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Baptism To Get Spiritual Gifts

Do you have to have the Baptism of the Holy Spirit in order to have spiritual gifts given to you? If yes, please give scripture reference. If no, please give scripture too. Thank you.

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Yes.

Following Jesus Baptism of The Holy Spirit, Jesus became the vessel of The Holy Spirit on earth.
Before that, The Holy Spirit came upon people from time to time, but no one other than Jesus was the vessel of The Holy Spirit.

When Jesus Christ sent The Holy Spirit at Pentecost, each of us was given the privilege of receiving the Baptism of The Holy Spirit, and becoming a filled vessel.
---Michelle on 2/8/08


Jesus went into the wilderness and He was tempted by satan.
He resisted the devil and did not fall for trickery.
We can do the same if we follow the Word and walk in The Spirit.
---Michelle on 2/8/08


The greatest gift is the gift of salvation.
If you want power to resist the devil, we need The Holy Spirit.

Many will accept Jesus Christ but they reject the Baptism of The Holy Spirit. It was only for Pentecost.

If that was true, then much of the Bible could be discounted as being only for those that lived 2000 years ago. Jesus is the same and so is The Holy Spirit. He's for today and so is the Baptism.
---Michelle on 2/8/08


upc does not belive jesus is a it we know who he is . And he is the Holy Spirit also
---betty on 11/26/07


A friend invited me to a prayer meeting at the RCC.

I attended many prayer services before I realised that those Christians were very unique and different from what I was accustomed to. I wanted the Holy Spirit that they had received. He was not a thing or an it, but Godliness with power. It was about six months when I realised that I desperately wanted Him, The Holy Spirit that they know is Godliness with power.
---Michelle on 11/24/07




There were four mature Holy Spirit filled Christian men that laid their hands on me for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
From that moment, my life has never been the same. My spiritual eyes were thrown open. I attended that RCC weekly prayer meeting for years, it was open to everyone in the community. I tried to remain in my mainline church, but found it to be repressed and dead.
---Michelle on 11/24/07


I moved away, now live where there are few churches, I have not found a prayer group like that. I'm thankful for the 14 years that I had with that community of believers from all denominations. The Holy Spirit was in charge, there was order without repression.
There were deliverances, healings and miracles.
---Michelle on 11/24/07


To all those have believe you have received all at the moment of salvation/water baptism but you do not have evidence of any of the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit. Find yourself some Holy Spirit filled Christians that have faith in The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Let them lay their hands on you and pray for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Receive, knowing that God gives good gifts to His children and not a counterfeit.
---Michelle on 11/24/07


Do not go to a United Pentecostal Church to receive the Baptism or anywhere where they believe The Holy Spirit is an it, thing, atmospheric condition. Do not receive the Baptism from a church that believes the Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ or a false oneness church.
Find yourself spiritually mature Christians that understand exactly Who HE IS and those who can help you on your Holy Spirit filled, Bible believing, follower of Jesus Christ, Father led walk.
---Michelle on 11/24/07


If I had received any of the gifts before the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, I was certainly not aware of any of them prior to the day that I did receive the Baptism.
There are two baptisms, water and The Holy Spirit.
If you are hungry for more of God, receive Holy Spirit Baptism and report back what happens to you. It's a day from night, alive from dead, sharp from dull, hot from cold, seeing from blinded, and love from apathy difference.
---Michelle on 11/24/07




Donna, I was attending one of those churches that believes you receive everything at the moment of salvation and that water baptism covers all, including the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
It was many years down the road before someone explained the Baptism of the Holy Spirit to me. You won't hear about the Holy Spirit baptism in mainline churches and you see little of the nine gifts in mainline churches.
---Michelle on 11/24/07


Gifts are given by God's grace, not through baptism."Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith,...."
Romans 12:6 (KJV)
---wivv on 11/21/07


Gods elect naturally have the holy spirit indwelling in them. Speaking in Tongues as a sign having the Holy Spirit is a heresy peddled by Pentecostals and Charismatics.
---notlaw99 on 11/21/07


The Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

My life changed overnight. I had no idea what spiritual warfare, strongholds or what a deliverance was until I received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
---Michelle on 11/21/07


1 John 4:2,3

Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, every spirit that confesses not Jesus is come in the flesh is not of God, and is the spirit of the antichrist.
---Michelle on 11/21/07


By the power of the Holy Spirit, what is of the Holy Spirit, even if it is for correction, you will find...

Conviction
Repentance
Peace
Unity by the Holy Spirit

When it is of the spirit of antichrist you will find

Confusion
Condemnation
Strife
Divivision
---Michelle on 11/21/07


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If you want the Holy Spirit, receive the Baptism. He will give you His rain/reign, His peace, His instruction and direction.

The Holy Spirit gives your spirit His power to
Preach the Word
Heal the brokenhearted
Pray for deliverance
Speak the Truth to open blind eyes
Restore by forgiveness, give liberty to the bruised
---Michelle on 11/21/07


The Baptism of the Holy Spirit allows a Christian to cast out spirits, curse the fruits of unclean spirits, pray for healing of the human spirit and loose the captive.
---Michelle on 11/21/07


Yes, Donna, yes.
Gal 5:22
All nine gifts of the Holy Spirit are as the Holy Spirit wills. These come only through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Without the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, victory over the works of the flesh will be fought with the flesh.
Gal 5:19-21
---Michelle on 11/21/07


Christians want victory in their lives.
Victory over the works of the flesh.
Spirit of fear
Dumb/deaf spirit
Spirit of antichrist
Spirit of infirmity
Spirit of jealousy
Spirit of divination
Haughty spirit
Lying spirit
Spirit of whoredoms
Unclean spirit
Perverse spirit
Spirit of bondage
Seducing spirit
Spirit of heaviness
Spirit of lethargy

The Baptism of the Holy Spirit for breaking strongholds.
---Michelle on 11/21/07


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Col 1:20
Eph 1:17
Matt 18:18
Gal 5:22
Phil 4:19
Rev 12:11
1 Cor 3:3
Eph 5:3
James 3:14-18
Gal 5:19
---Michelle on 11/21/07


Donna Just off hand, Acts 2:4 is the one that comes to me. The second chapter of Acts. talks about receiving the Holy Spirit.
---Whisper on 11/21/07


The Baptism of the Holy Spirit to overcome

Adultery
Fornication
Uncleanness
Wrath
Heresies
Licentiousness
Idolatry
Sorcery
Strife
Envyings
Hatred
Contentions
Jealousies
Seditions
Murders
Drunkenness
Revellings
Witchcraft
Variance
---Michelle on 11/21/07


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