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LDS Not The Tribe Of Isreal

The LDS (mormons) are changing the Book of Mormon to reflect the new DNA eveidence that proves mormons are not from the lost tribe of Israel. Does this prove they are not a true church?

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If all things are possible and he loves us, then why wouldn't he make a way for us to become like him?
---chris on 2/17/08
We become like him in CHARACTER, we do not become GOD ourselves! We will always worship the Father and His Son Jesus. Only SATAN wanted to "be like the Most High" and become God and he has planted this wrong idea into your mind and the mind of all LDS
---Gina7 on 2/29/08


Gina:If a parent wanted his kids to be less than him, what kind of parent would he be? If a god wanted his children (adopted or not)to be less than him, what kind of god would he be? Either God loves us or he doesn't. Either all things are possible with God, or not. If all things are possible and he loves us, then why wouldn't he make a way for us to become like him?
---chris on 2/17/08


Gina 7
I like reading what you write

...would there be any way possible you could number your posts?

If you can that would be nice ...it helps to read it in order rather than piecing multiple posts together :)
---Rhonda on 2/17/08


Mormon doctrine states that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers! That's outrageous!
If Jesus and Lucifer are brothers, then that makes BOTH of them the Son of God, and that is outright heresy. Let the Bible have the final say in this matter and show the Bible is above Mormonism: "For God so loved the world, that He gave his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.." John 3:16. Only begotten son, means only son, the ONLY one. There is NO OTHER SON! And that is Jesus Christ, our Saviour!
---Gina7 on 2/16/08


John 3:16 New Living Translation:

"For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life"
---Gina7 on 2/16/08




John 3:18 The Message Bible

"..anyone who refuses to trust him has long since been under the death sentence without knowing it. And why? Because of that person's failure to believe in the one-of-a-kind Son of God when introduced to him."

Why is a Morman under the death sentence? because they refuse to believe in the Son of God as presented in the Scriptures,which is the THE ONLY BEGOTTON SON, SENT TO DIE FOR THIER SINS. Instead, another Jesus is taught,just 1 of many sons
---Gina7 on 2/16/08


John 3:16 The Message Bible

"This is how much God loved the world: He gave his Son, his one and only Son. And this is why: so that no one need be destroyed, by believing in him, anyone can have a whole and lasting life"

There is no Lucifer also being the son of God (brother of Jesus), there are no spirit children of God being born and then enhabiting Morman bodies (as it taught to children as soon as they can understand it) All is heresy
---Gina7 on 2/16/08


Gina:The Gospels teach that Christ and God were different in knowledge, duties, will, and location and that Christ is literally God's SON, SENT by His FATHER. "Father" literally means father.
---chris on 1/15/08
I believe in God the Father, who is the only God of the universe, and His Son Jesus. Mormans believe God "the father" of this planet, is only one of many Gods, and that we can become Gods ourself thru exhaltation. THIS IS NOT BIBLICAL!
---Gina7 on 1/18/08


Gina, Mormon's basic doctrines are biblical.
---chris on 1/15/08
Mormans basic doctrines try to sound like they are Biblical. This is a true statement, but the doctrines themselves are not. God the father and his wife having "spirit children" in which only Morman children get to have these spirits inhabit them, exaltation to be Gods themselves, stating that God the Father is "Heavenly Father" who is just one of many many Gods of the universe? None of this is Biblical!
---Gina7 on 1/18/08


The true God is the Father and He is the only God of the entire universe Other than His Son Jesus, He does not share the Universe/throne with a multitute of exalted little gods. We worship the Father, we do not become Gods with the Him. The Father is the Ancient of Days, with no beginning, and no end. Only He is God. Human beings who God created, becoming Gods? I dont think so.
---Gina7 on 1/18/08




Gina, Mormon's basic doctrines are biblical. There is no doctrine more central to Christianity than "Who is Christ and what is His relationship to God the Father?". Though hard for indoctrinated individuals to accept, the Gospels though not perfectly clear do seem to better support the Mormon's concept related to the above question.
---chris on 1/15/08


Gina:The Gospels teach that Christ and God were different in knowledge, duties, will, and location and that Christ is literally God's SON, SENT by His FATHER. "Father" literally means father. Stop using extrabiblical creeds and just read the source. Why do you need a "creed" if the bible is clear and correct? I challenge anyone to start at Matthew and read the bible to understand who Christ and God the Father are.
---chris on 1/15/08


Gina, It may be easy to make a statement that Mormons don't follow the bible at all, but it is also false. Mormons and other denominations may have differences as to how they interpret scriptures and which scriptures they choose to quote or not, but the fact is that most who read the gospels with an open mind will see that there are numerous references that support them, that most "traditional orthodox christians" either ignore or contort into its opposite.
---chris on 1/15/08


Exposed as much as I was to Mormanism having friends who are LDS, attending some evening events, and having gone to the Library in Salt Lake City doing genealogy research (I am by the way related to Joseph Smith on my Father's side!) my friends wife's LDS family thought it best to convert me and set up the attempt. My friend however knew it was a futile move, but allowed the attempt to occur knowing perfectly well what would happen. There was also a 2nd attempt at a big family gathering.
---Gina7 on 1/12/08


There was also a 2nd attempt at a big family gathering. I was always the odd man out, the only person not Morman at these gatherings, and it was only inevitable that an attempt to convert me would occur, but it was a big mistake to do it in front of the entire family and children because I started quoting the Bible, said I would never embrace the horrible doctrines that comprise Mormanism, and that I know Christ as my Saviour and would not give Him up to be a Morman. I was not stopped this time.
---Gina7 on 1/12/08


After the 2nd attempt, I told my friend to never let it happen again, and told him although I understood their motives, I found the "intervention" tactic with the entire family ganging up on me in a house upsetting and now I would feel uncomfortable ever attending any family event again (which I never did). After this, anytime someone saw me at my friends house,where I lived, they were rude to me, because I testified of Jesus Christ and refused Mormanism.
---Gina7 on 1/12/08


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Gina-perhaps "know your Bible too well" translated means "you are too closed minded to accept it so perhaps another time"- Tammy.

No, it did not mean that. He didnt want them converted to truth of Bible and have it known it was done in HIS house and have to answer to church for it. He already knew I understood the Bible. He meant what he said when he stated "She knows her Bible too well" because only those who do not know their Bible will be ensnared into Mormanism
---Gina7 on 1/12/08


Gina - perhaps "know your Bible too well" translated means "you are too closed minded to accept it so perhaps another time." I wouldn't subject a Mormon missionary to someone such as yourself - someone not willing to go into the lessons with an open mind and heart. I don't push my religion on anyone - if they ask a question I will gladly answer but if they are happy with their faith I have no right to interfere. One more thing - an opinion is not proof.
---Tammy on 1/10/08


Tammy just explain to me where in the bible it says it is alright to commit adultery?
Jos Smith married (33 women) but 11 women who were still married to other men. Not divorced women but women who had live husbands who were mormons. He was a hoodlum and a pervert who impregnated his own adopted daughter.
---Andrea on 1/10/08


Don't you think that if Joseph Smith were writing his own book and not translating it -he would've said IN Bethlehem? You accuse him of plaquerizing the Bible - don't you think that would've been a given?
---Tammy on 1/7/08
How can you be so blind? He was writing his own book and said Jerusalem, the wrong city, proving it was his own book and not inspired! He was not copying this part.. He wrote the Jerusulem birth himself.
---Gina7 on 1/10/08


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forget DNA,they preach and believe "another gospel".THIS proves they are not a true church.
---donald on 1/10/08


When I used to live with a Morman couple and the elders of the church came over to the house and tried to convert me, I started quoting the Bible to them in order to show how the beliefs were not Biblically based, and husband told elders "Do not even try to convert her, she knows her Bible too well". So much for trying to convince me Mormans follow the Bible more literally than any other faith! They dont follow it at all! Not even following the Jesus of the scriptures!
---Gina7 on 1/10/08


Part II. When I asked the husband of the couple I lived with why he stopped the discussion, because I was holding my own with the Elders by quoting the scriptures, He said something that opened my eyes quite literally about the Morman faith,- He said he "didnt want me converting THEM to the Bible " !!!! This is why I say, I am totally convinced that the Morman faith is of the devil, has nothing to do with God, and all Mormans are deceived and lost without the true Christ in their lives.
---Gina7 on 1/10/08


Part III And if you doubt the sincerity of the Morman couple I mentioned, who stopped my conversation with the Elders who tried to convert me to Mormanism, saying I knew my Bible too well, know that they just became Temple Mormans, just dedicated their baby to the Morman faith,and the husband holds a high office in the church. These are dedicated Mormans who didnt want me coverting their elders to the Bible,and why? Because Mormanism has nothing to do with the real Bible.
---Gina7 on 1/10/08


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Gina - There are many doctrines because people pick and choose what scriptures to believe in.
---Tammy on 1/9/08
Yes, and the confusion behind it all is due to Lucifer/Satan causing the confusion over what the Bible really says.
---Gina7 on 1/10/08


Gina - There are many doctrines because people pick and choose what scriptures to believe in. The Mormons follow the Bible more literally than any other faith.
---Tammy on 1/9/08


Andrea - you know the truth. The Mormons follow the Bible and the Book of Mormon isn't it. The Book of Mormon is simply another testament of Jesus Christ. If you ever find yourself capable of a debate based on scripture and not anti-mormon rhetoric taken from websites I'll be glad to debate it with you. If not, I'm going to do my best to ignore your ridiculous distortions.
---Tammy on 1/9/08


Tammy the prophecies about Jesus were not just "kinda" and "close". They were very specific and it is important that Christians don't change the Bible to suit their own doctrines.
Jos Smith rewrote the bible and called it the Book of Mormon.
---Andrea on 1/8/08


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Well Gina - I suppose that we disagree on the definition of vicinity. I live in a small Texas town and when people ask me where I live I say Houston because it's in the vicinity of Houston but NOT in Houston and it gives people an idea of where I live. Don't you think that if Joseph Smith were writing his own book and not translating it -he would've said IN Bethlehem? You accuse him of plaquerizing the Bible - don't you think that would've been a given?
---Tammy on 1/7/08


In regard to one of your previous posts in regard to the BOM contradictions. The scripture says he was born AT Jerusalem, which indicates a vicinity - it doesn't say IN Jerusalem.- Tammy 12/25/07

Nice try, Jerusalem is a CITY, not a vicinity. Same as Bethlehem is a CITY, not a vicinity. The correct vicinity name would be JUDAH, of which Jerusalem and Bethlehem are cities in.
---Gina7 on 1/5/08


The correct vicinity name would be JUDAH, of which Jerusalem and Bethlehem are cities in. JUDAH / JUDAEA is the land or vicinity of which Jerusalem is a city in, and Bethlehem is a city in. Just the same as GALILEE is a Vicinity of which Nazareth is a city in. If the book of Morman said Jesus was born in Judaea, then it would be accurate, but it is blantantly inaccurate stating Jesus was born in the city of Jerusalem! Not inspired of God!
---Gina7 on 1/5/08


Why do you suppose there are so many doctrines out there?
---Tammy on 12/25/07
Because Lucifer is alive and well and HE (not God) is the author of confusion. 1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Confusion, Babylon, is not of God and God calls us to come out of the world of religious confusion in Rev 18:4
---Gina7 on 1/5/08


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Are you familiar with the Grace vs. Works debate?
---Tammy on 12/25/07

Yes, I am, and it would not be there is people were not being sold a false idea of being saved in their sins, a false grace, that does not mention overcoming in the power of Christ and keeping holy the 10 commandments. The Bible teaches being saved FROM your sins, not in them. Again, this is all due to Lucifer, who teaches error.
---Gina7 on 1/5/08


Yes, there have been changes to the Book of Mormon - most of them were grammar changes and a few were for clarification purposes. You've never read it but have found many things in it which contradict the Bible? That is interesting! I can't help but wonder if you have noticed the contradictions within the Bible itself? Are you familiar with the Grace vs. Works debate? Why do you suppose there are so many doctrines out there?
---Tammy on 12/25/07


In regard to one of your previous posts in regard to the BOM contradictions. The scripture says he was born AT Jerusalem, which indicates a vicinity - it doesn't say IN Jerusalem. There have been changes such as changing "which" to "who" and "was" to "were". Critics choose to try and pick it apart rather than judge it for it's content -a testimony of Jesus Christ.
---Tammy on 12/25/07


we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
--Tammy 12/17/07
You are blind then. BOM contradicts the Bible, has been changed by your church over and over, proving it is not of God, has Joseph Smiths copying of translation errors from the KJV what were later shown to be better translated another way (yet he copied them into his "inspired BOM")and the list goes on. The BOM is a stolen manuscript written in the old scripture style, with false scriptures added by Joseph Smith
---Gina7 on 12/22/07


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Just because a book speaks of Jesus does not mean it came from God or has real truth in it.
---Gina7 on 12/15/07

I suppose the same could be said of the Bible. Is there "proof" that it came from God? My faith tells me that it is of God. I stand by my statement - it's ridiculous to declare that the Book of Mormon is "of the devil" without having read any of it. The LDS believe the Bible to be the word of God, we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
---Tammy on 12/17/07


It's interesting how many "Christians" call the Book of Mormon "of the devil" - yet they haven't read it! It testifies of Jesus Christ! Tammy 12/10/07
The devil comes disguised as an angel of light (II Cor 11:14), and puts just enough truth in, mixed with the errors, so that the errors will be taken in unawares. Just because a book speaks of Jesus does not mean it came from God or has real truth in it.
---Gina7 on 12/15/07


The devil comes disguised as an angel of light (II Cor 11:14), and puts just enough truth in, mixed with the errors, so that the errors will be taken in unawares. Just because a book speaks of Jesus does not mean it came from God or has real truth in it. I could write a book about Jesus unknown childhood and say "It is of God because it testifies of Jesus Christ!" It is still made up, it is still not of God, it would still be just like the BOM, a work of the devil.
---Gina7 on 12/15/07


"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. and no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his (devils) ministers also be transformed as ministers of righteousness whose end shall be according to their works II Cor 11:13-15

Just because the BOM claims to "testify of Jesus Christ" does not make it inspired of God.
---Gina7 on 12/15/07


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Martin Harris later admitted that he had lied and never actually saw the plates
---Gina7 on 12/7/07

1. I think he said he saw them with his "spiritual eyes," as men who see God see God. That's a whole other debate. Oliver Cowdery left the church for awhile and joined the Methodists, he eventually came back. David Whitmer left the church never to return BUT he never denied his testimony of the Book of Mormon - not even when guns were pointed at him after being tarred and feathered.
---Tammy on 12/10/07


"Martin later left, so he heeded Anthon's advice." Gina7

If you read the account you would know that after Professor Anthon took back the certificate he had signed and tore it up saying, "I cannot read a sealed book" - Harris took the translation elsewhere (Professor Mitchell) who verified what Anthon had said. Since the incident took place before the Book Of Mormon was published it's interesting that Mr. Harris would continue to fund it after being told it was a fraud.
---Tammy on 12/10/07


3. Martin Harris left the church for some time but never recanted his testimony.

As for where the gold plates are - I certainly don't know. Maybe they were taken back because obviously men are greedy and the plates would have a high monetary worth. The truth is that even if they were available for men to see - people would simply dismiss them saying that Joseph Smith carved them himself. People see and hear what they want to.
---Tammy on 12/10/07


It's interesting how many "Christians" call the Book of Mormon "of the devil" - yet they haven't read it! It testifies of Jesus Christ! Sure, there are things that can't be "proven" - they can't be "disproven" either. I guess that's where faith comes in. The cut and paste tactics are silly, you only get pieces of the story!
---Tammy on 12/10/07


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In Pearl of Great Price,Sect 2,vs 62-64, Joseph Smith claims Martin Harris showed Professor Charles Anthon some characters Joseph had printed and the translation and claims Anthon said translation was correct (in 1611 KJ English!) On Feb 17,1834 Anthon wrote a letter explaining what really happened and he said it was anything BUT Egyptian Hieroglyphs and advised Martin he was part of a scheme to cheat the farmer out of his money and to beware of Rogues. Martin later left, so he heeded Anthon's advice.
---Gina7 on 12/7/07


Nobody has been able to explain how "Golden Plates" written in "Reformed Egyptian" Hyroglyphs (Symbols, such as birds, and drawings) could be translated in 1611 King James English, stating this is the language the symbols intended, when it was 1000 years before the language or the 1611 KJ Bible was written! Why not translate to the English language of 1827? I guarantee you no Egyptian Hygroglyph had symbols for "thee" and "thou" in it!
---Gina7 on 12/7/07


I guarantee you no Egyptian Hygroglyph had symbols for "thee" and "thou" in it, nor did the people of that era use those words! They spoke/wrote an entirely different language! They most likely did not know Egyptian, and if they did, they most certainly did not say, we speak Greek, let us write our story in Egyptian hidden symbols, and let us do it in an Old English style of writing that will not be invented for another 1000 yrs in yet another language nobody knows.
---Gina7 on 12/7/07


Let us write our story in Egyptian hidden symbols, and let us do it in an Old English style of writing that will not be invented for another 1000 yrs in yet another language nobody knows. tell me how this was done.. How do you think in Greek, write in an Old English style of language but use Egyptian symbols to express that? Answer: It is ludicrious to think early Christians knew 1611 era Old English, much less would attempt to write it out in Egyptian Hygroglyphs. LOL
---Gina7 on 12/7/07


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There are men who witnessed the plates and the Urim and Thummim.There will never be enough proof for the skeptic
-Tammy 12/3/07
Please! Where are the plates now? Where are the "Urim/Thummin" NO MORMAN HAS EVER PRODUCED THEM,and the so-called witnesses, Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, and Martin Harris,later apostized from Mormanism and were described as theives and counterfeiters by their Morman contemporaries. Martin Harris later admitted that he had lied and never actually saw the plates
---Gina7 on 12/7/07


(Moses and Abraham) ARE NOT IN the Book of Mormon! Either your anti Mormon websites have let you down or you didn't do your homework. Those are found in The Pearl of Great Price. (for future reference)
---Tammy on 12/3/07
Thank you for pointing this out. However, I did not quote from scripture (which is the Bible only), I quoted from Joseph Smith's contradictory made up false scriptures so called. Changes made to them so many times proves they are not scriptures, not infallible, not of God.
---Gina7 on 12/7/07


The Bible is a compilation of many books by many authors, just as the Book of Mormon is. I believe that both are inspired by God. I also believe that translations can be wrong -the Bible included. If Joseph Smith had written the Book of Mormon himself, wouldn't he take care not to contradict himself? There are men who witnessed the plates and the Urim and Thummim. There will never be enough proof for the skeptic.
---Tammy on 12/3/07


Gina - one tiny little detail that you should be made aware of is that the scriptures you've quoted from the Book of Mormon (Moses and Abraham) ARE NOT IN the Book of Mormon! Either your anti Mormon websites have let you down or you didn't do your homework. Those are found in The Pearl of Great Price. (for future reference)
---Tammy on 12/3/07


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I've read the Book of Mormon and could understand all the anger if it didn't testify of Jesus Christ - but it does. Joseph Smith didn't need to write his own book - Calvin, Wesley, Luther and others didn't do that, they just decided what doctrines they liked and went with it in order to form their own churches. I'm sure that Joseph Smith was aware that there are verses that read the same as the Bible - why wouldn't there be since both books testify of Jesus Christ?
---Tammy on 12/3/07


Book of Morman, Moses 2:1 "I am the beginning and the end, the Almighty God, by mine Only Begotten I created these things, yea in the beginning I created the heaven, and the earth..." MONOTHEISM

Book of Morman, Abraham 4:1 "And then the Lord said: Let us go down, and they went down at the beginning, and they, that is the Gods, organized and formed the heavens and the earth" POLYTHEISM

Contradictions, proving the BOM is NOT inspired by God, but by the devil
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


In speaking of Melchisedec: Heb7:24 "But this man, because he continueth forever, hath an unchangeable priesthood" KJV (margin, a priesthood which passeth NOT from one person to another") The Greek literally reads "But he continues forever, so his priesthood is untransferable"
What do Mormans claim? Melchizedek conferred or TRANSFERRED his priesthood to Abraham when he paid tithe to him! This is NOT BIBLICAL as Heb 7:24 states, his priesthood is untransferrable.
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


Mistakes Joseph Smith made when adding the religious elements to Solomon Spauldings lost (and never to be found) manuscript of an ancient people:

Alma 7:9 "The son of God cometh upon the face of the earth. And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem, which is in the land of our forefathers.."

Did Joseph forget that Jesus was born in Bethlehem? Micah 5:2 predicts it, and Matthew 2:1 records the fulfilment of this prophecy. Alma 7:9 of BOM is false, and manmade!
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


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Alma 7:9 of Book of Morman is false, and manmade! And if one line is false, the rest of it is NOT TO BE TRUSTED! This contradition cannot be reconciled by any explanation, because 1 Nephi 1:4 describes Jerusalem as a city as was Bethlehem. Two separate cities,and Jesus was only born at one of them. And we all know it was Bethlehem, in a stable, laid in a manger. It was not in Jerusalem! Joseph Smith did not know the Bible very well, and made this most glaring mistake because of it.

---Gina7 on 12/1/07


In the 1830 1st edition of the Book of Morman, 1 Nephi 11:21 reads "And the angel said unto me, Behold the Lamb of God, even the eternal father".

Later editions corrected this error of Joseph Smith to read "And the angel said unto me: Behold the Lamb of God, yea even the son of the eternal Father!"

Inspired? I think not!



---Gina7 on 12/1/07


1 Nephi 19:16-20 in later editions when compared with the original 1830 edition has had over 50 changes, with words having been dropped, spelled correctly, words and phrases added and turned around. So this was the infallible revelation from God! No, it was the writing of a confused Joseph Smith who did not know his Bible very well.
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


1 John 5:7 is copied into III Nephi 11:27,36 by Joseph Smith, and Smith did not know that 1 John 5:7 would later be proved to be an interpolation added by overzealous scribes and not found in the original manuscripts of the New Testament. Smith paraphrased it, and added it to the Book of Morman, not knowing it would later be proven to be uninspired words. Of course, the entire Book of Morman is uninspired, so it fits right in.
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


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III Nephi 11:33-34 is copied from Mark 16:16, another passage now known to be added by an overzealous scribe and has been proven to be uninspired.
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


In Acts chapter 3, Peters' sermon at Pentacost paraphrases Deuteronomy 18:15-19. While writing III Nephi, Joseph Smith puts Peters paraphrase into the mouth of Christ when He was supposedly preaching to the Nephites, and overlooked the fact that Peters sermon had not yet been preached yet! Jesus could not have been quoting from Peter if Peter had not yet preached it.
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


Mormans maintain that when Nephi came to America he brought copies of the Hebrew Scriptures, which account for quotations from the Old Test (such as Mosaiah 14 is the same as Isaiah 53,and III Nephi 13:1-8 copies Matt 6:1-23) but Mormans cannot explain how the translation by Smith from the "golden plates" came out in perfect 1611 King James English without variation 1000 years before the 1611 version was written! So the ancient people wrote in King James English!!! LOL
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


So the ancient people wrote in King James English, and did it in Reformed Egyptian Hyroglyphs, that Joseph Smith could interpret to be actual King James English in Egyptian symbols by use of the Glasses he called the Urim & the Thummin. How does an Egyptian symbol become King James English style of writing, unless you are using your King James Bible and copying from it!!! Wake up Mormans and run from this horrible joke of a made up book and faith that does not follow the true God!
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


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III Nephi Joseph Smith has Christ saying that Peters' sermon at Pentacost was a direct quotation of Moses when Peter paraphrased it and did not quote directly (and by the way, Peters Pentacost sermon had not yet been preached yet, remember, because Christ appeared to the Ancient Peoples during the 40 days He was on earth and this was BEFORE Pentacost per Morman theology) WHAT AN ERROR! And would Christ lie and say it was a direct quote when it was to be a paraphrase? NO, because Christ never said this.
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


II Nephi 14:5 quotes Isaiah 4:5 "For upon all the glory shall be a defence" Joseph Smith in copying Isaiah 4:5 did not realize there was a translation error for the word "defence". The Hebrew Word "Chuppah" does not mean defence but a protective curtain or canopy. Modern translations have corrected this, but Smith, simply copying his King James Bible, copied the error into the Book of Morman. This should show any person that the Book of Morman is not inspired
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


Isaiah 5:25 "And their carcases were torn in the midst of the street". The Book of Morman copies this word for word (in King James English from golden plates being written 1000 years before the King James Bible was written)not knowing that the Hebrew word "Suchah" is correctly translated as "refuse" not torn. Joseph Smith translated nothing, he copied from his King James Bible, error and all. No inspiration in the Book of Morman- it is the true REFUSE!
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


Where are the golden plates that Joseph Smith allegedly used the "Urim & Thumin" to look through and translate the Book of Mormon? Have they ever been found? In a museum at Salt Lake City perhaps?
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


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March 20, 1826 New York vs. Joseph Smith court trial, found Joseph Smith guilty of money digging (looking for hidden treasure by way of a peep stone {occult practice} in his hat)

1827 Joseph Smith claims to have unearthed the golden plates in the hill Cumorah near Palmrya, NY even though he was convicted of money digging & was forbidden to dig (meaning he cound not have found anything and wanted to find something so badly he made up the whole idea of finding golden plates)
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


Solomon Spaulding wrote a historical romance story and it was at the printer to be printed. The printer was a friend of Joseph Smith, and it disappeared from the printers office. It forms the basis of the majority of the Book of Morman. Joseph Smith added the religious elements, which Spaulding's widow claims were not in her husband's book. Smith dressed it up (what he was doing 1827-1829 when he "claimed" to be translating the golden plates) Stolen book + made up religious elements = BOM
---Gina7 on 12/1/07


Andrea - in regard to the quote by Joseph Smith. Do you have an idea of who he was speaking to? He was speaking to those who tarred and feathered him, brought false accusations upon him and even those who eventually killed him. Are you aware that he preceded his talk with II Corinthians Chapter 11 - the verses in which Paul "boasts"? He was making the point that whatever those people did to him, God would take care of the church. Just another one of your out of context attacks.
---Tammy on 11/30/07


JosSmith stated:I'm the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul,John,Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him, but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.

Jos Smith boasted he was BETTER then Jesus!

Your church often says it is the one true church.Which one of the 300 true churches would that be?
---Andrea on 11/27/07


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Am I to understand that because "300" different sects of Mormonism exist it means that the original Church of Jesus Christ is less than the original Church of Jesus Christ? All it says to me is that there are people who pick and choose what doctrine they wished to follow - just as the Protestants did with Catholicism. It doesn't make Catholics less Catholic. Also - the INTRODUCTION to the Book of Mormon is being changed. The introduction was not part of Joseph Smith's translation.
---Tammy on 11/26/07


There are over 300 different sects of mormonism. Joseph Smith said he was better then jesus at keeping a church together. One more lie

you tube has information ptoving mormons were not the lost tribe. some mormons did DnA studies and proved he lied again and that the lds church knew about it for decades but won,'t admit it. Now they are changing the book of mormon again
---tommy on 11/26/07


Susie,
I understand your disgust in regard to polygamy - I've read things you've posted in regard to this practice which touched you personally. Nevertheless, you cannot claim every article written by the LDS as a "lie" simply because you don't want it to be true. I'm not arguing with you - only asking that when you make such a statement you provide something substantial to back it up.
---Tammy on 11/20/07


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