophet living in your neck of the woods what God is speaking today.

PART ONE
---Dr._Whisper on 10/26/07


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PART TWO: prophesy of August 5th, 2007

AWAKEN RISE UP. For this Beverly Hills is but nothing who would take occupation of this territory? This is a time for EVACUATION of every controlling force that would dare to utter that YESHUA has been expelled from the streets of Beverly Hills. NO! YESHUA is about to take to the streets of
Beverly Hills, "Says the LORD. Is this necessary in some of your minds for us to shout the NAME of the one that will raise the dead......
---Dr._Whisper on 10/26/07


PART THREE

The NAME of the one that will heal the sick, the NAME of the one that will bring the truth, the NAME of the one that will bring them down, And the NAME, OF THE HOLY SON OF GOD? Then during a time of prayer he wrote,

It is time for and evacuation, an evacuation of Los Angeles, and the regions that will need a discharge of waste material that is poisoning the body there will be an expulsion of dead religious establishments. God loves California, and therefore ......
---Whisper on 10/26/07


Satan started much of those fires, useing evil men. To the rest of your question, who knows? However, we must remember, God has a hand in EVERYTHING. Good or Bad.
---catherine on 10/26/07


This type of question is nonsense! But it does show how little people know about truth. If you think the fires here where I live are bad, just check out what God does bring upon the earth during the time of trouble. Lay up your treasures in heaven where fire and such can't destroy it! To do that you MUST search for and know the truth!
---Dr._Rich on 10/26/07


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Oh God can do better then that.

if He were going to start judgment He'd have burnt down the churches first.
---Andrea on 10/26/07


I would not concern myself too much with the Why's of these wildfires and God's judgement. No one knows the mind of God.According to Isaiah ch 55. I will continue to pray for these people and the devastation they are going through. We should be reading Matthew ch 24,these days. Staying watchful and prayerful.
---Robyn on 10/26/07


Repentance can turn Judgment away.
But waiting too long, God's timing is not ours. There is a timing in God, of crossing over the line of no return.

As Daniel and Nehemiah established in the Word, so must we, truly repent.
---Michelle on 10/26/07


Crucial decisions are being made in man's wisdom, in hopes of bringing about world peace.

If we see an absolute departure from Israel, it will be the road to our demise.
Judgment is sure - prepare.
---Michelle on 10/26/07


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A time of fasting and prayer, seeking God to know and understand the times. Not a prideful prayer.
God alone will decide if He will withdraw His decisions, but He promises to be a shelter in the storms for the those that repent.
---Michelle on 10/26/07


In the Bible, you will find there are warnings that give way to judgment.
First on the Church.
Then on the world.
God calls every man everywhere to repent.
---Michelle on 10/26/07


I think your posting says more what YOU think about California than what God thinks about the state.

Why is California intrinsically more sinful than Oregon, which has legalized euthanasia (medical murder)?

Bet you can't answer that one!
---Jack on 10/26/07


Warnings -
Sudden terror
Diseases
Animal attacks
Breaking of pride - exposing thievery, the false, counterfeits

Judgments

War
Pestilence
Famine
Earthquakes
Waste places
Economic collapse
---Michelle on 10/26/07


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When Judgment comes, you'll know it. God doesn't have any near misses with His targets.
Example: Katrina was not Judgment. Bourbon Street was left standing, intact and still there today. If God was judging, He wouldn't have missed. Poor planning does not constitute an emergency on God's behalf to prevent destructive weather patterns.

Poor planning on the all of the coasts, overcrowding, building homes on unstable hillsides, man's fault to build their foundations on sand.
---Michelle on 10/26/07


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