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Should Women Be Leaders

Can women lead? Should they be silent, submissive childbearing helpers to men, or does God want them to do more?

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1/2 2nd submission
A woman was designed to be predominately concerned with her household *1, and can't be "obedient" to her husband *2, yet immodest to other men. It is a noble and honorable job for a woman to raise Godly children, 1Timothy 2:15. Though, for a few illustrious older women, Titus 2:3-5. To do otherwise, is to bring a curse on your household, congregation, city, or on the land *3. Finally, It is the Lord who limits leadership by women. And yes, God loves both women & men, and in fact, so much so that he wants them to do his will, not their own. Numbers 23:19, Psalm 89:34, Isaiah 14:24, Malachi 3:6.
---Glenn on 9/4/10


Bob, brother, again, I am not having a problem with what God says. Nor with what you are saying except maybe that I am not taking your advice when it really it is not needed because I don't have a problem.
I am having a problem with others telling me I am angry or what ever they want to say about me and say I have went against what God says when I have not.

God uses women all the time how he wants.
No, women are not the leaders in the home. Their husband is and should be the head.
In the case of a single mother, Christ is her head and she has no choice but to be the head of the home.

Glenn, brother, awesome scripture. Thank you for that.
---ginger on 9/4/10


2/2
*1) Psalm 128:3, Proverbs 31, 1Timothy 2:9-10, 15, 5:10, Titus 2:4-5.
*2) Husband: Genesis 3:16 (4:7), Ephesians 5:22-24, 33, Colossians 3:18, Titus 2:5, 1Peter 3:1-6. In general: 1Corinthians 11:3-10, 13, 15-16, 14:34-35, 1Timothy 2:11-14. Parent: Exodus 20:12.
*3) Genesis 2:18, 20, 3:16 (Eve desires to rule over Adam / 4:7, Sin desires to rule over Cain), Genesis 3:17-19 (Isaiah 32:13), Numbers 12 (whereat Miriam, not Aaron, gets leprosy), Deuteronomy 22:5 & 1Corinthians 11:1-(16), Isaiah 3:12-4:1, 32:9-14, Amos 4:1-4.
---Glenn on 9/4/10


ginger, no one is shouting at you. It is that you took the advice and made it personal for no good reason. Of course women did a lot of things in Scripture, but because they did, does not mean that God wants you or all women to play the same role. The problem you have is taking advice. And when you are wrong your refuse to admit it. I have heard all things bad about man and how they have failed, but it was not God that failed. God's ways are always right.
---Bob on 9/4/10


this is the 21rst century. YES women can lead IF they are called by God. If they are not, then they should not lead. Everyone should be kept silent during service. I hate it when there are noisey people gossiping about things when I am trying to hear the sermon preached.Can't it wait until after service?
read romans 8:14-17. Partly it says
"14)The true children of God are those who let God's Spirit lead them.15)the spirit we recieved does not make us slaves again to fear,it makes us children of God"
So to me this is also telling me it's not just men leading, it could be women too.
---Candice on 9/4/10




Bob, brother, I am not disagreeing with God.
If God won't use a woman like all seem to think, then why did even bother using all the ones he did use?

I think I have a legitmate question here and I am wondering when someone will answer it biblically.
Everyone keeps saying women can't do this or that yet GOD SAYS they can and has proved it by using them.

And brother no one has actually given me advice. They have shouted at me, insulted me, called me unsaved, but no advice.
---ginger on 9/4/10


The question itself attempts an answer. On a purely light note: it would be wonderful to have 'silence' or 'anyone do more for God'. Back to the question. It appears Paul sees a difference between leadership roles for unmarried (young) men/women. He probably allows women to lead 'after childbirth' because of the delicate issue of sexual attraction, something that could be avoided in the context of church. Scripture is clear about this: man is head over the family. However a lot more freedom has been realized ever since Jesus came. It is a very fine line. An analogy: should men be masculine? probably not. Being too sissy for a man just doesn't fit. That's nature.
---hop on 9/3/10


ginger, we know many things happen in life, but even though they do, we have no right to go against what the Bible teaches concerning the role of man and women. There is a reason why God made it that way. Even if you do not agree with God. That is the way it is if you want to be obedient. If not, then you have to answer to God. All people can do is give you advice.
---Bob on 9/3/10


Carla,
That verse in timothy says "wives" not just women.
Study and shew thyself approved, sister, and rightly divide the word of God.

Wait a minute, we women can't do that. We must ask our husbands and do what they tell us.
Do you realize how dangerous that can be, Carla?
How many men have gotten the word of God wrong and people died.
So, don't just listen to your husband, study for yourself and shew yourself approved by RIGHTLY dividing God's word.
---ginger on 9/3/10


Joyce Mayers who is also a woman with her first husband still alive and remarried,

Rom 7:3 So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Jhn 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence, make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.


LET THE TRUTH SET YOU FREE!
---Carla on 9/3/10




i see nothing wrong with a woman being in leadership look at Joyce Meyer she is a great evangelist and her husband is the head of their home she honors him loves him and respects him. As far as a woman being a Pastor i do not think so i do believe God has called Man to be in this position, but as a teacher , evangelist, and prophet many women have been used greatly, just bloom where God has planted you and don't listen to mankinds gibberish.
Frank........you seem to not have much respect for women in ministry, maybe you have not read the Bible as in Esther, Anna,Diana, and many more. Look who was at the cross when Jesus was crucified and at the tomb.Sarah Palin is another good example of women in leadership and a Christian at that.
---Lea on 9/2/10


Carla,
Please tell me, if what you say is true about Eve from your perspective, then why does the Bible state that in ADAM all died?
Why does it NOT say Eve?
Because Eve was DECEIVED.
Adam chose to fall knowing what would happen. That is WHY.

Women do not have to be silent, subservant, barefoot and pregnant. We might not be able to have the same JOBS in the Body of Christ, but we can serve and do not have to be silent all the time. If this were truth, then God would never use women at all to bring about HIS purpose.
They CAN serve God.
They can LEAD women's groups, help women and children and help Christ come to their husbands if that husband is not saved.
---ginger on 9/2/10


Mary

Hmmm, a serious & total change of attitude. It's difficult when I see, read, hear on the news etc so much. A man's buttons can be pushed just so much.
---Lawrence on 9/1/10


God wanted women to be all that they should have been abd because she was the first human being to go against him sin eneterd flesh, satan defiled his calling and so did Eve. However we now through Christ have access to the father repentance and grace to gain eternal life.

Now we want to lead the whole church into disobedience, that makes a lot of of common sense!!!!

Obedience..... It's hard at the bottom....
---Carla on 9/1/10


Lawrence, Mary~
The whole point is why play the blame game. It all comes through the fall. I choose to view it through a redemptive light if at all possible. Does not all the Scriptures testify of Him? Did not Jesus leave where He was to come where we were, even in our deception and darkness? Our High Priest became us so He could redeem us. Adam could not redeem because he chose the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Jesus could redeem because He did only those things that pleased the Father. Adam fell in a garden, Jesus took it back in a garden. We get so sidetracked over who did what we lose sight of who had the last word and who finished the work.
---Linda on 8/31/10


Linda

I guess it was meant to happen what Eve did, sure wish there would have been a diff alternative.
---Lawrence on 8/31/10


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Bravo Linda! :) I love the things you said, also very interesting point at the end about possibly Adam sticking by Eve after all in the long run, guess we will all find out in Heaven. :)
---Mary on 8/31/10


Mary~
How about the fact that he was present but just stood there watching her wreck her life so he would have an excuse to disobey God himself? The Word says he was with her. Now how often do you see that happen?

Lawrence, Eve wasn't giving Adam a hard time. She wasn't in the fall yet. Try again. You are, even in this day, still doing the same thing Adam did AFTER he fell...blaming the woman. That tells me where your mind strays.

How about this~Adam couldn't stand for her to be in deception alone so he did what was necessary to be with her. God still clothed them in a sacrifice.
---Linda on 8/31/10


Carla ... Our woman PM wrecked the country?

Many will disagree with you about that. The country was already wrecked, with the country being run by trade unions (many of whose bosses have now been discovered to have been in th epay of the USSR

Having said that, she made some mistakes ... who has not?
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/31/10


Oh Sister Rhonda, I am sorry I portrayed that I thought a woman could be the head of the home. That wasn't what I was talking about. Of course a man is the head of the home.
I am saying she is not blind if she is in Christ. That was the only part I didn't like about that post.
That was like lumping all Christian women into one basket and we know all of us are not like that.
---ginger on 8/31/10


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Ginger

Carla's post makes perfect sense when you comprehend there are NO EXAMPLES of women LEADING through Christ

by IMPLYING because one has "the light" of the truth equates to leading is foolish

ONLY The Father in Heaven calls those to HIM - no man (or as the worlds correctness would state no person) can call another to truth

the women would be BLIND if she believed her "spiritualness" was making her the HEAD of her home ...in such a case she is spiritually blind using religious ideas about spirituality AGAINST Holy Word of God

True Christian women do not lead men follow Scripture NOT false ministers of religious christianity
---Rhonda on 8/30/10


Pro 19:13 A foolish son [is] the calamity of his father: and the contentions of a wife [are] a continual dropping.
Pro 21:19 [It is] better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.
Pro 26:21 [As] coals [are] to burning coals, and wood to fire, so [is] a contentious man to kindle strife.
Pro 27:15 A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike.
Pro 21:9 [It is] better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.
Pro 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised [is] wisdom.
Phi 2:3 [Let] nothing [be done] through strife or vainglory, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
---micha9344 on 8/30/10


Lawrence, this is the whole truth: you need a SERIOUS and TOTAL change of attitude towards the other sex!
---Mary on 8/30/10


I disagree with that statement because a Christian woman is to show an example of Christ through her life, meaning there's a posibility her unsaved hubby can be saved. The Blind cannot lead the blind.
---Carla5754 on 3/31/08

Carla, sister,
You are a Christian woman, and you are not blind. So please don,t say that about other Christian women.

Maybe you should not have included the blind part because I liked the rest of your post.
You are saying right here that the light of Christ in her will LEAD her unsaved hubby to Christ.
Isn't that leading in a sense?
And how is she the one that is blind when she has seen the light and is in Christ?
Sorry but that part just did not make sense to me.
---ginger on 8/30/10


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alan

I meant here in the U.S.A. It just may happen, only God knows.
---Lawrence on 8/30/10


mary

Please don't pull your hair out, hairless ladies don't look so pretty.

He's prob in a secluded place Not to hear the griping, complaining etc from her. Prob to get away from what being told what & what Not to do from her as if she has control.
---Lawrence on 8/30/10


Lawrence .... there have already been women Presidents and women Prime Ministers
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/30/10


Gary,

Woe to the man who has his wife the spiritual head - she is also wearing the pants and leading him in all other area's of his life - spiritual shameful and embarrassing to be a WEAK MAN

In all things Christ did his examples were given to the men who LED his spiritual church (aka the called out ones) on earth

TRUE Christians are called out from the world its SYSTEMS traditions etc

Women can lead in the world - the WORLD is led by Satan 2Corin 4:4

Or are the RELIGIOUS christians so blinded they cannot see the NT has no women leading - otherwise there would be women Apostles
---Rhonda on 8/30/10


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The Last time Britain had a woman PRIME MINISTER SHE WRECKED THE COUNTRY! It's never been right since.
---Carla on 8/30/10


If I hear the term "Eve syndrome" one more time, I think I will have about 50 less hairs on my head! So what do you think of "Adam syndrome" where a man is not available when the woman needs him?
---Mary on 8/30/10


Amen Lawrence!
we must also conclude that men can have it too.
Its called lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, the pride of life.
Thats the "eve" complex. The "jezebel spirit" everyone keeps insisting only women have.
Bible lists these as the fruits of the flesh.
ALL can succumb to it.
Can women lead? Yes.
Should women be silent? Yes. They should only lead/speak when God tells them to.
Look at Esther. She was NOT supposed to go before the king unless summoned (wouldve meant death)but when her people needed her and God told her, she went, even when threatened with death.
Someone needs to read these stories about courageous women in the Bible that under extreme circumstances God calls to do his work.
---ginger on 8/30/10


Can Women be leaders ( Church or Gov. leaders ? )

It is possible that one day there maybe a woman president.

The question I have is, will she operate using the Eve syndrome?
---Lawrence on 8/30/10


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I disagree with that statement because a Christian woman is to show an example of Christ through her life, meaning there's a posibility her unsaved hubby can be saved. The Blind cannot lead the blind.
---Carla5754 on 3/31/08


Paul admonished the uneducated women, who were trying to act smarter than they were, to sit down and shut up.
That's not the case anymore because, often, a wife knows more than her husband because the women are the ones, who have stayed close to the Lord and become the spiritual heads of the households.
---Gary on 3/31/08


Behind every good man is a good woman, and behind every evil man is an evil woman IMHO.

Think of this, mothers. The hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world.
---frances008 on 3/29/08


When you read the word of God you read we serve a God that gives guidelines of the role of a woman and assigns work for both sexes according to His specification. That work on earth will soon be accomplished, It does not specify however that women are to model themselves after his servants to prove they Don't need to be silent/ submissive/ faithful of Good reputation and to also teach other women to love their husbands also as a mater of fact on the contrary this is a higher status.
---Carla5754 on 3/28/08


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Deborah was a prophetess and judge of Isreal.
When asked to go to battle with the men, she responded by saying that a woman would be credited for victory over Sisera, to the shame of the men. If there are no men willing, God will use a woman, but it is the Lord's Will that men step forward for leadership. The man is supposed to be the spiritual leader of the household. Any perfect families out there? I've seen it work, and I've seen it fail.
---marble on 3/28/08


Hi Steveng, I actually tend to agree with you on that one--I truly do, brother. :)
---Mary on 3/20/08


Mary: "I'm just glad I'm not married to you... but I couldn't handle a chauvenist."

The word chauvenist is such a worldly and feministic word. If a certain man would love you as Christ loved him, he would give you no reason to hate him. His love for you would be at a point that you would more than willing to serve him without complaint. Finding such a man in today's would surely be difficult indeed.
---Steveng on 3/20/08


By knowing SENTIMENT of love (instead of the simple EMOTION), some have the "rivers" in their heart (John 7:38) and will learn from God's spirit to have their conscience purified also (Hebrews 9:14) by understanding/learning a clear difference between right and wrong (also in Hebrews 5:14) so they can HEAR the word we should LIVE BY "sword of the spirit" Ephesians 6:17, John 10:27.

This "more excellent way" 1 Corin. 12:31, Hebrews 6:1 the introductory doctrine.
---greg on 3/20/08


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From experience, women are the ones who do the most to keep other women out of possible leadership places. Women also compromise much to win the approval of men and sacrifice their true position as spiritual leaders of the family, while the men are working.
---frances008 on 3/20/08


Things are now totally out of hand in Japan. Men dress and do their hair, and jewelry like women in some cases. You have a hard job knowing the sexes apart. The women wear trousers all the time for bicycle riding. Now the men look like women and the women look like men. All predicted by Paul in the Bible. The devil is the author of confusion. Women's lib and femiinism is of the devil pushing men to take women's roles.
---frances008 on 3/20/08


God constructed scripture so that all events and words could someday be available for us to learn from. Nothing is happenstance.

The person at the well had the desire for something special,..."living water". Many people only "eat" of the bread of life, but some also THIRST for a more intimate relationship (Revelation 7:16) because they have the "rivers" in their heart (John 7:38) because they also understood the SENTIMENT of love like the person at the well.
---greg on 3/20/08


Nancy, it's not only about talents and abilities. It's what God wants. It's about roles not rights. Others challenged God's convention unsuccessfully-Num 16:1-35, 12:1-15, 2 Sam 6:3-9. Not just anyone can serve a specific role, only those qualified by God's convention-1 Tm 3:2, 12, Titus 1:6. How dare we challenge God?
---Geoff on 3/20/08


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Bill..

A woman wins her husband through her conversation/conduct/belief/obedience not preaching/Leading the church on a Sunday from the Pulpit.
---Carla5754 on 12/9/07


Frank (big sigh)! Oh boy! I'm just glad I'm not married to you--no offense, you're probably a great guy in a lot of ways but I couldn't handle a chauvenist. God bless you though, we have the right to disagree :)
---Mary on 11/26/07


It is the heart revealed.
Do the women choose to abase themselves and not use one or two scriptures in obedience, or, do they overlook the multitude to exalt themselves.
Like Eve and Vashti, many wish to be gods and exalt themselves rather than submit to the word and be saved in marrying, childbearing and keeping the house. Many do not even know what it means to bear children and keep the house. (spiritually) If they did they would fear God and humble themselves.
Frank
---Frank on 11/23/07


Many women are already in leadership.
They have foreborn to fight and submitted to doctrines of man, female leadership, properity and everything else.They would rather see women lead than risk being hated or go against the "liberty" that really is just from sin and death. Worse yet, have women leave the church so they have to get a job.They esteem a doctrine over the word have also made men their "head" and are as women according to scripture.
Frank
---Frank on 11/23/07


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Nancy::I guess there are many a man entrapped inside a womans body fighting to be released.Hence the need to be a leader. But still Gods word must be obeyed in Genesis 3 :16.
---Emcee on 11/22/07


I've always believed that God wants us to use all of our talents to the best of our abilities. And if a man or woman's talent is for leadership, it should be used, regardless of gender.

BTW, a woman's worth is not dependent upon being 'silent, submissive childbearing helpers to men'. We're much more than that, and to restrict our functions to that would be an utter waste of human potential.
---Nancy on 11/20/07


For those who would wish to lay "their" opinions and egos aside and look at things in obedience to Christ in a more mature light, that is exactly what I was getting at Catherine.
But, that would take using the whole word of God as Jesus said to do.
Not just choosing what we want.
I wonder if those who speak the most arogant would be the first to cower outside their safe haven?
Talk is cheap when not put to the test.
Frank
---Frank on 11/20/07


God wants us to do whatever He tells us to do. We are to obey Him directly and through scripture. We have TWO obediences here. The first is "OBEY ME". +++
---catherine on 11/20/07


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Currently the insurgents are killing women that are not veiled when out of the house.
If they start doing that here in the US how many of you will go outside unveiled or still try to be leaders?
Bear in mind, like the girls I mentioned, right now you are in a safe haven.
If they come here you won't be.
Is the risk of appearing at the judgment seat of Christ with the sin of arogance and being sent to hell forever worth having your rights and justifying female leadership for a season, if killed?
---Frank on 11/20/07


I am not posting that to be sexist. It is current news.
Jesus abased himself and did not use his "rights" and "power" as much as he could have.
He was an example.
He told us to abase ourselves as well.
He also said to agree with our adversary while in the way.
Is a premature death worth it when "to be a Jew to the Jew," so to speak and veil yourself might give you the extra days to see a relative or loved one saved?
Frank
---Frank on 11/20/07


1 - I have a question for the would-be women leaders.
When I was in Israel two American girls thought they could belittle an Israeli.
When he pulled out a knife and told them he would kill them and nothing would be done about it their smiles turned to fear and they ran for their lives. They were no longer in a safe haven where talk is cheap and arogance accepted.
My question comes with post # 2

Frank
---Frank on 11/20/07


Junia was the bishops boss
---Andrea on 11/2/07

NOPE! Check the facts. Plus, it's possible Junia is really Junias (not female, but male).

Romans 16:7
Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
---Geoff on 11/5/07


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It depends what you mean by leaders? God said man is the glory of God Almighty,and a women is the glory of man. You decied. They can teach in homes as Aquila and Priscilla.
---save_by_grace on 11/5/07


Women certainly can be leaders! Some of the most effective witnesses I know of are women. I only know three prophets and two of them are women. The Lord chooses women to do many many things, but he does not choose them to the bishops(preachers) that is according to the word. So the question becomes can we trust the word?
---Mima on 11/4/07


moderator can you tell me why some of my replys do not post.
Women has been on the seen sence Adam.
They have always been in greater numbers.
God seeing all of this,when having His word pened in 66 books chose not to use not one of them{women}to write not one scripture.
It would seem that for some reason which I do not know he{God}would not use none of them to write one word.
Something to give some thought.
---lionel on 11/4/07


God wants women to witness,god wants women to use the gifts that he has given them for the kingdom.but I also believe that most women today and their attitudes are just another sign of the end times
---tom2 on 11/4/07


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"Bishops should be the husband of one wife"
What about single men & widowers ... Can't they be Bishops? Of course they can.
The scripture clearly refers to the fact that God says a Bishop should be a person with no more than one spouse, rather than to them being male.
---alan_of_UK on 11/3/07


If only we would get the drift (o: > 1 Peter 3:1-4 shows us how a woman can win a disobedient husband to obey God, by her being in "the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God." (in verse 4) She can do this "without a word" (verse one (o: ). So, a woman indeed can lead. If only we guys would consider this power of influence which comes with being gentle and quiet in God's love...submissive to You.
---Bill_bila5659 on 11/3/07


Rebecca_D, Yes God can do anything He wants to do. One thing He wants to do is abide by His own written Word. You will never find God going against His Scripture.
---Elder on 11/3/07


As for Bob, Bob I don't have to experience adultery to know it is wrong. If you are involved in it then I can, according to Scripture, judge you where you stand. Paul proved that.
Christians have gotten so worldly that they think they can't stand against sin without being called judgmental. It is our duty to judge sin. Maybe if we did some of the things would stop in our society.
---Elder on 11/3/07


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This is my opinion only. I believe that the role of a woman is a little more than being submissive and a helpmate for a man as well as bearing children. I do believe that a woman can teach, such as a Sunday School class. I do not believe that a woman should be a Pastor. Jesus told us ALL to share the Good news of the Gospel, and He did not say men only. Both Men and women should be witnessing to the lost, winning souls for the Kingdom of God.
---Cynthia on 11/2/07


Women have been around sence the creation of man,always in greater numbers.I wonder that when God had his word written,dispite the great number of women God in 66 books did not use not one{woman}to write.So it would seem that he{God}proposely chose not to use them.So if the bible is not very clear about a wonans position,she should move very gentle.
---lionel on 11/2/07


Junia was the bishops boss
---Andrea on 11/2/07


Monica, prophets and judges don't lead. Prophets speak for God and judges interpret right from wrong, especially when no one knows the Law anymore.

Judges 17:6, 21:25
In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

Will someone please give me even one text calling for women to be priests, elders or pastors?
---Geoff on 11/2/07


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1 Tim 3:1 If a man, In Greek Lexicon-Strongs 1536 ei[ ti ,"If a Man" actually means whoever or whatever. The Word Origin, 1487 eij means if or whether, other part is ti meaning a certain,a certain one,some,some time,a while, none of the Greek words mean man. It is ,therefore,obvious liberty was taken by the translaters in relatiopnship to the era the Bible was translated when women were second class. If they had used whatever or whoever it can be a woman,changing the rest of verse to fit.
---Darlene_1 on 11/2/07


"Moderator - How could a Woman Bishop be married to a woman if you keep reading the verses?"

"Moderator - So no scriptures for a woman Bishop then?"
---Bob on 11/2/07


RD:::'s comments

"No it isn't wrong. That is what is wrong with ALOT of people. To hung up on what someone has done or hasn't done. What is wrong is for you or anyone else to judge her because of her lifesyle. Until you have walked in her shoes, you have no right saying what is wrong and what isn't wrong. My question is "Does it matter?"

"Moderator - What matters is what the scriptures say. What scriptures are you using to back up the theory of a woman bishop?"
---Bob on 11/2/07


"My theory is God Almighty can do anything he choses to do. He can call anyone to do his work and spread his word. He even uses sinners to do his work, they don't know it but he does. Yes the woman maybe the weaker vessel, but there are alot of yellow streaked men out here whom won't stand up for God, so God calls some women to spread the word like it is. I don't mean to offend anyone but we are talking about God."
---Rebecca_D on 10/17/05

Moderator - Please show the scriptures.
---Bob on 11/2/07


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Jesus Christ came to set the captives free, that includes women.
As far as barefoot and childbearing, Jesus is the greatest example of taking the veil off of women, and disarming men who think of women as second class citizens.
---Bob on 11/2/07


According to Scripture, it would be difficult for a woman to be a 'Bishop'.

"Moderator - I agree things aren't always spelled out which can make things more complex at times. Outside of scripture which doesn't seem to support a woman Bishop, do you have any 1st or 2nd century examples of woman Bishops that were considered non-heretical?"
---Bob on 11/2/07


Can women lead who? Men? Other women? Children? Other Preachers? What do you mean by "lead?" Do you mean "Teach?"
Or do you mean lead as being the President of the United States as in Hilary Clinton? Just curious because your question is very vague.
---Donna on 11/2/07


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