John 18:6 Slain In The Spirit
Does the Scripture in John 18:6"As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground." Referred to being slain in the spirit? If not, what does it refer to?
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---Mima on 11/28/07
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there is a continuum between being totally focused on the earth, and being totally entranced. Intoxication (what the Apostles were accused of after Pentecost) lies along that continuum.
Having personally exprienced something like what mima is talking about, I can describe that state - you're aware of physical reality, you even have a variable amount of motor control (which accounts for women adjusting their wigs) but you're VERY distracted and should NOT operate heavy machinery).
---StrongAxe on 11/30/07|
It is unfortunate that with out biblical bases,some believers can adopt things like slain in the sprit as doctrine.
It is another unfortunate thing that the majority that accept this doctrine are women, with some men following,like Adam follow Eve in the garden.
I challenge any one to use scripture to support this doctrine.
One more why did not the bible writers mention it.
---lionel on 11/30/07|
You confuse hysterical man-made attempts to duplicate the power of God with the real thing.**
I am actually making a very careful distinction. I've seen too many women slain in the spirit who had enough presence of mind to adjust their wigs.
And why is it necessary to cover them with blankets from the waist down? If it's really the Holy Spirit causing it, there will be NOTHING immodest happening. After all, the Holy Spirit is a gentleman.
---Jack on 11/29/07|
**... and my wife led me away to our car saying give me the keys you cannot drive. ...**
My Bible says, "The spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets." Is 1 Corinthians 14:32 in your Bible?
You could have driven if you had wanted to.
Obviously, you were in touch with earth enough to listen to your wife! Had this been a true ecstasy, you would not have been aware of her.
---Jack on 11/29/07|
To---StrongAxe Something very similar happened to me once, after happening upon an accident on the highway and praying, I fell under the influence of the Holy Spirit(tongues). The injured survived, and my wife led me away to our car saying give me the keys you cannot drive. We went straight to a motel, where a continued to speak in tongues until four o'clock in the morning. An unforgettable experience that has greatly influenced my life.
---Mima on 11/29/07|
You confuse hysterical man-made attempts to duplicate the power of God with the real thing.
I remember one time when I felt a tangible power, and people fall over like bowling pins, tried to get up, and then fell over again. Without hysterics, without anyone touching or pushing them.
At the end I had to carry my friend to the car (he couldn't walk straight) and I had to just sit for about half an hour before I was able to drive, because I felt so "intoxicated".
---StrongAxe on 11/29/07|
Greetings Cynthia and Mima,
Cynthia - Amen, good answer!
When Christ responded to them in John 18:6 he was showing his power as the omnipotent God. If you notice he stated I AM he. He was declaring that he is the I AM - Exodus 3:14.
The name I AM, means that he does not change (Heb. 13:8).
Also the term "band of men" = 600 men! (v.3)
Can you imagine a mob of 600 men falling backwards - WOW!
Lord bless you all,
---trey on 11/28/07|
Blessings friends, when the Soldiers fell backwards, Jesus was revealing His Deity. They did not fall forward to Worship Him, they fell backward most likely in dismay. He revealed to these men that He was absolutely in charge. Psalms 27:2 states When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell. God Bless friends!
---Cynthia on 11/28/07|
This is an interesting scripture indeed as it shows Christ manifesting, proving HIS POWER to them that HE could have knocked them out, to death if He felt like it. It was to prove He was who He claimed to be as a lesson to rebels, they had no power over Him without His consent, but He knew it was His time to go back to Heaven to the Father.
---Whisper on 11/28/07|
Being "slain in the spirit" from what I've seen, involves being in a worked up crowd and having someone tap you on the head, saying "Shocka meshugginah, shocka meshugginah" over and over.
None of these elements were present with St. John.
---Jack on 11/28/07|