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Joel Osteen Has Largest Church

Why does Joel Osteen have the largest Congregation in America? Thoughts or comments?

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//Because people want hope. Joel gives a dose of hope every week. It's like getting hooked on a positive horoscope.

That is what I also noticed. He is basically a motivational speaker much on the same level as Zig Ziggler and others. But he really knows how to market his message as evidenced by his lavish lifestyle.
---Lee1538 on 11/1/09

Matthew 7:13-27, Luke 13:24-28, John 10:7-13.
The Hindu temple in Madurai is 260 meters by 240 with 51 meter towers. The future Mosque in Dushanbe, Tajikistan will hold 150,000. The May Day Stadium in Pyongyang, North Korea seats 150,000. But the Ezekiel 48:35, 18,000 measures, Revelations 21:16, 12,000 x 12,000 x 12,000 furlongs, Revelations 21:17, the wall being 144 cubits, and the number in Revelations 5:11, 10,000 x 10,000 and thousands of thousands wins.
---Glenn on 10/31/09

RICK WARREN AND JOEL OLSTEEN...These two Beasts of Satan alone have deceived more so-called Christian. However, The Elect are never deceived. They used the Heresy of Pre-trib Rapture (started by a occultist witch named Margaret Mac Donald(Google it)to lure the pseudo Christian bourgeoise who want the comfort of knowing (unlike all the Christian in the Bible)they will get a pass. That is how mega churches work. They also started the Pseudo Christian Stores of self help for better life on Earth. WHY? All for Power, Fame and Money! (Sounds like Satan)
---Jim on 10/31/09

Having a large church does not
necessarily mean success. Jesus had
only 12 and then, 11.
---Will on 10/31/09

Because people want hope. Joel gives a dose of hope every week. It's like getting hooked on a positive horoscope. There's nothing really wrong with hope until it takes the place of a personal relationship with the Living God through Christ.

The Apostle Paul went through many trials and hard times. People shouldn't focus on hard times, but they should be prepared for them in Christ. The hope is that God is maturing us giving us perservence in Christ. Christ is our hope. Not a lot of positive thinking. And I am a believer in positive thinking. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
---Rod on 1/21/09

Prov7:2Keep my commandments, and live,
5That they may keep thee from the strange woman(church), from the stranger which flattereth with her words. (not The Word of God)
10And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, (lives for worldly things)
14I have peace offerings with me, this day have I payed my vows. (said my words)
16I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt. (worldly no righteousness)
19For the goodman is not at home,(Jesus)he is gone a long journey:
26For she (harlot church) hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.
27Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.
---Craig on 1/20/09

Another name for Joel Osten's Church could be
the Laodicean church.
---mima on 1/19/09

2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears...

One factor contributing to Osteen's success is, as Paul warns Timothy, 'itching ears'. Osteen has amassed such a congregation by spouting, not 'sound doctrine', but what people want to hear, that which appeals to their 'lusts'. Listen to Osteen and one is unlikely to discover the truth about him/herself, namely (as made explicit by Paul in Romans 3) that he/she is a sinner in need of a Savior. Instead, Osteen's message leads one to believe that Jesus is necessary insofar as He can make one's life on earth better than it would be without Him.
---Bobby3 on 1/18/09

JO preaches VANITY


[15] And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them, and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.


[31] Let not him that is deceived trust in vanity: for vanity shall be his recompence


[13] Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.


[7] His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity.
---jerry on 1/17/09

Wow! You judge success by the numers who attend? Isn't that a judgement from a person who doesn't believe in judgement except by the Spirit and aren't you judging their comments and quite possibly their motives or hearts. . Jesus, the man judged the religious leaders of his day to be in error, and so did the prophets who were only men. I believe this is one reason why many believers will be taken captive. Jesus' ministry was pretty small but 12 changed men did some pretty great things in his name to change the world. It is about time that we Christians start looking at and living the message of Christ.
---dan_walker on 11/17/08

Holly.Amen. You have good points here. Hopefully others will see that JO is not a man of God. And hopefully others will see that this man wants more money and he is using God as a means to obtain it. If he wants to make lots of money, he can find another way, but to use people in the name of God is simply not right.
---Kella3336 on 12/18/07

Jana, Joel Osteen is twisting the Word of GOD and he should be exposed for what he is, a FALSE TEACHER. Souls are GOING TO HELL as they follow his slick teachings. He's a fraud and has no business claiming the Holy Name of Jesus Christ (YAHUSHUA). He needs to repent of his FALSE DOCTRINE and get to preaching and teaching about BOTH GOD's Love AND Wrath and Holy Hatred of SIN. And teach the sheep to DESIRE HOLINESS and OBEDIENCE. And WARN about HELL!
---Gordon on 12/17/07

Gordon, you are entitled to your own comment however, it is not for you to judge others..millions of us are getting the blessings from J.O's preaching. My question was, do you go out to preach the word of God as J.O. is instead of moaning? He is doing God,'s work n your not so stop your bickering and do likewise..
---jana on 12/15/07

1) I just found out today that Joel Osteen is coming to San Diego, California (my town) on Friday, January 4th, 2008. I was appalled to find out that you have to PAY for tickets to see him...$18.75 a pop!!! And I am sure there will also be a "love offering" taken. Where does it end? I've been to many, many stadium ministry type events and NEVER have had to buy a ticket, it is usually first come, first in and then an offering is taken. Sheesh...his actions speak very loudly here.
---Holly4jc on 12/15/07

2) And especially after all southern California has been through lately with the fires and many losing all they own, where's the compassion? To charge people money??? For someone who says he wants to encourage people and lift them up to live a happier and better life, how can you come to a city where people have just been through such agony emontionally and financially and have the nerve to charge money to come here what you claim is the Gospel? Shame on you Joel.
---Holly4jc on 12/15/07

Jana, Joel Osteen perfectly fits the description of the false teachers in II Peter Chapter 2. "...even as there shall be false teachers among you (the Church), who privily shall bring in Damnable Heresies...And through Covetousness (GREED) shall they with feigned (FALSE) words make MERCHANDISE OF YOU! (RECEIVE M O N E Y IN RETURN from the listeners!)"
---Gordon on 12/12/07

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The largest?
Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision.
Though the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant will return!
Few shall find the way that is straight leading to eternal life in a gospel that glorifies the Son of God with no pomp nor glory for man.
Not by might nor by power but by my Spirit saith the Lord.
Lean not to your own understanding.
That which reproves, REBUKES (false prophets and their followers) and exhorts!
---Frank on 12/11/07

Jana, I would NEVER dream of keeping you from watching that if that is what you go for. Jesus Christ died for you and I both. I do think that you may want to read the book again. Jesus warned more about Hell than he talked about Heaven. I just think you need to consider the "wages of sin" Not busting on you if you like all the health/wealth stuff. I think you are as misguided as you think I am. ...we have eternity to spend together. We better love each other huh?
---Tony on 12/11/07

I wonder how many people have taken the Apostasy Bible Quiz?
---Rob on 12/11/07

I wonder how many people are against me acknowledging the WORD OF GOD IS TRUE.

I tried listening to Joel Olsteen many times, but I always find myself changing the channel.
---Rob on 12/11/07

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Tony brother, if you dont like Joel Osteens preaching, then turn the page or the channel as pam says..dont tell us what we should watch thank you..we are getting the blessings so leave us alone .. go get a blessing elsewhere if you like and God bless..
---jana on 12/11/07

Oh boy...what an opportunity. I have watched the Joel Osteen program and I found it to be nothing more than a self-help, "you can do it" type of service. It is more like a Tony Robbins seminar than a church service.

Many people like that kind of "feel good, health/wealth" style of service. I personally think that God has not interest in that kind of spirituality. God is looking for men that will stand up for His word and will declare His truths, not just part of them.
---Tony on 12/9/07

Rob brother, we are not hostile at your bickering, we are hostile at your preventing us from getting the blessings from the encouraging preaching of are certainly missing out of it..if you dont like it, then dont prevent us from getting the blessing. just turn the page or switch gotta be enjoing it otherwise you wouldnt be watching it is, you are
---pam on 12/8/07

Andrea: Were the words that the Serpent used in the Garden of Eden sweet sounding to Eve? Was the Fruit pleasant to the eyes?

God is Love yet His Love demands protecting His children from sin. While He is patient, ultimately He will have to destroy most of His children because they are perverted with so much sin that they can not come fully to Him and His Ways. His Ways are given by the Commandments, yet most will be lost. "Narrow is the path...and Few will find it"
---SeventhSeal on 12/4/07

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It is not that people mean to be judgmental or "hateful" it is just that we know Jesus is soon returning and He is returning for a holy people and today's churches are making people feel comfortable in their sins instead of warning them to be ready. Like the ten virgins...some kept their lamps trimmed and burning while others let their oil run out and missed the return of the bridegroom.
---veronica on 11/30/07

Amen Gordon! I had heard Joel say that many come up after his services to receive Jesus. When I was asking God about this, He told me that they may be receiving "a" Jesus, but it's not the Jesus of the Bible. It's the "user friendly" Jesus that is preached, the one that will only pour out His blessings and not convict of sin. This is NOT true salvation. It is a counterfeit.
---Holly4jc on 11/30/07

When I think about Joel Olsteen and those like him who are of the Word of Faith Movement, this is proof that the WORD OF GOD IS TRUE.
---Rob on 11/30/07

Andrea, The Love of GOD can be preached about, while at the same time, warning of His Wrath and Judgement. This sickingly sweet "Jesus" that Joel and other Merchandisers preach about, is a distorted image of the Real Jesus Christ/YAHUSHUA. (See II Peter Chapter 2.) Joel omits the Truths of Sin and Hell which makes his teachings Damnable heresies, sending the followers of such heresies to the sinner's Hell. "Christian" or not. It must be the WHOLE Truth and nothing else but!
---Gordon on 11/30/07

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because joel will not preach the truth of gods word only the easy and smooth part he will not preach about hell in his church or allow anyone else to jesus spoke more about hell in the bible than heaven
---gene on 11/30/07

Jesus died on the cross for our sins. He preached repentance and forgiveness. He rebuked the Pharisees who were preaching false doctrine. He threw the money changers out of the temple. He told His disciples to spread the gospel to all the world. He didn't tell them to just spread a positive message without teaching repentance. He also did not tell them to charge for their services, but to go and that their needs would be met.
---Susie on 11/29/07

Avoids preaching the real meat of the Word..let me ask you moaner, are you preaching the word the real meat of the word to the world like Joel is doing? Stop your moaning and bickering..just go out and do likewise or else forever say nothing against God's workers
---jana on 11/29/07

I hope God continues to useJoel and bless him and that the world can see Jesus as an encouraging loving God - bnot this judgmental hypocrit so often portrayed by the church

Holy Spirit you are welcome here and around the world
---Andrea on 11/27/07

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This church would be a good place for a fire to break out, I did not mean that in a besmirching way.

Huge stadiums, ball fields, wheat fields are being filled with people seeking Jesus Christ.
Right now, the biggest promoter is secular media.
---Michelle on 11/27/07

When the storms come, standing on the shores are hundreds of people than can link hands in prayer, standing against the gales.

News reporters, media, are standing behind, while the gusts of wind and rain blow against them. When the gales break, coverage goes around the world. The glorious Name of Jesus Christ will be magnified among men.
---Michelle on 11/27/07

Periodically, I check back into this site to see if it has returned to the positive, loving place that I discovered 4 years ago. I see that it has not and this makes me sad. Where does all of the anger, self-righteousness, and unacceptance of our fellow person come from? It is not a site that a new Christian would want to visit and be part of.
---Annie on 11/27/07

Frank, you are correct in mentioning Jim Jones, and David Koresh.

I place Joel Olsteen and those who follow him in this catagory,

Have you noticed how people defend him, his teaching and you can not reason with them.

They become very hostile when you try to share Biblical Truth with them.
---Rob on 11/27/07

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How do you figure that Joel Osteen is doing the will of God?...By PUBLICLY rejecting that Jesus Christ is the One and ONLY way?
What's wrong with this picture?
---Anne_P on 11/27/07

I am what the Word says I am, I AM A SINNER cleansed by the blood of the Lamb of my spiritual sin..I have what the Word says I have: I HAVE JESUS CHRIST AS MY LORD N SAVIOR.. What is wrong with that? ..Please, leave Joel alone..if you dont like his preaching, turn the page or switch on another channel..let us who get the blessing from his preaching continue in peace..dont give us your negative thoughts..Lord have mercy
---jana on 11/27/07

Amen Pastor Herb! :-)

Ted Bundy was a nice, sweet man also...wolves in sheep's clothing are always that way...otherwise they would forego the sheep's clothing and just come as a wolf! Satan never comes being his ole mean and rotten self...he comes as an angel of light so he can deceive people. People who call themselves "Christians" would not follow after someone who was out and out rotten, but they will follow someone who seems "so nice and humble".
---Holly4jc on 11/26/07

Because he gives a soft, positive message without mentioning sin and repentance. I expect that Joel is not so soft-spoken every minute of the day. It's easy to appear to be so self-confident and soft-spoken for a few minutes a week. It's easier if you are getting rich off books and tapes about the gospel of Jesus Christ. The GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST should never be sold.
---Susie on 11/26/07

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My question is not meant to argue, but to seek an honest answer to a question to an honest question.
---Rob on 11/26/07

I am not and will not argue with people who basically hate any of God's people. I may not like everything a person says or does but that does not make them fake. I have learned to agree to disagree. However in the end let God's word be true and every man a liar.
---trell on 11/26/07

Trell, I have a honest, fair, and legitimate question to ask you.

If Joel Olsteen is the Man of God that he along with others claim he is, and if Joel Olsteen is doing the will of God, as you claim, why is it that in 2005, while being interviewd by Larry King, on prime time television, Joel Olsteen repeatedly rejected what is written in John 14:6 as being truth?
---Rob on 11/26/07

What does the word say? The bible says a lot of things that we maybe guilty of but we are all striving for perfection. Thank God, he is God and not Man. If it was up to Man all of us we be on our way to Hell or Hades. Because of God his grace is suffiecient in weakness, we are all growing in grace in the knowledge of our LOrd Jesus Christ.
---trell on 11/26/07

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Many tax exempt ministries are falling, going to fall - because of the prosperity message, hedonism. Tax exempt status will go away.

This church would be a good place for a fire to start. Set aflame by the Holy Spirit. If that happens, all the rough places will be made smooth and the crooked places straight.
Others that are deep, deep into hedonism will not have that opportunity.
---Michelle on 11/26/07

I guess there are some people of can care less about what is written in Romans 16:17-18, along with other warnings which are written in scripture.
---Rob on 11/26/07

I wonder what those who defend Joel Olsteen will say regarding what is written in Romans 1:16-32.

Could it be they accept and follow what Joel has to say, but they reject what God has to say in His Word? Hmmm.
---Rob on 11/26/07

Alright, lay off Joel Osteen, he is the man. Everbody is not called to have a very large ministry, so if he does, Kudos to doing the will of God. He is a very positive person, we should do the same. Peace in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
---trell on 11/26/07

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Joel Olsteen, and those like him are leading people away from CHRIST, and away from SALVATION, because they are only concerned with drawing people unto themselves for their own selfish gain.

There are many people who claim to be Christian, yet they reject what is written in Acts 20:29-30, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15, and 2 Peter Chapter 2.
---Rob on 11/26/07

To truly NOT care about a person's soul is to tell them false prophets are ok when they are not as revealed by a multitude of counellers.
A babe in Christ may not be able to tell if someone is a false prophet.
On almost every blog here a person is called judgmental when they go against the multitude to point out heresy.
Thank God Jesus didn't go with the multitudes!
As for coviction, a reprobate mind will not recognize nor heed the conviction of the Holy Ghost.
---Frank on 11/26/07

Jim Jones and David Koresh gathered multitudes to "churches" as well.
And they supposedly used the "word" of God.
Sadly, it was the word of a god and not God.
---Frank on 11/26/07

Well said, Pastor Herb!
---Gordon on 11/26/07

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My sister loves Joel Osteen and so I've seen many many of his sermons. I've only heard him briefly mention that God will not "bless you" and so on if you aren't living righteously, and he does give a chance at the end of his sermons for people to pray the "Jesus, come into my heart" prayer.
---danna9955 on 11/25/07

Still, I think Joel Osteen to be a very humble person and probably one of the nicest you'd ever meet in person. He is definitely an encouragement to those already saved, and has giftings in that area, just as we all have strengths in different areas. I know from what he said, he only preaches 1 service/week, so perhaps the other services have more of an outreach to sinners focus?? I don't know.
---danna9955 on 11/25/07

He tells people what they want to hear and not what they need to hear. He avoids preaching the real meat of the Word and that is: if you don't live right and reject Christ. You are in danger of Hell and its terrible fires. He don't teach holiness and all the terrors of the gospel, so people flock to his church. They feel good because he has not told them the real truth of the gospel and what it entails. Due to a wicked nature, people love that type teaching. No cross, no crown.
---Robyn on 11/25/07

Listen to you people judge this man! Shame on you! Convictions are suppossed to come from the Holy Spirit, not a preacher. Whether he is a motivotional speaker or a preacher, he gets people to church and has over a million viewers every week. Praise God!
---Allen on 11/25/07

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3- Continued:

Someone that should strive to balance my faith with works to please Christ from a humble and thankful spirit and heart.

Someone that should be content if salvation is the ONLY THING that He ever gives me.

Someone that should turn from those who preach that gain is godliness.

Someone that should use the laws and prophets to please Jesus knowing I have grace when I fail.

---Frank on 11/25/07

4- cont.

Someone that is a new creature in Christ by the working of His Spirit.

Someone that should abase himself as all of the men of God did. Jesus/ hen, Paul/ nurse,
Abraham/ but dust and ashes, etc...

Someone that should acknowledge the work of God is not by the carnal mind but by the Spirit of God.

Someone that realizes the importance of the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

---Frank on 11/25/07

5- What I have:

The second Adam/ quickening Spirit

The one who believed God (Abraham)

The Child of Prominse (Isaac)

The beloved Son of God (Jacob)

The strength of God (Samson)

The one with the right of redemption (Boaz, Jeremiah)

The walls of salvation and gates of praise.

The greater light of God reflected in a dark world by the lesser light in Christ by the Spirit to reveal the children of Abraham and divide them from darkness.

---Frank on 11/25/07

6- cont.

The blessing of the windows of heaven being opened and the eternal salvation of God coming forth into a dark world to be an everlasting light unto me.

The blessing of an alter being made at Calvary and the Lamb of Promise making the atonement for my sins.

The blessing of the baptism of the Holy Ghost to lead and guide me until the day that the Lord returns for me.

The blessing to be his betrothed until the time I become his bride.

---Frank on 11/25/07

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7- cont.

The blessing of knowing that I can be kept in his house of women by his keeper of the women and given only those things which will please my Lord.

The blessing of knowing that I can be content to be kept against my will and carnal nature in his house of women.

The blessing of knowing that among those types and shadows of Jesus, captains, priests and leaders that truly reveal the glory of Christ none are women and therefore I have nothing to glory in but HIM!

---Frank on 11/25/07

8- cont.

Finally, the blessing of knowing that by the leading of the Holy Ghost and the Light that He brings forth to reveal darkness, I can turn from those such as Joel Osteen that preach that "I should be somebody" or that Jesus died so that I could have riches or glory in this life.

Heretical false prophets with a carnal word of blasphemy!

I would rather be saved by the blood and have little or nothing in this life than sell my soul to follow him!

---Frank on 11/25/07


There will be those who mock my 8 point answer.

Christ was mocked as well.

There will be carnal minded haughty women that overlook the spiritual things to defend feminism.

Know this:

When you appear befor the judgment seat of Christ, if you lived having a carnal, haughty, rebellious or disobedient heart you will reap what you sow.

Let God be true and every man a liar.

Mainly the false prophets that "destroy wonderfully!"

---Frank on 11/25/07

1- Joel Osteen made me sick when he raised his Bible and said "repeat after me, I am what the word says I am and I have what the word says I have etc...."

What does the word say I am and what does the word say I have?

I don't know about the prosperity types but the next posts show what I am and what I have.

---Frank on 11/25/07

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2- The word says I am:

A Gentile that should not boast against the branches.

Someone that was a stranger and was alienated from the commonwealth of Christ.

Someone that is but a servant and brother to handmaids and not a son nor daughter without the Spirit of Adoption in Christ.

Someone that should be led by the Spirit and not lean unto my own understanding.

Someone that should humble himself under the mighty hand of God and be exalted in His time.

---Frank on 11/25/07

if we all are christians, we will know not to judge others who are doing God's work..when I am down, I turn on Joels channel and he lifts me up and if you dont like his preaching, then I suggest you turn on another channel and let us who enjoy it continue in peace..Let God's workers work in His fields..dont judge but help with the work..go preach the gospel of Jesus Christ our Savior..
---jana on 11/25/07

If people watch him on TV instead of going to church is because 1. They do not want to make an effort to get ready and go to church, in other words they are lazy and do not have a desire. 2. Some are not able to go to church, so they watch Preachers on TV. There isn't anything wrong with watching TV Evangelists but they don't need to be put upon a Pedestal, as alot of them do.
---Rebecca_D on 11/24/07

He is a cotton candy preacher, feed your kids cotton candy for years and see what good health they would be in. Feed your church cotton candy sermons for years and see what spiritual health they are in. He is not a preacher, he is a motivational speeker. Everyone likes him because there is no conviction in his preaching. People don't like messages that convict. Why do you think people flock to him and away from loud mouth hell fire preaching Baptist.
---Pastor_Herb on 11/24/07

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I beleive he is someone who has the true favor of God, because of his sweet "humility" Man oh man, I don't know of any guy like him, he is a preacher who is so gentle on the nerves that even my kids want to watch him, and they are not ones to enjoy church or preachers generally.**

In other words, he tickles YOUR ears, too.
---Jack on 11/24/07

I am not going to comment as to the condition of Joel Olsteens soul,however,I do not agree with his tactics to salvation.Salvation does not come about by one feeling good about themselves,but Godly Sorrow worketh Repentance,a contrite Spirit and a broken heart.He refuses to preach against sin,and unless one comes under conviction for their sin,they cannot and will not be saved.We need more of the Old Time Preachers that will preach against sin and warn people of hell,and I will forever Preach it that way.
---Tommy on 11/24/07

Because his smooth preaching of "All you need is love" tickles the itching ears of the blinded sheep. He refuses to warn about Hell. He is soft on the subject of SIN. Holiness is not a big issue with him. Just "GOD's 'best' for you! :-D " And "Be the best YOU, you can be, in GOD!" The sheep can forget about GOD's requirements of HOLINESS and OBEDIENCE with Love. And, he gets his pockets lined up R I C H L Y.
---Gordon on 11/24/07

Blessings to you Jack.

It is good to know there are some people who are not caught up into and know false teachers when they see them.

Did you know Joel Olsteen, along with others are being investigated by the Federal Government for fraud?

I bet Joel and the others do not want people to know this.

Also they don't want people to know what is written in Acts 17:11, Romans Chapter one, or 2 Peter Chapter two.
---Rob on 11/23/07

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The word says the spirit of man lusteth to envy. People will naturally be led by their spirit to a word that makes them a god.
One that lusts for power and riches.
Such places are the place of confusion and every evil work.
That does not come down from the Father of lights.
My thoughts, he needs to repent and believe the gospel.
Scripturally, she, and I say again she, was prophesied through scripture to come as a part of a darkness upon the face of the earth and the kingdom of the beast.
---Frank on 11/23/07

I beleive he is someone who has the true favor of God, because of his sweet "humility" Man oh man, I don't know of any guy like him, he is a preacher who is so gentle on the nerves that even my kids want to watch him, and they are not ones to enjoy church or preachers generally.
---Whisper on 11/23/07

Because there are a lot of people in his area who like to have their itching ears tickled, and apparently he does the best job of it.

Has anyone but me noticed that the big mega-churches who preach holy prosperity are NEVER found in the poorer sections of town (where they would really need it, don't you think?) but in rich white suburbs?
---Jack on 11/22/07

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