Why Paintings Of Jesus
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Steven -- the disciples saw Jesus and the God head shone forth in the transfiguration....Jesus was transformed....he was seen as he exisits in Heaven today by the disciples...so yes many have had visions of Christ..St. Faustina being one of the most renowned.
"Jesus I trust In you"
do u hav a problem with this message? |
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---lisa on 12/21/07 |
Steveng. Many have seen the Risen Christ. You may not have, but many have. God still give divine revelation to His Children on Earth. |
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---Ramon on 12/16/07 |
Lisa and others: John describe Jesus in Revelation as undescribable but did the best he can to describe Jesus as he was during his vision. If John could not describe our Lord then, how could people today describe Jesus in their dream as he was before his resurrection? They picture Him they way He was because that's how people picture him from Catholic renditions. The Catholics were the first to paint pictures and mold statues they way people see Him today - maybe around the third century. |
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---Steveng on 12/14/07 |
Holly, St.Faustina saw the risen Christ Jesus in His glorified Body, which is much more beautiful then before the ressurection. Beautiful now,Jesus is the Divine Mercy.She saw His glorified body-He told her to write "Jesus I trust in You" on the image painted.This original image is the "Vilnius" is not exactly handsome...however 2 other artists made their version- the "Skemp" and the "Hyla".. Most people like these renditions better. |
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---lisa on 12/14/07 |
Steven you can only speak for yourself as for not seeing a dream or vision of Jesus Christ.
many people have had divine visions of Him...some from many different denominations.
The disciples saw Jesus in all His Glory at the transfiguration....In that moment, they knew He was God! |
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---lisa on 12/13/07 |
Emcee: "It may interest you to know That Hair & a beard was a sign of..."
On the contrary, you had better read up on Biblical history or for that matter any history.
"And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife, take thee a barber's razor, and cause it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard..." Ezekiel 5:1
Barber tools were found 3000BC. (Wikipededia) |
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---Steveng on 12/12/07 |
Emcee: "Blaming The catholic Church shows your lack of Knowledge to express it Mildly instead of using one WORD."
You are such a foolish person. You don't even know me and yet you accuse me of lack of knowledge. I've dealt with the Catholic Church for over 45 years ever since I was kicked out of a Catholic school at the age of nine for causing division among the students and teachers by asking questions (about praying to Mary and having statues, to begin with). |
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---Steveng on 12/12/07 |
Steveng:: It may interest you to know That Hair & a beard was a sign of Manliness in those Jewish Days & Some Jews take pride in maintaining the Tradition.Besides they had no shaving devices.Blaming The catholic Church shows your lack of Knowledge to express it Mildly instead of using one WORD. |
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---Emcee on 12/12/07 |
Amazing how the imaginations of people portray Jesus. This is the main reason why God commanded us not to make ANY image of anything.
By the way, Jesus is not here on earth. He is in heaven preparing a place for Christians. He has not visited anyone in person or in a dream and won't return for a few more years.
Besides, Jesus did not wear his hair like a woman as the Catholics render him as such. |
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---Steveng on 12/11/07 |
Holly. Let us grant, for the shake of the argument, that Jesus was not handsome, then what difference does it makes? After His Glories Resurrection, His body was new and transform.
Jesus, in His risen Body, is handsome for He is Lord and Saviour over all. No problems here. . . . |
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---Ramon on 12/11/07 |
God is a divine Spirit we are made to His definition. When He Created Himself in the Flesh "THE WORD was made Man".We worship the God in Man ie His Divine Majesty which is His representation.What St.Faustins saw was vividly described & painted IMHO.It was a divine Revalation to HER. |
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---Emcee on 12/11/07 |
Holly, St.Faustina saw the risen Christ Jesus in His glorified Body, which is much more beautiful then before the ressurection. Beautiful now,Jesus is the Divine Mercy.She saw His glorified body-He told her to write "Jesus I trust in You" on the image painted.This original image is the "Vilnius" is not exactly handsome...however 2 other artists made their version- the "Skemp" and the "Hyla".. Most people like these renditions better. |
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---lisa on 12/11/07 |
1) Lisa...this is what I wrote before...Jesus was NOT described as beautiful in the Bible:
All those pictures that make Jesus look so handsome (such as that Faustina one) do not line up with how the bible describes Him in Isaiah 53:
53:2b-3 HE HAD NO BEAUTY OR MAJESTY TO ATTRACT US TO HIM, NOTHING IN HIS APPEARANCE THAT WE SHOULD DESIRE HIM. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, |
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---Holly4jc on 12/11/07 |
2) and we esteemed him not.
Jesus is not described as a handsome man, quite the opposite. When people were drawn to Him, it was not because He was so handsome, it was because of the Holy Spirit and the anointing upon Him. |
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---Holly4jc on 12/11/07 |
Remember that while God prohibited the making of images in the OT, he commanded the building of the ark, tabernacle and the images [statues] of cherubims in the ark [Mercy Seat] (Exodus 25:18-21). This further Saint John of Damascus argument that God prohibited the making of images/statues in account of idols or the "worshiping of" not out of honor and/or respect.
Icons of Jesus are important in Christianity. I too like the The Divine Mercy. Put them in your home and praise God! |
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---Ramon on 12/10/07 |
Concerning God's command not to make images in the OT, St John of Damascus sums it up:
"The single purpose of this is that one should not worship, or offer the veneration of worship, to creation instead of the Creator, but only to the One who fashioned all. It was on account of idolatry that he prohibited the fashioning of images. Veneration of worship is one thing, veneration offered in honor to those who excel on account of something worthy is another"(On The Divine Images, A.D 726-730) |
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---Ramon on 12/10/07 |
Holly4jc. *As I said before, that picture looks nothing like how the Bible describes Jesus...He was not described as handsome and pleasing to the eye.*
So are you saying our Saviour and Lord was not handsome and pleasing to the eye, but instead looked like a disgusting pig?
The little description [s] we have of Christ in the the book of Revelation is far from being ugly.
Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was handsome and pleasing to the eyes! Do you dare to say otherwise oh Holly? |
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---Ramon on 12/10/07 |
While we may not know how Jesus looks in detail, though the Book of Revelation does gives us some information, icons of Jesus Christ has been a long devotion of Christians. That being said, there is no sin in displaying Jesus or saints for that manner.
Our Christian faith is rooted in our Saviour. Why wouldn't we have icons of Him in our home?
This question arose in the 8th century, which led to the Second Council of Nicaea (787), which promoting the use of icons. Icons deepen our faith. |
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---Ramon on 12/10/07 |
#2 "Even if we make images of pious men it is not that we may adore them as gods but that when we see them we might be prompted to imitate them." Cyril of Alexandria, On Psalms 113 (115) (ante A.D. 444).
As St Cyril of Alexandria, we Christians should strive to imitate Jesus and the Saints. This is why we have icons, to remind us of their holy lives, and so in turn, we may strive and obtain holiness.
Please read St John of Damascus "Three Treatises On the Divine Images". |
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---Ramon on 12/10/07 |
Holly St.Faustina-a loving servant of the Lord-most meek-humble-died at 33 too.She was poor in spirit and truly blessed by God. So much so Jesus revealed himself clearly and many times. She is not a liar: the artist painted Jesus under her discretion. Yet,she wasn't happy with how the image looked either, Jesus told her " It is not the paint of the brush that is important, but the message "Jesus I trust in You" and His message of His Great Divine Mercy that is. |
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---lisa on 12/10/07 |
Jesus, the Lord is beautiful. Why would the Father create and ugly repulsive Son Holly? that is ridiculous!
People flocked to Him, they were drawn to Him. Because he spoke the Truth and he had Charisma and beauty. He was full of Grace and Truth and dwelt among us.
He was surely beautiful on earth in the flesh. |
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---lisa on 12/10/07 |
Lisa...you have no idea if her painting is the closest image of Jesus thus far...you have never seen Jesus. However, it is the image that you find most pleasing to your flesh, therefore it is your determination that it must be the most accurate picture of what Jesus looks like. As I said before, that picture looks nothing like how the Bible describes Jesus...He was not described as handsome and pleasing to the eye. |
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---Holly4jc on 12/7/07 |
Holly- she saw Christ in a vision
What she saw is what she had painted
The Divine Mercy.
To me the closest image by far of our Lord ever. |
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---lisa on 12/7/07 |
So many images of Jesus Christ, we are not to make any image an idol in our heart.
"Because you have seen me, you have believed, blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." |
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---lovable_linda on 12/5/07 |
Artist are creative people put here to entertain and effect our emotions. These pictures are ideas and images that artists give us as to how and what their ideas are of how Jesus may have looked. No one knows for sure. Given the day and times Jesus lived in they(artists) draw from their imaginations. I see nothing wrong having an image of Christ in the home. |
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---Robyn on 12/5/07 |
Lisa...I read portions of the writings on the official website and I do not ascribe to her having received messages from Mary. That in itself tells me all I need to know. Her "revelations" by God were nothing more than what was already in the bible. As I was reading this the Lord brought to mind the story of the girl in Acts 16:16-19 who practiced fortune-telling...she knew exactly who Paul and the others were and who they served, but yet this revelation was given to her by dark forces. |
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---Holly4jc on 12/5/07 |
Besides Isaiah, Revelation also describes Jesus. |
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---Steveng on 12/4/07 |
you should read the Diary of Saint Faustina...She gave up her will for God's will and that is the whole point of her life....to reveal the Great Mercy of Jesus our God.
Beautiful image she saw. |
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---lisa on 12/4/07 |
All those pictures that make Jesus look so handsome (such as that Faustina one) do not line up with how the bible describes Him in Isaiah 53:
53:2b-3 He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Jesus is not described as a handsome man, quite the opposite. |
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---Holly4jc on 12/3/07 |
The picture that you see is not Christ.
No pictures was made of Him.WE go by who he was, and not what He looks like.
That is idoltry. Take it off the wall and put it in your spirit. We worship God through Christ,and not Christ Himself. |
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---Jack_fossett on 12/2/07 |
I dont agree that we should since noone can remember ever what He looked like etc..the images that we see today is only an artists expression of Christ's person..He could be an ugly man or handsome...who knows..some say He had a ruddy look about Him..wheres the evidence? Isnt it queer that no record ever was kept of His looks etc??? |
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---pammy on 12/1/07 |
Steveng, this is what scripture says about Jesus' appearance. Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness, and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. I think that this makes it clear that it would not be good looks that would attract people to Him, however, most paintings depict Him as a handsome man. |
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---RitaH on 12/1/07 |
1) Lisa...I was looking up your saint Faustina and found this paragraph about her:
Her entire life, in imitation of Christ's, was to be a sacrifice -- a life lived for others. At the divine Lord's request, she willingly OFFERED HER PERSONAL SUFFERINGS IN UNION WITH HIM TO ATONE FOR THE SINS OF OTHERS, in her daily life she was to become a doer of mercy, bringing joy and peace to others, and by writing about God's mercy, |
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---Holly4jc on 11/30/07 |
2) she was to encourage others to trust in Him and thus prepare the world for His coming again.
Since when does anyone OTHER than JESUS ATONE for a person's sins? |
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---Holly4jc on 11/30/07 |
I forgot to mention the fact that when Jesus appeared before me on on a couple of occasions that, He very much resembled the pictures that you might see in stores. |
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---catherine on 11/30/07 |
The image of Jesus at it's best is the one painted under the discretion of St. Faustina.
He appeared to her. The Divine Mercy is Jesus.
check it out..Most people don't know the story behind the image.
"Jesus I trust in You" is the clear message on the bottom of the image of Divine Mercy! |
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---lisa on 11/30/07 |
Karen>>>Most with the exception of one all are similar. I love my Savior because He saved me from everlasting hell. I just figured that you were looking for a picture of Him that people believe He may had looked like. The way men looked back in those days some probably draw their conclusions from. I thought something might be up with this question, how disappointing. Not many trues.++People of God. |
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---catherine on 11/30/07 |
Catherine....I didn't realize that an authentic picture of Jesus existed. Thanks for the info. How do I know that it is a real picture of Jesus and not just what someone thinks he looks like? How do I know if it is the real jesus? I've seen so many pictures that are all of different men. |
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---Karen on 11/30/07 |
Good morning Karen. Pictures of Jesus can be found at the Goodwill, Walmart, dollar stores, I would think at the Bible book store. Really all over. Just keep your eyes open and when you see one you really like buy it. I am not too particular, if it's of Jesus. Good day.+ |
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---catherine on 11/30/07 |
You can get a picture of Jesus almost anywhere art is sold. I love to paint with water color and I painted my own picture of Jesus. I love it. Try painting your own picture of Jesus. Also, there are a million pictures on the internet if you goolgle Jesus art. |
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---sue on 11/30/07 |
God made it a strong point not to have any images of anything in the heavens, on land or under the oceans. Why? We have whites Jesus', black Jesus', brown Jesus', yellow Jesus', and all the colors inbetween. We have Jesuses having long hair and short hair. We have Jesuses as beautiful as an angel or a not so handsome fellow. We have Jesuses with brown eyes and some with blue eyes. I even saw a movie where Jesus had long hair but all the other males had short. What does the Bile say about his appearance? |
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---Steveng on 11/29/07 |
the best one is of the Divine Mercy. Jesus appeared to St. Faustina.
She died at the age of 33.
the image went across the world. However not to many people know the story behind the image of Jesus the Divine Mercy! |
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---lisa on 11/29/07 |
Karen and Catherine, You can go online and buy a true poster from the painting from Akiane Kramerik of the real Jesus. Just thought you'd like to know, and I think its great that you have pictures of Jesus all over your house Catherine, that way HE is always in sight and never out of mind. Amen. |
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---Whisper on 11/29/07 |
High in the mountains of Mexico. I saw a church that had no signs, no crosses, nothing but white stucco siding and a sign that said "Jesus is Lord" which was on the wall behind the pulpit when I inquired by the church was so bear. I was told, the Indians take seriously the second commandment to make no image. Illustrated sermons were practiced in the church because of a lack of understanding of Spanish. And illustrated sermons are a lesson in and of themselves. |
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---Mima on 11/29/07 |
Catherine...Could you tell me where I can get a picture of Jesus? I'd like to put one in my house. |
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---Karen on 11/29/07 |
I have His pictures all over my house. |
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---catherine on 11/29/07 |
Oh, but people HAVE seen him! Through various ways. Dreams, visions, special encounters, gone to heaven and back...but aside from that, even if one has not seen him, they can still paint the essence of him. Personally, I think it's perfectly fine to put a picture of Him on the wall, not knowing if that's the exact replica or not. |
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---kady on 11/29/07 |
Thousands of people see Jesus, in their dreams, and have nde's or have not died like John, Paul, Ezekiel, etc. and etc. God never changes, He is God so He never died He is still doing the same as He always has, revealing Himself, And Oh My Goodness!!! You can't beleive how many Indians, Afghanis, and Iraqi muslims are seeing JESUS walking into their rooms, prisons, etc. at this time. Akiane Kramerik is a little girl prodigy artist etc. who has been to Heaven and painted the real Jesus. |
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---Whisper on 11/29/07 |
No-one knows what Jesus looks like but many wish they did, hence the pictures. The majority are probably nothing like Him as they are mainly of a white man. Because of where He was born I would think it is pretty certain that He had, at least, a tan like the people of that region. I remember there being a huge furore when I was a child because someone painted a black Messiah. We probably would all like to think that He looked like us. |
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---RitaH on 11/29/07 |
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