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Everyone is aware that high dignitaries and low peasants of the RCC kiss statues. Question, what other major world religion is also in to kissing something inanimate? And exactly what is it they kiss?

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1 Kings 21:17-29 doesn't proof that God changes His appointed time. All God did was bring conviction to Ahab so that he would repent. God threaten Him with a lot of things if he didn't repent and let me say that threat did the job.
What you call a miracle is never a miracle to God. It is a miracle to us but not to Him. God already knew that Ahab would do what he did. Verse 29, When God brings conviction to anyone it always works. "See how Ahab has humbled himself before Me? Because he has humbled himself before Me, I will not bring the calamity in his days. In the days of his son I will bring the calamity." God already knew He was not doing it then but later at the time of his son 2 Kings 9:25-26). God is Omniscience.
---MarkV. on 10/19/08


There are in our Midst "the living dead" known only to Christ"He invites these out of HIS Mercy to change B/c of His love and Desire to change man, but man's stubborn choice stands in the way of such change.so the saying man dies TWICE.
---Mic on 10/17/08


God does not work through time, He is outside of time.
---MarkV. on 10/17/08

No. There isn't any time with God.
Time only exist in our feeble mind.
You and I dwell in what we think is time.
But, with the Trinity, time is nonexistance.
---Nicole on 10/17/08


Manny, I was responding to MarkV's post.
And when the time comes for you too to die, you will die and nothing you do or say or how long you pray will keep you here longer then the appointed time.---MarkV. 10/15/08

Please read 1KING 21:17-29 God intended to kill Ahab.
But, what happened that spared Ahab' life?
V 29: It was Ahab's actions after he heard God was going to kill him.
29 God:"Have you seen that Ahab has HUMBLED himself before ME? SINCE he has humbled himself before me, I WILL NOT BRING THE EVIL IN HIS TIME.

God, Elijah, Ahab knew death was soon.
MarkV is the only one who didn't think so.
THE TIME WAS SET!
BUT, TIME WAS CHANGED BECAUSE OF AHAB!
GOD DIDN'T CHANGE, AHAB IS THE ONE WHO CHANGED!
---Nicole on 10/17/08


Nicole, (1) you said "they had two appointed time to die." How can you be certain that they were "suppose to die" on their "first appointed time?" Only God knows the time of every living thing on this planet. and (2) "if we repent, God is true...and grants mercy." I think youre confusing (physical) death with punishment. It doesnt necessarily mean that you died because you refused to repent. Sometimes death is God's way of showing you mercy. For example: you are an old person, youre suffering from arthritis, high blood pressure, and maybe some kidney failure, if you die, could it not possibly mean that God was merciful and didn't want you to suffer much longer from the pain of all your sickness?
---manny on 10/17/08




Nicole, the reason you think you can change the time of death is because you believe you can change what has been written already. He knows the beginning and the end. He saw it all before the foundations of the world. Knows who will die and who will live, where, and to whom the parents will be, and whether they will be His children or not. So nothing changes for God.
You might not know as I can see you don't. You might think you can change what God has ordain already, but you cannot. Whatever decision you make God already knew that decision was coming. All your idol worships are recorded already and your refusal to accept the Truth from God's Word is alreay recorded. God does not work through time, He is outside of time.
---MarkV. on 10/17/08


Continue"
If you want to be found not worshipping idols and believing in the Word of God you will have to change your ways, because God does not change His.
Make sure you are recorded on the list for the "Judgment Seat of Christ" where rewards will come for your loyalty to Christ not to Mary or Bob or Peter, but for Christ. You want to go to that Judgment Seat and not found in the list at the "Great White Throne of Judgment" where all those who had the knowledge of the Lord Jesus and rejected Him and worshipped other idols and trashed the sufficiency of the death of Christ on the Cross by not believing in Him by faith.
---MarkV. on 10/17/08


MarkV: "the fact that they were priest, praying the rosary, celibate is not the reason they lived."

Mark, you display amazing audacity in telling God what He can and can't do, especially in light of the facts. If God wanted to save them because of who they were and what they were doing, who are you to contradict Him?

And no, God doesn't change - He knew that He would save those priests before He created the universe. But it's up to you to seek the truth to find out why He did, but you never will without an attitude adjustment.

P.S. I love how you worked child molestors into your argument - pathetic.
---Luke65 on 10/16/08


MarkV, how you love double talk.
The stories from the Bible proves they had TWO appointed times to die!
Why 2? Because of the ACTIONS of the men!
Man changed his way and thought.

So God changed His TIME of taking action.
If the Men didn't do anything after God gave them a death date. They would have died on the first date set by God.
They Changed so God granted Mercy according to their response.
Plus, God ways never changes.
It is called Mercy!
He is always Merciful.
We are the ones who change.
If we repent, God is true to His Person and grants Mercy.
If we refuse to repent, God is still True to His Person and grants Mercy by letting us CHOOSE TO GO TO HELL: FREE WILL.

He forces no one!
---Nicole on 10/16/08


no matter what...God did intervene to save and not let these priests die in this Hiroshima blast. But God did let thousands around them die. That is a fact.
The reason I feel is because God wants others to pray and come to Him as these priests have done. He wants to make it known to all.
The scientists all 200 of them still can't say it's no short of a miracle based on all the scientific evidence.

And so yes, God wanted these priests to live. And because of the circumstances, it is no short of God's Divine intervention that stopped them from dying like all the others.
No short of God's will...to us " A Miracle"
Praise the Lord
---paul on 10/16/08




Nicole, I cannot talk to Jonah. They have died. They died at the appointed time God had for them. They only lasted longer because that was not their time to die. All in the purpose and will of God. Many have prayed for long periods of time and still die when God say's it is their time. Even children die by molesters and nothing can stop that death from coming. The dying will happen, how they die is a different story.
If you believe God will change the appointed time, then God changes, and God is the same, yesterday, today and forever. What is to one a miracle, to the others it is death. All depends from what perspective you are judging the action.
---MarkV. on 10/16/08


Nothing that you do or say will keep you here longer then the appointed time-- MarkV

Tell that to Jonah and the Ninevites!
3 days Jonah preached on behalf of God that Ninevites would be no more.
God was going to kill them.
Jonah was mad at God for changing His mind in destroying them because they repented!

Ahab tore his garments and put on sackcloth over his bare flesh. He fasted, slept in the sackcloth, and went about subdued when he heard God intention?
What did God say in response?
"Have you seen that Ahab has humbled himself before me? SINCE HE HAS HUMBLED HIMSELF BEFORE ME, I WILL NOT BRING THE EVIL IN HIS TIME." 1 KING 21:17-29

Stop speaking on God's behalf.
You don't know Him.
---Nicole on 10/16/08


Paul, the fact that they were priest, praying the rosary, celibate is not the reason they lived. Many a great Christian have died by the hands of evil man, this true Christians were never worshipper of idols or saints yet they too died at their appointed time. God does not take a life and give a life by anything we do, it is for His own purpose and will we last a long as we do. And when the time comes for you too to die, you will die and nothing you do or say or how long you pray will keep you here longer then the appointed time.
---MarkV. on 10/15/08


Mark"What you call miracle isn't a miracle in the eyes of God He already knew they wouldn't die yet"

God is the source of power of all miracles. He controls all miracles. Miracles come through Him.
Mark"What you want to convey to us, is give the glory to them for praying the rosary"
no Mark all Glory and honor go to the Father always.
It's"thank you Lord for the miracle of letting these priests miraculously live through the Hiroshima bomb without a scratch!"
The fact these men were priests-celibate-praying the Rosary everyday-offering their lives to God Praying many prayers-sacrificing material things, living solely for God's will alone---is the point here! God's Miracle to make others see Him.
---paul on 10/14/08


This is from a Catholic web news site.
ROME, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Giordano Bruno, a monk
burnt for heresy in 1600 in Rome's Campo dei Fiori square.---Samuel on 10/13/08

I noticed you still had more room for more writing if you wanted to write more.
But you didn't.
You left out the most important piece.
Could it be because you don't want anyone to really find out the truth?
I goggled Giordano Bruno, and Not one Catholic website came up.
A much of Protestant Authors and Websites came up.

Please, Samuel tell us the name of this Catholic website!

Plus, give the year of Jan 22 of Reuters?
I goggled only Rome, Jan 22 Reuters, many years, but no reference to Bruno.
Can't we be fair?
---Nicole on 10/14/08


This is from a Catholic web news site.

ROME, Jan 22 (Reuters) - The Vatican permitted scrutiny of one of the most notorious periods in Roman Catholic Church history on Thursday when it opened the archives of the department once known as
the Inquisition. Giordano Bruno, a monk
burnt for heresy in 1600 in Rome's Campo dei Fiori square. It escalated as Church officials began to count on civil authorities to fine, imprison and even torture heretics. It reached its height in the 16th century to counter the Reformation.
---Samuel on 10/13/08


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Contiuned.

Inquisition and Index, housed in two rooms, had suffered badly down the centuries and were now ``modest.'' Pagano said the Church had a tradition of burning many of the most delicate heresy files and the Inquisition's archive was almost entirely burned on Pope Paul IV's death in 1559. The documents were hauled off to Paris under Napoleon's rule in 1810 and Pagano said more than 2,000 volumes were burned. The Vatican said the archives now held around 4,500 volumes, of which only a small part referred to heresy trials. The rest detail theological controversies and spiritual questions.
---Samuel on 10/13/08


Paul, you don't get my point. Everyone death is set for a time. No one escapes that death. If those priest time had come, they too would have died. God allows us to avoid many deaths in life only to bring us to the time He purposes. That time is set in the books. What you call a miracle is not a miracle in the eyes of God, He already knew they would not die yet. And knew the death of the others. But it has nothing whatsoever to do with them praying the rosary.
What you wanted to convey to us, is give the glory to them for praying the rosary just as many of you give glory to the apparitions. But it is God who get's the glory.
---MarkV. on 10/13/08


The RCC released the records of the Inquisition of 300 years 2 years ago.
Several Leaders of the Jewish, Protestants and Historians were able to look at all the records.
You didn't hear anything did you? Nicole

I heard about it. Watched specials on it and have read some translations. They show the murder of thousands of people for witchcraft, spitting on the cross and how many tortures were done. They said the amounts were less then Protestant history. But also they admitted over half the records were lost.

Yes the Protestants exagerrated to 40 million instead of the less then 20 Million. So that is okay with you? The RCC also apoligized for some of them. Why apoligize if they did not do it?
---Samuel on 10/13/08


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Maybe you are looking at the cross wrong.
Rethink your thinking.
look at the cross with the eyes of thankfulness not of quilt.
****

the eyes of thankfulness?

where does it say that in scripture that we are to look at Constantines Sword that he created and the lies of his mother??

the cross represents a SWORD NOT Christ death

to HONOR Christ we OBSERVE the passover ONCE per YEAR as HE instructed

we don't hang little swords on our necks calling them crosses and USING idols as a rememberance of HIM

when the Holy Spirit dwells in your mind one needs NO IDOLS to remember Christ gave salvation and we will reign with him as Kings and Priests in His Kingdom on earth
---Rhonda on 10/11/08


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Paul:Sometimes I ponder and think that our biggest cross is our Christian brothers, sisters who dissent with us, as is evident here.Are we a family (flock)or in namely appearances only.The most important ingredient missing is, Jesus' way .He is the shepherd.Those who run here there and everywhere have expressed this in no uncertain terms.Anyfurther observations?
---Mic on 10/11/08


mark- "God has a time for been born and a time for dying. No one escapes those times. "

many have been raised from the dead, even today Mark. And that is escaping death for the time being..therefore a miracle that God let them come back to life on earth.

A Mircale that God let those priests live after the Bomb at Hiroshima exploded! Even over 200 Scientists are baffled. Prayer changes things Mark. God listens. He had a reason for letting those priests survive without a scratch. Witness testimony's of this event are powerful tools for conversions!

I am sorry you can't see this Mark.
---paul on 10/11/08


Don't forget that catholics also believe that the priest has to intercede for them with God which 1Tim.2:5 dispells and they also pray to a slew of people for intercession,which takes us right back to the same scripture.They worship graven images as well as the pope so really they are a pretty un-biblical religion full of false teachings.
---ron on 10/11/08


Paul & Nicole & whoever else that has chosen to wear a cross, IF you need a cross to remind/HELP keep you faithful, go for it, that's on you guy's...

Doesn't it seem/sound like a lack of faith on your part, by wearing a cross for those reasons?
Have you ever read about "NOT" making "ANY" graven images of God(Probably goes for his Son too) or any other thing, as far as that goes?

I tattoo'd a cross on my arm when i was 12,
to brand myself as a Christian(follower of the way).
Did you know we was called that, before we were called Christans in Antioch?
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 10/11/08


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Duane Dudley Martin posting on 10/6...you are condemning people for wearing a cross and say they are putting Christ back on the cross by wearing it...aren't you,I and everyone else doing the same every time we continue to sin?Lighten up dude,its a reminder of the work he did on the cross for us all!
---ron on 10/11/08


We "are" to bear our cross daily, But, that has NOTHING to do with a little cross around our necks....

IT SERVES AS A REMINDER- keeping our focus on God all day long..those little things help!

and the RCC has all 3
the crucified Christ- nO great love is this
The Risen Christ - empty cross- He is not on it
And the Divine Mercy- Christ Ressurected- He is risen Body - soul - spirit.

You don't know what you are talking about.
---paul on 10/10/08


DDM, Good for you!
But, for me: fogotten history is repeated history.
I am not afraid to see again and again the death that I caused my Savior.
It isn't to remind me of Him.
No, it is to remind me of my sins and helps prevent me of being selfish and committing more sins that is like salt added to His wounds.

Why do you think Jesus chose to always bear the markings of death forever in Heaven?

Because it shows me just how much He loves me and what He was willing to do to Save me at any cost to Him.

Maybe you are looking at the cross wrong.
Rethink your thinking.
look at the cross with the eyes of thankfulness not of quilt.
---Nicole on 10/10/08


Paul, as I said before I don't doubt they lived. That is not the problem here. In many disasters many live. And many more died. What you were trying to convey is that they lived because they were praying the rosary.
If that was the case then God must have change the time of their death and allowed them to live longer because they prayed the rosary. Just not possible.
God has a time for been born and a time for dying. No one escapes those times. What God has written is closed. But again you will argue as Nicole that the church came first and then the Bible second and they wrote the Bible so Scripture cannot be given as proof since the RCC has final authority.
---MarkV. on 10/10/08


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I'm sorry, But, I don't need to be reminded of My Brothers(Jesus) Dead, Tortured, spat on, beaten, ripped apart body on the Cross to keep my Faith(Solid as a Rock), I look to the living(RISEN) Yahshua(Jesus) who's returning soon, and you would do well to do the same....

We "are" to bear our cross daily, But, that has NOTHING to do with a little cross around our necks....

Is this what you'll say to God(?),
It helped, "TO" remind me of your Son, Yahshua(Jesus)?
You have your Bible and your Heart for that!

"IF" he was beheaded like John T Baptist, would you wear a sword around your neck???
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 10/8/08


DDM: "Why would you want to keep the IMAGE of my Dead or dying Brother on the cross?"

"We preach Christ crucified" (1 Cor. 1:23), don't you? Or do you believe in words alone - no images, even though they speak a thousand words?

DDM: "Don't you know how much that cross greived him, and now you wear it around like a banner of salavation..."

Of course we know, we're reminded of it every time we look at a crucifix. Christ, on the other hand, doesn't need to see a crucifix to be reminded.
---Luke65 on 10/6/08


frances008: "Nicole, please elucidate for me, where it says in the Bible that priests were given the power to turn the bread and wine into the body and blood of Our Lord."

"And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "THIS IS MY BODY given for you, DO THIS in remembrance of me." (Luke 22:19)
---Luke65 on 10/6/08


Samuel, are you serious? You believe that vampires exist? They never die as long as they drink blood?

The RCC released the records of the Inquisition of 300 years 2 years ago.
Several Leaders of the Jewish, Protestants and Historians were able to look at all the records.
You didn't hear anything did you? Why?
Because history's lies are more interesting than the truth.

I am not a Bible Scholar, but I know Baronius pulled out passages.
Kill and eat is speaking about unclean animals.

I goggled your information.
It is written by Protestants.
How did they get the records from the RCC?
How come the Religious Leaders didn't speak on the Inquisition horrible tortures and killings?
Because it didn't happen!!
---Nicole on 10/6/08


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Mark -"Paul, I am not surprise that people lived through those bombs, just as I am not surprise some lived through the bombs of 9/11. Even in an accident some live and some die"

It wasn't just any bomb Mark. It was the biggest nuclear attack in human history!
I am sure you know what happens to people when this occurred. And all people in the area the priests survived were dead. All of them.

All Glory an honor always go to the Father Mark. That is never an issue. The priests claimed they believed their prayers invoked God's Mercy on them to be spared. They have no other explanation. Neither do 200 scientists to this day.
---paul on 10/6/08


Paul, I am not surprise that people lived through those bombs, just as I am not surprise some lived through the bombs of 9/11. Even in an accident some live and some die. But to suggest that because they were praying the rosary they didn't die is pretty rediculous. You have to remember there were many other Catholics around there who might have been home, at school, or whatever, what about them? Why didn't God save them? Was it because they were not praying and the others were? Get real Paul. you want to give the glory to the priest and the rosary when it is God who determines who lives and who dies. He is not guided by what you do or not do. He has the time for each one to live and die, and it will not change by anything we do.
---MarkV. on 10/6/08


some priest were saved by praying the rosary in Japan when the bombs were dropped and they did not get killed because of their prayers to the rosary, what a miracle, and yet half million others died even Catholics who were not praying the rosary. I guess they were bad Catholics.
---MarkV. on 10/6/08

it is well documented it was at least 6 priests survived the Hiroshima blast only one mile from the explosion. Only 4 names were recovered. These priests ,very devout, praying every day and praying the Rosary every day, were spared and baffled 200 scientists for the past 50 years. Look it up yourself. Miracle at Hiroshima.
God Bless you Mark.
---paul on 10/6/08


Neither a cross or a Bible stops demons. Remeber the Jews who tried to use words they did not believe. It is the power of GOD alone that stops them.
---Samuel on 10/6/08

Well , priests do use those objects during exorcisms. And invoke the Holy Spirit to cast out demons. And it works. They don't claim the power is coming from them, but from God.

In the RRC, we have the corpus Christi, the empty cross and the Divine Mercy the risen Christ. All 3 are relevant to our redeemer! Because through all these brought us our Salvation! Thank you Jesus!
---paul on 10/6/08


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Wow, I can't say everything I wanted too since it is too long. So, I had to shorten this up a lot. All of us were taught things as a kid, now it is up to us to figure out the truth for ourselves as we grow. I am not sure what scripture it is, but God talks about how he doesn't want a Luke warm Christian or Cold or he will spew you with his own mouth. So, with that being said. God also says he will be the only one to Judge. My Christian family it is okay to try and teach, we as Christians know better.
Melissa
---Melissa on 10/6/08


Try looking at it this way, what If we wore hangmen's noose's around our necks, can you imagine how many people you would OFFEND?
NOW, Imagine how OFFENDED Yahshua IS for you putting him back on the cross from which he died on by the hands of the Italians(Romans).
Why would you want to keep the IMAGE of my Dead or dying Brother on the cross?

Don't you know how much that cross greived him, and now you wear it around like a banner of salavation...

OH. what a WICKED WEB WE'VE WOVE for the path that we have chose, remember children HE HAS ROSE!

I'm guilty too, I have many cross's, one of them a 100 yrs. old...Forgive me Father...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 10/6/08


Mark:-Please, Re-read your last post what is wrong with it?While acknowledging the Miracle you condemn those who you Think were BAD .Would you call that Judgemental?Would you still call the Rosary idol worship or your Post IDLE GOSSIP!"Yes God will Judge every idle word a man shall speak when asked to render an account,on that day of Judgement.This is offered to you as a Reflection,not a threat of condemnation.
---Mic on 10/6/08


Samuel, if your cross has a corpse on it, then your God didn't rise from the dead yet because My Jesus rose from the dead and is no longer on the cross. Amen?
---donna8365

That was Nicoles statment to me. The Cross in my church is empty.

Samuel, U can submit that U THINK many worship images.Nicole

When the people talk about the statues saving them or selling their house it seems to be a safe bet.


As for Demons. No magic
The Cross is shown to an evil spirit with faith in Christ. Nicole

Neither a cross or a Bible stops demons. Remeber the Jews who tried to use words they did not believe. It is the power of GOD alone that stops them.
---Samuel on 10/6/08


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Baronius addressed Paul V.: "Blessed father, the ministry of Peter is twofold, to feed and to kill. For the Lord said to him, 'Feed my sheep', and he also heard a voice from heaven, saying, 'Kill and eat.' To feed sheep is to take care of obedient, faithful Christians, who in meekness, humility, and piety show themselves to be sheep and lambs.

But when he has no longer to do with sheep and lambs, but with lions, and other wild, refractory, and troublesome beasts, Peter is commanded to kill them, that is to say, to attack, fight, and slaughter them, until there be none such left."1 Quoted by W. R. Rule, History of the Inquisition, ii, 208.

The RCC killed witches and vampires. If vampires are fake who did they murder?
---Samuel on 10/6/08


I suggest for those who don't call worship worship and call it something else, they should go to a Shrine in person. And look to the members in what they are doing and to whom they are praying to. You will have prove they worship many saints and beg for miracles. The very worship of a rosary is idol worshipping for many of the prayers are for Mary. Paul suggest that some priest were saved by praying the rosary in Japan when the bombs were dropped and they did not get killed because of their prayers to the rosary, what a miracle, and yet half million others died even Catholics who were not praying the rosary. I guess they were bad Catholics.
---MarkV. on 10/6/08


Frances:-Since when did age play a part in salvation?If you notice in the start of each revelation The message is from different explainations of God. to the 7 churches .But go to Ch4:2-11 supported by Isa6:1-3Read about the true God Lord of Hosts.He is the one to worship not the perceived ones in the 7 churches.PERCEIVED by who Mankind.Jesus had His "one" church one doctrine This then is HIS EDICT.Follow ME, Love and keep my commandments .This is not against you personally but in General for all including Yours truly.
---MIC on 10/4/08


Paul: "Wow, It truly amazes me some of the bold judgments being texted here."

Yes, it's sad to see - especially from ex-Catholics.

All ex-Catholics, behold:

"Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord... anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself." (1 Corinthians 11:27-29)

Continued
---Luke65 on 10/4/08


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**
The ring is a marriage ring of the Pope or Bishop to the Church.
***

...again no small wonder rcc is drowning in their pagan rituals ...Gods Holy Bible does not support this pagan practice ...Apostles were not wearing rings and kissing them

further ...Christ will marry his church

when you understand that your religious leaders are married to a building "their church" you will understand Christ will not be looking for those leaders to divorce their church and marry HIM

Christ comes for ONE spotless bride (an unmarried bride)

Christ marries HIS church ONCE when He returns to establish HIS Kingdom on earth

Christ won't marry anyone who is already married to their religious system...
---Rhonda on 10/3/08


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Robyn, you have made a grave and misleading statement. A lie. Bearing false witness against your own fellow Christians. Repent.
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Robyn was not bearing false or lying she speaks Truth

...rcc USES Gods Word NOT TRUTH contained in Gods Truth - evident by all their man made rituals Constantine mixed up with pagan traditions which rcc clings ...serve rituals or serve God ...they choose their rituals (Mark 7:7)

this difference rcc does not comprehend because they submit their minds and wills to a flesh and blood man

TRUE Christians serve Christ in Spirit and Truth and are free to worship HIM
---Rhonda on 10/3/08


Nicole, please elucidate for me, where it says in the Bible that priests were given the power to turn the bread and wine into the body and blood of Our Lord. Surely this is what the reformation was about. The people would receive the Word and know the truth. It had to be stopped or the priests would lose their assumed powers. Science falsely called such, took over and undermined the Bible.
---frances008 on 10/3/08


Nicole, I love you, and I love your zealousness. I think and believe you are saved. However, you are mistaken about the Catholic Church. This is not your fault, but the fault of the devil. You and your kind convinced me that there is indeed a purgatory, because I believe you will be purged, and possibly I will too, of all that stubble that we picked up on our walk through the world.
---frances008 on 10/3/08


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Mic, I know you are not young, and I respect you and think you are saved. However, there are new things to know these days. For instance, it is the end of the Church Age. If you read Revelation you will see that we have been through the final church, the Laodicians, who said 'We have need of nothing' when in fact they were blind, naked etc. (Rev 3.17). Now is the time to distance yourself from Church-going and start seeking the Holy Spirit in the Word.
---frances008 on 10/3/08


Samuel, U can submit that U THINK many worship images.
Just like a stranger looking at me kissing my cross is thinking I am worship it, so U ASSUME the same with the other Catholic.

Vampires do not exist, Fiction. The Author decided to use a cross, silver stake or light to kill this fake character.

As for Demons. No magic
Mark 3:23-30 Magic to drive out satan?
V 23 "How can Satan drive out Satan?"
V 26 "if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, that is the end of him.

The Cross is shown to an evil spirit with faith in Christ.
The evil spirits knows it isn't the object used as a weapon against him, but the representation of the object.
Just stop judging others.
---Nicole on 10/3/08


Catholics greet higher-up clerics by kissing their rings.---frances008

Yes, Catholics do greet the Pope and Bishop by kissing the ring.
U assume we are worshipping the Pope or Bishop by this gesture.
Stop judging and you will not be judge.

The ring is a marriage ring of the Pope or Bishop to the Church.
Note, the kiss is to the ring, not the cheek of the other.
They have the power GIVEN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT to invoke Him as commanded by Jesus to bring Jesus present in the Bread and Wine during the Holy Mass. John 6

Only ordain Men have this Authority given by Jesus.

When you stop kissing each others and babies, then preach to me.

Follow your own demands first before telling others to follow them.
---Nicole on 10/3/08


Paul,I know all Catholics do not kiss statues but I am sure ,most do. If you do not kiss, then I was not speaking to you. I speak boldly for Christ when possible, but no harm intended, to fellow Christians.
It is no way for a Catholic to be saved unless they give up Mary-worship,get saved and leave that evil religion behind. Since this is like asking the popes and cardinals or whomever is molesting these young innocent altar boys and ruining their lives, then my point is clear. These silly rituals will never stop or go away.
---Robyn on 10/3/08


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Samuel, if your cross has a corpse on it, then your God didn't rise from the dead yet because My Jesus rose from the dead and is no longer on the cross. Amen?
---donna8365 on 10/3/08


**Catholics also greet higher-up clerics by kissing their rings. Check it out. **

It's showing honor and respect to the office, not the person. Check it out.

However, I've noticed that, at least in America, respect for an office runs very low among Protestants.
---katavasia on 10/3/08


Frances, I am not infallible. I don't believe anyone is. Only Christ is infallible. He is God and His Word is Truth, always. I preach the gospel of Christ. Though we both don't agree with every doctrinal teaching, we agree with most of it. You and I are different in that you have studied and put time in different things then I have, that is why you speak of so many other things then I do. What we have learned and believe about Scripture is what we have been taught by the Spirit and what we have experience in our lives. Many here are strong in speaking of the law and others are not. Some are strong in the Sovereignty of God and others are not. Many upon many care less about the real meat of Scripture, they just want to argue.
---MarkV. on 10/3/08


---frances008 on 10/1/08 said:you are listening to the devil. In that case God never even wanted you because of some sin you love, perhaps it is that you idolize humans over God.

Wow, It truly amazes me some of the bold judgments being texted here.
#1 God loves us all..so much so that he came for the sinners..all of us...so much that he gave His only Son.

#2 There is only One God. That is clear

#3 Why would I listen to the devil, when I love Jesus Christ, and accept Him as my Savior, redeemer and Lord? I rebuke the devil.

#4 Inanimate objects are symbols of our Love for the Lord Jesus not idols.

no brainwashing here.
---paul on 10/3/08


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Frances:-Since you asked,One thing you have right,You and M/V are both seeking the difference is you already knew the truth but discarded it due to a seed of Doubt planted by the deceiver.Now you are wandering seeking Truth each -YOUR WAY, using Him as a guiding star.When He was there all along. "He who eats my Body, I live in him, and he in Me"That is HIS WAY.May you find the peace you seek in HIS love and Your contrition.
---MIC on 10/3/08


I CAN kiss the cross my God picked to die on to SAVE me.
This doesn't mean I worship the cross.
Except my cross has a corpse on it.
Neither is worshipped by me.

Plus, when the person told you that his cross saves him. I think he was saying it was the symbol of his Salvation. Nicole

I am glad Nicole you do not worship the cross. Only a person in their heart knows if this is true. But I submit that many in the RCC do worship images. Many come from image worshipping cultures and so do just as their ancestors. Remember Crosses are magic they keep away vampires and demons.

I spoke to the person and and told hem what JESUS did. He had not understood that before. Objects cannot save. Only GOD saves.
---Samuel on 10/3/08


MIC, do you regard MarkV as infallible? Hopefully, we are all moving towards a better understanding of the world. MarkV is not a gatekeeper is he? For instance, is he the last call before I am booted off for non-cooperation with the authorities over you. No, I think MarkV is just seeking the truth as I am. You would agree with him because he preaches another type of 'exclusive' gospel. Jesus was an 'includer' and an 'enabler' not an 'excluder' and 'obstructor' like priests, fanatics, etc.
---frances008 on 10/2/08


Yes Samuel, people in all religion do odd things. But, one should never blame the Leaders of these religions as if they instructed these odd things.

Many things are misleading to others.
Eating a saugage biscuits misleads others.
But I still have the right to eat my saugage. I can't live for others.
Thats why Jesus told us not to judge others. 99% of the time we are wrong in our judgements.

I CAN kiss the cross my God picked to die on to SAVE me.
This doesn't mean I worship the cross.
Except my cross has a corpse on it.
Neither is worshipped by me.

Plus, when the person told you that his cross saves him. I think he was saying it was the symbol of his Salvation.
---Nicole on 10/2/08


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When the whole church is apostacizing, as predicted by John in Revelation, then the few of us who sound different are telling the truth, Mic. Which Mark do you refer to? If it is MarkV, we agree on more and more these days. I needed to do some study, which I did, to get closer to the truth. I am still not 100 per cent out of my Catholic brainwashing, I know that. But I am going in the right direction.
---frances008 on 10/2/08


Catholics also greet higher-up clerics by kissing their rings. Check it out.
---frances008 on 10/2/08


Frances :-You preach a gospel of your own even Mark declines.However let me remind you "Those who are not with me are against me." These are the words of Our Saviour Heed them.
---MIC on 10/2/08


Why condemn Catholics for kissing statutes when I've seen Protesants say prayers to pieces of cloth? katavasia

Protestants should not say prayers to cloth any more then Catholics to statues. Both are equally wrong.

This Death is the reason we are Saved.
The Resurrection can not happen without the death on the cross. Nicole

Here we agree.

I can't kiss a cross that symbolizies the death of my God who freely put down His life for my Salvation? Nicole

Some people actually venerate the object making it an idol. What depends here is the heart. But the action can be misleading to others. I have had wicked people tell me that the cross on their neck saves them. They look to idols for salvation not JESUS.
---Samuel on 10/2/08


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Why condemn Catholics for kissing statutes when I've seen Protesants say prayers to pieces of cloth?
---katavasia on 10/2/08


Yes Mima, the cross is an instrument of death.
How do you think Jesus died?
I kiss the instrument Jesus chose to to deliver His Death.

Glorying what happened on the cross is the instrument itself.
What do you mean what happened on cross?
DEATH is what happened on the Cross.
This Death is the reason we are Saved.
The Resurrection can not happen without the death on the cross.

People can kiss a trophy, the American flag, pictures, their children and etc, but I can't kiss a cross that symbolizies the death of my God who freely put down His life for my Salvation?

Are they worshipping the those items and persons they are kissing?
But, I am worshipping a cross?
Does that make any sense to you?
Not to ME!
---Nicole on 10/1/08


Paul, if you truly are a sheep, then God will enlighten you. I suggest that you be an excellent Catholic, like St Paul was an excellent Jew. That way you will eventually be brought to the truth. It does not matter what false religion you are in, God will lead you to the truth through it, and out of that false religion. If He does not lead you out of it, then you are not a sheep, you are listening to the devil. In that case God never even wanted you because of some sin you love, perhaps it is that you idolize humans over God.
---frances008 on 10/1/08


MIMA:-Have you ever heard the expression and command"Pick up your cross and follow me "A kiss is an acceptance of an agreement.like a seal to a contract.Like in Marriage "Now you may kiss the Bride".But you will make it a mockery,and you say you love God.How can you mock the God you love.Judas did that."Judas Dost thou betray the son of man with a Kiss"
---MIC on 10/1/08


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Paul you are correct not all Catholics kiss statues, however as I'm sure you understand and know many many do. Catholic Churches around the world are filled at this very hour with people crawling on their knees and kissing the fleet of statues. This is not something I've heard but something that I have seen. Also world travelers will quickly understand when I use the term of "low peasants" which is a synonym for the very very poor people in the Roman Catholic Church. A wise Latin American man once told me this, Spain came and stole our gold, married our women, and left us their religion and the last is the reason that poverty is so great in Latin America.
---mima on 10/1/08


Robyn- you are saying such nonsense so boldly!Wow. saying-"Christ left that church many years ago, so to speak. They don't even know it! That's the saddest part of all. Even closer to the truth: Christ was never there." To presume such a man made thought and promote such a thing is terrible.I am Catholic, baptized and Love the Lord Jesus Christ as many of my church members do. because of that He is in my heart and lives in me. Jesus said "where ever 2 or 3 come together in my Name, there I am with them" Robyn, you have made a grave and misleading statement. A lie. Bearing false witness against your own fellow Christians. Repent.
Not all Catholics kiss statues.
---paul on 10/1/08


Catholics are into a lot of rituals and traditions. I think kissing is just some man-made ritual thought of by another Catholic to make them feel more religious and closer to God. Guess what? It does not work. God is not pleased with this type behavior. They(catholics) are viewed as Pharisees by God. White-washed empty tombs who are disobedient and refuse to follow the plan He has in place already. Man has devised many evil schemes to get around doing the will of God and God only!Man wants to do his own thing. This is what the Catholic church is into. Christ left that church many years ago, so to speak. They don't even know it! That's the saddest part of all. Even closer to the truth: Christ was never there.
---Robyn on 10/1/08


Nicole stated,"I kiss my cross all the time." Is this not kissing an instrument of death? Rather than glorying in what happened on the cross?
---mima on 9/30/08


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Everyone is aware that high dignitaries and low peasants of the RCC kiss statues. And exactly what is it they kiss?---Mima

I take issue with your wording of 'low peasants' of the RCC.
What's with this 'low peasants'?
When some Americans kiss the American Flag are they worshipping this flag?

After winning a game and they kiss the Trophy, are they worshipping it?

Why do you attempt to distort fact and emotions?

I kiss my cross all the time.
Do you think that I think this cross of mine is god itself?

No, I am showing my lOVE FOR JESUS and His Actions He took to Save me!

Just as when Men kiss the pictures of their girlfriends!
---Nicole on 9/29/08


The people in catholocism,them bowing down to kiss a ring,feet,any graven image,idol, even worship Mary the mother of Jesus,as such IS an Abomination to All-Mighty God. This man's teaching-doings & NOT God's,He has Nothing to do with such. Such good people but So Blind spiritually. Matt 15 v 9.
---Lawrence on 9/28/08


This might apply to many of the folks in our churches who profess to be christians. I am not sure how you can use this scripture to make your point. This scripture talks about people who know God but they do not glorify God, and the RC folks that I know recognize and glorify God as far above them and recognize that He is the creator of the whole universe. Let us not be so quick to proclaim them not of God. Let's let God do that.
---marge on 12/21/07


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