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I Want A Woman President

I would like a woman for president. Your thoughts, please.

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I replied that man and woman are always different, but my words did not get posted. Some of my replies do not get posted unless I write them again, things need to improve here so I will take a leave.
---Eloy on 11/7/07


Kella3336: "It is really sad that some women can't be content with God's plans..."

The first thing the Spirit said to me after reading your post was women is trying to be equal to man as Satan is trying to be equal to God - it just won't work. We are all equal when it comes to receiving the inheritance, but Scripture puts man and women in their places.

Praying you and yours peace of mind, joy of Spirit, good health, and many great friends to share them with.
---Steveng on 11/5/07


jody: "My thought is WHY? In the lord there is neither male nor female,greek nor jew. All are one in Christ."

We are all one when it comes to the inheritance. We must still to obey what is written in Scripture that a women shall not rule over man, that man is to rule over women as Christ is rule over man.
---Steveng on 11/5/07


If you vote pro-abort you have to answer for it.
---Andrea on 11/5/07


Eloy:: I didn't think you were alluding to Politics.I thought you were in Genesis as for Politics They are all tarred with the same Brush Of opportunity & Gain.Leave politics to Puppets for men & God to the true witnesses of His word.
---Emcee on 11/5/07




My thought is WHY? In the lord there is neither male nor female,greek nor jew. All are one in Christ. What is this fixation upon women. Some hate them others want them. why? We are to love everyone. I would suppose that you would want the best qualified candidate rather than a gender..what is wrong with this picture?
---jody on 11/5/07


Randy:First commandment. No other Gods before me.Being subject to you means, while she is your responsibility you will guide her with Godly wisdom,Protect her as God protects.She is your Companion, Not your slave.If she commits a sin at your bidding she is at fault for disobeying God BUT your sin is greater as you forced her to do wrong and the sin on you is greater, if not doubled,you usurped the trust placed by God in You.Hope This helps.
---Emcee on 11/5/07


The curse that man should have rule over the woman was about marriage as it was given for husbands and wives,however that doesn't mean if a man tells a wife to sin she should obey. There is a greater commitment than marriage and that is to God first and to obey His Word not man's. If a husband tells a wife to sin he is of the Devil and Satan doesn't have authority to tell God's people what to do. Obey,follow God first is all Christian's duty.
---Darlene_1 on 11/5/07


Emcee, I have asked this question before and no one seems to know the answer. If a man is over a woman does he become her god? Is she absolved from her sin if a man told her to do it? Does she pray through him to God since he has dominion over her? Who is responsible for her if she does not have a husband or male family members? I am just curious what you think.
---randy on 11/5/07


Steveng, I don't think you need to check your watch. It is really sad that some women can't be content with God's plans for them. And that some men who feel the same as do feminists. God bless
---Kella3336 on 11/5/07




Steveng, instead of checking our watches, how about checking out what God says...amen. Take care kella
---Kella3336 on 11/5/07


.emcee, Again, the man never ever told his woman to go disobey God, but the woman after she disobeyed God she went and told her man to also disobey God. So what message are leaders telling today? Obey God? OR are they saying, Disobey God and it is okay, because everybody does, and God will still love you no matter what? Do you see the 2 different messages? One message is from God, and the other message is from Satan: so which message did Adam give, and which message did the woman give?
---Eloy on 11/3/07


Eloy::God Created Man, Gave him authority over ALL living creatures including His EVE:His sin was He relenquished His responsibility in order to please his wife Eve His sin was Greater. But copped out by saying The woman you gave me,gave me to eat.You are explaining away your own responsibility.Admit the truth.
---Emcee on 11/2/07


.rita, Adam did not tell his wife to disobey God, but instead his beloved wife told him to disobey their God, therein is the sin. And because of this, the first humans have sin with the wages of it, and also this is passed on to their offspring they produced.
---Eloy on 11/2/07


No, weaker vessels are not to lead.
---Eloy on 11/2/07


randy - I do not know. But the Dems tried there hardest to discredit everyone. To the point they made themselves look spiteful and ridiculous. You see how great they are now.
The Reps are bad the Dems are worse if only bc they will continue the slaughter of millions of babies.
People wake up - there are babies dying every second and we think we can choose to vote to keep this crime.
---Andrea on 11/2/07


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My FAVORITE WOMAN on the face of the earth next to Mom was Margaret Thatcher, If ever their was a woman who could launch a thousand ships with the graces of her eloquence, with might in her softness, it was this one fascinating woman.
---Whisper on 11/2/07


Andrea, there is a huge difference having your kids tell other kids that their parents are with the CIA than having the White House confirm it. It put hundreds if not thousands at risk. If I had done that I would be in jail.
---randy on 11/2/07


.rita, Adam rightly answered God exactly how he was found to be in disobedience rather than no longer being in right with God. History is not changed, the woman sinned, and then refused to repent, but instead proceeded to talk her husband into sinning also against God and therefore the whole human race has fallen into sin. Now if the woman would have repented and asked forgiveness, then she would have been restored and there would have been no condemnation from God, except for the serpents judgment.
---Eloy on 11/2/07


nurserobert - you're right, I can't read her mind, I can only go with what my instincts tell me and the way she has always impressed me. I can't help it - I don't believe anything she says. Maybe it's not "Christian" to mistrust her but I do. I'm not ready to give my country up to socialism and that is exactly what she wants to accomplish. Again, in my opinion.
---tammy on 11/1/07


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RitaH,

It almost sounds like Adam was unable to feed himself unless the food was presented to him by his woman, Eve. And he'd eat anything as long as he didn't have to get it himself.

Is this a trait that some men have inherited from Adam?
---matthew on 11/1/07


Eloy The woman which you gave to bear me company, she got me of the tree and I ate." I Timothy 2:11-14+ Genesis 3:12. Was Adam asking for forgiveness here or passing the buck? Although he admits eating the fruit it doesn't sound as if he is accepting any responsibility. Don't you think that he should have?
---RitaH on 11/1/07


Interesting discourse Matthew & Eloy, but to be exact, Eve sinned first-1 Tm 2:13-14, but Adam is credited with passing on sin to the world-Ro 5:12-14. Don't miss the results of reversing the order of headship-helper roles.
---Geoff on 11/1/07


AH, page 115, paragraph 2, Ch: Mutual Obligations
Eve had been perfectly happy by her husband's side in her Eden home, but, like restless modern Eves, she was flattered with the hope of entering a higher sphere than that which God had assigned her. In attempting to rise above her original position, she fell far below it. A similar result will be reached by all who are unwilling to take up cheerfully their life duties in accordance with God's plan.
---Geoff on 11/1/07


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.matthew, I don't ask a woman, matthew, but ask the Holy Bible: "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Viva. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. And Adam answered, The woman which you gave to bear me company, she got me of the tree and I ate." I Timothy 2:11-14+ Genesis 3:12.
---Eloy on 11/1/07


Betty: You need to be careful. Hating gays is very unchristian. God hates no one. We have an obligation to love and try to help gays as we do anyone else.Gays are people with feelings and are to be respected. We condemn a woman for president and hate gays. That doesn't sound very friendly or christian to me.
---Robyn on 11/1/07


Eloy,

So let's ask the women here:

"Has the whole human race fallen into sin because of one woman?"

Should women forever just follow men because of this?

Check your watch. Its 2007.
---matthew on 11/1/07


Man was made the head and leader of the woman. And it should be lesson enough for all, that since the first woman's wrongful leading the whole human race has fallen into sin.
---Eloy on 11/1/07


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I must have misunderstood you Jasper--surely you weren't implying that women should not have been given the right to vote? :O It sounded like that--better get the boxing gloves and mouth protectors on now lol! :D
---Mary on 10/31/07


Kella3336: "Steveng, Carla...It is good to see that I am not alone on this one"

True kindred spirit.
---Steveng on 10/31/07


I can't remember reading so much venom on this blog site before this question. Would Jesus speak or write in such tones? Mrs. Clinton states she is a Christian, and we are told not to judge. Her mind is apparently as good as any of the men who are candidates. The point made about other nations hating the idea of a female leader is valid. Put away your daggars and think rationally!
---Geraldine on 10/31/07


Tammy, you said "
Hillary stayed with Bill for political reasons only - I doubt she really cared what he did, only that he got caught. As for the numerous investigations she survived - where there's smoke there's fire. "

It's so go to know that you can read Hillary's mind. Do you profess to know the mind of others as well?
---NurseRobert on 10/31/07


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Jasper, you said, "If the wisdom of the Founders had remained intact, chances are we wouldn't now be faced with this woman thrusting herself upon us."

So, a woman running for president is "thrusting" herself upon us, but of course, the men are just offering up their service.

And I guess that 50% of the population of the US should NOT have the right to vote?
---NurseRobert on 10/31/07


Jasper, let's asked the women here:

Should the Congress amend the Constition and disenfranchise women?

Should women be allow to vote according to the Bible?
---matthew on 10/31/07


There have been two amendments to the U.S. constitution which have been instrumental in bringing about the good possibility that Mrs. Clinton will become president.
Those amendments provided women with the right to vote, and also allowed U.S. senators to be elected directly by the citizens instead of the State Legislatures.
If the wisdom of the Founders had remained intact, chances are we wouldn't now be faced with this woman thrusting herself upon us.
---Jasper on 10/31/07


The Clintons have their counterparts in biblical history - Ahab & Jezebel. Like them, they are evil to the core.
---jerry6593 on 10/31/07


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Steveng, Carla...It is good to see that I am not alone on this one
---Kella3336 on 10/31/07


Trish I followed that story. Cheney was linked but her ID as CIA was out so far that her kids had been telling the neighbors. The Dems made such a fuss and there were no charges only charges that they didn't expose everything that the justice dept asked.
If you want to complain about Bush there are much better things to go for.
Politicains = best liar wins, but can we as Christians support pro-abort, pro-gay marriage?
---Andrea on 10/30/07


matthew: "Check you watch. It's 2007."

Technology has changed, medical advances have change, but God never changes, His laws never change, man's hearts never change. Even though man's heart never changes, what HAS change is his ability to control it.
---Steveng on 10/30/07


Hey Steve: It took the most cunning, intellegent being on earth to talk Eve into sinning. It only took a mere woman to talk Adam into it!
---sue on 10/30/07


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steveng,

Check you watch. It's 2007.
---matthew on 10/30/07


Trish9863, great question!
---John1944 on 10/30/07


Darlene, that is so sad and cruel. Hillary has the mind of a very shallow woman. She reminds me of the skinney girls who laugh at the bigger girls. Would she still want the same thing if shd got fat? Man or woman, this kind of thinking is not right.
---Kella3336 on 10/30/07


Why would anyone here want a woman president? Would God be pleased with a woman as our leader? True, men do make bad decisions, as do women. We are all fallible. However, God is not. As a woman, I accept being the weaker vessel and I believe God is protecting women, not that they are less valuable.
---Kella3336 on 10/30/07


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Hillary stayed with Bill for political reasons only - I doubt she really cared what he did, only that he got caught. As for the numerous investigations she survived - where there's smoke there's fire.

I would have a problem with voting for ANY women - only because so many countries have such little respect for women, I think it would hurt us in the long run.
---Tammy on 10/29/07


Mary: "...need I remind you that it was your beloved male, Adam, who knew what was right and instead did what he knew full well was wrong? "

Need I remind you that it was a women who convinced man to do it. Besides, there is a written warning that women are not to rule over man.
---Steveng on 10/29/07


I am curious to know if Christians approved of Bush's revealing the identity of the CIA agent, Valerie Wilson. Would a real Christian allow that to happen, and endanger her life and end her career with the CIA?
---Trish9863 on 10/29/07


Hi Allen, just be careful :) Not ALL democrats are for abortion, you know. :) But to be honest, when someone tells me how horrible democrats are, I can't help but look at our republican President--and the endless thousands of lives he's been involved in ending--including many of our finest.
---Mary on 10/29/07


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Mary: Yet Eve was so easily tricked :)

Ladies we love you. You show us things we could never see on our own. You point out the tender emotional side and help us see so much. Gosh, where would we be without you? Yep, thats right...still in the Garden of Eden- lol.
---SeventhSeal on 10/29/07


The reason it is all right for a woman to be President and lead men is because those verses in the Bible were actually about husband and wives not all men over all women. The curse on Eve was that only her husband would have power over her,again,not all men. Also the directive in the Bible was speaking of Spiritual/religious things and not secular. Debora,prophetess, led before an Army with Barack,Judges5:15 And the Princes of Issachar were with Debora,God was ok with all that.
---Darlene_1 on 10/29/07


How could you as a christian vote for anyone who backs the killing of innocent babies. She and all democrats and some republicans are for abortion. I for one could never vote for anyone whe believes in abortion.
---allen on 10/29/07


I understand that Hillary is not perfect just as none of her male contemporaries are. She had a scriptural out of her marriage but chose to stay with her husband. I think she set a fine example of family values so touted by many of her conservative, many times married, male counterparts.
Also after extensive investigations Hillary was not charged with any crime.
---randy on 10/29/07


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I would vote for a woman for president. But not for Clinton. She is not a Christian by no strech of the means. She is for abortion, she is against the bible, she has no moral values. If she is elected president, get ready for the mark of 666 and say good bye to the any form of religion as religion would then be defined as hate.
---Francis on 10/29/07


A big no from me. I do not agree that we should have a woman president. Who is the head of the home. Is it a woman? Who is to lead a congregation? Is that a position for a woman? If we believe what the bible says, then we know that it is the man who God appointed for this role. Why would a woman who is not the head of the house or to lead a congregationbe an exception in leading a nation?
---Kella3336 on 10/29/07


Carla ... Was Thatcher more disgraceful than any other prime minister?
At least she spoke straight, not like our last PM
---alan_of_UK on 10/29/07


Oh boy, Steveng, have to respond to this but I'm going to be polite in my response: need I remind you that it was your beloved male, Adam, who knew what was right and instead did what he knew full well was wrong? Instead of reminding Eve that it was wrong?
---Mary on 10/29/07


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After Hillary's remark about getting a club after fat people to make them loose weight,I think she is ignorant. I'm not sure anyone who lumps all weight problems into one bunch and wants to punish them all for being fat has sense enough to be a President. I think this had to do with Government Health Insurance and she seems to be saying fat people should have to pay more for insurance. She's also behind,many insurance companies won't insure a person who is over a set weight anyway.
---Darlene_1 on 10/28/07


I would not vote for any one who supports gay's i don't thing she has an mor's the bible talks against the very thing she supports
---Betty on 10/28/07


Need I remind you that it was a women, Eve, who got mankind into this predicament of falling away in the beginning.
---Steveng on 10/27/07


Robyn, amen to that! Hillary is no socialist. She'd be a thousand times better than the fascist now in the White House.
---John1944 on 10/27/07


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Don't you think it would be wiser to just vote for the person who is going to establish Godly morals and conduct the best, instead of eliminating half the population? Man or woman, what's the difference? Shouldn't we be choosing on the grounds of who is the best for the country?
---john on 10/27/07


The Pharisees were moral. Moral Republicans were in control of Congress while intel had enough info to detect and stop Al Qaeda, but they did not correct the dysfunctional state of intel so they could use that information, but rather went morally after Bill Clinton about his behavior, pereverting so many resources from intel other critical priorities. Likewise the democrats were busy elsewhere. Their character hasn't changed, America remains under the dictatorship of such character, still.
---Bill_bila5659 on 10/27/07


Imagine! The long-time, anti-war, anti-military Hillary Clinton as "the best choice to defend the American Homeland."
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imagine the pro-abort, pro-gay marriage, pro-socialized medicine Billary for President.

we can only imagine as we continue to swiral out of control
---Andrea on 10/27/07


We gave a woman the chance to become Prime Minister in Britain and what a disgrace she proved to be. Lets face it women have a good moral and decent place besides her husband not in front, or above him. Women please being feminist is not Christlike and provokes unhealthy debate.
---Carla5754 on 10/27/07


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When I heard Reverend Dobson state that he would vote for Giuliani(who supports abortion and gay marriage) before he would vote for Hillary Clinton. I was disappointed and astounded. And by taking that position, the Republican Party well might force me to vote for and support Hillary Clinton. Will wonders never cease!!!
---Mima on 10/27/07


I'm just an observer of the American scene, and we don't here a lot about the morals of the Presidential hopefuls.
So, it is interesting too see that Hilary Clinton is perceived by some to have "no morals" ... I thougght it was Bill who lacked these
---alan_of_UK on 10/27/07


.
Morality applies to so many different parts of our lives and influences ... our economnic activity can be immoral if it leads to excessive wealth for some and excessive hardship and lack of homes & health for others, and unwarranted war, or destruction of our planet and its species.
I doubt whether any politician, when all is taken into account, is any more or less moral than any other.
---alan_of_UK on 10/27/07


Our own history in the UK shows that a woman leader can be just as effective and powerful as a male.
It was Margaret Thatcher who with Ronald Reagan who faced down the Soviet empire and changed its previously evil influence.
---alan_of_UK on 10/27/07


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a woman president is as viable as a man. All that is needed is a sound good leader. However, all the controversy written about the Clinton administration by eye witnesses is enough for me to pass up voting for this woman. Clinton should have resigned over the unfaithfull issues commited, his lies. His wife should have demanded the same. It is not a proper representation of morals we have given to the world. We excused infedelity. This is only one of the many negatives concerning those two people.
---Michael on 10/27/07


casting a vote on the basis of race or gender is a bad idea. i know it takes work but find out the issues and hey heres an idea..pray about it.
---Kraus on 10/27/07


I don't want a woman for President. I didn't want George Bush a second term, either. Nor did I want Kerry. And I really don't want Hillary for Pres. We don't always get what we want though. Good thing God is in control! God bless!
---kady on 10/27/07


I am sure she could do no worse than any of the other bleeding heart socialist democrats that have sold the country down the river in the name of progress. looking at the past hundred years, everything wrong with the country came as a result of a democrat president. minorities now rule, not the majority. everyone is afraid to offend others. it is time the majority told the minorities to obey the rules or get out and go back where they came from.
---ashley on 10/26/07


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I don't have a problem having a woman as President of the USA. I do have serious problems with Hillary Clinton, flips and flops, border line socialist. Very devious personna, and only mentions God/Jesus when it's convenient to gather votes. If she wins, I hope I am wrong, after all, we have one President at a time. I want any President to perform well.
---Philip on 10/26/07


Hi, I lean towards the conservative, so Hillary might worry me, but after all these years of Bush, I can only say CAN A WOMAN POSSIBLY DO ANY WORSE?! :/ I'd just like ANY President who puts our country first instead of trying to fix every other country!
---Mary on 10/26/07


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